"Describe the following in one sentence or less"

Recruiting numbers for the Navy Seals was up this week...

"Mission Accomplished"

"Describe the following in one sentence or less".

Yo quiero Agua Bell

"Describe the following in one sentence or less".

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Fucking wetbacks!

"Describe the following in one sentence or less"

To boldly go where no Britney Spears' OB/GYN has gone before.

The BIGGEST news that hardly anyone is talking about is the collapsing of the American economy. Waiting for the day when posters are saying "we didn't see it coming."

Waiting for the day when posters are saying "we didn't see it coming.

Better than waiting for the day it may come.

Better than waiting for the day it may come.

Posted by goatman at 2008-05-03 12:52

It's already here, building up to full force. Are your ready?

It's (the collapse of the American economy) already here, building up to full force. Are your ready?

I didn't know that. I haven't turned on the news yet today, though.

It must be awful leading a life where all you do is wait for doom and gloom. Personally, I have a 1:5 chance of dying slowly of cancer. I have a 1:3 chance of falling and breaking my hip after I'm 57 YO. I have a 1:14 chance of dying of diabetes.

But I have a very good chance of enjoying beautiful sunsets, walks on the beach, basking in the joys of watching my granddaughter grow up, eating ethnic foods, traveling, and partaking of my hobbies. I think I'll dwell on those aspects of my life instead of things that may happen -- especially if I have no control over them.

I feel sorry for you Ray. Living under a cloud of such negativity can't be enjoyable.

"Ok ready to go Scoob?", said Shaggy.

I feel sorry for you Ray. Living under a cloud of such negativity can't be enjoyable.

You go right ahead, Goat, and believe the economy-is-sound bullshit coming from the mainstream media. I'm very comfortable enjoying life knowing I won't be blind sided like you. Thank you.

There is a saying in Proverbs "A prudent man sees danger and gets out of the way. The simple go on ahead and suffer for it."

You go right ahead, Goat, and believe the economy-is-sound bullshit coming from the mainstream media.

Did I say that? Does quote fabrication go along with that negativity you harbor?

I'm very comfortable enjoying life knowing I won't be blind sided like you.

I didn't know that you had privy to my finanial portfolio and investments. How did you do this? Did you hack my passwords into my various accounts or what?

Since I know you are hostile to gold and silver, that leaves real estate, stocks and bonds. Sure to be wiped out by inflation, deflation and depression. Fortunately for you, your job is sound.

Arguing over this now is fruitless. We've placed our bets. Hang around for the next few years.

Since I know you are hostile to gold...

You mean that stuff that has lost 16% -17% of its value in the last couple of weeks? I do own some, but like any wise investor, I do not put all my eggs in one basket.

Thanks for the prognostication, Jean Dixon.

that leaves real estate, stocks and bonds

All of those are good investments if you own the right ones.

Goat

You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago. To me this drop is a buying opportunity before prices take off again. And I did plunk down a good bit of change in recent weeks.

It took me decades to understand the fundamentals of markets. Clearly, Washington is on a spending frenzy adding to unfathomable amounts of debt and trying to prevent the market from correcting with bailouts. In all economic history, fiat money has always gone to its intrinsic value of zero. They won't succeed.

Become a commodities buyer. With the increase in world population and increasing affluence of previously depressed areas, there are more consumers and a relatively stable supply of commodities, so the prices of these items will escalate. If the governments intervene, however, all bets are off.

Hey wait, invest in sailing ships as wind power will replace other forms of energy for transport of goods. Imagine the irony. An oil tanker propelled across the ocean by wind.

For this advice, you may send my fee to ...

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Posted by goatman


One more time-The name of the game and the rules are the same.

Describe the following in one sentence or less.

If it doesn't say no, then....

All of those are good investments if you own the right ones.

Posted by goatman

Real inflation is in the area of 12% and going higher. It may look like you are ahead in nominal numbers. But when you subtract 12% you are probably losing.

