"I don't need this much space," McHugh said of his SUV. "It just seems ridiculous."

...Does this also apply to the car-culture inducing single-family tract homes of Suburbia?

If you don't want to pay high gas prices for your car, then live somewhere where you can walk/ride your bike.

No sympathy for SUV or car drivers... It's your fault for living there. You made the unsustainable choice to live in the 'burbs.

"I don't need this much space," McHugh said of his SUV. "It just seems ridiculous."

Why didn't it seem ridiculous when he bought it? Have his needs for space changed?

I always get a kick out of it when I see some massive gas guzzling SUV on the road, clipping along at 80, with one skinny little jerkoff in it, and there's the "Support The Troops" magnet on the back. Way to support the troops. Ya think we'd be losing kids in Iraq if it wasn't near the center of the worlds oil, ya friggen tool?

You would love me then.
You can recognize me when i am driving my old truck by the blur of 6000 pound of steel powered by a 460 running at 120 making 2-3mpg if that. Or the Lincoln mark viii at 138 mph but at least i get 15mpg at top speed in that.

"It just seems ridiculous."

It seemed ridiculous, even obscene, to many of us when we invaded Iraq.

I already have 150,000 miles on the truck and I have land in the sticks; It's useful. I prefer to use the Porsche to commute when the weather's nice.

I owned and flew a pressurized twin-engine airplane for hundreds of hours; Trained at FlightSafety.

Don't talk to me about fuel costs.

Talk to me about rate-of-return-on-investment.

Her name is RONA.


I'll start a list of government lunacy:

1. McGovern: Guaranteed annual income.

2. Bush: No child left behind.

With the exception of large-scale nuclear war, there will be survivors. At least that's my opinion at the moment.

Zat- Nobody fucking cares about your flying or your imported vehicle.

I drive a chevy pickup with 217,000 on it, gets 30 to the gallon.

When your non-american pos dies I'll still be driving my truck.

Instead of tooting your own horn, how about some real solutions? Use that brain of yours. Or maybe you just don't care about America.

"Zat- Nobody fucking cares about your flying or your imported vehicle.

I drive a chevy pickup with 217,000 on it, gets 30 to the gallon.

When your non-american pos dies I'll still be driving my truck.

Instead of tooting your own horn, how about some real solutions? Use that brain of yours. Or maybe you just don't care about America."

Posted by Jabberwocky

I drove the same little 1972 BMW 2002 with no air conditioning for 30 years. It never broke.

America elected Reagan.

American cars are shit with a few exceptions.

American airplanes, OTOH.

"Why didn't it seem ridiculous when he bought it?"
yeah... that's it, huh?!?!

i've a neo-con friend who last year bought something needs a landing strip to get near my house.
i belittled him then as he bought it seemingly out of spite.
now when he visits, he drives his wife 4-cylinder car.

i laugh and scoff at these people while understand that a few actually need them - to those few i feel genuine sympathy.
however, they are vastly outnumbered by idiots who just felt as though they needed something huge to drive the kids around in.

all the best

" gets 30 to the gallon."
[citation needed]

Or at least admit the unit of measure is kilometers.

If you don't know what 30 to the gallon means, then go crawl back under your rock.

And by the way, son, in America we use miles.
Maybe you didn't know that.

"to the gallon"

Ever hear of the Mobil Gas Economy Run?

Ever have a brain?

"And by the way, son"

I'll use furlongs or fermis if it pleases me.

And don't even pretend to call me "son."

But then it's not a real truck. Kinda like a little baby pickup, not cute though.

Big Trucks, Large SUV's are the American way. How many of you just want to go out and buy a new truck?

The new hybrid Tahoe gets 20 mpg. Wow. It only costs $54K.

What ever happened to the electric cars. 8 cents a KW means 150 mpg equivalent?

I drive a chevy pickup with 217,000 on it, gets 30 to the gallon.

When your non-american pos dies I'll still be driving my truck.

Instead of tooting your own horn, how about some real solutions? Use that brain of yours. Or maybe you just don't care about America.

Posted by Jabberwocky
* * * *

My Lexus SUV has 215k and gets 28 hwy. Wanna guess where it was built?

Talk to me about the so-called American cars when BMW and Toyota and Mercedes aren't built in the United States, and Ford and GM don't build plants in Mexico and Canada. The finest cars in the world are built right here in American plants by American workers for the American consumer. They just don't have Ford or Chevy or Dodge anywhere on the rear bumpers.

