Well, that's going to piss some people off.

Is she really trying to trash the chances for the Dems this year?

Black boy bad
White girl good
[Clinton Campaign Official Mantra #1]

I'm not a racist.
Oh, heavens, no!
But lots of folks who vote for me are.
That's why I deserve the nomination.
[Clinton Campaign Stump Speech #1-A]

Is it possible that Billary is trying to win the Dem nomination without the help of the far left? Is she leaving that to Obomba, moving to the center, taking a chunk of McCane's voters, and claiming to the supers..."Look, I'm gonna win this election for the Dems and at the same time rescue the party from Soros."

I've always hated that woman, but if she does this, she will be doing her party and the country as a whole a GREAT favor and I would consider voting for her.

We'll see....maybe I'm giving her more credit than she deserves.....

You think for all her "experience" she would have learned not to put her foot in her mouth so much.

Translation .......

"Maybe Osama got 90% of the black votes, but that's only 12% of the population and not enough to win on. We own the black voters, and they will blindly vote for whatever candidate the Democrats put forward. I have a message for the superdelegates: a vote for Osama is a vote for John McCain."

Not this one.

Probably... still doesn't mean you overturn the entire process to just give it to her. Try again in 2012 toots...

Easy Vern, your panic is showing.

"There's a pattern emerging here."

Well, Hillary, you're right on the money. You, your husband, and your surrogates have been playing the race card all along. Until, now as your campaign gives off its death rattle, it's the only card you have left to play. And to your discredit, you're going to use it. Shame on you.

I really hope Chelsea marries a black guy named LeShawn Demetrius Covington.

I really hope Chelsea marries a black guy named LeShawn Demetrius Covington.

Posted by ness_gadol at 2008-05-08 09:48 AM | Reply


Living vicariously through Chelsea comes off as pathetic Ness.

"These are the people you have to win, if you're a Democrat, in sufficient numbers to actually win the election. Everybody knows that."


"You can't handle the truth!" - Jack

That's cute, Rcade, the Klan pic and all. Must be inspiring to your bloggers, the Ultra PC-ism at the Ol' DR, ie; anyone who mentions race around Obama is a racist.

by the by, you never answered my question about how you could support a candidate who failed to endorse a DNC approved re-vote in FL, thereby making sure that your vote doesn't count?

Sacrifice to the Holy Obama?

Obama's winning coalition:

www.hiphopkinima.com

Posted by cookfish


Wow. Either you've got a fetish for ripped black men, or you're really scared of black people in general.

Corky,
I don't worship Obama. In fact I disagree with him on plenty of fronts. For example, I don't like basketball. I think smoking is icky. I also am not a fan of black women, or women in general.
Sincerely,
Rcade

Cook's post, and 101's are an obvious and baited response to Rcade's nasty little gem.

America may have to confront our racism and decide whether we want four more years of Bush or move forward with a black man. If we allow our racist tendencies to dictate who becomes the Democratic nominee then we deserve to lose the election. I know that after this comment of Hillary's I am one white person who will NEVER vote for her. Yes...I would allow McBush to become president rather than elect a white woman who proclaims her color to be her qualification for nomination.

Easy Vern, your panic is showing.

Posted by ddenton at 2008-05-08 09:44 AM | Reply

Maybe you can help me, and tell me just what I'm panicked about?

I don't like any of the candidates, and expect to have moved out of the U.S. before the election. Besides, politics is a spectator sport to me, as it channels all the worst instincts into a few loudmouths.

Denton, it sounds more like your panic is showing. Getting a little giddy are we over Osama? Afraid the party won't last til November?

White people = KKK = funny

Black people = thugs = racist

Don't you get it?

--Doc Coc Bloc

Getting a little giddy are we over Osama?

Posted by vernon


If I'm giddy over anything, it's that we might have a president who won't fuck this country up any further. Maybe even undo some of the damage...

Either you've got a fetish for ripped black men

Why are YOU so obsessed on "ripped" black men"? Your words, which are creepy at best.

Living vicariously through Chelsea comes off as pathetic Ness.

Yikes.

Danni,

Your assertions are racist, in addition to being erroneous..

I don't worship Obama. In fact I disagree with him on plenty of fronts. For example, I don't like basketball. I think smoking is icky. I also am not a fan of black women, or women in general.
Sincerely,
Rcade

Posted by 101Chairborne


What about killing a few 40's on the porch?

