'effin' religious whackos.

Drop your bibles and step away from your religion.

Kinda makes you proud of the human race, eh?

I wonder how he would feel if somebody sliced his nuts off for having sex in the first place.

Gotta take responsibility dude.

Drop your bibles and step away from your religion.

Posted by DUMPLING1


The stupidest response to a post yet.


rwd

The stupidest response to a post yet.

rwd

Posted by rightwingdon at 2008-05-11 07:25 PM

Hardly--I've read yours, and you surpass stupidity by several stages.

Religion killed that girl. Her father and brothers are brainwashed zombies, just like you. Religion is the cancer of mankind--and you help the disease.

"Drop your Bibles and step away from your religion...."

To be like what? You? I mean, are you seriously offering yourself as some sort of paradigm?

I would have killed her the instant her mother delivered her,"

Posted by rcade

Happens here in the US. Its called partial birth abortion.

What's missing here is the very true point that many pick up their Bibles in the first place because they have stepped away from something or have the ambition to.

Sniper-
What federal legislation governing reproduction would you like?

Happens here in the US. Its called partial birth abortion.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-05-11 07:48 PM | Reply


Hey I thought they had banned that at the Federal Level. As a matter of fact I believe the SCOTUS Declared it constitutional to ban that particular procedure.

Larry Mohr

For all you liberals having trouble understanding why an Iraqi father would feel justified in killing his daughter because she became infatuated with a British soldier, consider the following: What would you do if your daughter became infatuated with the likes of Sniper or RightWingDon? Hell, I'd be tempted to react similarly. No jury would ever convict.

"I would have killed her the instant her mother delivered her,"

Posted by rcade

Happens here in the US. Its called partial birth abortion.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-05-11 07:48 PM

Err, Rcade merely posted the entire story.

That particular sentence was a quote from Abdel-Qader Ali
-- the Iraqi scum who murdered his own daughter.

Correctit me if I'm wrongit, but now that the Deciderer knows the difference between Sunni and Shia, do he know nyet that Muslims donut share Western Values ?

But I rectum they are panting to have a western style Democracy cause that's one of the countless reasons why he invadedit ?

One of the most unsettling realizations you experience when you really do have that come-to-Jesus-moment is that every human being above the age of about twelve wants or has wanted to kill someone and can make a case as to why that action is fully justified.

I am not a xenophobe by any measure but there are times when I just wish we could but a giant fence around the entire region (and this includes Israel)and let them solve their own mess. His sons would be slaughtered if they commit a homosexual act but would he also be willing to stomp and stab them if his precious sons were also "seen in public talking" to a foreign female? Doubtful.

Drop your bibles and step away from your religion.

Posted by DUMPLING1 at 2008-05-11 07:14 PM | Reply

Some illiterate Mulsim who murdered his daughter has a Bible?

Vernon-
Nah. If he had a Bible he would have stoned her.

Why the fuck is this shitpiece free from arrest? Take his balls away at least.

"I am not a xenophobe by any measure but there are times when I just wish we could but a giant fence around the entire region (and this includes Israel)and let them solve their own mess."

Israel has already thought of that. To keep out suicide bombers, Israelis are putting up a 18 foot concrete wall to force them to enter the country legally or not at all. It works. Suicides bombings are way down. People gather in public again and enjoy family gatherings and enjoying their streets.

And, of course, it is widely condemned by Arab countries their allies, and the terrorists groups. The Middle East is a rough neighborhood in which to attempt to live a civilized lives.

LINBC-
re: "The Middle East is a rough neighborhood in which to attempt to live a civilized lives."

Someone should have told the Jews that before they moved in...

Shame.

well, so much for us bringing democracy and free thinking to Iraq. Excuse me while I use the "major fu--ing sarcasm stamp on this story. Bunch of friggin' useless camel jockeys.

Huh? No regard for humanity.

Let me get this straight he murdered his own daughter because she liked a british soldier?

If we had Neanderthal thinking like that we would have dropped about a dozen h-bombs on the middle east and freed the world from the insanity. But we don't.

Ultra-religious people in any culture seem to be on the extreme edge.

