banned the use of the world "cult" in peaceful public demonstrations.

and you muslims are eroding our freedoms?

ha!

Klifferd,

No, the Left defending its own with typical heavy-handed action.

Ahh, yes... The partisan hacks argue whether they can use this for anti-left or anti-right attacks---all while they ignore that a TEENAGER was ARRESTED for USING A WORD. Shameful. I hope rational minds prevail in this case and they drop the charges. Unbelievable.

According to libs, Europeans are more advanced societies. This type of "hate speech control" is alive and well in our leftist controlled universities. All who believe in freedom should fight this wherever they see it.

Nope, this is all people who are sooooo sensitive about their own beliefs that they can't stand a name being brandished on theirs so they insist no language that can be construed as inciteful can be used. I don't give a shit about Europe, but if we do that B.S. here we are trampling free speech. I wanna be called a fucking whacko, cultish, devil loving atheist by anyone here who feels that is what I represent(as incorrect as it may be)....but I also reserve the right to call religions the brainwashing, ignorance creating, pedophile loving, woman hating frauds they are..........


LM

How in the hell can a teenager be arrested for using the word "cult" when hate groups like the WBC can hold up signs that say "God Hates Fags" and be legally protected while doing so

I guess it's just the difference between free speech policies in England vs. the United States.

Klifferd,

No, the Left defending its own with typical heavy-handed action.

Posted by jonryker at 2008-05-20 08:34 AM


You obviously don't know the difference between left and right.

"Europeans are more advanced societies. "

Make no mistake: the UK is not part of Europe.

The British seem to be almost gleefully creating the ultimate totalitarian state of which the proponents of the controlled society presented in Orwell's book "1984" can be most proud.

What the hell are the Brits thinking? I read more every day about the unbelievable intrusive and controlling state into which the UK is mutating.

"Hey Brother, Where You bound?"

Time for V!

"I guess it's just the difference between free speech policies in England vs. the United States."

Posted by crescentwindx

Yeah? Speak out against the Israelis, publicly state that you will not do business with Israel or buy/sell products manufactured in Israel because you disagree with Israeli policies concerning the Palestinians and you will see how free your speech is in the US.

GEt a grip people. A cop gave the kid a summons, he hasn't even been to court yet. Likely the court will throw it out. People get arrested or get tickets in the US every day that eventually get thrown out of court. My son got a ticket once and when he went to court the judge threw out every single ticket issued by the scum bag cop because he was just harrassing people driving through Golden Beach which is a beach enclave of mega rich assholes.

GEt a grip people. A cop gave the kid a summons, he hasn't even been to court yet.

You beat me to it Danni. Normally this would be my response to something like this.

Speak out against the Israelis, publicly state that you will not do business with Israel or buy/sell products manufactured in Israel because you disagree with Israeli policies concerning the Palestinians and you will see how free your speech is in the US.

Do you think you can't say that for fear of persecution or prosecution?

Yeah? Speak out against the Israelis, publicly state that you will not do business with Israel or buy/sell products manufactured in Israel because you disagree with Israeli policies concerning the Palestinians and you will see how free your speech is in the US.

I'm not saying that free speech in the US is perfect; I just have an incredibly hard time believing that someone peacefully protesting the Church of Scientology with a sign that said "cult" on it would be arrested in the US.

It's not nice to piss off Xenu.
Ask Tom Cruise.
He used to be much taller.

Yeah? Speak out against the Israelis, publicly state that you will not do business with Israel or buy/sell products manufactured in Israel because you disagree with Israeli policies concerning the Palestinians and you will see how free your speech is in the US.


Posted by ZOT

I didn't know that! They threw you in jail for that here in the US? WOW, I'm gonna hafta remember that.

Bob,

Well, arresting people for criticizing a leftist cult is not a rightist act....

Danni,

Point is, what business do they have harassing this kid for speaking his mind on an issue in which he is demonstrably correct? No big deal, huh....Well, as a socialist, you are, not doubt, much more comfortable with the notions of governments bullying their citizens for no good reason at all.....Some of us have higher ambitions for the freedom of citizens....Don't worry, Hitler and Stalin would have agreed with you....

I guess you guys know that the brits have no 'bill of rights' like we do. How buut you loosie lefties, still want to be like thoes europeans?

