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The upshot of all of this is that talk of 2025 delegates being the number needed for the nomination is incorrect. Both sides are now agreeing that FL and MI will be seated prior to the convention.

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It's pretty clear why Clinton is staying in the race: delegates. And it's also clear now that Florida and Michigan will have delegates that count. Even Obama is now saying that Florida's delegates will be seated prior to the convention:

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2209 MILF's!!!!

oh MI FL, Michigan and Florida, nevermind, thought we had an interesting article for a second.

Then why the hell did she reject the Michigan delegate plan? Typical Hillary, talking out of both sides of her ass.


Ya'll try not to feel to stupid for ridiculing her talk of 2209 the other day. Well, try anyway.

This WOULD be a more popular thread if it were about MILFs. Or, in Mr KKK Rogers case, BILFs.

From your own article Corky:

"Todd's right, that there's no reason for Clinton to believe that the SD's would then flock to her, even in the best case scenario that she closes with 3, or even 4, victories and a lead in the popular vote. What's more likely, at that point, after having gained as many pledged delegates as possible, is for Clinton to stand down and wait. At some point soon thereafter, enough SD's are likely going to give Obama a majority of whatever the final number winds up being."

"Despite the brave face McAuliffe and other Clinton surrogates and campaign officials are projecting in public, however, Lawrence O'Donnell says the campaign officials he's spoken to are privately resigned to the conclusion that it will be Hillary Clinton conceding the nomination to Barack Obama in June, not the other way around. He says it will all be over by June 15."



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Does that bullet in your foot hurt?


You really are pathetically shallow, Lil Britney.
Ignoring an entire article but for the caveat by Official Obamite High Priest O'Donnell.

I didn't ignore the entire article Corkypoos, I READ the entire article and clicked on the links therein. You obviously didn't you just jumped on the headline as a way to right your obviously sinking ship. Better to be "shallow" than under water.

"Irrelevant, unless he has 2024
Posted by Corky at 2008-04-26 10:41 PM"

"It'll be over when someone reaches 2209.
Posted by Corky at 2008-05-07 11:07 AM "

Keep tuned to Clinton Campaign Central for more shape-shifting.

Fair-Weather Wolverine:
Hillary Clinton wants to seat Michigan and Florida delegates.
She sang a different tune last year


It was a different story in October. Back then, Clinton was far and away the national front-runner--by some 20 points in a number of polls. With much less at stake in the matter, she told a New Hampshire public-radio audience, "It's clear, this election [Michigan is] having is not going to count for anything." Clinton was unwilling to take her name off the Michigan primary ballot, as Obama and her other significant rivals did, but like them she agreed not to campaign in Michigan or in Florida before their primaries.

On Aug. 25, when the DNC's rules panel declared Florida's primary date out of order, it agreed by a near-unanimous majority to exceed the 50 percent penalty called for under party rules. Instead, the group stripped Florida of all 210 delegates to underscore its displeasure with Florida's defiance and to discourage other states from following suit. In doing so, the DNC essentially committed itself, for fairness' sake, to strip the similarly defiant Michigan of all 156 of its delegates three months later. Clinton held tremendous potential leverage over this decision, and not only because she was then widely judged the likely nominee. Of the committee's 30 members, a near-majority of 12 were Clinton supporters. All of them--most notably strategist Harold Ickes--voted for Florida's full disenfranchisement. (The only dissenting vote was cast by a Tallahassee, Fla., city commissioner who supported Obama.)

Six days later, when the party chairs in the DNC-approved "early" primary states urged Democratic candidates to sign a "four-state pledge" promising not to campaign in any state that violated the DNC calendar, Clinton did not object. She waited, with characteristic prudence, until the other candidates had signed, then signed herself.
. . .
In October, after Obama and some of the other candidates withdrew their names from the Michigan ballot, Clinton declined to do the same. Her stated reason, however, was not to dissent from the DNC's decision to disenfranchise wronged Michigan, but rather to mend fences with Michigan voters come November. Besides, Hillary said, there was no reason to remove her name if the results weren't going to count anyway. "I personally did not think it made any difference," she said.
. . .
What a difference four months make.
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Just when you think it can't get any more pathetic...

Just when you think it can't get any more pathetic...

