Squeaky wheel gets th' grease.

Glad to hear Walmart employees can now afford their meds.

Will the pills be stuffed by Pakistani eight-year-olds paid 13 cents an hour? herm

Wall mart has now become a legal drug pusher, how interesting.

My gosh. They complain when prices are too high. They complain when they are too low. This country is overwhelmed by economic illiterates who won't settle for anything more than free. No wonder it's collapsing.

My gosh. They complain when prices are too high. They complain when they are too low. This country is overwhelmed by economic illiterates who won't settle for anything more than free. No wonder it's collapsing.

Yep, right on Que, you have it all in proper context and perspective!

Actually this exposes the real cost of generics, and you don't have to go to Pakistan for labor because the jars are packed by machines.

The drug companies fiddle with their formulas to come up a new "patent" and then sell it on TV. NSAIDs are a good example. I prefer a generic because by the time the patent runs out you know whether or not it's effective and safe. Let the early adopters do the "food" testing.

Gee, I wonder if Walmart negotiates with drug companies for better prices???? Shouldn't they be restricted by law as Medicare is to pay whatever price the drug criminals ask for???":

Ozark,

Actually this really exposes the criminal cabal of drug pricing in America where something that could be sold for $4 is sold to insurance plans for $60.

Next time you pay your health insurance premium think of all the wonderful celebrity drug pushers you see on television and remind yourself how they "earned" that money pushing a drug on you.

Danni,

Don't be so naive. Only communists would demand our government negotiate for the best price on a product provided by such generous campaign donors.

It is much better to let the drug companies tell us what we are going to pay.

Wal Mart has wonderful economies of scale and buying power. Those economies really benefit the poor and working class in terms of lower prices. The democrat party would love to do what Wal Mart does but can't figure out how.

Another reason I love Wal Mart is that libs hate it. I do all my shopping at Wal Mart. If I can't find it at Wal Mart, I don't need it.

The democrat party would love to do what Wal Mart does but can't figure out how.


Yes and the right wing retards that crafted the Medicare Drug Bill had even greater economies of scale and bargaining power and they sold it out to Big Pharm and let them right the law that says the government cannot negotiate and that it is now illegal to buy drugs from Canada.

Maybe the democrats cannot figure out how, but the cons sold us out to big business.

right = write.

Damn.

"Another reason I love Wal Mart is that libs hate it. I do all my shopping at Wal Mart. If I can't find it at Wal Mart, I don't need it."

Look up the word "tool" in your Webster's Unabridged. (You DO have a dictionary?) You'll find Far West Thom's picture illustrating it. herm

Wal Mart has wonderful economies of scale and buying power. Those economies really benefit the poor and working class in terms of lower prices. The democrat party would love to do what Wal Mart does but can't figure out how.

EXACTLY! This is so true. For this reason I've never understood why the left hates WalMart so much. I guess they'd rather have smaller economies of scale without so much buying power so that the poor have to pay 10%-15% more for their goods.

Why does the left hate the poor?

Another reason I love Wal Mart is that libs hate it.

where do righties come up with this crap? is it projection?

In the country of its birth, Wal-Mart is wrecking havoc with worker
standards of living. It forces other large grocery chains to demand from
their unionized employees lower wages and benefits to be able to compete
with Wall-Mart's race to the bottom. This direction is a historically tragic
reverse for the U.S. economy that before World War II featured rising wages
that increased consumer demand and improved livelihoods.

Increasingly, Wal-Mart's immense arc of influence here is pushing wages and
benefits downward. With hundreds of thousands of its nearly 1.4 million
workers making under $7.50 an hour, before payroll deductions, (the average
wage is between $7.50 and $8.50 an hour), the average-on-the-clock workweek
is only 32 hours. Since Wal-Mart defines anyone working fewer than 34 hours
per week as part-time, they have to wait for two years before qualifying for
health insurance whose co-payment takes one-fifth of the average paycheck.
Get the idea of what is meant by the Wal-Mart way.

Waiting periods are key to Wal-Mart's phony health insurance boasting in
their television ads. Impoverished employees dont stay, with turnover rates
for these hourly employees at 50 percent to 100 percent at many stores.

Wal-Mart is devilishly ingenious in thinking up ways to have taxpayers fill
in its wage gap. Put them on partial welfare, says the very well paid
company bosses who make millions of dollars each per year. These workers are
given advice on how to apply so that taxpayers subsidize Wal-Marts profits.