If we allow our racist tendencies to dictate who becomes the Democratic nominee then we deserve to lose the election.

Posted by danni at 2008-05-08 09:58 AM | Reply

This is exactly what the Democrats are doing: choosing a candidate because he's black and gives a nice speech.

Why are YOU so obsessed on "ripped" black men"? Your words, which are creepy at best.

Posted by cookfish


Well cooky, I didn't post a pic of half naked black men, now did I? And in the parlance of the times, any person with above average muscle mass is considered "ripped".

Obama: Muslims and Terrorists Like me better

Obama: Muslims and Terrorists Like me better

No less true than:

Clinton: Whites Like me better

Now they're "half naked" AND "ripped"? It's ok to admit your obsession instead of projecting it. The uberlibs here will understand..........

Ness,


The only black guy I can see at a Clinton rally is the secret service guy.

Historically, blacks vote Democratic about 90% of the time.

In the primary, blacks have been for Obama about 92% of the time - over Clinton, another Dem.

In the scenario of Hil vs Obama, Hillary has fared much better with every other demographic group.

Essentially, Obama has bested her in a demographic that historically votes Democratic regardless of the nominee.

Do you see where I am going with this?


IMO, Clinton is more electable than Obama in the general.

Last gasp of a dying campaign.

This is a V.P. job grab and NOTHING else.

Offer her the veep spot already and move on to fixing the problems 8 years of Republican mismanagement have produced.

Play the RACE CARD.
me me me. Destroy the Party. No Big Deal.

I think what Obamites are really most proud of is all the delegates awarded Obama because he is black.... proportionally black, I mean.

From the Pro-Hillary Ben Smith at Politico:

Now, the press has talked about the race in these terms constantly, so I won't feign shock. But it's a bit strange to hear it so bluntly from the candidate's mouth, and probably not a great way to endear herself to African-American voter.

And it's also noteworthy that the blunt talk on appealing to whites surfaces the day after the last round of primaries in which there's a substantial number of black voters.

I think Hillary may be a little tired and/or desperate.

Now they're "half naked" AND "ripped"? It's ok to admit your obsession instead of projecting it. The uberlibs here will understand..........

Posted by cookfish


Hate to break it to you, but I don't have a problem calling things for what they are. Someone without a shirt is indeed "half naked". Someone who has biceps bigger than your head is "ripped", and someone who posts pictures of "half naked" and "ripped" black men is either fomenting racism or is ashamed to admit he's attracted to them.

You can only run from the truth for so long cookie...

Your fetish for black men isn't something to be ashamed of...

But Rcade must be proud too, playing that KKK race card pic was a real winner.

Well Corkster, your candidate made the point that she deserves to stay in the race because whites will vote for her.

Stop being such an ass tool.

Why ruin the Hillary/Obamarama.
It's been fun so far to watch. Let the games continue.

Play the RACE CARD.
me me me. Destroy the Party. No Big Deal.

Posted by nutcase


Can't blame that on the dispicable Republicans now can we?

If blue-collar Dems, most of which happen to be white, won't vote for Obama, then they are all KKK racists and should be shot..... is that about it, tool?

Is what Hillary said true or not?

Why does blunt talk upset the sensibilities of the left wing purse swingers?

Hillary has fared much better with every other demographic group.


Source? I ask because I seriously doubt she has the youth vote, and I can't seem to find a site that breaks down voting results by demographic.

If blue-collar Dems, most of which happen to be white, won't vote for Obama, then they are all KKK racists and should be shot..... is that about it, tool?

Posted by Corky


No, but candidates who prey on the prejudices of their respective demographic to get elected don't deserve the presidency. Have you heard Obama say he should be president because a black people will vote for him? I think not.

"...proportionally black, I mean."
Posted by Corky

Let's not go down that road, corkster.


Look, acknowledging the fact that voters make choices based on race is not being racist.

The fact that she happens to be of a race more people will vote for does not make her a racist.

Does that make the country racist (Generally)? Probably. But until there is a racism exclusion for voting, that's what we have to live with.

But Hillary is still going to be scapegoated when the Dem's lose in November.

Hillary. The New Nader. Pariah.

Ness,


I ask because I seriously doubt she has the youth vote,

Fair point.

She leads in every other ethnic group.

Obama DOES have a lead among potential young voters. However, that is a demographic that historically doesn't show up at the polls during election time.

