They were only godless communists who believed in brotherhood and cooperation over capitalism, right? It's not like they have souls to worry about or anything.

But if we claimed that his happened before the final official recognition of the facts we'd be called anti-American conspiracy theorists.

But if we claimed that his happened before the final official recognition of the facts we'd be called anti-American conspiracy theorists.

Posted by danni

You mean I'm not an anti-American conspiracy theorist?

Talk about disillusionment.

What's past is past.
Bury it.
Yrs,
The "Yes, We're" Right

"Bury it."

FF

Gee, I wonder if Kim Jung Il will tell his people about this???

Gee, I wonder if Kim Jung Il will tell his people about this???

Posted by danni

Hopefully the addage that no publicity is bad publicity is true.

You can't buy that kind of publicity.

"i hate gooks. i will hate them for the rest of my life" - john mccain

South Korea Executed 100,000 During War

Germany executed 7,000,000 during War. Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?

Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?


Because they were dirty Jews and deserved it.

Germany executed 7,000,000 during War. Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-19 09:20 AM

I don't know, maybe because our government never disputed that number?

Good Goat.

What's past is past.
Bury it.
Yrs,
The "Yes, We're" Right

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-05-19 08:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Are you talking about the undeclared war (first time ever for the U.S.) that Truman got us into on behalf of the beloved United Nation? Is that it?

I don't know, maybe because our government never disputed that number?


But the US denies the 100,000? Is that what you imply? I did not read that in this article.

Shortly after the Allies achieved victory in Europe, Truman was faced with one of the most awesome decisions faced by anyone in world history; he decided to drop the first atomic bombs on Imperial Japan. The two bombs ultimately killed more than 200,000 people. Truman struggled through the Korean War, apparently unable to bring it to a close, and faced a frustrated and angry Congress that was beginning to threaten impeachment proceedings against him. He declined to run for president again in 1952 and returned home.

"Germany executed 7,000,000 during War. Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?"

Maybe because we weren't Germany's ally and because it is common knowledge and has been for decades.

Maybe because we weren't Germany's ally and because it is common knowledge and has been for decades.

So now that "recently declassified documents" have uncovered this atrocity, can we acknowledge it and get on with life, or do we have to wallow in it and indulge in self-flagellation for decades before we can move on?

South Korea Executed 100,000 During War

Germany executed 7,000,000 during War. Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-19 09:20 AM | Reply


The 100,000 the South Koreans killed have just been discovered--we've known about the 7,000,000 for 63 years.

The 100,000 the South Koreans killed were their own citizens. The 7,000,000 killed by the Germans were mostly foreignors to Germany.

The 100,000 killed by South Korea were killed by one of our allies. The 7,000,000 killed by Germany were not killed by one of our allies.

The United States knew about the 100,000 and did nothing. The United States knew about the 7,000,000 and pursued war crimes trials against the perpetrators.

South Korea told the American people about the 100,000. Why didn't our government ever mention it to the American people?

The reason we don't see a thread about the 7,000,000 is because you haven't put one up.

Germany executed 7,000,000 during War. Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?

There have been dozens of news stories posted on the Retort regarding the Holocaust.

But the US denies the 100,000? Is that what you imply? I did not read that in this article.

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-19 09:34 AM

The US didn't deny it. They never said anything, even though it was known. Does someone who sees a murder have any responsibility to report it?

The 7,000,000 killed by the Germans were mostly foreignors to Germany.

Not true. They were German citizens who happened to be Jewish.

There have been dozens of news stories posted on the Retort regarding the Holocaust.

You are right. I've seen a few of them. Mine was a rhetorical question meant to provoke thought about the similiarities in the two incidents yet the different manners in which we treat the two.

Correction/illucidation

They were German citizens who happened to be Jewish.

=

They were German citizens or citizens of a German occupied country who happened to be Jewish.

Most of those killed were foreignors.

Yeah, I guess that makes it OK. Glad that clears your concious, bOoB. Carry on.