I recall this gem from someone here, a while back:

"A yellow ribbon on a large SUV is like a rosary on a whore."

Can't remember the source, but I use it frequently.

There was that whole "Well, I just feel safer, knowing that whomever or whatever I hit, I will be safer" justification for these roadgoing yachts.

Good point. You forgot Honda built in Ohio.

Do you know or have heard anyone that traded in their Honda for a (Ford, GM or Dodge)?

Do you know or have heard anyone that traded in their Honda for a (Ford, GM or Dodge)?

Posted by Unclesam
* * *

LOL. Never thought about it before, but no.

In related news, I've never heard of anyone divorcing a 25-year-old hottie for a 45-year-old fatty.

When I was in Switzerland a few months ago, gas was $7.50/gal.

The SUV makes a lot of sense when you fill it up with a lot of people, camping gear and soccer balls. It makes no sense as a commuter car for one person. It didn't make sense as a commuter car when gas was 98 cents a gallon.

ahhh ha ha ah ha ha hah

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG>........

this is so funny.....and let me make it even better by putting this FIRST on this site
this is particularly for all you texas haters....

in paper today.
oil and gas employment is booming in texas much because of price of gas and oil
so much so that the texas comptrollers office predicts to the leg that opens this jan..
a TEN.SEVEN BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS........thats an exra 10.7 BILLION......and we thank all of you very much

aaaahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha .

take that, you texas bashing bastards.

BLT,

Funny, I thought you cared about the American economy and hated tuurrist. But you laugh at the misery of the USA to the benifit of the ME.

You are truely lost. Just keep your eyes closed and keep chanting USA, USA, USA...

"oil and gas employment is booming in texas much because of price of gas and oil so much so that the texas comptrollers office predicts to the leg that opens this jan.. a TEN.SEVEN BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS.. thats an exra 10.7 BILLION... and we thank all of you very muchtake that, you texas bashing bastards."

you really aren't helping your cause much.

great - the texas economy is booming as the country sinks lower and lower into recession.
so.... to carry it forward... the bigger the pile of shit american finds its economy, the better for texas.
wonderful for you and your horse... and actually, it explains a lot.

please...
go back into your bedroom and see if you can still fill up the mayonnaise jar the way your mother showed you.

all the best.

and btw -
calchris yesterday wondered why poster were picking on texas.

hey calchris...
posts such as bushlover2's is why.

tis always a joy to go drudging in the shallow end of the gene pool

all the best.
light out for the night.

Is that silly complete tax write off still on the books? The one that lets you write off a 2 ton vehicle (read Escalade, Navigator)

They did a good job in the WH at getting people to buy gas guzzlers before starting the war that resulted in sky high oil prices.

Looks like there might be some buying opportunities

If I owned a SUV I wouldn't sell it I would just learn how to conserve on pushaline. That's all.

Larry Mohr

Drive a Chery QQ. I do.

Best car in the world... over 50 miles per gallon.

Get the CNG model.. don't run it on petrol (gasoline?) and your fuel cost falls by half!

Made in China.

My v-8 Z71 4x4 extended cab is running great! Wouldn't dump it for nothin.

Only morons bought SUV's in the first place and so now even they are admitting they're "Morons"!

Also if the SUV's are coming back to bite these idiots so hard in the ass just imagine what the future toll (punishment) is going to be for having willingly played along with the Bush/Republicians and their Iraq "Oil" War!!!

I would not be able to fit in it. Has nothing to do with being fat. Has everything to do with being tall.

I'm 6 feet tall and can fit with room to spare. How much taller can you be?

Anyway... one of the things I'm trying to say is, now that China has started making cars, the Japanese and Korean car industries are going to get a beating.

This thing cost me half the price of a Toyota and cheaper than a Suzuki or Santro (korean). And it has more electronics than any other car. Fullyloaded... power this, power that...

Chinese made the QQ from off the shelf German parts. It is actually a German car under the hood.

I'm 6 feet tall and can fit with room to spare. How much taller can you be?

5 inches

You'll fit.

You'll fit.

It must be larger than an American midsized car, then, because I do not fit into those.

Besides, I like having steel around me. I don't want a flimsy tin can that will collapse when hit at 10 MPH.

Unbelievable that the Chinese make a car to fit a 6'5" frame when their average height is 5'6".