Posted by ness_gadol

Why is it pathetic? Even Obama is now saying the delegates would be seated. That's a good thing for America, even if its not so great for an Obama candidacy.

Seems he's a better man than most of y'all.

Makes me remember what I thought I liked about him in the first place.

They're gonna split them 50/50. She'll still be a complete loser. She's responsible for the Republican take over in '94.

The Clinton's have spent 16 years putting the pieces in place for this election. They "own" the Democrat party. One guy shows up, makes a couple of pretty speeches, she panics and now wonders why shes being abandoned.

I tell ya, it's a good thing she's not a housewife. She doesn't have the guts.

Corky, will you be voting for Nader or just staying in your basement come November?

Corky, will you be voting for Nader or just staying in your basement come November?

Posted by Dumb_as_Rocks

How could somebody so supportive of a candidate as mainstream as Clinton ever swing so far to the left as to vote for Nader without stopping at Obama first?

If Obama had stolen some of Nader's platform early on (something Nader has been begging any candidate to do), he would have clinched this race a while back.


-Seems he's a better man than most of y'all.

So is she.



( How much do I owe you for that set-up, Celine? ;^)

( How much do I owe you for that set-up, Celine? ;^)

5% of your cut from the GOP.

--Seems he's a better man than most of y'all.

-So is she.


it has been said that if Hillary could give one of her testicles to BO, they'd both have two then.

( How much do I owe you for that set-up, Celine? ;^)
Posted by Corky

HRC and Corkster have had a rough couple of days here. Consider it a freebie.

Corky on the election debate NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is as pathetic nor more shallower than You Corky. You went from great to a Reprobate. Sorry but LBD has more class in Her little toe than You have in Your whole body.. Funny Dat Be,

Larry Mohr

-You went from great to a Reprobate

Yeah, just as soon as I had the audacity to not have the same opinion as the PC majority here.

Nothing else changed at all.


Except now I get lessons in class from the blog doggy joke.

Corky on the election debate NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is as pathetic nor more shallower than You Corky. You went from great to a Reprobate. Sorry but LBD has more class in Her little toe than You have in Your whole body.. Funny Dat Be,

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr

Ha Ha. Another example of substantive argument from Larry Mohr

Larry Mohr: One of the reasons great minds flock to the drudge retort every day for elevated dialogue.


Corky, will you be voting for Nader or just staying in your basement come November?

Posted by Dumb_as_Rocks at 2008-05-09 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:


Single wide trailers in Florida don't have basements.

For the record Corky has stated that he has not decided that answer yet(at least of about 2 weeks ago).

Yeah, just as soon as I had the audacity to not have the same opinion as the PC majority here.


Posted by Corky at 2008-05-09 11:49 AM

Why do you always accuse pro-Obama posters on this site as being influenced primarily by what you believe are "PC" motives?

Is it because your support for Clinton is influenced primarily by "Un-PC" motives?

Why do you always accuse pro-Obama posters on this site as being influenced primarily by what you believe are "PC" motives?

Posted by ness_gadol

maybe it has to do with the rampant charges of racism flung around here for not being bat-sh*t crazy for Obama?

maybe it has to do with the rampant charges of racism flung around here for not being bat-sh*t crazy for Obama?

"I think what Obamites are really most proud of is all the delegates awarded Obama because he is black.... proportionally black, I mean.

Posted by Corky at 2008-05-08 10:09 AM"

If it quacks like a duck...

If it quacks like a duck...

Posted by ness_gadol

Well that was a little uncomfortable.

I'm not going to defend that one.

That said, it bugs me that any support for Clinton at this stage is chalked up to racism. As if there isn't a single non-racist reason to support her candidacy.


How many times a day do you have to change those pants, Messy?

HC,

If Clinton was leading in one or more of the metrics that count toward nomination, I'd be happy to support her. She's not.

I want a Democrat to be elected POTUS. If you were to go back through most if not all of my posts since these conversations started on DR you'd see that for the most part I've expressed admiration for Hillary although I'm certain that I've made at least a few sideways swipes at her.

What bugs ME is that there are people like Corky(and you to some extent) that are saying anything, making all of the ridiculous arguments and saying that they'll take their vote and go home if Hillary is not nominated. Those are the people that are willing to allow another 4 or 8 years of what we've suffered through.