Describe in one sentence -

Man in photo says to woman, "When you said your moss phlox was in bloom I thought you were contagious so I brought some condoms."

"Describe the following in one sentence or less".


Yes, Yes, I think the mushrooms are defintely kicking in!

You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago.

Oh, so not only does Ray have privy to my portfolio and can verbally trash it, he now has access to my very thoughts and knowledge.

Hacking into my accounts may be possible, but you don't know shit about what's inside my head you condescending asshole.

I will tell you this, though: I knew more about what's important in life when I szs 3 than you'll ever know in your entire life. Here's something that'll make your life less miserable: Focus on the good things in life (hint: It's not piles of gold)

Hey wait, invest in sailing ships as wind power will replace other forms of energy for transport of goods

Johnson: I did read an article a few months ago about a prototype sailing merchant vessel. It used a giant kite and to augment the main engines. It was interesting. Did you read the same article?

Real inflation is in the area of 12% and going higher. It may look like you are ahead in nominal numbers. But when you subtract 12% you are probably losing.

My experience in life is that people like you have no idea what they are talking about, Ray. People who do know what they are talking about give their advice and bow out. Those who keep harping and harping on the same old shit day after day after boring day are usually trying to impress someone with their "knowledge" but in reality have no or little idea what they are talking about. You strike me as the latter. Your prognostications and financial advice are so sickeningly overplayed, that I could never trust you.

If you had put your stuff out once or twice then stepped back you would've been much more believable. Your egomaniacal condescension (e.g. "You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago") doesn't help your case one bit either.

The Goat is getting defensive. Pride comes before the fall.

The Goat is getting defensive. Pride comes before the fall.

This kind of pride?

You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago.

LOL.

Watch that hip. They break easily during a fall in men your age. 1:3 chance AAMOF

"Describe the following in one sentence or less".


All this can be yours, if you vote for Hillary.

Unlike an ignoramus like you, I know what I know. If you don't like my prognostications, then don't engage me.

Unlike an ignoramus like you, I know what I know.
~Popeye

Unlike an ignoramus like you, I know what I know

We'll ignore the condescension as it is irrelevent to the question, but exactly what are you saying? That I don't know what I know? Or that I know what I don't know? Talk about a paradox!

Funny stuff, Ray.

"Describe the following in one sentence or less"."

screwed up the italics

I would gladly argue on market fundamentals, but you are too stupid for that. Hence the condensation.

correction to my 3:41 p.m.

"...or disgard it" = "...or discard it"

I would gladly argue on market fundamentals, but you are too stupid for that. Hence the condensation

Thanks, Ray. We all know what incessant insults regarding someone's intelligence means. Better luck next time, dude.

"Your egomaniacal condescension (e.g. "You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago") doesn't help your case one bit either."

True believers who think their particular school of economics. Austrian, Marxian, Keynesian, etc., is the last word are no different than religious zealots. A non-ideological approach would see that the different models reveal different aspects of reality.

. A non-ideological approach would see that the different models reveal different aspects of reality.

Damn! Something in the air? Two posts in a row I agree with null.

I would gladly argue on market fundamentals, but you are too stupid for that. Hence the condensation.

Are you sweating, ray? Or is that condensation being caused by your hot air?

Again, funny stuff, Ray.

True believers who think their particular school of economics. Austrian, Marxian, Keynesian, etc., is the last word are no different than religious zealots. A non-ideological approach would see that the different models reveal different aspects of reality.

Posted by nullifidian

good point!

"...commericals you hear all the time on tv and the radio and read continually in financial publications Ray isn't out there hawking his own "buy gold here" website ...."

CC

did i mention my (our)50 metric ton deal?



lol

Become a commodities buyer. With the increase in world population and increasing affluence of previously depressed areas, there are more consumers and a relatively stable supply of commodities, so the prices of these items will escalate. If the governments intervene, however, all bets are off.

Hey wait, invest in sailing ships as wind power will replace other forms of energy for transport of goods. Imagine the irony. An oil tanker propelled across the ocean by wind.