"How buut you loosie lefties, still want to be like thoes europeans?"

Have you upgraded to a double-wide yet?

Not yet doc but you's looks nice. I guess it has lots more room than that camper you had last week.

How buut you loosie lefties, still want to be like thoes europeans?


did Tony Blair kill 7000 British soldiers just to watch them die like Bubba did?
How many Americans were detained, not just issued summons for daring to protest within a mile of Bush?
And yeah, if we had speech laws like the euro-weenies, Mike Huckabee couldn't do his let's go shoot the nigger skit for the NRA.

And for ther Fighty Righty's blaming the liberals, maybe they should get someone to read them the article:



Writing on the same website, another anonymous demonstrator said: "We also protested outside another Scientology building in Tottenham Court Road which is policed by a separate force, the Metropolitan police, who have never tried to stop us using the word cult.

"We're completely peaceful protesters expressing a perfectly valid opinion. This whole thing stinks."

Liberty director, Shami Chakrabarti, said: "This barmy prosecution makes a mockery of Britain's free speech traditions

The City of London police came under fire two years ago when it emerged that more than 20 officers, ranging from constable to chief superintendent, had accepted gifts worth thousands of pounds from the Church of Scientology.

The City of London Chief Superintendent, Kevin Hurley, praised Scientology for "raising the spiritual wealth of society" during the opening
of its headquarters in 2006.


Sounds like the cops (all well known to be libruls, are the ones doing the thought control).

Reality, not the friend of the Right.

Cop has poor eyesight and thought the sign said Scientology is a cunt.

"but you's looks nice"

Why, thank you, Sniper. I don't know whether to bow or curtsy.

"They threw you in jail for that here in the US?"

Posted by Sniper

Never stated that one would be thrown in jail.

Cop has poor eyesight and thought the sign said Scientology is a cunt.

Must be a McSame supporter...

If you squat to pee you should curtsy, if you stand then just bow. But whatever you do, don't forget to kiss the queen's ring.

According to libs, Europeans are more advanced societies. This type of "hate speech control" is alive and well in our leftist controlled universities. All who believe in freedom should fight this wherever they see it.

Posted by fwthom at 2008-05-20 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag:


You right-wing, religious nut cases should all be in favor of this as you can use it to try and quell dissent when it comes to your own crazy fairy tale of a religion.

You're going to judge an entire continent on this incident? This is why you should look at your
"leftist controlled universities" comment. Now, why do you think that is?

I wanna be called a fucking whacko, cultish, devil loving atheist by anyone here who feels that is what I represent(as incorrect as it may be)....but I also reserve the right to call religions the brainwashing, ignorance creating, pedophile loving, woman hating frauds they are..........


LM

Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at 2008-05-20 08:58 AM | Reply | Flag:


You have the right to call them whatever you want but you might want to learn a few things before you make yourself look like an ass.

Such as: "devil loving atheist".

?????? WTF is a devil loving atheist? Learn the definition of 'atheist' before you go throwing it around.

Peace is a dirty word,
She used to be a painted bird.
And war she's a whore,
Don't you know we love her,
More and More.

- The Cult

No, the Left defending its own with typical heavy-handed action.

Posted by jonryker

Yeah, that's it. Scientologists are leftists.
What a maroon.

Hopefully England has their own version of the ACLU to defend this kid.

Rastacyborg,

Well, would you call all those Hollywood types that belong to it and fund it Righties?

This is a perfect example of why we should do away with hate speech laws. They can make it a crime to express perfectly valid opinions about religious and other groups.

However, the charges will most likely be dropped.

Stay tuned for more news from Air Strip One.

This isn't a "left" issue or a "right" issue. The Church of Scientology is dangerous because they have successfully and unsuccessfully infiltrated various governments around the world. The note in the article regarding the bribing of police is plausible, and is the least they would have done to silence Anonymous.

Google "Operation Snow White" for more information. In addition to infiltrating the IRS, the government of Clearwater, FL, where the CoS headquarters is located, is also heavily influenced by the CoS.

Thankfully, in the EU they've had more balls to stand up to the CoS and now they're treated like a dangerous pyramid scheme, which they are. Here in the US, our government folded under the pressure of litigation and granted the CoS tax-exempt status, which greatly increased it's strength here in the states.