Wow, this story was harsh. Kind of like the Cain killing Able gone evil XXXVI!

Think hiroshima and nagasaki,--bagdad and---? These guys live and die by guns and force--free discussion, excuse me while I laugh my friggin arse off!

But I heard that Muslims practice a peaceful religion! What's up with this??? Wonder if future President Osama Obama will advocate honor killings here in America.

Wonder if future President Osama Obama will advocate honor killings here in America.

Why?

Is he Muslim?

I thought his crime was that he followed a crazy Christian pastor for 20 years.

You guys had better get your slurs straight before November.

Can't he be both???

BTW, there is nothing Christian coming out of the mouth of Wright.

After a serious mental health adjustment, he needs to have his own physical adjustment. This one administered by his daughter and all of those that went before.

Hilarious the way the deluded god followers blindly peddle their wares. Hilarious.

This evil act cannot be laid at the feet of
religion - but it can be attributed to ISLAM.

Not all religions are morally equal.

Who commits murders regularly via suicide?
Who treats women like dog crap?
Who is silent when their own do evil?


Muslims are more offended by my picture of the
prophet Mohammad...

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...than they are about this father murdering
his innocent daughter.

Excellent. Soon Iraq will be just like Saudi Arabia, which is what this war is really all about.

Muslims are truly an evil stupid group of people.

Rightwing Christians are truly an evil stupid group of people. (Gee, that post was as pointless and retarded as FWTHOMs.)

"Not all religions are morally equal."

They're all equally false, their followers are all equally deluded. I disagree with you, sir.

Can't he be both???

If enough people believe the lie, I suppose he can.

Muslims are truly an evil stupid group of people.

Posted by fwthom at 2008-05-11 11:17 PM

Self-retorting retort.

You know a thought just occured to Me. The Pro Iraq War folks claim that We are there to promote the spread of Freedom to that enslaved nation. If one believes truly in the value of Freedoms then that would include the Freedom to practice their religion however they so choose to. I find it funny that they are condemning this father for practicing His form of religion as He believes in. Myself personally I find this act abhorant and dastardly. For those of You condemning this guys Muslim Religion only have to look in the Old Testament to see that Parents are to stone their kids to death for insubordination and the like. I hear No cries out being against Christianity but a whole shitload against the Muslim religion. I find this ever so funny considering most of the quran came directly from the Old Testament of the Holy Bible. Funny Dat Be.

Larry Mohr

this man should be tortured and hung along with his sons. We need to make these people change or die.

Amazing how America turned Iraq... a nice easy going place which was totally secular... into what it is today.

America is sick and Christian-Fundo. They spread their cancer to whatever they touch turning peaceful places into violent cesspools.

For those of You condemning this guys Muslim Religion


This has nothing to do with Islam (even though the father used that as an excuse).

It has everything to do with collaborating with the enemy (British soldier in this case).

These people (Brits and Americans) are in uniform in your country and they are there to kill you... and your kid is in love with one of them???

Of course they killed the little slut.

I have white relatives (Americans and British). But then Pakistan is not at war. So obviously Islam was not a problem in our case.

Ness:

"If enough people believe the lie, I suppose he can."

I've known many people with more than one religion in their family trees. But I guess that you are allowing your passion for this man to cloud your thinking. He has admitted that he has a Muslim background already. Get over your man crush on this guy and see him for what he is.

I've known many people with more than one religion in their family trees.


Coming from an American, I doubt it.



see him for what he is


We see you for what you are... no need to see any more.

TOSSER

Off topic for a second . . .

Have you heard anything from WALT? It's been nearly a month since he posted that he was going to Karachi and was asking you how safe the streets were for Americans.

Not to be paranoid but I'm beginning to get visions of Daniel Pearle dancing in my head.

"BTW, there is nothing Christian coming out of the mouth of Wright."

And you know because you have listened to all his sermons. Tools like you react to sound bites and think you have a clear picture of reality. My bet is that you have never read anything longer than two paragraphs in your life yet you still talk as if you had a clue. Laughable.

Twin,


Walt left the DR - at least for awhile.

It was a conscious choice and to the best of my knowledge he is safe.