Tying your hopes to the 'youth' paving the way to a "Barry the Fairy" presidency is a losing proposition IMO.

"The only black guy I can see at a Clinton rally is the secret service guy."

Posted by ness_gadol

That couldn't be because all the blacks have to "help a brutha out," could it?

That's cute, Rcade, the Klan pic and all. Must be inspiring to your bloggers, the Ultra PC-ism at the Ol' DR, ie; anyone who mentions race around Obama is a racist.

Hillary Clinton's making an explicitly racial justification for her campaign. The argument that Democrats should nominate the candidate who does best with [insert race here] is not only politically disastrous for the party, it's offensive.

Barack Obama and his surrogates could have argued at any time that his candidacy is more viable because he's supported by black voters, historically one of the most solidly Democratic blocs. If he did so, he'd be making his campaign about race, and he's shown thus far the wisdom to avoid that.

The fact that Clinton lacks this wisdom, and is playing the race card in a moment of desperation in the hopes she can divide and conquer, strikes me as a pretty strong reason she doesn't deserve the nomination.

"Have you heard Obama say he should be president because a black people will vote for him? I think not."

Posted by ddenton

What exactly has it meant then, when they say if Hillary wins the nomination it will destroy the party?

Every four years Repubes slap Dems around by winning blue-collar workers who they have gotten to vote against their own self-interest because of culture war issues.

Dems have to win a certain amount of these Reagan Dems, as Bubba did, to get into the White House.

Clinton can, Obama has yet to prove the same.

Of course, anyone who mentions this fact is a KKK racist.

"If blue-collar Dems, most of which happen to be white, won't vote for Obama, then they are all KKK racists and should be shot..... is that about it, tool?"

They probably arent' members of the KKK and I don't think they should be shot. However, considering the slight differences between Obama's positions and Clinton's racism would be the only logical reason that they would vote for Hillary if nominated but not Obama. Also, I don't blame Black Americans for saying that they would stay home if Hillary somehow manages to steal the nomination which, fortunately, she will not be able to do. Hillary needs to bow out and get behind the nominee. If Bill wants to continue being admired by Democrats he needs to convince his wife that it's time to recognize the obvious truth.

"Every four years Repubes slap Dems around by winning blue-collar workers who they have gotten to vote against their own self-interest because of culture war issues."

Perhaps we, as a nation, need to suffer until we, as a nation, disregard race when deciding who to vote for. If those folks want to vote against their own self-interest then....oh well.

"...Barack Obama and his surrogates could have argued at any time that his candidacy is more viable because he's supported by black voters...."

Posted by rcade

Actually, keeping that implicit seems to have been the goal the whole campaign. Plus, he nor his surrogates have to say anything when it's being implied all the time further down the food chain.

I've never said if she gets the nom that it'll destroy the party. I dislike Hillary as much as you can, based purely on her bahavior during this campaign. Exploiting the Wright issue, refusing to say that Obama's not a muslim, and now overtly making her candidacy about race. I do not however think it will destroy the party.

I will however say that if she does get the nom, and even further the presidency, that it will be marred by her using the race card to get votes, just as the specter of a stolen election has marred Bush's first and second terms. That in and of itself is not good for this country, let alone any political party.

"Perhaps we, as a nation, need to suffer"
--DANNI

Dem platform '08.

and probably not a great way to endear herself to African-American voter.


The Black voter has backed Obama almost 100%. There is no reason anymore to try to endear herself to Black voters.

When 94%+/- of a population backs your opponent, you write off that population, because there is no point in wasting time and money on them.

Folks,

Racism is not evil. It is merely ignorance, provided you don't ACT on it, which is the evil part. It is evolutionary that humans are afraid of that which is not familiar to them. As long as you don't act on it, racism is merely a form of ignorance.

I tell you for certain, the most racist people I know are the black high school kids I teach. They aren't bad people...it's just that I'm the only white guy they talk to, so for a while, they were uncomfortable....They've learned differently, and I fit right in now, because they see that I'm more like them than I am not like them. Now, they really don't act any differently around me than they do their friends. I'm not scary. They're familiar with me as a PERSON, and my skin color is no longer relevant. This is how people of all colors generally behave when they become personally FAMILIAR with people of other "races".