Please do your part to end the CoS's grip on our government and it's policy of dividing families by writing your state senators and representatives, and ask them why the CoS still has tax exempt status.

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.

Oh god anon going after CoS on MY drudge?

gb2 that place we don't talk about

Anon is everywhere brother. Even on the DR.

But whatever you do, don't forget to kiss the queen's ring.

That's the Pope. You just have to kiss her hand. Didn't you watch "The Queen" with Helen Mirren"? Get the 4-1-1 on bowing, ma'aming and back not turning.

Or did yhou think that was a Bush-bashing bio.

And Commander Ryker-the ACLU was used by well known librul Lush Rimbaugh to cover his junkie ass, as well as the KKK, or as you Righties call them, the GOP Candidate Pool.

Join me on the bridge, where we'll all go OTL and get clear!

Commander Ryker,

When your ass or your right to free speech is on the line, I think you'd rather like to have the ACLU on your side.

It's just like the cops. Cops tend to have a bad image because they have to equally enforce laws, even to our own detriment. Get a ticket for jaywalking, and cops are pricks. But cops protect and serve equally (in most cases), and you'll rely on them why your life is on the line.

No matter how much an ACLU lawyer may hate someone's message or their behavior, the ACLU will defend you equally. So you can piss on them now all you want, but I doubt you'd turn away their help when you need it.

You forgot to tell me when the law was enacted.

Like, it's a new law enacted by them damn republicans?

During the mid-1970's the United States adopted two laws that seek to counteract the participation of U.S. citizens in other nation's economic boycotts or embargoes. These "antiboycott" laws are the 1977 amendments to the Export Administration Act (EAA) and the Ribicoff Amendment to the 1976 Tax Reform Act (TRA).

I wonder who was president then?

"Danni,

Point is, what business do they have harassing this kid for speaking his mind on an issue in which he is demonstrably correct? No big deal, huh....Well, as a socialist, you are, not doubt, much more comfortable with the notions of governments bullying their citizens for no good reason at all.....Some of us have higher ambitions for the freedom of citizens....Don't worry, Hitler and Stalin would have agreed with you...."

Jon, the ACLU has the highest of "ambitions??" for the freedom of Americans but righties seem to hate them for it. Their ONLY mission is to demand that the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights is respected as the highest law of the land.

dan, in reviewing the past record of the ACLU, they realy stretch the constitution. They read a lot more into it than there is.

" No big deal, huh....Well, as a socialist, you are, not doubt, much more comfortable with the notions of governments bullying their citizens for no good reason at all....."
read the PATRIOT Act. Which president demands Loyalty Oaths before he will speak to taxpayers and voters?
George Bush is a socialist?

My God, the Frighty Rightys ARE desperate to get away from that clown, ain't they? Next up on Rightwingnut News- GWB is really Osama bin laden.

"dan, in reviewing the past record of the ACLU, they realy stretch the constitution. They read a lot more into it than there is."

They only present their case, the courts make the decisions.

"dan, in reviewing the past record of the ACLU, they realy stretch the constitution. They read a lot more into it than there is."

They only present their case, the courts make the decisions.

They only present their case, the courts make the decisions.

Posted by danni

I didn't know that!

Take a look at the cases, not the decisions. Much more to do with lib and not the constitution.

Danni,

I didn't mention the ACLU...They've gone off the deep end from what used to be a sensible mission. Now, they only help certain ilks....

These "antiboycott" laws are the 1977 amendments to the Export Administration Act (EAA) and the Ribicoff Amendment to the 1976 Tax Reform Act (TRA).

Read this nor.

Rastacyborg,

Well, would you call all those Hollywood types that belong to it and fund it Righties?

Posted by jonryker

I wouldn't call them "Lefties". I know you've been brainwashed to believe that everyone in Hollywood is a leftist commie. And, just in case you didn't know, those Hollywood types make up a tiny percentage of scientologists.
As long as scientology stays out of my life and my government, I have no problem with it. I do get endless amusement from watching nutjobs from other religions call scientologists crazy.

"?????? WTF is a devil loving atheist? Learn the definition of 'atheist' before you go throwing it around."

All most exactly what I asked when the first rightie typed that to me out here, so yeah, I KNOW what I am and what I believe in.....do you?

Don't be so quick to try and talk shit when YOU don't get the message, but hey I would have thought common sense would have prevailed there....