JEFFJ

Thanks for the update. Walt is so arrogant and self-possessed it wasn't hard for me to imagine that he'd gotten himself in some kind of trouble.

Thanks again.

Have you heard anything from WALT?



No... not yet.



Not to be paranoid but I'm beginning to get visions of Daniel Pearle dancing in my head.


Pearle was an idiot-civilian who got into stuff way over his head. He went looking for trouble even tough warned not to.

Walt, on the other hand, didn't come across as an idiot. He was a soldier once, I gather.

Besides, Karachi is safe and quiet right now that we are talking with the bad-guys about a possible peace-deal.

If anything happens in Karachi, I hear about it instantly.

My pleasure.


He may or may not be how you've characterized him, but I strongly suspect he's very street-wise - I envision him as being very good at risk-avoidance.

However, Walt also mentioned he might be going for Pakistan's "wild west".. Waziristan, etc and look for O'Binbin himself. He had an invitation to stay with someone from that area.

IF he did THAT, then I have to say he's an idiot.

TOSSER

Good Grief! Surely he wasn't serious.

"If anything happens in Karachi, I hear about it instantly."

Karachi - 1356 square miles and 12.5 million people.

My, what big ears you have, grandma.

What's missing here is the very true point that many pick up their Bibles in the first place because they have stepped away from something or have the ambition to.


Posted by Zed



being another form of addiction or deluding of the human brain about the knowledge of the finality and loneliness of the human condition, of course when it creates conditions seperating the human race it is wrong.

Amazing how America turned Iraq... a nice easy going place which was totally secular... into what it is today.

Posted by Tosser
* * * *

Uh huh. It was nice and easy going. Kinda like Dachau was just a genteel place, until the Third Army came in and ruined everything.

I guess if you choose to ignore the rape rooms, the gassings, feeding live human beings through shredders, slaughtering entire families because of the paranoia of the moustache at the top--sure, what's not to like about Iraq?

Please don't change. I need people like you to remind me what we're up against.

Hey, rightiswrong, is that like the incubators from Kuwait?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Where's Osama?


idiot

But I heard that Muslims practice a peaceful religion! What's up with this??? Wonder if future President Osama Obama will advocate honor killings here in America.

Posted by NJDevil



wonder if a pres mitt romney would have called forl for legalize child polygamy?

wonder if a pres john mccain would legalize priest sex with young boys?

oh yeah obama is not a muslim

I am sure the jewish/christain god would NEVER call for a parent to kill their child

well except for abraham, but THAT was a legitimate reason, to test his faith in god,

yep christians are MUCH more civilized

the rape rooms, the gassings, feeding live human beings through shredders, slaughtering entire families because of the paranoia of the moustache at the top



Most of it is propaganda to make the American public feel better about what their soldiers were fooled into doing.

Never happened.

When there is one lie (WMD anyone?) it takes at least 2 dozen more lies to support it.

I need people like you to remind me what we're up against. Please don't change.


And your Chimp needs people like you to keep the flames burning.

I wish you would change, but I don't think you have it in you.

Most of it is propaganda to make the American public feel better about what their soldiers were fooled into doing.

Never happened.

When there is one lie (WMD anyone?) it takes at least 2 dozen more lies to support it.

Posted by Tosser
* * * *

Really. So all those people in those mass graves, where did they come from?

Fair enough. You don't change, neither will I. You're blind to the evil that was Saddam, along with many of the other posters on this site. Good for you.

those mass graves, where did they come from?


You filled those graves. Your embedded reporters pinned it on the usual suspects.



You're blind to the evil that was Saddam



Oh, I never said he wasn't evil. He was (but rape room? shredders? LOL).

I am saying You are a far greater evil.

Oh.

So the mass graves were from . . . me? I did it? How about the gassings of the Kurds? Did he invade Kuwait, or no?

But I'm the "far greater evil"? Now what . . . wait a minute . . . are you my ex-wife?

That would explain a lot, actually. Carry on.

How about the gassings of the Kurds?


Iranians.



So the mass graves were from . . . me? I did it?



Your tax money made it possible, no?