For this advice, you may send my fee to ...

Posted by Johnson


damn, the andriod is on to something here...

commericals you hear all the time on tv and the radio and read continually in financial publications Ray isn't out there hawking his own "buy gold here" website

I'm not going to pretend that the small numbers of potential buyers on the DR would make a difference, but the more people that buy gold, (or anything) the higher its price gets.

A non-ideological approach would see that the different models reveal different aspects of reality.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-05-03 03:59

More precisely, a non-idealogical approach explains how markets react to the collective actions of individuals.

It's no different than understanding how an internal combustion engine works. Otherwise your design won't work out as you expect. And when it breaks down, you won't know how to fix it. Or your fix will worsen your problems.

We are witnessing a breakdown in Keynesian and Friedmanite economic theory. Throwing money at the economy is only going to make it worse.

It's no different than understanding how an internal combustion engine works. Otherwise your design won't work out as you expect. And when it breaks down, you won't know how to fix it. Or your fix will worsen your problems.

Still, one must be wise enough to recognize when an internal combustion engine is needed, when a steam turbine engine is needed, when a jet engine or electric motor is needed. There is no one size fits all. Null is right.

This is also what is wrong with blind partisian sheeple who think all left or all right is the only thing that can make this country right, but that's another topic.

Null is right.

Null is a Marxist, you ditz.

Still, one must be wise enough to recognize when an internal combustion engine is needed, when a steam turbine engine is needed, when a jet engine or electric motor is needed. There is no one size fits all.

The laws of physics and thermodynamics apply to all types of engines. Similarly the laws of economics apply to all human behavior.

That's only because it happens to be a subject where you don't agree with Ray.

Actually the first one was on another post that ray wasn't involved in and I would've agreed with null on this one anyway. As you know, I'm not a one size fits all believer in most anything, and that is basically what he was saying.

those two get along was well as Batman and the Joker.

Both look like clowns. My fault for wasting too much time with him.

"Null is a Marxist, you ditz."

No, you ditz, I stated my position above. You are the dogmatist here. Different schools of economics provide different insights, you freakin' zealot.

LET'S GO HAWKS! -- Member

Hey, I thought you were a Pistons fan!

Normally I'd think any Boston loss was a good thing, but I worry that Boston is the only team the Pistons will wake up for if they make it to the Eastern Conference finals.

"Similarly the laws of economics apply to all human behavior."

And Ray knows precisely what those laws are! Just ask him. He's read Von Mises!

Different schools of economics provide different insights, you freakin' zealot.

The laws of economics are universal, ditz. The mainstream schools ignore them.

Both look like clowns.

And the name calling (read, no better retort i.e. admission of defeat) goes on and on and on.

Thanks for the nod, Ray.

And Ray knows precisely what those laws are! Just ask him. He's read Von Mises!

Posted by nullifidian

You have to produce before you can consume. If you consume more than you produce, eventually you will go to the poorhouse. Try to ignore that law.

Money is not wealth. Just ask the citizens of Zimbabwe. Try to ignore that law.

There are limits to how long you borrow above your means. Try to ignore that law.

No nation has EVER been able to make a fiat money system work. Try to ignore that law.

remember when goatie was digessing the fact the Fed is privately owned?:>)

"The laws of economics are universal, ditz. The mainstream schools ignore them."

You're an idiot. Your so-called "laws" are the opinions of a fringe school of economics, Austrian, that is populated by crackpots like yourself.

Thanks for the nod, Ray.

Posted by goatman

At least I can say I've had some fun arguing with Nulli. You're a know-nothing bore.

"You have to produce before you can consume. If you consume more than you produce, eventually you will go to the poorhouse. Try to ignore that law."

No school of economics denies that. Your pretense that only the Austrian school does is just religious zealotry.

I'm not familiar with the Austrian school, and what I'm finding quickly on the web doesn't really distinguish it from Chicago school laissez-faire. Anybody care to explain it?

