No shit.

Mission Accomplished!

"As you know, you have to go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want."
Donald "The Don" Rumsfeld
[12/9/04]

Yet president nitwit said we'd fight this war at a time of our choosing...

We're Overstretched



"Yes, you are!", Captain Obvious.

Leading to an interesting question: What if we had a REAL enemy? What if that enemy, for some reason I cannot begin to fathom, attacked us? How willing would our army NOW be to put up a fight? Bad Bush Choice No. 3,256. herm

AMEN, herm. But if we don't have a faux enemy, you know...one who never attacked us and couldn't...how else then can the Deciderer Administration manipulate the populace into voting for McBush?

Don't these lib whiners ever give it a rest?

Ask Shrub if he gives shit?

Shrub is overstretched at his job, which he barely remembers to show up for.

How do you add 13,000 Special Forces soldiers? If you want them to be "special" you don't just find 13,000 of them.

Unless they start sending everyone (with incentives) that passes Ranger School in to one of the 3 new units I don't see how it's possible.

Yesterday, Bush's press secretary said that when He made the Statement 'Mission Accomplished' he was only talking about that particular ship and crew on that particular mission.

More of the same from the master of Newspeak.

It doesn't sound like their overstretched, so much as their efforts are being concentrated in a specific area, rather than all over the place. This doesn't strike me as a problem, really.

"It doesn't sound like their overstretched, so much as their efforts are being concentrated in a specific area, rather than all over the place. This doesn't strike me as a problem, really."

Yeah because everyone else around the world took a "time out" from being fucktards in order to let the US focus on Iraq?

Please get a reality check.

"Top US Commando: We're Overstretched"

They should have heeded the primary rule the Viking's lived by before they pillaged and plundered: Never overstretch; especially the hamstrings.

Furio,

I presume that this simply means a couple drug dealers in Nicaragua will have an easy time of it for a while. Since we never have enough special-ops guys to chase them all down anyway, I don't really see the big deal. We always put them where they're most needed. We never have enough of them. What's the big deal?

As in the past, anyone who criticizes the stellar leadership of our Commander-in-Chief was soon pushed aside.

The career of Adm. Eric T. Olson is now over.

"As you know, you have to go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want."
Donald "The Don" Rumsfeld
[12/9/04]

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Do you go through life with what you have or are you sitting on the bench wating for the 'big thing' to plant itself in your back pocket?

SOP for Bushco is to turn all mobile military forces into complete burnout cases. Until the entire US military is at the breaking point and a new total must do affair is on us "The Shrub" and his "Dick" will not be happy.

"Don't these lib whiners ever give it a rest?"

I presume that's the best rebuttal you can offer. herm

We'll give it a rest when you give our over-burdened military a rest.

Note: Not ONE Con here expressed any concern with an overstretched military, either for the troops involved or the national security implications.

Keith,

Professional, volunteer armies don't really burn out provided their own normal rotations. The military is a bit too small right now, so things are tough, but professional, volunteer soldiers are much more willingly deployed than draftees, so in the long-term, this isn't really an issue.

Yesterday, Bush's press secretary said that when He made the Statement 'Mission Accomplished' he was only talking about that particular ship and crew on that particular mission.

More of the same from the master of Newspeak.

Posted by Lipzoidial at 2008-05-06 10:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

I saw that same thing on TV the other day.

The weirdest past is that the Carrier was a few miles off the coast of San Diego, meaning that this particular ship would have had to leave the Gulf weeks earlier. That means Mission Accomplished actually happened several weeks prior to that ship arriving of the Cali coast which means if left the Gulf when the war started.

*if left = it left

"I presume that this simply means a couple drug dealers in Nicaragua will have an easy time of it for a while."

Jon,

You have an amazingly naive knowledge of what goes on down in Latin America. You do know of the variety of insurgents in Colombia and revolutionaries all over the place? How about Venezuela's threats to Colombia as well? Let alone Nicaragua's problems. American special forces are doing far more training and spec ops against guerillas than drug dealers.

Furio,
You talk "naive" and then consider Venezuela's threats to Columbia to be anything more than idle chatter?
Columbia would fuck up Venezuela 6 ways from Sunday.

The SpecOps community is railed against by liberals exactly for the work they're doing in South America.
The School of Americas ring a bell?

101Chairborne,

Who do you think train Colombia's (not ColUmbia) forces? As for the School of Americas, yeah they trained some assholes which caused more problems. But to say US Speical forces are not heavily involved there is a joke. The US has always considered it it's sphere of influence. You do remember the Monroe Doctrine?

