What a loon! What will they come up with next I tell ya.

Did anyone ever see any of the Babylonian beheadings?....now that's torture, baby!...Nick Berg, Daniel Pearle, and other innocent noncombatants. Pure evil torture.

What do Babylonian beheadings have to do with the torture of a bunch of Afghanis at Gitmo? Oh that's right. Nothing.

Babylonian beheadings? Pure evil torture? Beheading someone is actually murder, not torture.

The beauty of our system is that OJ, our Government and Corporations are entitled to the highest standard of proof, unlike munchkins like John Walker Lind, Posada et al. Since they've already destroyed all the evidence, there is no case. Cheney and Shrub mastered this technique after watching the fall of Nixon.

Truth and Democracy my ass.

you see Mr. moderate..it's amazing how liberals like you make such a fuss over a little light-hearted torture at a boy scout camp, yet remain deafeningly silent when much more grotesque evil is bestowed upon our own innocent citizens...oh...that;s right...we must deserve it!...Is that it?

Of course he claims torture. How else does he get thousands of lefties, blinded by Bush-hate, to support his claim for $20 million in compensatory damages?

Of course he claims torture. How else does he get thousands of lefties, blinded by Bush-hate
~VERNON

Indeed Why don't they ever talk of Clinton torture, or Bush 41 torture, or Ray Gun torture, or Carter torture, of Ford torture, or even Nixon torture?


Why do they only pick on the Chimp?

Every problem in the world is the chimps fault.
How is next in line to throw shit at ????

How is next in line to throw shit at ????


How???


Who,, even I would admit McSame would be an improvement.

Yea WHO

Dam forum and non edit capability BS

non edit capability


LOL engage Brain BEFORE hitting publish . . .

We have all been quilty...

you see Mr. moderate..it's amazing how liberals like you make such a fuss over a little light-hearted torture at a boy scout camp, yet remain deafeningly silent when much more grotesque evil is bestowed upon our own innocent citizens...oh...that;s right...we must deserve it!...Is that it?

Posted by BusyB

It's amazing how shitheads like you have a crystal ball and somehow know how liberals felt when Nick Berg and Daniel Pearle were murdered.
It's pathetic that you think we should set our standards based on the actions of murderers and ultra conservative religious fanatics.
Conservatives cut people's heads off.

Let the lawsuits begin.

Let's see: Iraq al queda beheadings...10?

Bush's Criminal Police Action Death count: 400,000!

Hm to a racist and religious bigot I can see how you would equate them!

Maybe not so much though. Okay....Hypocrital Morons!

Ex-Gitmo Detainee Claims Torture

Well, duh. Now there's a surprise. I wonder if he really was, though.

Ex-Gitmo Detainee Claims Torture

And the bOoB claims to see smokestacks on the moon.

Well, duh. Now there's a surprise. I wonder if he really was, though.

Like I said, shit stains from Texas spit on soldiers everyday.

Moneywar- prove that, please.

Alex,

Well, duh. Now there's a surprise. I wonder if he really was, though.

Go figure, now the question is can you figure out what I am actually saying.

Like I said, shit stains from Texas spit on soldiers everyday.

I'll make sure I take extra care on those skid marks to keep 'em from spitting on soldiers. Thanks for the heads up.

las vegas odds much higher that he was than he wasn't I bet:>)

I will state again what I have stated in the past. Since torture brings terror upon those that it is perpetrated upon. That makes the torturers terrorists. Those who support these tortures then become terrorist supporters and sympathizers. Why do Dubya and company and those who support these actions UnAmerican and terrorist lovers??

Larry Mohr

Even if you have documented video evidence of being tortured in Gitmo,just what authority can you go to with it?

Nobody in the US Govt in either the Republican or Democratic parties,as they have openly demonstrated,could care less how many innocent people the Bush Regime tortures and/or murders! The US Supreme Court likewise won't even look at an indictment that in any way implicates the Bush Govt.in hundreds of cases of torture and murder.So whats a victim to do - organize a possee???

boo hoo hoo, pardon me while i get a kleenex.

They should have put a red hot pocker up his ass then he would know what torture is.

They should have put a red hot pocker up his ass then he would know what torture is.

The voice of experience.

"I wonder if he was (tortured)....?"

Catch Bush's Sharm al Sheikh performance? The one where he chided some of the same people he exports prisoners to for "interrogation" for human rights violations? Word is he was laughed at.