Only morons bought SUV's in the first place and so now even they are admitting they're "Morons"!

Couldn't agree more... Most of the people that bought SUVs are fronters that need to impress others.. They are (were) a status symbol and completely ridiculous.

With all due respect Tosser You can shove that car straight up Your ringpiece sideways for all I care. I don't want a beer can around Me. I want a tank around Me. Besides I am BIG I don't want to have to call the Fire Department every time I wanted to get out of the blooming thing. It's DINKY.

Larry Mohr

Tosser:

I decided to look up some specs on that QQ car to see if you are correct -- that I could fit into it. The first article I read was this, then I stopped.

The car is at the center of an industrial rights controversy, since General Motors have claimed that it is very similar to the Chevrolet Spark/Daewoo Matiz. GM executives have proved that the doors of the Chery car can be mounted on the Chevrolet Spark without modification,[1] and Car and Driver, an automobile magazine, calls it "a copy".

Goatman:

I seems to be taller than wider. It's got headroom.

But then if you can't fit into the Chevy then I guess I was wrong.


Larry:

One of the reasons I got this car was that it has a thicker sheet for the body. This ain't no tin can like some Japanese car.

I seems to be taller than wider.


IT seems to be....

The error is muchly regretted.

My wife's '93 Explorer XLT (208,000 miles)gets 17 mpg overall, and my '92 Corolla wagon (272,000 miles) gets 35 mpg overall. Guess which one we'll be driving until the doors fall off?

Different realities require different actions. Until gasoline went over two dollars per gallon, a home in the suburbs was a good bet to avoid urban crime and crowding. Look for renewal of mass transit and gentrification of close-to-downtown urban shitholes. Crime in the city will probably not be tolerated as the swells from the exurbs come back to downtown!

I drive a 1988 Mitsubishi mighty max.

It's small and great on gas. A vehicle is a utilitarian thing for me. I don't give a fiddly fart about what it looks like as long as it has seat belts and an engine.

All I want to do is go from point A to point B in relative comfort. If point A is within a mile of point B, I ride my bike.

First car I've owned in 5 years. Bought it for 1k at an auto auction. It does have a fine stereo in it though.

It's small and great on gas. A vehicle is a utilitarian thing for me. I don't give a fiddly fart about what it looks like as long as it has seat belts and an engine.

That's me. I'm not out to impress anyone with my vehicles. I drive a 8 yo chevy pickup, 150 kmiles. No auto anything. Gotta roll down windows manually, gotta shift, stock sound system, low cost (but good) tires, stock rims etc.

My Jeep Wrangler gets about 16. When I bought it, I had a job that provided me with wheels, so it was only used as a second car. New job, much better pay, but no free ride. MPG wasn't much of an issue when I bought it, but it is starting to really be painful now. But damn, it's nice to have the rag-top on sunny days.

Goat,

Not bad, my truck is 10 years old chevy and is great. Got it and use it mainly for towing my camping trailer for the wife and I. It also has 130K and I need to put new tires on it this year.

I usually take the vrroooom vtx to work unless it snows or ices.

Nothing like cruising the country on a bike, see more, stop more, and get by far more smelling fresh air. What a thrill.

That's me. I'm not out to impress anyone with my vehicles. I drive a 8 yo chevy pickup, 150 kmiles. No auto anything. Gotta roll down windows manually, gotta shift, stock sound system, low cost (but good) tires, stock rims etc.

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-08 07:03 AM

That sounds like me too. I drive a 98 Chevy PU with manual windows and stock sound, but it's an automatic. I've got about 165,000 miles on her, and she's still going strong. When the time comes, I will replace her with another Chevy PU.

and the point, of course, is to merely point out that to all of you sonsabitches who keep wanting us to be taken back by mexico or seceede.....that is just a little message to remind you that texas is one of the few states that could stand on its own, if we needed to.......so just keep on with your little comments and nonsense and maybe someday we will both be right.....

and again....thats 10.7 BILLION LEFT OVER........

hee hee...........

and of course we need to also mention the downside of that.

riggs offshore.....( possible problems, but great for fishing)

air in parts of gulf coast that you can see. (its green)

on every terrorists first strike list with mamouth refinaries all up and down the coast but mainly in houston.

but those are our little burdens,but I think we can work things out with THAT EXTRA ALMOST 11 BILLION DOLLARS.................

oh oh.......I cant stop laughin.........