For example, in Georgia, over 10, 261 children of Wal-Mart employees are
enrolled in the states Peachcare program for health insurance in families
meeting federal poverty criteria.

According to the report, Everyday Low Wages, one 200-person Wal-Mart store
could cost federal taxpayers over $420,000 per year. These costs include
subsidized lunches, health insurance and housing assistance, federal tax
credits and deductions for low-income families, among other examples of
Wal-Mart's freeloading.

Enough is never enough for this corporation. It often demands substantial
local tax breaks from municipalities as a condition for locating there.
Although successful local opposition is blocking dozens of Wal-Mart location
plans, this corporate welfare King still manages to escape its fair share of
taxes, while local home owner and small businesses ante up for local public
services and assume Wal-Mart's share. That is, small businesses that manages
to remain in the hollowed out Main Streets that are the aftermath of a
Wal-Mart opening. Minimal thinking by consumers say Wal-Mart is a bargain;
maximum thinking starts adding up the local, national and global costs of
this Goliath depressor of purchasing power by workers.

celebrity drug pushers you see on television and remind yourself how they "earned" that money pushing a drug on you.


I think Bob Dole paid Viagra just so he could get on the tube and remind people he isn't dead. Expect to see John McBush doing commercials for scented candles that mellow you out. " If that cunt Cindi had used more Glade THC candles, maybe I would have been President".

And Goat-walk around walmart and see where their products are made. maybe if places like walmart bought from America, there wouldn't be so many poor?

So, tell me again why cheap drugs is bad? Is it just because its provided by capitalists?

I'll not deny that WalMart employees get fucked. But OTOH, there are a couple of magnitudes more people who benefit from the cost savings. So it sounds like the left would rather that thousands of WalMart employees get better wages and the millions of poor who benefit from it pay higher prices.

Why does the left favor a few over the many?

Why does the left favor a few over the many?

where do righties come up with this crap? is it projection?

Why does the left favor a few over the many?

where do righties come up with this crap? is it projection?

So gee Goatman, if only those Walmart employees could be slaves then we could save even more. Hey, from what I've been reading....a lot of the crap on Walmart shelves actually was produced with slave or near-slave labor. Yay for America's store!

cheaper drugs=good
people having a job provided by walmart=good
walmart driving down prices wherever one exists=good

it isn't a left/right thing. i really dont understand objections people can come up with against walmart.

If Wal Mart exploited it's workers, then why do 25,000 people show up to apply for 250 jobs when Wal Nart opens a new store?

Thom the Wal Mart lover

So gee Goatman, if only those Walmart employees could be slaves then we could save even more.

That's true, Danni, but slavery was outlawed in 1861. WalMart must work in the confines of current labor laws. And they do. So, sorry, your slavery suggestion will not work in America.

Gee, I wonder if Walmart negotiates with drug companies for better prices???? Shouldn't they be restricted by law as Medicare is to pay whatever price the drug criminals ask for???":

Posted by danni

I guess you want to pay the price your government has negoiated for the drugs which is a lot more than what Wally World is selling them for. Go big government, go.

I've been reading....a lot of the crap on Walmart shelves actually was produced with slave or near-slave labor. Yay for America's store!

If that bugs you, Danni, don't shop there. That is what is so cool about our country. If we do not want to buy products made with slave or near-slave labor, we don't have to! Isn't it great to have options and the ability to "vote" with your checkbook?

What is so cool about Wal-Mart is that they go into a small town build a store on each end. Then like a weed they choke out the competition. Once all the local store go belly up they close one of the stores.

Awesome!

People like Danni bitch about jobs going overseas and goods from China being brought here. I don't know why it is such a difficult economic conept to understand: We can make the same goods competively here just as well as China can.

But here's the rub, Danni: Americans don't want to live like the Chinese. They want to live much better. That takes more money. More money means higher wages. Higher wages mean more expensive goods.

Got it?

Will Wal-Mart still keep the prices below cost when 90% of the population is forced to buy there or go without, because there is no other reasonable choice?

Wal-Mart will cut the throat of the competition, one industry at a time, for as long as we let them.

Got it?

Posted by goatman

Damn, I didn't realize the explanation was that simple. That's good.

Actually this really exposes the criminal cabal of drug pricing in America where something that could be sold for $4 is sold to insurance plans for $60.