I also know white racist people, who don't sound like racist people. They appear to be voting for Obomba, though, as some way to "solve the race problem". They are intensely aware he is black, and they think that somehow electing him will prove that they aren't racist. Yes they are, not because they're bad people, but because they don't know anything about black people, and aren't comfortable around them...somehow they think that some other person can solve their own racism problem.

The only people who aren't racist are ones who DON'T NOTICE RACE. The whole idea of "race" is an out-dated notion that presupposes a significant biological difference between races. Biologically, there is much more genetic diversity within "races" than their is across races. Biologically, races don't exist....

Our laws should not even mention race or color. They are fictions.

So, why is it that for you Obombites, race seems to be such a big deal? All those blacks voting for him: what do your really think he has in common with most of them, given his educational background? Me thinks, y'all protest too much!

when it's being implied all the time further down the food chain.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine


That's a poor assertion at best. He hasn't said it's about race, but he's "implying" it? If you're also going to assert that he's not doing it but his surrogates are, which makes the same point, then you should also hold Clinton responsible for everything her surrogates say, which I'm sure you're unwilling to do.

-explicitly racial justification for her campaign

Unadulterated bullshit.

Let's blame blue-collar workers because 80 percent of them happen to be white. Oh wait, 80 something percent of the country is white.

90 + percent of blacks can vote for Obama and that isn't racist, but if 70 percent of blue-collar voters who happen to be white vote for Clinton, and she has the audacity to mention that fact, then they are all KKK racists.

Double bullshit.


You still aren't going to answer my question are you?

oregon is 90% white yet obama has a 12 point lead here.... i guess nobody told us we need to vote based on race

put a fork in hillary...she's done

Perhaps we, as a nation, need to suffer"
--DANNI

Dem platform '08.

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

Funny as hell!

Gag Hillary somebody, please.

Bill?

"I've never said..."
Posted by ddenton

Okay, but your compatriots do.

"just as the specter of a stolen election has marred Bush's first and second terms."
Posted by ddenton

marred his presidency to whom? People he already didn't give a crap about? I don't know if that's the best analogy, but I get your idea.

It's going to be ugly for any democrat in the WH and the best thing either has to say about themselves is that at least they're not th GOP.

-we, as a nation, disregard race when deciding who to vote for

Danni, be sure and mention that to 90 percent of black voters.

From the article:

However, Sabato said her primary support doesn't prove she's more electable. Either Democrat will get "the vast majority" of the other's primary election votes in a general election, he said.

oregon is 90% white yet obama has a 12 point lead here

This Just In:

Obama: Queers like me better

Obama: Queers like me better

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


looks like obama has robs vote

The problem that I have with Hillary's remarks is she makes it seem like the white vote is more important.

"Danni, be sure and mention that to 90 percent of black voters."

Oh, you mean the black voters who have loyally supported Democrats for decades INCLUDING Bill Clinton and who now will deeply resent manipulations to prevent one of their own from being nominated who has the lead in delegates.
It isn't as if the black voters are demanding that some black person be awarded the nomination, they are demanding that the Democratic Party obey its own rules and recognize the FACT that Obama is leading and will be the nominee. That isn't racism, it is simply demanding FAIRNESS!

Another Issue Is Obama Brings in More Campaign Money !

Obama Had 44 Million On Hand While Hillary Was In The Big Red Hole For 11.4 Million !

He Had 4 Times As Much Money Coming In From Supporters.

Money Talks And Bullshit Walks

-Sarge

looks like obama has robs vote

Posted by 503jc69

Good one... the "No you are!" retort... clever as always.

"... which I'm sure you're unwilling to do."
Posted by ddenton

Incorrect. What I've said from the beginning is that neither of them seem to have the leadership necessary to keep their own troops in line.

They can't stay on message because:
A. There really isn't any message, or
B. I can't come up with a B....

BTW it is absolutely insulting to black voters who have supported WHITE DEMOCRATS to now pretend they are racist for supporting Obama. If the Democratic Party doesn't nominate Obama then black voters have no choice but to look for a party that respects them.

Olbermann Slams Clinton Camp: Timeline Of Moving Goalposts

www.huffingtonpost.com

-Sarge

Posted by Sarge


Awesome...

Danni, be sure and mention that to 90 percent of black voters.

Those same black voters who were supporting Hillary Clinton up until the South Carolina fiasco? I think it is funny that before the race really started people thought it was crazy that Obama wasn't getting the African-American vote and that group was still backing Hillary. Now that Obama has won over that demographic they are only voting for him because he is black.