Most of you are dipshits with your SUVs. This isn't new news! People have been talking about this for decades. You just didn't listen and cared more about what your neighbors/johnqpublic thought... Stupid!

Most of you are dipshits with your SUVs. This isn't new news! People have been talking about this for decades. You just didn't listen and cared more about what your neighbors/johnqpublic thought... Stupid!

When the time comes, I will replace her with another Chevy PU.

Same here. In fact mine is my second one. The first one I had for 11 years, 200 kmiles. All I ever did other than the usual preventative maintenance was change the starter motor and the fuel pump. She was leaking oil towards the end -- about a quart every 4 or 5 tankfulls. But as I said on a thread a few weeks ago, I drive slowly, no jackrabbit starts or stops, etc. That goes a long ways towards the longevity of a car IMO.

I too will buy another Chevy pickup when this one's life is over.

JSP-
I've never had an SUV, but we did have a Taurus station wagon when the kids were small and later got a Honda CRV to haul them from practices, etc.

I don't begrudge someone wanting to drive an SUV for whatever reason(s) they choose. Just like with the size of their home... or whether they choose to eat filet vs hamburger.

When/if someone feels the cost of gas & maintenance doesn't outweigh the reasons they bought the SUV they'll make a change. It comes down to a cost vs benefit decision. We had this same quandry back during the first Gulf War. Dealerships had a hard time unloading their inventory of large vehicles.

Until then, it's their choice as to how to spend their money.

Ooohrah..

It is always a choice.. I simply said that those that chose to buy SUVs made a very dumb choice and most of them made it for really stupid reasons... Did I imply that somebody forced them to be stupid???

Sprague,

In states like Michigan, SUV's have practical appeal:

1. They are all available with 4WD - when you've got mom Shclepping the kids around during a blizzard in Michigan, 4WD adds a level of control on hazardous roads that is appreciated as is the crashworthiness and the more commanding view of the road afforded by the higher seating position.

2. They have space and seating that is comparable to a station wagon. When going on a 3-4 hour road trip to Northern Michigan for a 4-day weekend hauling the kids, dog and lots of stuff, space and utility are crucial.

3. When talking about the bigger SUV's, we are typically talking about body-on-frame, or at least unibody with a live rear axle. This allows for considerably higher towing capacity than a car - an absolute must for Michiganders who are towing a trailer or a boat.

4. For the most part, they ARE capable of going off-road which is a must for certain vacationing in Northern Michigan.

JSP-
I just get a bit weary of people assuming other's motives for purchases... whether that's something you implied - I was just making a general comment on how people in the USA ought to be free to choose.

I agree with you to the extent an SUV might be overkill. Stupid? Not necessarily. Perhaps more like misplaced priorities, but then someone might look at my business suit or my bling and say the same thing. Yo.

All valid points Jeff, but it doesn't explain why dipshits in LA, Miami, NY, SF, ETC are buying SUVs. My explanation does...

I have a Subaru Outback that gets around 30mpg and can do anything an SUV can do.. SUVs were/are a status symbol and it is funny as hell to watch these "keeping up with the Jones'" types trying to get rid of them. They can all suck it..

JJ,

You mean us outback hicks in the northwest don't have the same reasons?..........SARCASM

Even those of us who kids have left the nest still like the comfort of the 4x4 and towing ability.

It does a great job of getting to work, to the ski slopes, and the hunting grounds and let alone the ability to haul building material for the home improvement. Just think, 45 dollars saved every time I use my truck instead of having it delivered.

Just finished my hard wood floors and tiling for the kitchen and the weather is improving so the fence and drive is next. All requiring hauling and the truck does the work.

You mean us outback hicks in the northwest don't have the same reasons?

Well, I live in the Northwest.. But do you drive a truck to work everyday? If so, by necessity or by choice?

Sprague,


I have a Subaru Outback that gets around 30mpg and can do anything an SUV can do.. SUVs were/are a status symbol and it is funny as hell to watch these "keeping up with the Jones'" types trying to get rid of them. They can all suck it..


Absolutely.

The up-and-coming trend is crossovers. "SUV's" built on car platforms. Essentially, they are 4WD/AWD available station wagons that are designed to look like SUV's but drive like cars with all of the other advantages cars have over SUV's.

Due to family connections, I am able to purchase/lease Ford products at employee pricing.