LM

Take a look at the cases, not the decisions. Much more to do with lib and not the constitution.

Posted by Sniper

The ACLU's mission is to enforce the Bill of Rights. Unfortunately, it has limited resources and has to choose where to allocate them. Why should they waste time defending things like gun rights when the NRA has all the resources to do that already?
Conservatives worship guns and corporations, neither of which need any help from the ACLU.

Rastacyborg,

So, you're ok that the ACLU champions only Leftist causes and that somehow, they don't lose credibility by doing this?

You don't really know anything about scientologists if you don't think that Hollywood actors are a major source of both funding and membership.

If you don't think they've influenced government, just listen to the anti-Bush nonsense emanating from Hollywood scientologists which comes straight out of Pelosi's mouth, and then, straight out yours, and feeds right into Obomba's campaign appeal...If you don't think their money and influence is helping AlGore spread his Global Warming Mythology, then you've been asleep.

Take a look at the cases, not the decisions. Much more to do with lib and not the constitution.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-05-20 12:16 PM | Reply | Flag

Fine, you don't like the ACLU. Too bad for you. Now suck it up and quit whining like a little bitch all the time.

I'm learning it from you com. You are an execlent teacher.

Johnny Boy, why the hell do you bother? Do you think every group with an evil agenda is tied to "libruls" somehow? Last time I checked, the KKK was populated with former DixieCrats, which now call themselves Republicans. The ACLU has defended the KKK's right to free speech.

Does that sound like a leftist cause, Moron?

And how the hell do you figure the Scientologists have anything to do with Pelosi? Any why the HELL do you work in the educational system!?!?!?!

Get the hell away from those kids!

Take a look at the cases, not the decisions. Much more to do with lib and not the constitution.

Posted by Sniper

Well, I can see how you might make that distinction if you don't recognize that the Bill of Rights is a liberal document.

DDenton,

Ahhhh...there you are, barking orders at people again....

As conceived, the ACLU was non-partisan. Now, to call it such is "a willful suspension of disbelief.", as one of your more respected sages would say....

Listen to what she says. Listen to what they say. Match the shapes. Which came first, them or her?

YES WE CAN!

As conceived, the ACLU was non-partisan. Now, to call it such is "a willful suspension of disbelief.", as one of your more respected sages would say....

Listen to what she says. Listen to what they say. Match the shapes. Which came first, them or her?

YES WE CAN!

Posted by jonryker


It's more plausible to me that the current administration and it's supporters (YOU) are falling on the wrong side of civil rights issues that would make our founding fathers turn in their graves, which is why you see the ACLU as a liberal entity. I'm sure it's similar to the way you assert Obama is a muslim or a terrorist because you're afraid of what his presidency might bring. Fairness and prosperity to people who don't think, look, or act like you.

It's clear you've never done any reading on L Ron Hubbard and how/why he founded the religion (to make money). Do us a favor (or don't do us a favor and not respond at all) and provide ANY shred of evidence beyond your own twisted sense of reality that suggests Pelosi has anything to do with scientology. Then we can all, as you say "match the shapes".

I'm curious does the state you live in require a teaching degree before they unleashed you on those poor children?

"...We should do away with Hate-Speech"

We should do away with hate first...

All religions are Cults. They have a Moron for a leader and a bunch of minion morons as followers.

That's all you need for a cult.

Danni,

Well, if you wanna equate the social value of the ACLU with the social value of Rush Limbaugh, I think that's ok with me. Then again, he's one man....I don't think that's a very strong case to support them....I certainly wouldn't consult Rush Limbaugh on the appropriateness of federal legal matters any more than I would the ACLU.....So, why do you think they're important?

"Well, if you wanna equate the social value of the ACLU with the social value of Rush Limbaugh"

That would be ridiculous, I was just mentioning that the ACLU did defend him on constitutional grounds so obviously they don't just help "certain ilks."

Danni the Jonryker has been preaching that the ACLU is only defending "librul" causes. The problem (me thinks) is that the Jon needs to see his doctor.. I think he has a tumor as his brain can only see one side of an issue.

The ACLU defends Constitutional issues. It just so happens that most of those issues "appear" to be liberal. I would imagine that is because Republicans really don't understand the Constitution.

Just my opinion.