If this election becomes an election based on race then republicans will win. Hillary knows this. The fact that she is acting this way shows she has no regard for the Dem party.

Finally, when Obama names a white, populist male as his Veep, this whole thing will be over.

RCADE,

Hillary Clinton's winning coalition:


LOL! For shame, for shame!!!!


I see corky in the back left corner.

Also, from the Time article:

The Indiana numbers also undercut Clinton's implicit argument that the white working-class voters who support her over Obama would not vote for him over McCain in November. From Ohio to Pennsylvania to Indiana, Obama has either narrowed or eliminated Clinton's lead among those with no college education (65% of all Indiana voters), Catholics, white women, regular church-attendees, those in union households and those making less than $50,000. And he has even inched his way up the age ladder, drawing even with her among voters between the ages of 45 and 59. In fact, if it weren't for voters over the age of 65 -- who made up 14% of the Democratic electorate in Indiana and who supported Clinton 69 to 31 over Obama -- the Senator from Illinois would have cleaned up in the state.

He Had 4 Times As Much Money Coming In From Supporters.

Money Talks And Bullshit Walks

-Sarge

If my brother was running for office I'd prolly give him more money than I would if some otherwise identical candidate were running.

What's your point again about money and bullshit?

TAXMAN the same thing could also be said about young white voters. I also became an Obama supporter after supporting Clinton before SC, am I then a racist???? What Clinton supporters seem to want to pretend is that Obama doesn't have a quality of leadership which we feel Hillary simply does not have. They also like to pretend that the Clinton's support for NAFTA, her vote for the Iraq war, her vote to allow the Iranian REpublican Guard to be labelled a terrorist organization, etc. should be disregarded. Sorry, a Senator's VOTING RECORD is a legitimate, in fact the most legitimate, way of evaluating that person for higher office. Hillary fails in that evaluation. BTW, Bill Clinton also fails. Bill Clinton was almost a Republican, we don't want Bush-lite....the country wants real CHANGE....LIBERAL CHANGE....OBAMA CHANGE!

The problem that I have with Hillary's remarks is she makes it seem like the white vote is more important.

Posted by Pirate


speaking in just terms of its size and percentage of its demographic who vote, isn't it?

-The problem that I have with Hillary's remarks is she makes it seem like the white vote is more important.

Reagan Dems have cost the party elections for the past 20+ years.


-I see corky in the back left corner.

How predictable was that, Rogers? We only had to wait for the lowest of the moral lepers to come along.

Taxman,

You've discounted the possibility that Billary could do well in the general election WITHOUT pandering to black voters, and perhaps because she is not seen to be doing so. Perhaps she'd do better with the middle of the political spectrum, and would therefore pick up more votes than she lost by pissing off some racist black people.

I don't know her, but this seems to be the logic behind her decision, if she has any.

Now that Obama has won over that demographic they are only voting for him because he is black.

Taxman, please just be honest and admit that's a major part of it... 94%... come on just be honest and admit that a major reason he's getting that much is because they share the same race.

What I've said from the beginning is that neither of them seem to have the leadership necessary to keep their own troops in line.

They can't stay on message because:
A. There really isn't any message, or
B. I can't come up with a B....

Posted by Hagbard_Celine


With the volume of paid workers and volunteers working for each campaign, and considering that the campaign staffers change from state to state, I don't expect either candidate to control everything that is said on their behalf.

But we're not talking about something a surrogate said. Clinton herself said she deserves to stay in the race because whites will vote for her and you need whites to win the GE.

What's wrong Corky? Bitter?

speaking in just terms of its size and percentage of its demographic who vote, isn't it?

----

In that it's the majority, yes. Ironically though is that the Democratic is never really about the majority...they usually fight for the minorities.

-Bitter

Yes, clinging to my guns and God and hating anyone not like myself..... oh, wait, that would be Obama describing blue-collar Dems..... and you think they don't vote for him because he is black???

hahahahahahahha!!!

"Have you heard Obama say he should be president because a black people will vote for him? I think not."

if Her point is that the majority of voters are white......

why would he say that he commands the lesser numbers...so of course he hadn't said it....it's not a plus.

Taxman, please just be honest and admit that's a major part of it... 94%... come on just be honest and admit that a major reason he's getting that much is because they share the same race.