For my health plan (Blue Cross HSA/HDHP), I pay negotiated rates for all my prescriptions. On each of my health statements, I see a breakdown of billed vs. negotiated prices. I suspect most plans work this way. For example, Rite Aid charges $36.00 for a month's supply of one of my prescriptions and my negotiated rate is about $8.00. I should also add, one of the nice things about an HSA/HDHP is that even though I pay $8.00 for the Rx, $36.00 is applied towards the deductible

I believe the only people who pay full price for health care and prescriptions are the uninsured.

"If Wal Mart exploited it's workers, then why do 25,000 people show up to apply for 250 jobs when Wal Nart opens a new store?"

That's capitalism's finest moment. Piss away the economy to make yourself rich, and then you have a passel of people willing to make do for 17 cents an hour so that can buy beans for their brood. This is what the one-time world's leading society has come to. herm

Has anyone here gotten their scripts filled at Wal-Mart?

Wal-Mart employees are modern day corporate slaves. Just like many other people who work for a corporation in the US.

Our government works for corporations, not its people. Sort of like fascism.

Health care in this country sucks, and pharmacies are the canary in the mine-field. The sole reason that drugs cost so much money? The FDA? Maybe? But its the insurance companies and their back door deals with drug companies including Medicare and Medicaid.

Big industry came into my neighborhood.

They wiped out all the little guys.

Nobody complained.

The neighborhood cheered about the cheaper prices.


---signed, the teenagers who wanted to cut your lawn, bring your groceries to your door, deliver newspapers, shovel the snow, babysit kids after school, walk you dogs...............

....people willing to make do for 17 cents an hour .....

Posted by herm at 2008-05-06 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're as stupid as the rest of your family claims. No wonder they have disowned you and beg you to remove them from your email lists. Those closest to you disowned you.....they know you best and have good reason....think about it asshole.

The pharmacist at my Wal-Mart informed me of a similar drug to the one I was about to pay $110 for. The rice of the similar drug: $6. I took his advice and had my doctor call in the other prescription.

While I may disagree with some Wal-Mart decisions from the top, that doesn't mean I think the people who work or shop at Wal-Mart are all tools.

WalMart must work in the confines of current labor laws. And they do. />

Except when they don't. I seem to remember Walmart using illegals for night clean up and locking them in the store overnight.

An internal audit now under court seal warned top executives at Wal-Mart Stores three years ago that employee records at 128 stores pointed to extensive violations of child-labor laws and state regulations requiring time for breaks and meals.

The audit of one week's time-clock records for roughly 25,000 employees found 1,371 instances in which minors apparently worked too late at night, worked during school hours or worked too many hours in a day. It also found 60,767 apparent instances of workers not taking breaks, and 15,705 apparent instances of employees working through meal times.

Wal-Mart Agrees to $11 Million Settlement in Illegal Foreign Janitors' Class Action Lawsuit Holding Wal-Mart Liable for Its Contract Janitorial Firms' Violations of Federal Immigration and Labor Laws. (Zavala et.al. v. Walmart Stores, Inc. , U.S. D.Ct. D. N.J.) settled March 18, 2005). The illegal immigrant janitors were employed by Wal-Mart's contract janitorial services companies. Wal-Mart was liable as a joint employer with 12 contract janitorial services firms. The janitorial firms were charged with criminal violations and were fined $4 million.

$22 Million Settlement for 2,000 Illegal Immigrant Contract Janitors in Federal Class Action Lawsuit Charging National Supermarkets and their Subcontractor Cleaning Companies with FLSA Violations. (Florex v. Albertson's. et. al. , U.S. D.Ct., C.D., Cal. Jan 26, 2005)

Ride On, another fountain of rightie wisdom, rides somewhat illiterately but I think he/she misread a posting of a few days ago in which a rightie on my spam list responded just as illiterately to a May Day greeting I sent the 'nays" and my relatives. My relatives ALL loved it. Now other than calling your intellectual superiors stupid, Ride On, do you have anything substantial? herm

I was waiting to have my oil changed at Wal Mart and as I was walking down the toothpaste aisle when I saw this really cute Asian woman. Quickly, I grabbed a tube and asked her if she thought it was a good brand. We ended up talking for about an hour and she gave me her phone number. I was in heaven. Wal Mart is a great place to not only shop and work but also a great place to pick up women. Later I went home, forgot about the note and my pants went throiugh the washer.

Later I went home, forgot about the note and my pants went throiugh the washer.


If you hadn't pissed yourself at the thought of talking to a woman, that wouldn't have happened.

Only on this site could you find a bunch of lefties talking about how wal-mart offering $10 90-day supplies of prescription drugs is a bad thing.