So yes, you are responsible.

Even if Saddam was all that bad... who gave him weapons and stuff for his army and police??? America did! LOL

Look it up.



Did he invade Kuwait, or no?


Kuwait was supposed to be part of Iraq. He was only trying to get back what was his.

He was an idiot to do what he did, but he wasn't totally wrong.

Why support an arrogant tiny pipsqueak of an oil sheikhdom that is responsible for expensive petrol?

India also invaded the Portuguese colony of Goa. Just took it over and threw them out. These things happen and might not be wrong. The portuguese had no right to be on Indian soil and neither did the fucking british.

Sort of same with Kuwait.

Can the Golden Rule ever defear the dark forces of tribalism? How?

The tribal impulses that lead to murderous hearts such as this man's are so deeply inbred and ingrained, I fear there may be no escape from its evil black hole. Eventually could it consume every spark of goodness, light and virtue?

Can the Golden Rule ever defeat the dark forces of tribalism? How?

The tribal impulses that lead to murderous hearts such as this man's are so deeply inbred and ingrained, I fear there may be no escape from its evil black hole. Eventually could it consume every spark of goodness, light and virtue?

Wow.

Well, you'll be surprised to hear that in the past couple of years I've come around to your point of view on a couple of things. I'm completely confident that every dollar we spend in the Middle East in hopes they will somehow magically reform themselves--as Nazi Germany and Militarist Japan did, for example--is a fool's errand. What do you do, when hundreds of millions of people prefer tribalism to a democratic republic? When hundreds of millions of people prefer to live in the ninth century, as opposed to the twenty first?

Nah. We're just throwing good money after bad. Despite trillions of dollars worth of oil revenues, I can't think of a single company in the Islamic world that makes, say, pharmaceuticals. Or chemicals. Or agricultural equipment, jet planes, automobiles, computers. Even the stuff they need to get the oil out of the ground comes from here--how hard is it to make a drill bit? That part of the world invented mathematics, accounting, and banking--yet now relies on New York, London, Singapore and Frankfurt for their capital markets.

So I hear you. What fellowship hath light, with darkness?--etc.

I was typing my post and didn't see T&C's, which is very good. And coincidentally similar.

who gave him weapons and stuff for his army and police??? America did! LOL

Look it up.

I did. Now, tell me which US corporations manufacture FROG-7's, Scud-B's, T-62 and T-72 tanks, BMP armored personnel carriers, MiG-25 Foxbats, and Mirage F1's?

How about the gassings of the Kurds?

Posted by rightisright


Need I remind you who gave him the precursor chemicals used to make the gas that he used on the Kurds?

FROG-7's, Scud-B's, T-62 and T-72 tanks, BMP armored personnel carriers, MiG-25 Foxbats, and Mirage F1's?



The equipment for the poison gas stuff came from the US, for example.

Need I remind you who gave him the precursor chemicals used to make the gas that he used on the Kurds?

Posted by ddenton
* * * *

Apparently I did. But at the time it was agreed that we needed to have a strong Iraq to counterbalance a resurgent Iran. "He's an SOB, but at least he's our SOB."--was the thinking.

But the reality is--he's an SOB.

Total waste of money and time. Whenever you put a dollar into an Islamist's pocket, he looks around to see what he can blow up.

Iraq was a worthy and noble effort, and a waste of time. We'll know better next time--given the choice between modernism and barbarism, they'll take door number two, every time. If you lead an Islamic horse to water, he would just put poison in to kill everyone else. It's a shame, but there ya go. And the idea that a single one of my tax dollars went to improving the life of someone like Tosser is all I need.

Islamist's pocket, he looks around to see what he can blow up.


But Saddam wasn't an Islamist! LOL



We'll know better next time



No, you won't. You are too dumb.



my tax dollars went to improving the life of someone like Tosser



Pakistan isn't part of your wet dreams Boyo. We aren't in the Middle East.

Stick to your own patch of dirt. LOL

$150,000,000 a month in US aid to Pakistan.

Wow.