Danni,

Oh...that is a better point, then...

Still, they aren't quite so stupid as to help ONLY pervert nut-jobs.....They do understand a bit about PR.....but when one examines the body of their work, it becomes a pretty clear trend....This is why they in fact do lack credibility...People dont see them as even-handed...In fact, they no longer are....

oh an BTW Scientology is a CULT...

Come and get me Thetans!

Donnerboy,

Saw your concern about my brain tumor. I must say, I think that was pretty funny, and I'm not kidding...

If I said "liberal", I should not have. I should have said "leftist" causes.

Now maybe some of the US right wingers will start supporting the 1st amendment a bit more instead of only worrying about the 2nd. It is also quite interesting to note that the group that appears to be the biggest defender of the 1st amendment is more derided by the right. Say it with me class, the A.C.L.U.

I think we should all support all the Ammendments. If we did, the Federal Government would be much smaller and we'd all be much richer....Or, at least, those of us with jobs would be....

Donnerboy,

Saw your concern about my brain tumor. I must say, I think that was pretty funny, and I'm not kidding...

If I said "liberal", I should not have. I should have said "leftist" causes.

Posted by jonryker at 2008-05-20 02:42 PM

good now go see the Doc as the "leftist" side of your brain is malfunctioning... you may have tumor too!

ALL "religions" are CULTS.

jonryker

Well, arresting people for criticizing a leftist cult is not a rightist act....


Posted by jonryker at 2008-05-20 09:56 AM |

There is no such thing as a leftist cult(link?), and restriction of Free Speech is a rightist goal and tactic. Ever heard of a liberal at a Bush rally?

There is no such thing as a leftist cult(link?),


How do you know?



restriction of Free Speech is a rightist goal and tactic. Ever heard of a liberal at a Bush rally?

Uh huh.

PC speech codes
"The Fairness Doctrine" (sic)
Bombarding Conservative speakers with food and invective

Who knew all of that came from the right?

Bob,

If a cult is occupied by and funded by leftists, its a leftist cult.

? So Hitler and Stalin didn't repress everything they could get their hands on?

Anyway, though, why would you care about this? Don't you firmly beleive that governments have all the rights and can do whatever they want?

I've never been to a Bush rally, so I don't know, but I susect that there are plenty of lefties there. I know the press always is, so that's a guarantee of lefties....

I've never been to a Bush rally, so I don't know, but I susect that there are plenty of lefties there. I know the press always is, so that's a guarantee of lefties....


Is that because the press is full of lefties, or because lefties love press, in your view?

I'm curious how one even begins to make such a claim.

"The ACLU Defends Gun Rights

Jacob Sullum | April 6, 2007, 5:53pm"

www.reason.com

Posted by danni

We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one, intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government. In today's world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles. The ACLU therefore believes that the Second Amendment does not confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons nor does it prohibit reasonable regulation of gun ownership, such as licensing and registration.

WTF over.

You have to do one heck of a lot of reading betewwn the lines to come up with that!!

How can you say they support the bill of rights with that stand. They pick and choose which of the 10 they like.

"I'm curious how one even begins to make such a claim.

Posted by ddenton at 2008-05-20 03:55 PM"

Step#1 : View nothing but Fox News and read nothing but the Washington Times

Step#2 : Have your cerebral cortex yanked out through your nose

Step#3 : Repeat step #1.

All set!!

Danni...

Someone from the right would know how to read between the lines as I have seem similar contortions to justify school prayer, teaching intelligent design, abstinence only education...the list goes on and on.

Being an immigrant, I simply don't understand America's fixation on guns. Therefore, I really don't have a problem with the a reasonable amount of gun control as I have simply seen enough Columbine style shootings in America. The need to have enough fire power to kill 20 people in 20 seconds is not something I am comfortable with the average joe possessing. If that makes me a liberal, so be it.

Cue the following statements...
- When you make guns against the law, only outlaws have guns
- ...out of my cold dead hands
- An armed society is a polite society

(just thought I would save some of you some typing)

I am comfortable with the average joe possessing. If that makes me a liberal, so be it.

Posted by IrishInUSA

If you don't like our bill of rights, all ten of them, what are you staying here for?

I know a few fellows in Ireland that would like to fight you over that statement.