The cost of healthcare is too high. But when Wal-Mart offers an affordable option, that's not good enough either. Fucking pathetic.

Only on this site could you find a bunch of lefties talking about how wal-mart offering $10 90-day supplies of prescription drugs is a bad thing.

If Wal-Mart is doing it because they genuinely care about the cost of health care it wouldn't be a bad thing at all. Since Wal-Mart is simply using med's as a lost leader to attract customers away from competition that can't afford such a ploy, in turn eventually putting said competition out of business, only someone with blinders on could see this as a good thing for everyone.

I'll agree with YOU about your statement though. Fucking pathetic. BTW, is "Fucking pathetic" a legal term? I think you should try it in front of a Judge and see how it goes.

"BTW, is "Fucking pathetic" a legal term? I think you should try it in front of a Judge and see how it goes."

What a douchebag. Do you say the same thing to Montecore when he comes to the site and talks about buttplugs and Chicken BallNuggets? Anyone who feels such a constant need to whine about someone's personal life isn't worth another second of my time.

Why would you link to a thread I never posted in? I'm sure if whatever quote you're talking about was placed in context (or if you just thought about it for a minute), you'd realize I do more at the retort than "practice legal debate."

I don't have a problem with people knowing I'm a law student. I do have a problem with dumbshits like you bringing it up at every turn, as if I'm supposed to be conducting myself as a lawyer 100% of the time, even on an anonymous internet site.

Back on topic, what makes you think that you "know" Wal-Mart is only offering cheap prescriptions to undercut smaller retailers? Have you sat in on their board meetings? Do you have a link to any real information that would suggest that? Or are you just guessing? Wal-Mart has taken plenty of "progressive" initiatives over the last few years, including making their stores environmentally friendly.

Big Oil Companies raising gas prices "Those gready BASTARDS!!!"

Wal-Mart Lowering drug prices "Those gready BASTARDS!!!"

Why would you link to a thread I never posted in?

The link demonstrates that one of your friends mentioned it.

what makes you think that you "know" Wal-Mart is only offering cheap prescriptions to undercut smaller retailers?

What makes you think that you "know" Wal-Mart is being benevolent? Although I don't do business on Wal-Marts level, I do understand business. If I were running Wal-Mart, I would do the same thing. Any advantage within the law is what it is. Wal-Mart does NOTHING out of sheer benevolence. Their corporate charter really doesn't allow it. Everything they do is supposed to be for the benefit of their bottom line, or shareholder value, within the law. If they've made their stores "environmentally friendly", it's because they see some eventual financial benefit.

I do have a problem with dumbshits like you bringing it up at every turn

If you wish to continue flinging feces like your brethren, I'm done.

"The link demonstrates that one of your friends mentioned it."

Rode One is hardly my "friend."

"What makes you think that you "know" Wal-Mart is being benevolent?"

Given their recent progressive stances on multiple issues, I'd give the the benefit of the doubt. You don't know anything about their corporate charter. You are making assumptions. They spend money being green out of benevolence. What makes you think they don't want to sell prescription drugs at a cut rate for the same reason?

"If you wish to continue flinging feces like your brethren, I'm done."

Says the guy who brought up my personal life in his very first post.

The point is that if Wal-Mart raised drug prices, all the lefties here would bash them for being greedy capitalist pigs. If Wal-Mart lowers their drug prices to $3 a month, they get the same shit from the same lefties. It's a lose-lose for them, no matter what they do. If they gave the drugs away for free, you'd probably be saying the same shit.

"You don't know anything about their corporate charter. "

Bullshit. All modern corporate charters require the maximization of shareholder value. One would think that a law student would know that.

"Bullshit. All modern corporate charters require the maximization of shareholder value."

And many large corporations give millions of dollars to charity every year. That doesn't "maximize shareholder value," but they do it anyway. One would think even a moron like you would know that, but apparently you don't.

"And many large corporations give millions of dollars to charity every year. That doesn't "maximize shareholder value," but they do it anyway. One would think even a moron like you would know that, but apparently you don't."
Posted by JOE

You're an idiot, as well as a Walmart bootlicker. That's called PR, something all corporations do. And Walmart needs all the good PR it can get.

So...

You admit that large corporations do charitable things (even if it's for PR's sake), yet there's no way wal-mart could be selling cheap drugs for charitable reasons because it's against their corporate charter. Thanks for the insight.