Well, you'll be surprised to hear that in the past couple of years I've come around to your point of view on a couple of things. I'm completely confident that every dollar we spend in the Middle East in hopes they will somehow magically reform themselves--as Nazi Germany and Militarist Japan did, for example--is a fool's errand. What do you do, when hundreds of millions of people prefer tribalism to a democratic republic? When hundreds of millions of people prefer to live in the ninth century, as opposed to the twenty first?

Nah. We're just throwing good money after bad. Despite trillions of dollars worth of oil revenues, I can't think of a single company in the Islamic world that makes, say, pharmaceuticals. Or chemicals. Or agricultural equipment, jet planes, automobiles, computers. Even the stuff they need to get the oil out of the ground comes from here--how hard is it to make a drill bit? That part of the world invented mathematics, accounting, and banking--yet now relies on New York, London, Singapore and Frankfurt for their capital markets.

So I hear you. What fellowship hath light, with darkness?--etc.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-05-12 11:23 AM




I TOLD YOU SO


Truth hurts donut.


now lets start considering

1. trickle down economics
2. compassionate conservatism.
3. Global warming
4. Privitization.
5. "free market" capitalism
etc
etc
etc

$150,000,000 a month in US aid to Pakistan.



It was actually 1 billion dollars a month.

All payment for the services we rendered.. for example the use of 3 airbases which are still needed for logistical support. We made a bill and you paid some of it.

There is still a whole bunch of money you cheapskates owe us. You can call it "aid" to make yourself feel puffed up... but that is our money, not yours.

Services rendered? The only reason you monkeys get any money at all is because China sold you a nuke.

The only reason you monkeys get any money at all is because China sold you a nuke.



So you are so terrified of our nukes, you are giving us free money? hahahahahahahahahahaa

Clowns.

Let me ask you this... are you getting your money's worth? No? LOL

Figure this out on your own. In time, you will get it.

About Iraq and the Kurds....

Aren't the Kurds a once-nomadic people who tried military action in three or four different countries to carve out a "Kurdistan"?

I mean.. didn't they seriously try to take parts of Iraq by force from Saddam Hussein? Whenever people say "Saddam gassed his own people!" I always wondered how, exactly, wiping out an invading force is to be considered "gassing his own people." I mean... is a country not allowed to defend itself from invaders that have entered it's soil or something?

I'm not being a smartass. I've looked it up over and over and can't find any justification for calling Saddam evil because of that one. What's the logic behind that?

Let me ask you this... are you getting your money's worth? No? LOL

Figure this out on your own. In time, you will get it.

Posted by Tosser



yes, because we live in the 21st century and in general pakistanis live in the 10th. welcome to reality.

you have been bought and sold, yet are too ignorant to see it.

Amazing how America turned Iraq... a nice easy going place which was totally secular... into what it is today.

America is sick and Christian-Fundo. They spread their cancer to whatever they touch turning peaceful places into violent cesspools.

Posted by Tosser



sucks to be you, but in reality your part of the world has either been in the stone ages when the west bought and sold you or you were fighting your own battle for scraps.

This has nothing to do with Islam (even though the father used that as an excuse).

It has everything to do with collaborating with the enemy (British soldier in this case).

These people (Brits and Americans) are in uniform in your country and they are there to kill you... and your kid is in love with one of them???

Of course they killed the little slut.

I have white relatives (Americans and British). But then Pakistan is not at war. So obviously Islam was not a problem in our case.

Posted by Tosser at


Actually you are wrong.

'I don't have a daughter now, and I prefer to say that I never had one. That girl humiliated me in front of my family and friends. Speaking with a foreign solider, she lost what is the most precious thing for any woman. 'People from western countries might be shocked, but our girls are not like their daughters that can sleep with any man they want and sometimes even get pregnant without marrying. Our girls should respect their religion, their family and their bodies.


this has everything to do with religon. This fuck heads actions based on his interpretations of what his religon tells him. It is supported by those in his community who do not condemn or punish his actions and it is aided and abetted by the likes of you who deflect from the truth of the situation.

Besides, Karachi is safe and quiet right now that we are talking with the bad-guys about a possible peace-deal.

If anything happens in Karachi, I hear about it instantly.

Posted by Tosser



also known as surrendering to the enemies of humanity.