This Changed Only After South Carolina When Both Bill And Hill Gaffed On MLK and Jesse Jackson.

She Had A Slight Lead Until Then.

-Sarge

When this campaign began, I liked them equally. They both fought hard and I did begin to like Obama better. I am white and I do not prefer Hillary anymore. Each day that she continues with this idiotic fight makes me like her even less. Obama won.Period! Pick up your marbles and go home now. I sincerely believe that Hillary is ruining the Democrats chances to win in November In your SEARCH engine, type in"Obama Resume". You will find a page listing all his accomplishments which make the ones complaining about his inexperience ,UNINFORMED. Be sure to scroll down on that page to see it all. I feel much better after reading it.

This Changed Only After South Carolina When Both Bill And Hill Gaffed On MLK and Jesse Jackson.

most other demographics are fairly close between the two... hell in Indidana they even split the Republicans voting... the only other number I saw close to his Black support was the elderly in Indiana going like 70% for Clinton. For Obama to take 94% of Black voters has everything to do with race... just admit it.

What exactly has it meant then, when they say if Hillary wins the nomination it will destroy the party?
Hagbard

It has been said that if Hillary GETS the nomination it would destroy the party, not WINS the nomination. Big difference.

The reference is to supers going against the pledged delegate count. And that, in my opinion, would be the end of the Democrats for at least a generation.

But at this point, it is clear that isn't going to happen.

Perhaps if Obama were to send out his Pastor to sooth over blue-collar Dems concerns about what Obama said in SF.... oh, wait..... nevermind.

As I read down the post I find it interesting that people try to attach ambiguise poll taking about race to the actual candidate that has not made race an issue and are now trying to defend the individual who has made race an issue by attaching a negative blanch to the upstanding individual.

It is constantly amazing that things Obama has nothing to do with and are clearly out of his control are continuely tried to be attached to him as if he were the cause.

Each time I see corky post my respect drops another peg. How low can you go corky? You're going down faster than you can lower your standards, but then again, so is the one you're supporting. Acorn doesn't fall far....

Obama has won in states with less than 5% of a Black Population. So Reverse that for Hillary and she would have received 88% of all votes cast.

Posted by Sarge at 2008-05-08 10:31 AM | Reply

Do you really expect Osama to win the traditional Red states? Winning a closed primary in a red state with only 37 Democrats does not translate to a majority in November. And that's what he needs to get the electoral vote.

you think they don't vote for him because he is black???

hahahahahahahha!!!



as if blacks don't own Guns or Religion

get a clue

I feel much better after reading it.

Posted by disgusted

Your user ID would suggest otherwise...

Am I supposed to be upset that you're the subject of mockery, Corky? Your support for Hillary Clinton is so relentless and unqualified that you are easy to caricature. If you don't like that, be honest at the times when you think Hillary fucked up, instead of sounding like Terry McAuliffe all the time.

Also, calling Obama "proportionally black" in the middle of a discussion over destructive Democratic identity politics is incredibly stupid. It's like you want people to call you a racist so you can play the Offended Card.

Disgusted,

Well, certainly it is within the Democratic tradition to avoid tough fights....

-How low can you go corky?

I don't think I ever said that another poster here belonged to the KKK, moral leper.

come on just be honest and admit that a major reason he's getting that much is because they share the same race.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


...and / or the fact that the Hillary campaign and ole Bill continue to play the race card and have been pissing off blacks for the last four months!

"For Obama to take 94% of Black voters has everything to do with race... just admit it."

Only for racists. Obama's supporters have lots of reasons for supporting him, even his black supporters. It is a racist slur to claim that the ONLY reason they support him is his race. It insults them as thinking people which they have proven they are in elections going back decades.
The black population rarely votes against their own economic interests but OBVIOUSLY some white blue collar workers are willing to vote agaisnt their own. So, which group is more racist???

Corky is like a bad NASCAR wreck in slow motion being repeated on ESPN - over and over

You lose ladycock - get over it

Clinton had more black support in November 2007 than Obama did. If his appeal was entirely racial, as some people keep saying, explain that fact. Did he change races?

why would he say that he commands the lesser numbers...so of course he hadn't said it....it's not a plus.

Posted by kwrx25


That might be true if he ONLY was shooting for black votes. At the caucus in my district here in eastern Nebraska There were only a handful of blacks in the crowd of over 300 Obama supporters for just my legislative district. The rest were white, and this is "white" western Omaha. IMHO that more than proves that Obama appeals to white voters.