We had an '02 Explorer and when the lease was up 3 years later we switched to a Ford Freestyle. We saved about 5 miles per gallon in fuel consumption with identical acceleration and gained in utility, particularly stowage behind the 3rd row seat. When the 2-year lease on our Freestyle expired, we leased a Taurus X - which is a re-designed Freestyle.

Since we don't need to tow and don't need to go off-road, the Taurus X matches or exceeds the Explorer on all other areas of consideration. It was a no-brainer for us.

"I don't need this much space," McHugh said of his SUV. "It just seems ridiculous."

Why didn't it seem ridiculous when he bought it? Have his needs for space changed?

Posted by JOE


No, but now his irrational choice is costing him more money so all of a sudden it is "ridiculous".

Of course it was ridiculous when he bought it, but he was just buying into the hype of keeping up with the neighbors and the scare tactics of the auto industry citing them as "safer" than cars.

I have a friend who bought one of the biggest SUV's around when gas was $1.69 per gallon then had to hear him bitch and whine when it $3. But he would not dump it for a smaller car because of the "prestige" of having it. What a dope.

I look out into the parking lot of my building and 70% of the vehicles are SUV's. Most with one commuter, female who never ever ever take them off road or haul cargo. But they have bought into the "status" of owning one. Dopes.

yea. i'm an indi/contractor. i do some pretty large jobs. i drive a mazda 626(car). i can fit almost every thing in my little car that i need, and what ever i cant home depo will deliver. so why does some soccer mom, or dad, need a big suv if i dont. i sick of these a holes that can hardly drive a small car driving these big suvs, empty, not paying attention to how they drive, talking on there cells. it seems the bigger the vehicle you drive the bigger the jerk you are.

But as I said on a thread a few weeks ago, I drive slowly, no jackrabbit starts or stops, etc. That goes a long ways towards the longevity of a car IMO.


Absolutely right Goatman, also saves gas.

Read an article last night that in tests a Camry would get 40mpg on the highway at 55. At 75... 30 mpg.

If everyone drove 10 mph less on the highway America would save billions in fuel and that would translate into lower gas prices.

I hate to say it but.. Our best friends bought an Xterra with the entire "offroad" package. Yeah they are really into offroading, but who in their right mind would do it in a brand new Nissan? Nt them either.. So what is the point.. People that are into cars baffle me!

A car is a way for me to get places I NEED to go so I don't have to take the bus..

I look out into the parking lot of my building and 70% of the vehicles are SUV's.


I love driving my son to preschool.

Every vehicle in the parking lot is either an SUV or a minivan and then I show up in my 2-door, Acura RSX Type-S.

I feel like such a rebel!

My car gets about 30 mpg in mixed driving, BTW.

Sprague,


People that are into cars baffle me!


Guilty as charged.

I am a major car enthusiast.


I think it's something that just has to be experienced.


Spend some time behind the wheel of Zat's Porsche 9-11 Carrera S or my dad's BMW 545i and then see if your opinion has changed.

Taking my kids to St Stephen's in a BMW 2002 with a primer-painted hood amid the new Mercedes used to embarrass my daughter. Damn thing never broke.
$4200; 24 years; Sold for $2000.

all I have to say is...

AHHHHHHHHH! ROFLCOPTER!

I've been waiting for the SUV-holes to get theirs for a long time.

-Viz

Zat,


Didn't that 2002 have over 200k on the odo when you finally got rid of it?

Sorry JJ,

Get on a bike and spend a day on a long road trip, and I suspect the 2 wheel verity will become one of your enthusiasms too.

Spend some time behind the wheel of Zat's Porsche 9-11 Carrera S or my dad's BMW 545i and then see if your opinion has changed.

Are you inviting me to meet your dad and go for a drive?

MW,


Road bikes scare me.

I can see the merit of a dirt-bike or an Enduro, but bikes designed for road-use only are scary.

As a teenager I had a moped that topped out at 42 mph (an Aero 50) and I still found cars to be more appealing.

I'll pilot a snowmobile, a dirt-bike or a wave-runner, but I have no desire to ride your rice-burner.

Get on a bike....

---- Moneywar -----


My sentiments exactly. I love blasting by these behemouth SUVs and giving them a shot of my oh so sweet pipe music --- all while getting 50-60 mpg.

In houston you can ride a bike all year long. And helments are optional.

I'll pilot a snowmobile, a dirt-bike or a wave-runner, but I have no desire to ride your rice-burner.