Oh, I never said he wasn't evil. He was (but rape room? shredders? LOL).

I am saying You are a far greater evil.


Posted by Tosser



hey, fuck you. we may make mistakes, our leaders may do the wrong thing but on balance we as a nation do far more good than evil.

in general pakistanis live in the 10th



You said Arabs lived in the 9th century. And we live in the 10th? You in 21st?

Do you still watch Sesame Street???



too ignorant to see it.


Spoken by someone who is too ignorant to recognize his own country on a map and who didn't know who supplied gas weapons to Saddam and who can't tell the difference between Eye-ran and Eye-raq. LOL



sucks to be you


No.. sucks to be YOU.



in reality your part of the world



Sorry? What part of the world would that be? Mid East??? LOL

in general pakistanis live in the 10th

You said Arabs lived in the 9th century. And we live in the 10th? You in 21st?

TH:did I say that? sorry but the reality is Pakistan poor, country living in medieval times, tribal law etc. US living in 21st century (although imperfectly)

Do you still watch Sesame Street???

TH: nope too busy


too ignorant to see it.

Spoken by someone who is too ignorant to recognize his own country on a map and who didn't know who supplied gas weapons to Saddam and who can't tell the difference between Eye-ran and Eye-raq. LOL

TH: that was not me, that was something else. We sold Iraq weapons and Iran for that matter weapons to keep them killing each other whilst we exploited our relations with Saudi arabia etc. While you lived in the dark ages. Now that OBL has snuck into the deepest crevices of your land we are using you, exploiting you, keeping you unbalanced and ignorant, divided and conquered whilst we continue to exploit Iran, Iraq, SA, Afghan and your sorry asses.


sucks to be you


No.. sucks to be YOU.

TH: doubtful, My 4000SF house, my months of vacation, my summer house, my pool, my mid 6 figure income, my children in private schools with the best of everything, the security of living in the US, does not equal suck, living in a stone age country equals suck

Rape victim Zafran Bibi was sentenced to death by stoning by a session court in Kohat under Hudood Laws for alleged adultery.


And she was freed.

No woman in Pakistan has ever been executed by the State.

In the US, however, women how many women have been victims of capital punishment???

BTW. the hudood laws are no longer part of the legal system.

Ignorant American.

we may make mistakes


I think you people do it on purpose.



we as a nation do far more good than evil.



There was another idiot who claimed exactly the same thing.

And I asked him... as I ask you now.... name the last 10 good things the USA did after 9-11?

Well, big shot?

LOL

Pakistani scientist A. Q. Khan was selling not only technology for enriching nuclear fuel and blueprints for nuclear weapons, but also some of the darkest of the bomb makers' arts: the hard-to-master engineering secrets needed to fabricate nuclear warheads.



Let me explain this to an idiot like yourself.

Pakistan never signed the NPT (look it up please).

THAT gives us the RIGHT to sell to WHOEVER WE WANT.

No international laws were broken.

Case closed.

"Evidence suggests that somewhere between 70 and 90% of Pakistani women are victims of domestic violence."




In the US a woman is a victim of rape every 10-20 seconds. In Pakistan, every 2 hours (and that too is doubtful).

Yep.

And fuck you too. LOL

We sold Iraq weapons and Iran for that matter weapons to keep them killing each other whilst we exploited our relations with Saudi arabia



Oh... forgive me... you people are "deep thinkers"???

hahahahahahahaha

the security of living in the US

Oh... twin towers going up in smoke happened... where?

Colored alerts and not taking liquids on flights makes you feel secure?

Doesn't take much to satisfy you, does it? LOL.

In the US a woman is a victim of rape every 10-20 seconds. In Pakistan, every 2 hours (and that too is doubtful).

Yep.

And fuck you too. LOL



Posted by Tosser



that is because in pakistan there is no such thing as rape the woman entices the man. you savage.

we are using you, exploiting you, keeping you unbalanced and ignorant, divided and conquered whilst we continue to exploit Iran, Iraq, SA, Afghan and your sorry asses.



Yeah yeah... sure.

If you ask Your Chimp, he will give you a different version.

