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An oil price of $200 per barrel is a real possibility in the next two years, Goldman Sachs predicted yesterday as the commodity's price pushed further into record territory.

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Three years after the investment bank invited ridicule by postulating a "super-spike" that would send oil over $100 a barrel for the first time, the Goldman Sachs analyst Arjun Murti warned that high prices would last even longer and go even higher than previously thought.

In London trading yesterday, Brent crude moved above $120 for the first time, while light sweet crude traded in New York set another intra-day record over $122, before settling at $121.84.

Mr Murti predicted that, although Western countries were beginning to discuss the need to reduce energy consumption, there was still no sign of the excess production capacity needed to cool the market. "The possibility of $150-$200 per barrel seems increasingly likely over the next six-24 months," Mr Murti told clients, "though predicting the ultimate peak in oil prices, as well as the remaining duration of the upcycle, remains a major uncertainty... a multi-year decline in global oil demand is needed in order to recreate a spare capacity cushion and bring about potentially lower energy commodity prices."

Goldman says that the factors leading the oil price higher remain firmly in place, particularly a lack of supply growth. Countries in the Opec producers' cartel are close to capacity, the growth in Russian production is slowing, and in Mexico it is falling. Meanwhile, demand from emerging markets continues to soar.

Mr Murti added: "We believe there is a fundamental misperception among many in the oil industry, Wall Street, the media, politicians and the general public that so-called 'speculators' are driving up the oil price to supposedly unjustified levels. Unfortunately, we do not think the energy crisis will be solved by finding and punishing the big, bad speculator. In fact, commodity investors are helping to solve the energy crisis by speeding up the process of incentivising higher capital spending on a wide range of energy projects, while at the same time encouraging lower levels of demand by energy users."

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I don't think it'll get there because by then the economy will have tanked (pun intended) reducing not only domestice US demand, but global demand.

An oil price of $200 per barrel is a real possibility in the next two years



2 years?

No... more like 6 months.

How do you like them apples?

Vern,

What ever happened to $30 per barrell?

i hate capital letters on my posts... don't quite know why...
to much ee cummings as a college student, perhaps.
but may it'll help.... ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF ENERGY.

maybe, just maybe - when moms can't drive their kids to school in their suv or dad can't drive to work - we'll think about it.
i would love to simply blame bush - and of course he is a part of the problem - but it isn't just his pointed (yet somehow blunt) head that should be held responsible.
it's years and years of americans not paying attention, being complacent and oblivious to the world's demand to the evil oil... hence - in the last several years, those same suv and large trucks still sell.
and any talk about such things and the one mentioning it is a liberal, gay, unamerican treehugger.
damned those names!

oh - and one of the things we haven't been paying a lot of attention to.... those spineless dems.
clinton did so little on this, even scoffing at gore when he brought it up. this congress isn't much though where have they been for the last two decades?
wimps!

all the best.

If this doesn't cause you to experience a sick feeling, you need to find a way to get that sick feeling. Why?

Many entire countries are at or coming to the limit that they can reasonably exist financially and economically. More will put far to many over the top. Just what happens when you push countries or people past their limits?

While there is a small delay in seeing the result of impossible costs, the world will start seeing more and more desperate countries. This will mean violence in increasing amounts.

The shit has already hit the fans full force. Seems OK but think of this, The shit hasn't landed yet. It will.

In 1994 Clinton vetoed the bill to drill in Anwar because it would take 10 years to get that oil to the pumps.

And there's maybe 6 months worth of oil in ANWR...

While there is a small delay in seeing the result of impossible costs, the world will start seeing more and more desperate countries. This will mean violence in increasing amounts

It is already beginning.

The next wave of high inflationary pressures on chicken and pork are heading towards the American public.

That is sure to help out the recession.

No one plans to fail, just fails to plan. The idiots in this nation thought that cheap oil would last forever (I can name more than a few right wing mouthpieces that have said that). That kept real inflation artificially low. Well you can say goodbye to those days.

"No one plans to fail, just fails to plan."


Ouch. Thats is so cliche it almost painful. Please refrain from quoting that eighties success calender from now on.

P.S. That hang in there cat, well, it is right out too.

This from a Dec. 10th article.
Full article link at bottom.

Just how large this "speculative premium" is has become a matter of intense debate. Historically, says Fadel Gheit, a veteran oil analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. in New York, oil prices have run about three times what it costs to physically extract a barrel from the ground. Given that these extraction costs run between $15 to $19 a barrel worldwide, the "correct" price should be somewhere between $45 to $57. Indeed, as recently as 2005, OPEC itself claimed that $45 was a reasonable price. If that's true, we're paying a speculative premium of up to $45 for each barrel, or about $1 for each gallon of gasoline.

www.latimes.com

A couple of months ago I thought that $150 oil was inevitable; now I'm not nearly so sure. Once the market starts to price in the inevitability of soaring prices, and the futures markets shifts to reflect it, there's usually only one direction: down.

Might be time to blow out of energy stocks. At least take a lot of profits.

Then again, I might feel differently tomorrow.

"Might be time to blow out of energy stocks. At least take a lot of profits.

Then again, I might feel differently tomorrow." - RiR

RiR,

I am interested in your thought tommorrow...

I have interest in a couple of energy stocks, RIG and DO, in particular.....

I am thinking its a bubble due to speculation, wondering about popping...

I love RIG. It's one of my five faves. And I don't really see it falling apart even if oil comes down--though that WOULD be true of the integrateds, the alt fuels stocks. That's the logical part of me, though--if the oil complex drops $30 a barrel, the whole sector will go down in a blink. Even the SLB's and the HAL's and the RIG's. There's no real scholarship on it, but IMO about 80% of a stock's move is due to emotion, and 20% on valuation.

I'm long Transocean at just under 60, even before the Global Sante Fe deal. I'll probably take some off, just because. More downside risk here than up. Still, they reported a monster number, just this morning. You have to keep a position, though, seems to me. They've a virtual monopoly in the space.

love RIG. It's one of my five faves. And I don't really see it falling apart even if oil comes down--though that WOULD be true of the integrateds, the alt fuels stocks. That's the logical part of me, though--if the oil complex drops $30 a barrel, the whole sector will go down in a blink. Even the SLB's and the HAL's and the RIG's. There's no real scholarship on it, but IMO about 80% of a stock's move is due to emotion, and 20% on valuation.

I'm long Transocean at just under 60, even before the Global Sante Fe deal. I'll probably take some off, just because. More downside risk here than up. Still, they reported a monster number, just this morning. You have to keep a position, though, seems to me. They've a virtual monopoly in the space.


I love it even more. But then, I'm part of the ESPP and get it at a 15% discount of the lower of the first and last of the year. I've been putting aside 20% of my salary towards it for a while. Last year I got it for $67/sh. You know what it is today.

I am thinking its a bubble due to speculation, wondering about popping

I never give advice on stock, but I suggest you check out contracts and day rates vs 5 years ago and speculative rig and drill ship building. Also check out the future of exploration and consider that TOI does only deepwater drilling. Then make your decision on RIG

An oil price of $200 per barrel is a real possibility in the next two years, Goldman Sachs

Wow! So the federal reserves plan to increase inflation by almost 100% in the next 2 years.

Boy, that is printing alot of money, wonder how our wages are going to do in this rise?

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