Correction/illucidation

They were German citizens who happened to be Jewish.

=

They were German citizens or citizens of a German occupied country who happened to be Jewish.

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-19 10:19 AM | Reply


Was your first statement mistaken?

Was your first statement mistaken?

Read into it what you wish, bOoB, since that is what you will do anyway

Was your first statement mistaken?

Read into it what you wish, bOoB, since that is what you will do anyway

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-19 10:27 AM


I was asking you. Too tough a question?

Germany executed 7,000,000 during War. Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?

Posted by goatman

Russia killed about 3 times that many when big joe took power. Let's talk about that one!!!

"During the period of the Holocaust of World War II, Poland lost:

* 45% of her doctors,
* 57% of her attorneys
* 40% of her professors,
* 30% of her technicians,
* more than 18% of her clergy
* most of her journalists.


Even after reading about these atrocities for 35 years, these numbers still make me sick

Most of those killed were foreignors.

Yeah, I guess that makes it OK. Glad that clears your concious, bOoB. Carry on.

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-19 10:23 AM | Reply


What are you talking about? Lay off the lead paint. You asked what the difference was between what south korea did and what the germans did. That was one of the differences dUmmY. Why would that clear my consious? Maybe you meant my Conscience? Why would my conscience be bothered or need cleared, and how did that answer do it?

Can you make sense? You've already shown you aren't man enough to admit a mistake.

;-)

You've already shown you aren't man enough...

The old "you aren't man enough" line again -- as delivered by the DR's favorite eunuch

*yawn*

"Most of those killed were foreignors."

Don't give KaliKrissyK any ideas.

I knew that this sort of shit happened, didn't know on such a large scale. The film "Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War," contains a scene where the South are rounding up "leftists," lining them up in front of graves and capping them. It's a decent movie about the Korean War.

Who the fuck let BuffaloBobShit(tm) out of his straight jacket.

Goatman, don't even respond to that bullshit from the lunatic. Leave him to watching smoke stacks on the moon and whatever color of dots from 9/11.

Germany executed 7,000,000 during War

Nobody ever speaks of the 15+ million that Russia "Stalin" killed

....a new book coming out soon does.

"Nobody ever speaks of the 15+ million that Russia "Stalin" killed"

Really? That's odd. Because I've heard and read about it, various numbers of course. And I guess you must've gotten the news somehow, too. Anyway, pass it along, ok?

Goat,

Are you trying to make a deflection and accuse Koreans ofbeing Nazis? Impossible. Truman was a Democrat and we all know that only Republicans will affiliate with tyrants.

Is there some point where the "Merika! Right or wrong!" crowd will finally wake up and realize that the evil that is done in our name will haunt us for eterity? Will there be a moment of clarity where they come to terms with how badly our client states have acted? Will the American people ever wake up and kick all of these bastards out and start acting the way we are brought up to believe the US should act?

Or will they continue to point fingers "B..but look what so and so did! It's worse than what we did, so it's OK right? Right?"

What nobody seems to have noted is that this execution of leftists by the South enabled it to survive and exist as a nation. These were extreme measures dictated by the necessity for survival. Those were desperate times.

What was the viable alternative?

"this execution of leftists by the South enabled it to survive and exist as a nation."

Interesting statement which, of course, you cannot support because we cannot know what would've happened had those people's lives not been snuffed out.

If you're a lawyer, do your clients a favor and stick to contacts.

Why don't we see this as a thread on the DR?

because, other than to the Bush family and various capitalists like Henry Ford,, the Germans were our enemy?

Mass Murder can never be excused NEVER!!! If the South Koreans an Americans did do this with the knowledge of each other may those responsible burn in hell!!

This idiotic trying to justify this by talking about the German or Russian Killing of there own people is stupid, if anyone has never heard of the German, Russian or Chinese mass killing they were not paying attention, JUST GOOGLE YOU DUMB FUCKS!!!
This Korean incident is news because it is NEW!!!
That is how it works you dumb fucks!!

