Brown Carter

as a muslim american opinion

one who LOVES my country of the usa

barack is probably the only man in politics today that would have any success in our middle east policy

he supports israels right to exist
as do i

he also knows the difference between our enemy in the middle east and those that would help us
unlike john mc"i thought they were all muslim"cain


most importantly a president is the interface of america to the other world leaders.

hamas doesn't endorse mccain, because with mccain its just another day on the battle field.

worst nightmare my ass... mccain is more a nightmare then bush?

with obama there is a real chance for peace and benefit for all parties concerned

hamas doesn't endorse mccain, because with mccain its just another day on the battle field.

Exactly... Hamas, a TERRORIST organization, knows that they won't be in as much danger with Barack Obama in the White House...

They blow up a pizzaria, he'll press for more talks... they'll blow up some busses, he'll really press for more talks...

They blow up a pizzaria, he'll press for more talks... they'll blow up some busses, he'll really press for more talks...

Yeah, that's dumb. Invading sovereign nations works so much better.

Being able to understand someone's position beats making nice-nice with terrorists, something both Bill Clinton and George Bush have done. To wit:

http:// www.clintonfoundation.org/gif/ 091505-clinton-global- initiative13.jpg

rob

i understand your view point

try to understand mine

"won't be in as much danger with Barack Obama in the White House... "

thats the lack of understanding of the enemy that i'm talking about.

First off, America isn't going after Hamas, Israel is
John McCain isn't going to be sending American troops to the Gaza Strip
and Barack is not going to either

so there is no difference there

Why does Hamas like Obama?
Because Hamas sees Obama like many other muslims of the world, a proof that America is not a Crusade against Islam, but really a country that wants a better unified future.

What this means to their cause? Or the Israeli Palestinian Conflict?
Nothing in the near future except maybe somebody who can explain the israeli cause to palestinians better and someone who can explain the palestinian cause to Israel better.

How realistic is this... I'm a cynic and think peace is never going to come.

But at least with Barack, we might have a tiny glimpse of hope. With McCain its at least 4 more years guaranteed of status quo in the area.

Considering that the so-called Right has no idea and does not care about what Mr. Obama will do makes your attempts at policy extrapolation laughable at best.

"does not care about what Mr. Obama will do "


You would prob have a hard time finding anyone any one further to the "so-called right" than me and some of my friends. We not only know what his policy agenda is...we hope, pray, AND "care" .... and plan to work hard so he hopefully goes down in defeat.

First off, America isn't going after Hamas, Israel is
John McCain isn't going to be sending American troops to the Gaza Strip
and Barack is not going to either

But America puts no conditions, currently, on our support for Israel. I'm sorry, but I see Obama as the type of guy to consider cutting off support or at least lessening it if they don't start to negotiate (which in liberal means give up their land) with the Palestinians which thanks to their support of terrorism now includes Hamas.

One of the reasons that "intifada" during 2000-2001 was crushed so heavily and there is rarely a suicide bombing in Israel anymore is because America to the chains off Israel... Bush said, "If they want war with Israel, let them have it," and Israel kicked their fucking teeth in. McCain will continue that policy... that as long as the Palestinians want war they can have it. Obama will try to change that. All that does is weaken Israel and give the Palestinians time to recruit and reload.

They blow up a pizzaria, he'll press for more talks... they'll blow up some busses, he'll really press for more talks...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Yes, and probably give them a really stern look to.

He might say..What are you doing Israel? You are taking away from my message. Or something like that anyway.

I don't expect much from a guy who thinks Israel is just a wound and a sore.

Expect some more back pedaling.




rwd

Well, we do now that Bush's "strategy" has been a complete failure, so what do you propose rightwingdong?

RWD-
re: "I don't expect much from a guy who thinks Israel is just a wound and a sore."

I don't expect anything from one who would either intentionally lie, or from one who is so stupid that they take a lie for the truth of what Obama actually said.

It's a lose/lose for whatever credibility you have.

Well, we do now that Bush's "strategy" has been a complete failure, so what do you propose rightwingdong?

Posted by mOntecOre at 2008-05-14 05:57 PM

Is your question about Israel?

rwd

RWD-
WorldNetDaily?

You can't be serious.

"Democratic presidential front-runner Barack Obama says Israel is a "constant wound" and a "constant sore" that infects "all of our foreign policy.""

That is such a lie. You should be ashamed.

My whole point about this is his misspeaking.

I will not retract my comment about Obama because i think reading this guy is a valid.



rwd

When I first read of Boehner's comments I thought that no one could take them seriously.

I guess I should know by now that there is no lower threshold of gullibility or mendacity left in the Republican party, or in a rag such as WND.

Do you really shape your understanding of the world from sources such as this?

Have fun talking to anyone else.

"I see Obama as the type of guy to consider cutting off support "


BHO will be sure to make all the right noises, and demote pro palestinian advisors... to ensure the Jewish vote.

Because lord knows that Jewish vote really helped Gore and Lieberman...oh, wait.

Hamas is a fan of Obama because they know hew is a muslim that is masquerading as a "Christian". Can you really call a "church" with a pastor that hates white people a church. That is like calling the KKK a protestant church

Well, we do now that Bush's "strategy" has been a complete failure, so what do you propose rightwingdong?

Posted by mOntecOre


In Israel? Bullshit its been a failure...

Bush's policy of "Fuck it... you guys fight it out" has been amazing for Israel and horrific for the Palestinians AKA the Terrorists. Isreal has been able to fortify its borders with walls, they killed a lot of the leadership of terrorist groups, and attacks in Israel are way down...

You can't force these two groups to talk peace, because the Muslims don't want it... they want Israel destroyed... the best way to get them to negotiate is to let them get the shit kicked out of them by Israel for a while without US interference... then they'll talk. Or they will all be dead... either way, there is peace.

Yet another GOLDEN piece of knowledge mr OSUCKA has spewed from his mouth.

I guess its 2004 all over again with the bumper stickers and the T-shirts.

"Every terrorist is for Obama 08"

No doubt they are.

Why don;t the democrats understand this? The real reason the democrats do not talk about, that I will tell you is this.

Democrats LIKE terrorists because the terrorists help them win back seats in congress and the white house.

Without terrorists, democrats are doomed. And they know it.

Whats the biggest punchline at any party you go to around the country?

Who is a democrats best friend during an election?

A terrorist! Thats who!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Kuma

Remember the "Heaven's Gate" cult? Bunch of nuts sitting around in their black Nikes doing web programming before offing themselves as Comet Hale-Bopp approached? I get the impression that Kuma, Timbci, Johnson, and all the rest are actually sitting around the same PC, taking turns. Kinda like a virtual circle jerk. Of jerks.