Yes, I guess it would be easy for a detainee to lie about being tortured. Thing is it's equally easy for the government to lie and state it never tortured.

Looking for proof? Available evidence is that the evidence is being systematically destroyed. I don't think the detainees are responsible for that.

"Boo hoo hoo let me get a kleenex...."

This is the sort of person that made Bush a god for so many years. What a joke.

Is this the last refuge of the chickenhawks?

That others in the world do much worse; so anything we do short of that is OK? And anyway they are just filthy nigg.. er sandnigg... er terrorists.

So they only count for 3/4 of a human.

If you really want to know the depth to which our so-called democracy has decended, look up something called the 'Continuance of Governance' Plans.

If you are still a Bush fan after reading this, you don't deserve to live in a free society.

LIAR, I am sure you lib zombies believe this terrorist.

Is that all?

The sniveling son of a bitch shouldn't have entered the terrorist business if he didn't want to reap the consequences.

He should provide us with thanks, since his suffering "martyrdom" in the service of Allah will foster his entry into Paradise, and he shall receive reward for eternity, lots of houris, virgins denied him on Earth because it is only in Paradise that you may enjoy these delights.

Why? Well, take it up with Allah. After marrying an older rich widow, Muhammed certainly then sought the pleasure of deflorating virgins. He even married Fatima when she was six years of age insuring he secured a virgin for himself. Why he even permitted her to keep her dolls even bring them to the marriage bed. What a guy. The perfect man.

Evidence, BS. There was plenty of circumstantial evidence implicating this jihadi.

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-05-21 01:35 AM

I will state again what I have stated in the past. Since torture brings terror upon those that it is perpetrated upon. That makes the torturers terrorists. Those who support these tortures then become terrorist supporters and sympathizers. Why do Dubya and company and those who support these actions UnAmerican and terrorist lovers??

Posted by Salaryman at 2008-05-21 09:01 AM

So they only count for 3/4 of a human.

Hey what are our lives worth when we lose our souls??

Larry Mohr

get thee behind me, Johnson

"The sniveling son of a bitch shouldn't have entered the terrorist business if he didn't want to reap the consequences. He should provide us with thanks."

Another compassionate conservative chimes in. Since "we" never torture anyone and never jug anyone innocent, this guy musta had it comin'. herm

**** Of course he claims torture. ****

.......the FBI confirmed that prisoners were tortured and to their credit....they refused to participate.......

.......the old soviet system has crumbled......

......but we have become them.....gulags and all....

let us remember that his 'torture' included:

1. 24/7 medical care
2. opportunity to pray 5 times a day to Mecca
3. cultural meals, like lemon chicken and pecan pie
4. recreation
5. life on the beach of a tropical paradise

Most people would call this 'vacation'

Most Muslims would think they were already in heaven. Allah Ahkbar!

*****let us remember that his 'torture' included:
VERNON ****

........let us remember it also included torture....

...read the article Vern....

.....they arrested him arbitrarily......
......they knew he was innocent after a few months.....
....but kept him jailed and tortured him for 3 and a half more years......

......what have we become ?.......

........let us remember it also included torture....

Posted by skizziks at 2008-05-21 11:56 AM | Reply

And the evidence is ...........

(beside your blinding Bush hatred....)

..........................uh ..............

........let us remember it also included torture....

Posted by skizziks at 2008-05-21 11:56 AM | Reply

Skkidmark obviously works for a 'personal injury' law firm

Vern,

Imagine for a moment the following:

Your neighbor who hates your guts (don't they all?) finally has enough of your crap and calls homeland security and tells them you are the guy who gives OBL his colonics.

They rush out and arrest your ass and toss you in a cell at GITMO. You have no right to an attorney, you have no right to even hear the accusations against you. No one has the right to even find out what the hell happened to you, since they don't even release your name as an enenmy combatant.

It is now over 5 years since your capture and they finally realize that OBL has never had an enema in his life and they release you.

What are you gonna do, tough guy?

Well, duh. Now there's a surprise. I wonder if he really was, though.

Posted by goatman



even the FBI claims that there is torture so, coupled with what has gone on in the past at gitmo, why should we not believe this guy?

I just can't believe that he would make a claim like that. I guess he knows that he might win the lotery that way.

you see Mr. moderate..it's amazing how liberals like you make such a fuss over a little light-hearted torture at a boy scout camp, yet remain deafeningly silent when much more grotesque evil is bestowed upon our own innocent citizens...oh...that;s right...we must deserve it!...Is that it?