Funny too is that Hillary is also complaining that the whole FL/MI issue is a civil rights one.

It is a racist slur to claim that the ONLY reason they support him is his race.

94%

or the fact that the Hillary campaign and ole Bill continue to play the race card and have been pissing off blacks for the last four months!

Posted by geezer1


DING DING DING

We have a winner

too bad for Corky that Hillbillary cant escalate their campaign to incite racial riots now

To pretend as though blacks aren't voting for Obama because he's black is fucking hilarious. Of all the stupidity you dumb-shits spew daily, this one takes the cake.

They're lockstep voters.

Case Closed!!!
Sarge

Danni,

What does he have in common with undeducated, poor, unemployed, unarticulate, profligate, gangsta-lovin' hood dwellers except his skin?

Once again, I teach them all day. They're voting for Obomba because he's black....period...They don't even know who the other candidates are or what party their in or when the election is being held....

They aren't bad people. They're just ignorant and racist....

Rogers

"proportionally black" was in retort.

Why, does that offend you? As a Hillary supporter, being pictured as a member of the KKK offends me.

Posting a KKK pic in the beginning of the same discussion on race is also incredibly stupid and provocative.

But I guess if you are the Blog God with no pretensions of objectivity, you can post that pic first and then whine when it is retorted.

Also, the longer you go not tellin' us why you support a candidate that disenfranchised your vote by not endorsing a DNC approved re vote, only makes you look more the unconscionable sycophant.

Someone should ball gag this whore. Maybe Corky can loan her one of his.

"The reference is to supers going against the pledged delegate count."

Posted by tigerbalm

What kind of democrat has a problem with Superdelegates? It's only been in the rules for 20+ years. You've had all that time to change the rules or create a new party.

Funny how people who say we should allow disenfranchisement of FL and MI on the basis of "rules" are completely okay with people abandoning the party for adhering to rules that have been on the books for over 20 YEARS.

And they still claim the high road.

Clinton had more black support in November 2007 than Obama did. If his appeal was entirely racial, as some people keep saying, explain that fact. Did he change races?

Posted by rcade at 2008-05-08 11:05 AM | Reply |


What has Obama done to endear himself to the lock step voting blacks?
The answer is absolutely nothing, well except be black.

only makes you look more the unconscionable sycophant.

and in your room you ignore the giant elephant


THE INEVITABLE VICTORY OF OBAMA

They're lockstep voters.


Posted by 101Chairborne

...as opposed to racist white trash like 101 who, after careful consideration of all the facts, always vote for the best person, i.e white,black,man or woman. HAHAHAHAHA!

Clinton had more black support in November 2007 than Obama did. If his appeal was entirely racial, as some people keep saying, explain that fact. Did he change races?

I have told this story here before, but I think it is appropriate here as well. In July of 2007 I went out to the seminar portion of the Essence Festival - a weekend here in NOLA which is mainly tailored to African-Americans from all over the country. Here I am, a white-male in a predominantly African-American setting, with my Obama gear on, trying to sign up Obama supporters. I can remember being told over and over by people that they were not interested and they were Hillary supporters. I have to admit that I was perplexed as this demographic seemed to be the easiest for Obama to pick up, but he was having troubles making in-roads. So to say that African-Americans are backing Obama solely because he is black isn't true. Obama has worked hard to garner their trust and support and Clinton has helped by scaring off their support.

-Someone should ball gag this whore. Maybe Corky can loan her one of his.

Get yours back from Rogers and I'll see what I can do.

Subject: Harry Truman




When President Truman retired from office in 1952, his income was substantially a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 (that's thirteen thousand) a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an "allowance" and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year. When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating,"You don't want me. You want the office of the president, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."


Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."


We now see that the Clinton's have found a new level of success in cashing in on the presidency, resulting in untold wealth (over $100 million dollars). Today, many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale.


Was good old Harry Truman correct when he observed, "My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference."

Clinton had more black support in November 2007 than Obama did. If his appeal was entirely racial, as some people keep saying, explain that fact. Did he change races?

Posted by rcade


Every other group is 55-45% or 60-40% or somewhere kind of close like that between the two of them except for the black vote which is somewhere around 94%. His appeal is not entirely racial... there's still 6% who aren't voting for him afterall.

What has Obama done to endear himself