Your so-called "laws" are the opinions of a fringe school of economics, Austrian, that is populated by crackpots like yourself.

Posted by nullifidian

I just listed a few of them at 4:49. Go ahead and refute them without the stupid name calling. Or do you have nothing else to say.

I took a vacation and stayed for a week in Downieville, CA (on Route 49) and panned on the Yuba River. Found one really nice nugget.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-05-03


Great music in website..made me wish I was there right now:>)

Your so-called "laws" are the opinions of a fringe school of economics,


All economic theories are predicated upon the ability to predict human nature.

There are very few absolutes when talking about economic theory - we are almost always talking about "degrees of change".

"No nation has EVER been able to make a fiat money system work. Try to ignore that law."

That's not a law nor is it historically accurate.

Phoenix,

I am not familiar with Chicago school Laissez Faire.

However, if you google "Von Mises" or, I used to have a link for "afr", you should be able to see it for what it is - SHEER BRILLIANCE!

(I love taking pot-shots at NullOReilly)

I'm not familiar with the Austrian school, and what I'm finding quickly on the web doesn't really distinguish it from Chicago school laissez-faire. Anybody care to explain it?

Posted by Phoenix

The short answer is that market economies are too complex for government intervention without causing negative consequences. The Chicago School does not preach laissez-faire. Go to mises.org.

That's not a law nor is it historically accurate.

Posted by nullifidian

Where is the exception?

"Go ahead and refute them without the stupid name calling. "

What a hypocrite. You've been calling Goatman names all day.

all I know is donald duck trumpie was $5 billion down in 1992 ~ borrowed $65 million from friendly bankers do to a private placement deal for the elite (which he can not speak publicly about) & was $2 billion up by 1994.

Stay on topic.

remember when goatie was digessing the fact the Fed is privately owned?:>)

???

No

You're a know-nothing bore

And the name calling (read, no better retort i.e. admission of defeat) goes on and on and on.

Thanks for the nod, Ray.

But honestly, I really don't think you have any room to drive more nails into your own coffin. But I'll continue accepting your petty insults as your admission of not being able to come up with anything rational -- i.e. defeat.

Goat

Do you really think I give a rats ass what you think? I attempted polite debate and all you did was get offended. Your post at 3:21 is a good example.

Love to stay, but I have a date with my daughter and the grandkids.

Go ahead and refute them without the stupid name calling.

This has to be your funniest post all day, Ray!



You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago.
Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 02:26 PM

Unlike an ignoramus like you,
Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 03:42 PM

but you are too stupid for that. Hence the condensation.
Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 03:55 PM |


Both look like clowns. My fault for wasting too much time with him.
Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 04:35 PM


No, you ditz, ..., you freakin' zealot.
Posted by nullifidian at 2008-05-03 04:38 PM


The laws of economics are universal, ditz.
Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 04:42 PM


You're a know-nothing bore.
Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 04:51 PM |

remember when goatie was digessing the fact the Fed is privately owned?:>)



???


No

Posted by goatman


CC then posted here a legal proof, too:>)

but not this web page, though...

The Federal Reserve is a Private Financial Institution.
globalresearch.ca -- The Court of Appeals, Poole, Circuit Judge, held that federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.

I have a date with my daughter and the grandkids. Posted by Ray

Are you going to let them out of the cellar?

Jeus Christ it's Saturday afternoon and you guys are arguing economics on the Sat Nooner???

Can't we talk about naked chicks or something or does that get your man hole all bunged up?

There are very few absolutes when talking about economic theory

Well, actually there is one: Don't trust Ray

I have a date with my daughter and the grandkids.

Posted by Ray


Have fun, Ray. My boys love spending time with their grandparents; I hope the same is true for you.

I attempted polite debate and all you did was get offended. Your post at 3:21 is a good example.

Maybe in your world condenscension is polite, but not in anyone else's. And check the time stamps. 2:26 precedes 3:21.

Next?