Joe it is easy to see even for Moi why WalMart is offering lower priced drugs and it's not for charitable reasons. They lower the price of the drugs which makes people THINK they care about people. The people mistaken their charitability and go to WalMart and get their prescriptions filled. While they have You in their stores You decide to shop there for their higher priced merchandise and then they make out like bandits. I can not believe You don't get THAT Joe.

Larry Mohr

Bottom line - there are millions of Americans who struggle to pay for their prescriptions, and Wal-Mart is now offering them at a price that those low-income people can afford. If you can't appreciate that at face value, there's something wrong with you. The fact that liberals constantly complain about the price of healthcare in our country, but then feel as though they need to rip wal-mart for selling cheap prescriptions simply because they are wal-mart, is really pathetic.

"You admit that large corporations do charitable things (even if it's for PR's sake), yet there's no way wal-mart could be selling cheap drugs for charitable reasons because it's against their corporate charter. Thanks for the insight."

You sure are dumb. Corporations engage in PR to enhance their bottom line over the long term. You think they actually like burning money running advertisements telling what great corporate citizens they are?

"Americans don't want to live like the Chinese. They want to live much better. That takes more money. More money means higher wages. Higher wages mean more expensive goods."

Unless I misread Goateeconomy, paying Chinese wages (13 cents an hour if you haven't hit puberty) will put more bread on American working families' tables. Actually when we learn to say yes massa in fluent Mandarin Bush's economic policies will have achieved their goal. herm

Can we agree that Wal-Mart uses a P.R. ploy in trying to improve its public image? You'll not catch ME in Wal-Mart, but if you can save a nfew med bucks on the loss (NOT lost) leaders and not buy the cheap imported plastic crap, I say have at it. herm

So you've essentially made it impossible for any corporation to engage in charitable acts because any time they do, you can say they are just trying to look good. I'm glad you know what's in the hearts and minds of the thousands of leaders of every American corporation, big or small. That also explains the thousands of pages of material created by the the Internal Revenue Service dedicated to outlining the tax consequences of charitable contributions made by corporations. If it's never really "charitable," perhaps you should notify the IRS - they could be bringing in billions in extra revenue every year.

"So you've essentially made it impossible for any corporation to engage in charitable acts because any time they do, you can say they are just trying to look good."

Joe, Joe Joe :I hope you agree that corporations are run by computers. Computers are programmed for maximal profit. They lack "niceness" chips. Let me assure you - well, hell, I probably can't - NO corporation can get into heaven.

Corporations may have the rights and privileges of people in court, Joe, but they give up on heaven. herm

It's always great to see how lefties really view all american corporations. Thank you for your insight, herm. Corporations are run by human beings, whether you choose to delude yourself into thinking otherwise or not. Do you feel the same way about small corporations? If not, what is the cutoff?

"Corporations are run by human beings..."

Joe, I think you're pissing up a rope, but argue if you want to. Yes, corporations are run by people. Corporations exist to maximize profits for shareholders. The people who run them may give the occasional buck to the Salvation Army or Red Cross, but they better do what computers programed to maximize profits tell them to do, or they'll get their stock options somewhere else. Computers, whether the firm is large or small, simply do not take "niceness" into account. I don't know how else I can phrase this, Joe, but leftie or rightie has nothing to do with it. herm

I love corporations; that's where most of my capital is invested. I made $9000 in the market today. Wal Mart is my favorite corporation.

Now that Wal Mart has sucessfully provided cheap prescription drugs for poor and working class people, they should think about opening medical clinics in their stores and providing physical exams for $14.00. Libs would still bitch though.

Herm forgets that some corporations target their holdings toward people who have a conscience, and thereby do "good" things to accomplish that end. As usual, there's no use in explaining anything economic to a liberal.

"As usual, there's no use in explaining anything economic to a liberal."

I'll tell George Soros.....

BTW, them brilliant conservatives sure ran the American economy great huh????
How much you lose on your house today???
How much is that dollar worth???
How big is that deficit???

"And many large corporations give millions of dollars to charity every year. That doesn't "maximize shareholder value," but they do it anyway. One would think even a moron like you would know that, but apparently you don't."
Posted by JOE

You're an idiot, as well as a Walmart bootlicker. That's called PR, something all corporations do. And Walmart needs all the good PR it can get.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-05-06 07:26 PM

Danni-

Politicians don't control the price of your home. If you elect Barack Obama, your house will not be worth more because of that. I can't believe any adult actually thinks the way that you do.