Posted by BusyB



And thus the evolution of the modern moron continues.

Good post - with this small effort you just guaranteed that no one will take you seriously at all.

What are you gonna do, tough guy?

Posted by axe at 2008-05-21 12:07 PM | Reply

Hmmmmmm..........

Silly comparison, but let's work with it; While you struggle with McDonald's, I encounter a dozen foreign cultures each year.

I live in an urban neighborhood that's probably majority black but with a huge number of Ukrainian Jews who left when the Russian Empire fell.

Plus plenty of illegal Mexicans

I'm married to an Asian woman (Filipina). When we travel we always get pulled aside for extra scrutiny (should I be pissed?--Is Japan Airlines also committing 'torture' on us?)

Yeah, it seems like life is hell for we Globalists, even if we don't plant bombsn and kill people

Vern,

You don't seem to be reading well today. What does your self-agrandizing little rant have to do with the question I posed?

If you were the recently released Gitmo detainee, what would a tough guy like you do when you get out? Crawl back into what is left of your life after a 5 year absence? Kiss you guard's feet as you leave? Hold a press conference and praise Michael Chertoff for the excellent cuisine at Gitmo? What?

**** And the evidence is ...........
(beside your blinding Bush hatred....)
..........................uh ..............
Posted by vernon *****

......the FBI verified it....they refused to cooperate......not wanting to cross the line to criminality......

......did I mention that idiot ?.........

......I don't hate him, never met him, but I know that he has done a shitty job......he has done more damage to America than any terrorist could have......

.......hate him ?......no.........condemn his performance....yes....

......we have recreated the Soviet Gulag system.....

.......suspects are sent without trial to remote prisons that operate outside the law........

.......at their height, the Soviet Gulag system had over 7 million prisoners......but the system was very convenient for the State apparatus in that they did not have to bother with cumbersome legalities in dealing with suspects, troublemakers, or most often, whole classes of people who were "accused" but accused without foundation......

......today.......the American Gulag system has over 20 thousand prisoners........

Vernon, you say you're wed to a Filipina. I cannot conceive of many Asian women who'd put up with your shit, but could it be, by some stretch of the imagination, Michelle Malkin?

"When we travel we always get pulled aside for extra scrutiny (should I be pissed?)" I'll bite, Vern. ARE you pissed? herm

If you were the recently released Gitmo detainee, what would a tough guy like you do

Posted by axe at 2008-05-21 12:43 PM | Reply

I'd position myself for a $25 million lawsuit. Just like your retarded ass-- well maybe you're too stoopid

I cannot conceive of many Asian women who'd put up with your shit,

"When we travel we always get pulled aside for extra scrutiny (should I be pissed?)" I'll bite, Vern. ARE you pissed? herm

Posted by herm at 2008-05-21 03:01 PM | Reply

Women are the same worldwide, you turd. They want a strong, focused man who is devoted to them alone and works hard to provide for the family. Most real men learn this at 17, but you have to learn it on a blog. But you would not know that living in you mom's basement, fucking off online while she work's at Wal-Mart.

Herm, have you ever kissed a girl? (relatives don't count) Ever travelled outside the county?

And no (I realize that 'travel' to you is mystical) we don't get pissed for security checks. It's just part of living the international life that you cannot even imagine.

Now go to McDonald's and have the Mandarin Chicken salad.

......the FBI verified it....they refused to cooperate......not wanting to cross the line to criminality......

Posted by skizziks at 2008-05-21 01:05 PM | Reply

Sorry, Skkimarks, but the FBI is vigilate about domestic crime. If it doesn't happen on American soil, they won't touch it.

Your lame ass attempt to use the FBI to endorse your political goals is just horse shit. try harder next time

I cannot conceive of many Asian women who'd put up...

Posted by herm at 2008-05-21 03:01 PM | Reply

Let's be honest Herm. You can't concieve of any woman. Someone with brown skin, black hair and an accent -- next to you at night -- is more than fantasy.

But aim high. Someday when you get a passport and $5000 you can go to Thailand and buy prostitutes. Even children! I see creeps like you all the time in the terminals at San Francisco, Nagoya and Manila

"But aim high. Someday when you get a passport and $5000 you can go to Thailand and buy prostitutes.

Posted by vernon at 2008-05-21 05:36 PM"

Or you can Vernon's route and choose a discount model for as little as $50 and a couple of Big Mac supersize meals (in his case, a fat Filipina with a bad case of psoriasis.)