Crotch rockets are pretty stupid unless you have really low self esteem... But a scoter is where it is at, especially if you are in the Cook Islands...

SUVs were/are a status symbol and it is funny as hell to watch these "keeping up with the Jones'" types trying to get rid of them. They can all suck it..

Posted by jsprague at 2008-05-08 08:14 AM | Reply

While I might agree with that when someone buys a Hummer or Lincoln Navigator, for most people an SUV was the best option available.

Most people can't afford a small car for commuting and a big car for shopping and family outings. They can only afford one family car, so they go with what works for them.

Besides, you aren't trash talking minivans, which have as much space as a medium SUV -- just different sheet metal. Sounds like you're the one who fell for the SUV marketing.

I'll pilot a snowmobile...

I've never been on a snowmobile in my life. I don't think I've ever actually seen one either except pictures and movies, of course.

Long-term the problem with these monster SUVs is they are going to be the commuter vehicles of the poor for the next 15 years. Because they will be so cheap to buy.

When I was in high school I bought several big American hulks left over from the 1970s -- because I could get an Impala for $150. Since I was making pizza at the time, it was all I could afford

Are you inviting me to meet your dad and go for a drive?


Well, not exactly.


Anyways, my dad is not a huge car enthusiast either. However, when asked, here's how he sums up his Bimmer:

"The I-Drive (which is BMS's f-ed up system for operating the stereo and other non-essential functions) is a piece of shit. However, in terms of power, ride, handling and comfort, the car is superb."

We have season tickets to UofM football. One of my dad's closest friends tailgates with us. Last year after a game, my dad and his friend drove to the west side of the state (near Grand Rapids) for a golf weekend. My dad had his friend drive the Bimmer as he had some work to get caught up on. My dad's friend is a big-time car enthusiast. At the following football game, I asked him what he thought of the Bimmer. His answer was:

"That car is wasted in your dad's hands."

just different sheet metal. Sounds like you're the one who fell for the SUV marketing.

How so idiot? I don't an SUV or a minivan.. Stupid Vernon... Many assumptions - all wrong..

Couldn't agree more... Most of the people that bought SUVs are fronters that need to impress others.. They are (were) a status symbol and completely ridiculous.

Posted by jsprague



Dumb comment. :-) Does that include ALL SUVs? Even for people who want passenger capability AND the ability to load cargo, and can't afford both a truck AND a car?

I think people driving a Chevy Tracker, for example, hardly bought it because it was a status symbol. lol

OK now someone disagrees with you.

Goat,


I've never been on a snowmobile in my life.

they are an absolute blast, but you've gotta really dress for them - flying through the woods at 80 mph in sub-zero temperatures requires a lot of clothing.

Zat,
Carrera 4S


My apologies.

I knew that and certainly didn't mean to snub your ride.

Porsche's "4" technology was downright revolutionary when the 959 debuted. What an incredible car that was, and still is.

300K?

Damn!

No wonder you are nostalgiac about that car. It was like a Maytag as advertised!

MIDI,

A Generalization does not a Universalization make.

If you don't know what the words in a post mean, look them up in a dictionary before you decide to post in response.

Maybe then you won't get so excited when you misread somebody's statement and your responses will more directly address the post actually made, not the post you think you read.

If you're in the Northeast and a nervous driver (most women...) then knock yourself out. Especially if you have kids and a dog (cars are too small for traveling out of town).

Personally, I always made it around Buffalo just fine in my VW's, but I did appreciate the Jeep Cherokee (getting out of the driveway, pulling away from stops, etc).

That said, without fail, the majority of the retards I pass that have driven off of the road are without fail 4x4's.
Hint: They are no good in turns, and they don't stop any better...

Zat,


Excellent photos.

What's amazing to me is how timeless the body design was.

That is a good-looking car even by modern standards.

"Couldn't agree more... MOST of the people that bought SUVs"

MidiMan, MOST doesn't mean ALL.

"Couldn't agree more... MOST of the people that bought SUVs"

MidiMan, MOST doesn't mean ALL.

"Couldn't agree more... MOST of the people that bought SUVs"

MidiMan, MOST doesn't mean ALL.

Dumb comment. :-) Does that include ALL SUVs? Even for people who want passenger capability AND the ability to load cargo, and can't afford both a truck AND a car?

I never said that those that don't need it shouldnt have it... I was referring to the vast majority of American dipshits that found it trendy..