What bugs ME ....
Posted by Reagan58

I don't think that Corky will sooner stay home than vote Obama. At least I haven't heard him say that.

Me? I'm in a solidly blue state. I could vote for Satan and it wouldn't change anything (I hope).

I'm sorry you think I participate in ridiculous arguments.

My point all along has been two-fold, first that FL and MI are essential for any candidate to claim the high road to the nomination, and second, that until Obama finishes off the job, Clinton has every right to stay in the race without having to worry about Obama supporters villifying her, making her into a pariah, telling her that she is ruining the party.

Me, I'm in a deep, dark red state. I may write in Satan because it would have about the same net effect.


Clinton has every right to stay in the race without having to worry about Obama supporters villifying her, making her into a pariah, telling her that she is ruining the party.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-05-09 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:


Oh, you mean something like Hillary's answer when asked if Obama was a Mulim "Not that I'm aware of". Come on, she and Bill(whom I liked as POTUS very much)are incredibly guilty of everything that Obama's supporters have accused them of. It's just their way and has been since they became involved in elective politics.

HC,

I pressed Corky for an answer to this question for ages:

Will you vote for the Democratic nominee regardless of who it is?


After asking the question about 20 times I received this answer:

I haven't made up my mind yet, I may or I may vote for Nader. (Paraphrased)

"Oh, you mean something like Hillary's answer when asked if Obama was a Mulim "Not that I'm aware of"."

Posted by Reagan58

Why was it her responsibility to vouch for his religious affilitation? Could she have said, "No, of course not?" I guess so, but in the scheme of things, I question the need to make it an example of what's wrong with her candidacy.

"Come on, she and Bill(whom I liked as POTUS very much)are incredibly guilty of everything that Obama's supporters have accused them of. It's just their way and has been since they became involved in elective politics."

Posted by Reagan58

I don't know if I can fault them for playing politics. My issue with Obama is that he initially tried to set himself above all that but has shown to be just as self serving as the next politician.

Do I hope I'm wrong about him? Of course.

They're ALL politicians. Anyone living in the reality based world recognize that and know that none of them are going to be beyond those sorts of things. Hillary and Bill are just the worst and most mean spirited about it.

They're ALL politicians....
Posted by Reagan58

for some reason, the phrase "don't hate the player, hate the game," comes to mind.


They're ALL politicians....
Posted by Reagan58

for some reason, the phrase "don't hate the player, hate the game," comes to mind.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-05-09 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Other than the fact that I loathe that phrase I don't disagree with you. But the situation is what it is.

...I loathe that phrase ...
Posted by Reagan58

I'm with you. It hurt my fingers to type it out.

If I were a betting man I would imagine that Florida will be allocated half of their delegates, but the delegates will be apportioned by voting results. That is what the Repubs did and would seem fair.

As for MI, their legislature already came up with a compromise but Hillary has rejected it. I really don't know how MI will be resolved, especially when Hillary admitted that it wouldn't count back in November, but they will end up splitting the baby somehow.

Whatever happens Obama will still come out with more delegates and more votes, but there is still no reason to force Hillary out. If she wants to waste her money go ahead and let her.

Taxman,

Let me start by saying, Glad to see you survived tax season. We're going to dinner with friends of ours tonight for the first time since early January, she's been too busy with taxes to look out the window.

At this point even if they were to come up with some sort of solution for the MI/FL situation that both candidates could agree on, Hillary would still be behind

If she wants to waste her money go ahead and let her.

Posted by taxman

Why does it have to be characterized that way?

Can't her candidacy have any meaning other than serving as an obstacle on the way to the kingmaking of Obama?

One hour later and not a single answer to my question. I'll take that as a yes then.

... I mean no.

If you were expecting an answer from Corky HC, I think he's too busy being a troll.

Larry - I am grateful for your support, I always like to think of myself of having a little "class" it it nice to hear that someone agrees.

NO LBD tis the truth is all.

Larry Mohr

Why the Clintons can't be in the WH at all...one would think:>)


THE CRIMES OF MENA

"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched."

-- George Bush, cited in the June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter

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Much has changed in the past one year.

Last year at this time Hillary was the "inevitable" candidate for the Democratic Party.
Last year at this time Obama was a little known Senator from Illinois.

Oh yeah. And last year some of us thought Corky was intellectually honest.

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