Furio,
I never weighed in on whether or not the SF community's absence would be detrimental to South America. I only commented on your Colombian/Venezuelan scenario, and then mentioned how most any other time Liberals would be screeching about their presence in South America.

There have been numerous threads on it. If you're an archiver or handy with the google you can see for yourself.

"I only commented on your Colombian/Venezuelan scenario, and then mentioned how most any other time Liberals would be screeching about their presence in South America."


Ah that's right anyone who thinks Iraq is a completely useless and expensive adventure for the US and feels Bush is a butt nugget must be a bleeding liberal pussy. I see you're also a kneejerk wad who is cheering on McCain even though socially you seem to be against everything he stands for while he is also planning on following the Bush economic policy which is a proven fuckup. You are far more of a sterotypical right of center drone than many of the so called Liburals here.

Ah that's right anyone who thinks Iraq is a completely useless and expensive adventure for the US and feels Bush is a butt nugget must be a bleeding liberal pussy. I see you're also a kneejerk wad who is cheering on McCain even though socially you seem to be against everything he stands for while he is also planning on following the Bush economic policy which is a proven fuckup. You are far more of a sterotypical right of center drone than many of the so called Liburals here.

Posted by furio at 2008-05-06 02:30 PM | Reply


How in the fuck do you take my comments to you in regards to the school of americas and Colombia in to anything about Bush or Iraq you fucking retard?

If you don't believe that the ones crying about the school of americas are liberals then I could give a fuck. They sure weren't the conservative posters douchebag.

Furio,

And how is anything in Columbia remotely as important as the theater in Iraq? I don't understand the sudden critical nature of Columbia...If Columbia were critical, we'd have 150,000 guys there, not in Iraq....We don't, for good reason....it's not nearly as important as Iraq....Why is it a problem that our deployment of spec ops forces also match this priority?

Naive knowledge is an interesting word combination, though. Kinda like fascist and conservative.....

Jon,

One word about Colombia. Oil.

Apparently, we're entitled to a "sphere of influence" that extends to another continent (if not the whole world), yet Iran cannot be permitted to "interfere" with a country with which it shares a border and which killed millions of its citizens in a US-backed war of aggression barely two decades ago.

Interesting. I'm not suggesting that Iran SHOULD interfere, nor that it, perhaps, shouldn't be stopped from interfering. I'm just wondering why we think we're entitled to do whatever we please, wherever we please, whenever we please...

tell our so called alies to support our efforts or
bring back the draft and quit the back door phoniness

Somehow, I am confident that we will muddle through. But it's looking more and lore likely that an national draft / national service requirement will become a requirement for all Americans, rich or poor, over the next 10 years. And, know what, that probably won't be such a bad thing. It will at least require the President and Congress to be much more prudent and circumspect before authorizing wars in the future.

(Btw, if I were to write up laws regarding mandatory national service, I would include 3+ years any public sector job as an acceptable substitute for military service, and I would tie future eligibility for certain tax breaks and perhaps for Medicare (or at least a Medicare threshold limit) to having successfully completed those 3 years of public service before reaching 40 years of age. The benefits: 1. no one except the handicapped would be exempt, therefore a demand to compete for public sector work and military service would be increased; 2. fire departments, EMS, and police departments, and Americorps and the Peace Corps and public schools would see the pool of applicants increase for those positions, increasing the quality of applicants; 3. common training would ease the growing class barriers throughout society and leade all to realize that freedom isn't free, and that you don't get a military and public services for nothing -- it takes people to do all of the jobs we have.)

"And how is anything in Columbia remotely as important as the theater in Iraq?"

Well, it might be all the drugs which come here from there. But, yeah, no oil, so it's not as important. And who cares about the damage drugs do. After all, people can just say "no" and the drugs will stop appearing. And druggies deserve what happens to them cause they have no self-control.

Don't these lib whiners ever give it a rest?

Posted by reinheitsgebot

As long as the stupidity prevails? No. I know you're not used to it, but welcome to intelligent discourse.

Don't these lib whiners ever give it a rest?

Posted by reinheitsgebot

As long as the stupidity prevails? No. I know you're not used to it, but welcome to intelligent discourse.

It was a wisecrack intended to portray Adm. Olson, a former Navy SEAL, as a whiny lib. It looks like you and others missed the sarcasm.

How many posters have used conservative ineptitude to slam liberals? Talk about denial. You assholes shouldn't be allowed to vote or reproduce. Mandatory abortion for pregnant conservative women. Let's stop the spread of the disgusting disease that is modern conservatism.

JonRyker:
another word about Columbia: coca.