Let me explain this to an idiot like yourself.

Pakistan never signed the NPT (look it up please).

THAT gives us the RIGHT to sell to WHOEVER WE WANT.

No international laws were broken.

Case closed.

Posted by Tosser


If he didnt break a law, how come he had to be pardoned by musharaff?

Let me explain this to an idiot like yourself.

Pakistan never signed the NPT (look it up please).

THAT gives us the RIGHT to sell to WHOEVER WE WANT.

No international laws were broken.

Case closed.

Posted by Tosser


If he didnt break a law, how come he had to be pardoned by musharaff?

Oh... forgive me... you people are "deep thinkers"???

hahahahahahahaha

Posted by Tosser



nope just the baddest ass on the block, the one's with the modern understanding of the world,not the cave dwelling dark ages thinkers that dwell in many of your istans

according to several articles this woman was to be executed in August 2001,


Her capital punishment was overturned.


however they do say women were killed 16 years prior so you are wrong


His english is stilted.

No woman has been executed by the State.

Go find some other webpage that sez they ever were. Lets have a few names. LOL



Of course it only took you till 2007 to outlaw such a barbaric construct. Seems you have a long way to come as a society.


These laws came about in the 80s and went away after the man who created them, died.

He was a person who was regarded as a friend of the US. So we come back to my earlier statement.... whatever the US touches, gets sick. You people are like cancer.

Everywhere you reach, the Islamists gain power. You... somehow... are connected to them.

If he didnt break a law, how come he had to be pardoned by musharaff?



If he had really broken any law in the nuke department, he would be dead without a trial.

The pardon was for the sake of appearance.

He never went to jail.

ok so your point is that the US is responsible for Pakistan (the military dictatorship) making laws that basically make women third class citizens.

accept responsibility for yourself. that is a basic factor in being an adult.

whaaaa whaaa the US made us islamists.... whaaaaa

just the baddest ass on the block, the one's with the modern understanding of the world,



Ooooooo... is that why your "bad ass" soldiers are getting their "asses" handed to them in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Yep... yer a bad ass... right. LOL

Modern understanding? Where is the chapter in your book that starts with "never put a Chimp in the White House"?

If he had really broken any law in the nuke department, he would be dead without a trial.

The pardon was for the sake of appearance.

He never went to jail.

Posted by Tosser at



no Khan is seen as an outspoken nationalist for his belief that the West is inherently hostile to Islam.


see Pakistan did the cowardly thing, he SHOULD have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,but he wasnt. he was pardoned because Mushie is afraid of the islamists. bush didnt push cause he is using Pakistan, but that does not get around the point that Pakistan supplied N Korea, Libya, etc with nuclear technology.

Tosser,


is that why your "bad ass" soldiers are getting their "asses" handed to them in Iraq and Afghanistan?

What an utterly ignorant statement.

First and foremost, US military casualty rates in these 2 wars is an infantessimal fraction of what they were in other wars.

Secondly, the US military is fighting these wars with incredible restraint, in order to minimize collateral damage. This is what happens when we go to war against a government in lieu of a country.

A better barometer would be GWI. Iraq had an impressive military within the ME and got absolutely crushed by the alliance forces, which was predominantly the US military.


Your country's best military weapons are hand-me-downs from the US.

Modern understanding? Where is the chapter in your book that starts with "never put a Chimp in the White House"?

Posted by Tosser


Well I cant argue with that one.

"...Muslims have Bibles? Posted by Vernon"

Yes, Muslims Koran is a Bible. The word Bible means 'Holy Book' The Koran is a holy book. So is the torah.

This is why I said 'Bibles.' I wasn't refereing to just Christian's plagerised text, I meant ALL HOLY BOOKS.

But as usual, subtly is lost on you and the rest of Christianity...which is why if you think I meant just the christian Bible...fine. It's still a filthy ragged piece of shit setting the tone for generations of ignorant camel-fuckers to come; who think the world is 6000 years old and a guy with a pitch-fork is waiting in the wings to destroy civilization. BTW - how is that Rapture Thing going?