They were German citizens or citizens of a German occupied country who happened to be Jewish.

Or liberals. Or trade unionists. Or intellectuals and artists.

Same guys the GOP would like to round up here.

But I'm thinkin' the Koreans owe us an apology for going nuts over a few refugees we killed at some bridge.

You are right. I've seen a few of them. Mine was a rhetorical question meant to provoke thought about the similiarities in the two incidents yet the different manners in which we treat the two.

Posted by goatman

How do we treat the two differently Goatseman?
I'm pretty disgusted by both. I'm also disgusted that our government tried to cover it up and even tried to blame it on people who had nothing to do with it.
By the way, if our fearless leader made a statement today blaming North Korea, I'm sure many people (about 25%) would believe every word Georgie said.

"Though U.S. intelligence agencies had knowledge of the killings, U.S. officials denied or downplayed the reports for decades, sometimes blaiming the deaths on the "murderous barbarism" of North Koreans."

But the U.S. fights terrorists.

Johnson,

Are you fucking serious?

Russia killed about 3 times that many when big joe took power. Let's talk about that one!!!

Posted by Sniper

hell, big bubba killed that many soldiers, right Snippy? I'm sure you've got an email to prove it, too.

And Johnson-I think your buddy Adolf believed he had to kill all the jews to save germany. So I'm assuming you are down with Auschwitz too?

"Poland's educated class was purposely targeted because the Nazis knew that this would make it easier to control the country."

Distrust of intellectuals is common to most who don't really believe in freedom, ask Rush Limbaugh.

Distrust of intellectuals is common to most who don't really believe in freedom, ask Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by danni at 2008-05-19 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:


Don't worry Danni...EVERYONE trusts you.

cute Rideon.

I BET IF A REPUBLICAN WAS THE CIC DURING KOREA....THE LIBs ON THIS SITE WOULD SCREEM BLODDY MURDER

would it be the presidents fault for these Mass killings?????

I BET IF A REPUBLICAN WAS THE CIC DURING KOREA....THE LIBs ON THIS SITE WOULD SCREEM BLODDY MURDER

would it be the presidents fault for these Mass killings?????

Posted by judas at 2008-05-19 05:59 PM | Reply | Flag


The libs are screaming bloody murder DummY. It was the Presidents fault. Truman should have told America what happened, and the officers involved should have been jailed. This should be a black mark on Trumans record and put in all the history books.

Now let's hear you say something Bush has done wrong--anything? I didn't think so. Back in line and STFU zombie.

;-)

would it be the presidents fault for these Mass killings?????

Posted by judas at 2008-05-19 05:59 PM | Reply


Absolutely. Yes. If the President knows and says nothing--he is complicit--just as you would be if you knew of a murder and said nothing.

Truman knew.

What nobody seems to have noted is that this execution of leftists by the South enabled it to survive and exist as a nation. These were extreme measures dictated by the necessity for survival. Those were desperate times.

What was the viable alternative?

Posted by Johnson at 2008-05-19 01:53 PM | Reply


Maybe we need to kill the leftists in this country so America can survive. Sound good to you? Got a gun?

Stalin murdered 20 million plus in his purges;Pol Pot executed 2 million - but all we hear about is the Jewish Holocaust!
Funny isn't it but its always the Right Wing war mongers who are the cowardly sponsors and proponents of killing innocent people!

And the first people Hitler targeted were socialist democrats gee i wounder why???

And the first people Hitler targeted were socialist democrats gee i wounder why???

Posted by GenSherman at 2008-05-20 09:08 AM


Because they were the opposite of him. Sounds like you would do the same thing. Gee I wonder why.

I think the U.S. should follow in S. Korea's footsteps and execute 100k (or more) leftists. I love that idea.

Another quiet drooler heard from.

hell, big bubba killed that many soldiers, right Snippy? I'm sure you've got an email to prove it, too.

Posted by northguy3

Has anybody told you that you are a dumb fuck?