You know about as much about economics as I did 40 years ago.

Posted by Ray at 2008-05-03 02:26 PM

Goat,

Well, actually there is one: Don't trust Ray

Funny!


Seriously though, I am not so sure about that.

Look, I certainly disagree with Ray a fair amount on a variety of issues. However, when it comes to discussing economic theory at the level that he and Nullifidian were discussing - I find myself agreeing with Ray moreso than that Red-bastard Communist Nullifidian.


PS to Goat - You can ignore that "Red-bastard Communist" remark - it's part of an on-going banter that I've had with Null that's lasted close to 2 years now.

Do you really think I give a rats ass what you think

Well, you do keep responding so I'll have to answer "Yes"

Love to stay, but I have a date with my daughter and the grandkids

Plus I'm embarrassed exposing my ass like I've been doing and having my hypocrisies of name calling thrown back at me.

Ray

Can't we talk about naked chicks or something

No. I would just end up going back to my cabin after dinner with my laptop and abuse myself. Talking about baseball and economics diverts my mind.

"I find myself agreeing with Ray moreso than that Red-bastard Communist Nullifidian."


Jeff J makes Mussolini look like a flaming liberal.

Jeff J makes Mussolini look like a flaming liberal.


For some reason that one really drew a chuckle out of me.


I've gotta run - later boys.

"I find myself agreeing with Ray moreso than that Red-bastard Communist Nullifidian."
JeffJ


No shit, you're both lasse fair corporatists

No. I would just end up going back to my cabin after dinner with my laptop and abuse myself. Talking about baseball and economics diverts my mind.

Posted by goatman

lol..so instead you like to bully other bullies in DR with lucid details of their insipid name calling which somehow help you feel superior to them...if possible?

"Can't we talk about naked chicks or something ."

No. I would just end up going back to my cabin after dinner with my laptop and abuse myself. Talking about baseball and economics diverts my mind.

Posted by goatman

I thought any porn sites were filtered out on the rig. (g)

"No shit, you're both lasse fair corporatists

Posted by Zap "


Ray and JeffJ get accurately zapped by Zap!

so instead you like to bully other bullies in DR with lucid details of their insipid name calling which somehow help you feel superior to them...if possible?

no, it doesn't make me feel superior, just vindicated. And my alternative to engaging rosie is usually a book, not bullying bullies

I thought any porn sites were filtered out on the rig. (g)

They are, but I have a 200g hard drive

"I find myself agreeing with Ray moreso than that Red-bastard Communist Nullifidian."

Anyone with a minimum of common sense would do the same. Interesting that many DR posters do the exact opposite. I guess common sense is in short supply in some quarters.

I thought any porn sites were filtered out on the rig. (g)

They are, but I have a 200g hard drive

Posted by goatman


Hard drive?! LOL! Yeah, I am sure it's hard!

Damn, mine is only 160g.

I thought any porn sites were filtered out on the rig. (g)

Plus between a ~60 man crew, we a lot of "training films" (as we called them in the USN. It's DVDs now of course) between us.

oh.

No shit, you're both lasse fair corporatists



Posted by Zap

You mean "laissez-faire" right?

But it is a funny commment. Corporatism is a mild form of fascism, what we are trying to fight. Corporatism is corporations using the government to achieve their ends, the opposite of laissez-faire, system under which companies would sink or swim on their own, no bailouts, no daddy Fed Reserve to give them money.

Plus between a ~60 man crew, we a lot of "training films" (as we called them in the USN. It's DVDs now of course) between us.

Posted by goatman


Training films?! LOL! Well, I am sure that that kind of training is advanced training and not basic training.

I'm not familiar with the Austrian school... Phoenix

www.huppi.com -- Nulli

Tx Nulli. Somehow I'm not surprised that Ray suggests a different site. :-)

Odd to see the claim that mainstream economics is inductive while Austrian is purely deductive. While behavioral economics has been a growth field in the past few years, I've always been amused by many economists' quickness to label any behavior that doesn't conform with their predictions irrational" or "stupid" -- i.e., the theory's correctness is gauged by its internal consistency, not by its empirical support. And certainly empiricists/econometricians are generally viewed as being of lower caste in most top-tier econ depts than theorists are.