All I can say is: HAHA (ala Nelson)

I love parking my Chevy Cobalt in the sea of soccer mom monoliths at the local Target.

Sorry, got a little crazy with the Post button

Feel pretty strongly about that, Ben?

;-)

Chair,


That said, without fail, the majority of the retards I pass that have driven off of the road are without fail 4x4's.

Many of their drivers mistakenly believe that they are invincible in inclement weather and drive accordingly.


PS - do me a favor and click my user profile. I took a page out of your book earlier today and am curious as to how I did. Trust me, if you scroll through my posts today, my inquiry will make sense to you.

Is anybody noticing that the market is beginning to help solve our fuel issues?

Not into the crotch rockets, have a cruiser and it goes fast enough.

I like the ride of the bike with a more comfortable ride.

JJ,

Get on a bike and take a little tour around the country side, smell the flowers, the growing corn, and you'll be hooked.

MW,


Get on a bike and take a little tour around the country side, smell the flowers, the growing corn, and you'll be hooked

I've spent a few hours behind the wheel of my parents' '03 T-Bird (convertible). Believe me, I understand the visceral appeal that you are alluding to.

1 question: Is a bike discernably different than a convertible in the sense that you are describing?

I was referring to the vast majority of American dipshits that found it trendy..

Posted by jsprague at 2008-05-08 09:24 AM | Reply

Thanks for proving my point, you moron. Most people I know with an SUV needed space and power, or felt safer.

Of course, they aren't hauling four kids, a dog and a week of groceries all the time. That's why you see single commuters driving them to work.

If you live alone and eat canned soup then an Outback is adequate for you and your cat, but many of us have other people in our lives.

My greater point is that you keep trash talking SUV owners as not being as brilliant and enlightened as you think you are. People buy minivans for exactly the same reason: space and comfort.

I always get a kick out of it when I see some massive gas guzzling SUV on the road, clipping along at 80, with one skinny little jerkoff in it, and there's the "Support The Troops" magnet on the back. Way to support the troops. Ya think we'd be losing kids in Iraq if it wasn't near the center of the worlds oil, ya friggen tool?

I'm one of those tools, though I'm usually driving with the family. I bought a Suburban in September 2001 when I was shopping for a family van and they were cheap, and now it's paid off. Every time I gas up I feel like I'm doing my part for Osama Bin Laden.

Ugh.

We have been driving full-size vans for years. Recently we got fed up with spending more money every week on gas than on groceries and we purchased a Chevy Aveo. Five-speed manual transmission. Roll-down windows, push-down locks. Seats 4. 4-door hatch back. Comes fully equipped with a radio (AM/FM!) and a clock. Absolutely NO frills. My husband now spends $30 per week on gas as compared to $95+ per week when he drove the van. I use the van for local errands only. A quarter tank of gas has lasted me almost a month now in the van. Frankly, I do not understand why people aren't lining up to buy these sub-compact cars! The Aveo cost us $7800, no trade-in, no down payment! Amazing! And the oil companies can kiss my gas tank! LOL!

Chevy Aveo - A South Korean with a bow-tie.

Every time I gas up I feel like I'm doing my part for Osama Bin Laden.

Ugh.

Posted by rcade


ah but rcade...remember this too.....part of that HAS to go to support chavez.....AND many of us here in texas.....hee hee

lets give you that figure again.

10.7 BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS.......thats not what we HAVE to have or budget for this or that....THATS EXTRA MONEY........hee hee.......and now when many of you call for the end of texas as a state, maybe you will think that maybe someday you would be BEGGING us for oil because you were FREEZING IN THE FRIGGIN DARK.........oh oh.....ha ha ha...someone PLEASE make me stop laughing.........

ah but rcade...remember this too.....part of that HAS to go to support chavez.....AND many of us here in texas.....hee hee
lets give you that figure again.
10.7 BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS.......thats not what we HAVE to have or budget for this or that....THATS EXTRA MONEY........hee hee.......and now when many of you call for the end of texas as a state, maybe you will think that maybe someday you would be BEGGING us for oil because you were FREEZING IN THE FRIGGIN DARK.........oh oh.....ha ha ha...someone PLEASE make me stop laughing.........
Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-05-08 11:49 AM

Put the dildo back up your ass, that isn't "laughter" you are hearing.

"Every time I gas up I feel like I'm doing my part for Osama Bin Laden."

Posted by rcade

Then you are incredibly clueless as to where the US obtains the majority of it oil imports.