There is a place in this country called Washington DC. Guns arn't allowed there so you should feel real comfortable if you would move there.

Half the year I live in a place where 911 help can be as much as 2 hours away after 10PM. But why should you give a shit?

"You have to do one heck of a lot of reading betewwn the lines to come up with that!!

How can you say they support the bill of rights with that stand. They pick and choose which of the 10 they like."

Sniper, first you say I posted what you put there but that is not in the link I supplied. It is part of the ACLU position on guns but there is more to it than just that. The ACLU position is based on the following:

"If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction."

So, basicly the ACLU says that since Congress can limit some forms of weapons which a well armed militia might require then Congress can make limitations on guns themsleves. They are neutral though on the rightness or wrongness of those laws and are really just defending their understanding of the Constitution.

I've never been to a Bush rally, so I don't know, but I susect that there are plenty of lefties there. I know the press always is, so that's a guarantee of lefties....


Is that because the press is full of lefties, or because lefties love press, in your view?

I'm curious how one even begins to make such a claim.

Posted by ddenton at 2008-05-20 03:55 PM

I told you he has a Teddy Tumor only it is on the Right side of his brain and it causes him to not be able to understand anything that is considered liberal or leftist. It has given him this "leftist" fixation because he cannot understand it. Its like a black hole to him.

That includes the Constitution. I think he should see a doctor about that right away. Early treatment is vital.

So, basicly the ACLU says that since Congress can limit some forms of weapons which a well armed militia might require then Congress can make limitations on guns themsleves.

Posted by danni

Where did congress get the right to limit some forms of weapons???

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

What that says:

A well regulated militia is necessary to protect the security of a free state. Therefor the right of the people (the same individuals that are in the other amendments)to own weapons shall not be infringed.

How you can make that a collective right is beyond me.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Is that a collective right too?

Where does it say that government has the right to controle some weapons? I must have missed that part with my selective reading.

Where does it say that government has the right to controle some weapons? I must have missed that part with my selective reading.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-05-20 06:24 PM

are you a complete idiot in real too or are you just pretending to be one here on the DR?

Does the government have the right to control nuclear weapons and if so why?

Does the government have the right to control missles (non-nuclear) if so why?

Does the government have the right to control tanks and fighter jets and if so why?

Does the government have the right to control anti aircraft weapons and if so why?

Shall I go on? Or do you get the point?

Ok let me spell it out... there is a point at which will have to draw the line and say that private citizens cannot have this type of weapon it is too powerful and is not necessary. Someone has to decide as it is NOT in the Constitution. We have to the right to bear arms is all it says. It does not say what kinds and how it will be regulated but it does mention a well regulated militia.

The devil is in the detail huh, snippy?

"Yeah? Speak out against the Israelis, publicly state that you will not do business with Israel or buy/sell products manufactured in Israel because you disagree with Israeli policies concerning the Palestinians and you will see how free your speech is in the US."

Posted by ZOT

Huh? There is a grocery store in my neighborhood (San Francisco, CA) that has banned Israeli-made goods for exactly those reasons. They are still in business and have been for years now. They proudly display a sign to that effect on a bulletin board. I happen to disagree with them, but other than losing me as customer, they have not been troubled by the law or any such thing. I certainly support their right to an opinion and they should be allowed (and ARE allowed, by all appearances) to sell or not sell whatever they want in the US.

Jeff J

There is no such thing as a leftist cult(link?),

"How do you know?"

I never heard of one--that's why I asked for the link.



restriction of Free Speech is a rightist goal and tactic. Ever heard of a liberal at a Bush rally?

"Uh huh."

Link? They have goons at the doors to keep opposing views away.


"PC speech codes
"The Fairness Doctrine" (sic)
Bombarding Conservative speakers with food and invective

Who knew all of that came from the right?"

Ever heard of a LINK?

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-05-20 03:33 PM | Reply

I was raised Methodist. I have attended, Catholic, Baptist, Episcopal, Mormon and Christian Evangelical church services. I think "cult" could be applied to any of these groups. Anyone offended by a "word" has low self-esteem and scares me. Nearly every organized group shows some attributes of cult behavior. Any group saying - "follow these rules or be sent to purgatory", sounds like a cult to me. Cult is such a narrow term that seems to be applied to any group that people disagree with. Makes me think of Fahrenheit 451.