FOR ZED:

Of course I am a role model or (lol) Paradigm as you put it. Anyone who wants to live their life as I do will find it remarkably free of delusion and sheepleness.

This is good, actually. Tosser enjoys his life, and we enjoy ours. And ne'er the 'twain shall meet, as they say.

We should occupy ourselves with building nuclear power plants coast-to-coast, putting our national transportation system onto the electrical grid, and informing the Islamic world that beginning in say, 2015 or thereabouts, they can pound sand. God knows they've got plenty of that.

they can pound sand and the pelican.

And I asked him... as I ask you now.... name the last 10 good things the USA did after 9-11?



1. Got syria out of Lebanon
2. Overturned the taliban
3. 250,000 Africans are on anti-viral drugs
4. Libya has no WMD
5. Contributed over half the Tsunami relief funds
6. Forces aid on Myanmar after Cyclone
7. Expansion of NATO
8. Generously has given Iraq hundreds of billions of dollars in reconstruction aid.
9. Continue to engage and contain NK preventing war and moving towards removal of their Nuclear weapons.
10. Captured and or killed many of the players involved in 9/11 including khalid sheik mohammed

now you name 10 things that the pakistanis have done

there is a power fight here between you guys and tosser.

just want to point out that there is no law in pakistan that makes woman a 3rd class citizen

pakistan has had a woman prime minister


culturally woman are treated like 3rd class citizens not governmentally and nothing religious law wise is being ignored by the pakistani government.


again, the treatment of woman as 3rd class is an education and cultural problem that the government of pakistan in occordance with the religious authority is trying to fight.

now there are fringe imams that are also fighting against this, but they are losing.



also about what this thread is about... this is an awful truth about iraqi culture.

and this also needs laws put in place to prosecute and lay down the law against the perpetrators of such heinous crimes. You'll find that the educated islamic leaders will completely agree and show you how the religous law does not violate the state law and in fact reinforces it.

I've outsourced my end of the discussion today to Truthhurts.

that will be $5,000

now you name 10 things that the pakistanis have done


Hey, I never claimed us Pakistanis were angels. LOL.

Well done, Truth, on the good things list. I really didn't expect you to come up with it.

The Western cultural imperialists strike again, demeaning other cultures. The other cultures view you folks with the same incredulity and disdain, and look upon your perspectives as misbegotten.

There's no right nor wrong, merely the way a society functions. To an outsider it may appear to be outlandish, but to someone operating within the framework of a society, the actions are proper.

Get over your pretense of cultural superiority.

The question is, "Does it work for them?" The question is not, "Does it please my sensibilities as an outsider?"

When in Rome, do as the Romans. And allow other people to act and operate as they do with the values and under the rules they establish pursuant thereto.

Of course, the West has gone overboard in some instances, and has allowed the heathen to bring their rules to Western lands instead of demanding when in the West adopt and live by our rules. Sharia courts have made inroads in the West as some Western governments allow them to resolve disputes.

This fellow is probably offended to the core by many of our ways, including deportment and dress, and even dietary laws that do not follow halal, but allow us to eat pork, and to even drink alcoholic beverages.

Respect the ways of others, which have sustained their societies. Require the others to respect our ways and our laws when they reside among us.

Your country's best military weapons are hand-me-downs from the US.


Not any more.

Johnson-
You left out the part where we invade and occupy people who don't understand that the oil is ours by virtue of the fact that we are morally and ethically superior, geography be damned.

Captured and or killed many of the players involved in 9/11 including khalid sheik mohammed



Err... We did most of that, Boss.

I remember the capture of KSM quite well... it was splashed all over the news.

It wuz us. Not you.

So point-no.10 belongs to us... that is one good thing we done.

There's no right nor wrong, merely the way a society functions.


it is wrong for a father to kill his child for befriending someone of the opposite sex who happens to be of a different culture.

It wuz us. Not you.


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Since you are so bloody interested in Pakistan, you will like a post I have just decided to do.

It is about an American who came to Pakistan and wondered about and made a movie.

And nobody murderized him! Imagine that.

Wait for it. I look forward to your thoughts on that topic (after I post it).

a different culture.


A boy from a differen