The short answer is that market economies are too complex for government intervention without causing negative consequences. -- Ray

Why aren't they too complicated for non-intervention to cause negative consequences?

But it's interesting to think about what constitutes "crackpot" economics. I agree with objections to the Austrians' wholesale rejection of governments and fiat money, but I find the Chicago school's unwillingness to address distributional issues equally objectionable.

Having said that, I also recognize the usefulness of Chicago school econ, and can't get enough of a handle on the Austrian school to tell if there's a "there" there.

Plus between a ~60 man crew, we a lot of "training films" (as we called them in the USN. It's DVDs now of course) between us.

Guess any 'flirt alerts' are pretty lame in comparison to those. (g)

but oil hunting is alive & well, too:>)

You don't have to tell me that. We just got towed to a new location and got here about 4 hours ago. Two days of putting down anchors, two more days of putting down riser, and the drill bit starts eating at the ocean floor again.

Bani are you trying to get GreatZeroLives here to give us a rant on anti-semitism and how great Israel is and how evil her opponents are? It's as if you are trying to invoke him or something.

Israel has tacitly aligned itself with Washington, raising the specter of a war on Iran even if it has to go 'alone with the problem'.

Oh. Again?

It's as if you are trying to invoke him or something.


It's not that. It's been at least a week since we've had the obligatory "we are going to war with Iran" post. Bani is merely doing his job.

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so just in time to "steer" another election...Israel's way?:>)

Posted by Bani


Oh! You are asking for it now! Now you'll get accused (again?) of being a conspiracy theory crackpot and an anti-semite! How dare you question Israel, don't you know that our bestestest ally in the whole world is never wrong?

"Blue Coat Web Filter"

Or maybe blueball web filter?

Or maybe blueball web filter?

LOL. They have a name for the day before we go home: Pussymas eve

"Pussymas eve"

That is damn funny! Pussy is a good gift, no matter the day of the calendar.

That's what those young cabin boy used to be for.

That's what those young cabin boy used to be for.

Most of the stewards are women (I guess that makes the stewardesses) but I'd be damned if I'd stick my dick into any of them. Fucking under-the-bridge trolls. Everyone of them. I'd have to go a lot more than two weeks without any before I engaged any of that shite.

CC, no. There is a sort of workaround to the filter -- at least for stills. We can google images (e.g. "boobs") and the thumbnails come up. But if we click on the thumbnail we get the filter message.

So you couldn't even pull up those boob pictures on the pastic surgery site link? They weren't the usual thumbnail size photos. err, how big do you want your photos anyway? (g)

... but I'd be damned if I'd stick my dick into any of them. Fucking under-the-bridge trolls. I'd have to go a lot more than two weeks without any before I engaged any of that shite....

Okay, we'll give you 17 days and then you'd hit it. hahaha

Ya know what the problem with the economy is? My personal opinion is this. Americans (and probably Brits too) are obsessed with STUFF! They go out and buy STUFF, then they get home and they realize they have no place to put the STUFF, so they load up their houses with STUFF, then when their house can no longer take any more STUFF, they contact a storage company to bring a storage container to their home so they can store their STUFF. Let me ask you this, if you need a storage container to store things that you no longer use, WHY DO YOU STILL OWN THEM?, sell them, donate them to charity, take them to the dump, but if you need a container to store STUFF then obviously you have too much STUFF! You know the biggest growing businesses in the US today? Storage containers, where you can put your unwanted, unused, forgotten about STUFF. One of the lessons I learned after Hurricaine Floyd (and the house flooded and we lost pretty much everything) is that it is just STUFF, if it doesn't have a heartbeat it is just STUFF! GET RID OF IT! And STOP SHOPPING FOR MORE STUFF!