Its a shame that so many people in this country view Marijuana as a terrible thing. I would be interested in finding out if they deny the same treatment to cigarette smokers, tobacco chewers, and alcoholics.

Good. If you use tobacco, you should also be banned from this stuff. Alcohol is healthy in certain amounts, so including alcohol in the bans would be a bad idea, unless you were a certified drunk.

sue...

Garon believes he contracted hepatitis C by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager.

I'll bet that had nothing to do with their decision.

On another note in the war against marijauna the State of florida has decided to increase the penalty for growing pot. To me it is amazing that during a year when tax revenue is way, way down due to changes in our property tax laws so severe that school budgets will be severely cut all over the state the idiots in Tallahassee saw fet to spend more money incarcerating people for growing a harmless plant.

"I'm not angry, I'm not mad, I'm just confused."

I wonder why he was confused?

Danni,

As a teacher of kids whose parent(s) think it's ok to smoke pot, I can tell you that it definitely is not harmless.

Anyone who has practiced any sort of questionable behavior should be banned from all organ transplants.

This would allow the virtuous among us a better chance of getting the medical attention we deserve.

A "harmless plant", Danni?

Maybe you're not aware of the loss of profits Monsanto and DuPont would suffer if marijuana were legalized.

And don't even get me started on the hit the pharmaceutical industry would take.

"Harmless plant" my knickers!

Maybe you're not aware of the loss of profits Monsanto and DuPont would suffer if marijuana were legalized.

Yeah, but there would be a boost in Dorito sales.

Absolutely barbaric.

Garon believes he contracted hepatitis C by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager.

I'll bet that had nothing to do with their decision.
Posted by Sniper at 2008-05-02 02:03 PM


YEAH!

That's What Jesus Said when refusing to heal that leper!

Sincerely

A "Christian" Nation

Maybe you're not aware of the loss of profits Monsanto and DuPont would suffer if marijuana were legalized.

Posted by sagmain

I don't understand what a chemical company would stand to loose. The companies that make pills would but a company that makes plastics, paint, and explosives?

jonryker as a smoker of pot for about 39 years I can tell you it is harmless.
That's not to say that kids should smoke it, especially at school, which we both know they do.
That's a completely different problem.
The thing is anyway, the state of Florida is in no position to be increasing penalties which will increase costs but won't do anything about discouraging use. That much we do know after all these years of the ....WARRRRRONNNNDRUGGGGS.

Also yesterday it was reported here in Broward Co. that our Sheriffs Dept. arrested 130 people who were growing pot. Meanwhile we have unsolved murders all over the place, robberies, burglaries, etc. which they do little or nothing about.
Wrong priorities.
BTW, our illustrious Sheriff just left office for a stay in the Federal Penetentiary.

Hemp grows without the use of herbicides and fertilizers. Monsanto and DuPont produce herbicides and fertilizers.

Good. If you use tobacco, you should also be banned from this stuff. Alcohol is healthy in certain amounts, so including alcohol in the bans would be a bad idea, unless you were a certified drunk.
Posted by jonryker at 2008-05-02 01:56 PM


YEAH!

Food is Healthy Too ------- in "Certain Amounts" but becomes "unhealthy" when used in excess (like everything)!

You are such an idiot!

How many alcoholic actors and athletes got livers? It's the American way - you want it, you pay.

Redneck,

Was what I said inaccurate? Idiot? Really? That word comes very easily to you. Of course, it then ceases to have meaning.

Tobacco use in NEVER healthy, unlike food or alcohol....so there is no way you are improving your chances for a healthy liver by using it. Use tobacco, don't get liver, only because they are in limited supply. Soon, this problem goes away, because we'll be able to grow livers on demand, so this is all just a temporary problem. People die every day on the waiting list for a liver. Tobacco abusers should be put on the bottom of the list and kept there, because they're not even trying to stay healthy. That's all....Really, though, a temporary problem.

Hemp grows without the use of herbicides and fertilizers. Monsanto and DuPont produce herbicides and fertilizers.

Posted by mOntecOre

Ya, you would realy hit them in the pocket book. I'll bet that as soon as it is grown comercially, they will use chemicials on it.

YEAH!

That's What Jesus Said when refusing to heal that leper!

Sincerely

A "Christian" Nation

Posted by Redneckville

Well, if the fanatical-right-flat-earther-
christian would not oppose stem cell research we would be closer to growing organs for people. But I guess suffering is how they perceive salvation can happen so they want people to suffer. Such compassionate sonservatism.

Tobacco abusers should be put on the bottom of the list and kept there, because they're not even trying to stay healthy. That's all....Really, though, a temporary problem.

Posted by jonryker

Garon believes he contracted hepatitis C by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager.

I don't know what that is. Could it have anything to do with the decision?

Member2586,

Please update your understanding of cells used to grow organs. No stem cells needed.

"Well, if the fanatical-right-flat-earther-
christian would not oppose stem cell research we would be closer to growing organs for people."

You can add "Bible-ignorer" to that as well, if the Parable of the Talents is to be followed. I refer to those folks as "the third servant".

Good. If you use tobacco, you should also be banned from this stuff. Alcohol is healthy in certain amounts, so including alcohol in the bans would be a bad idea, unless you were a certified drunk.

Posted by jonryker at 2008-05-02 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem with tobacco isn't the tobacco itself, it's the additives that the cigarette companies add to it.

As for "Alcohol is healthy in certain amounts"...well, so is pot.

"Hemp grows without the use of herbicides and fertilizers. Monsanto and DuPont produce herbicides and fertilizers.'

That is but one small piece of the hemp puzzle that companies like Monsanto and DuPont don't want people like Sniper and Jonryker to solve.

"I'll bet that as soon as it is grown comercially, they will use chemicials on it."

Posted by Sniper

Paraquot!!!

"How many alcoholic actors and athletes got livers? "

Posted by Jomama

I don't know. You tell us.

"The problem with tobacco isn't the tobacco itself, it's the additives that the cigarette companies add to it."

Posted by COMMONSENSE

Hmmmm... Yes and no.

It is the nicotine that does get you and keeps you on it, keeps you hooked, keeps you dependent.

The tobaccy companies do add lots'o stuff to the cigarette tobacco, in addition to fluffing and bulking and enhancing and all sorts of cool things.

In contrast, American Spirit cigarettes, the all natural tobacco cigarette (incidentally recently acquired by Phllip-Morris), delivers 30% more nicotine to the user than a standard Marlboro, but of course without all the added yummy chemicals. But tobacco in and of itself is still pretty loaded up with all sorts of nasty stuff. Any plant matter that is burned releases some pretty noxious and toxic stuff.

In this Country that many ignorantly claim is God Country, it still comes down to the almighty dollar. Mickey mantle, HOF baseball player, was given a new Liver which he than abused again an it Killed him, but because he was Americas hero his abuse of alcohol was no hinderance for him to get the surgery, you all are fucking Hyprocrits!!!!

As a teacher of kids whose parent(s) think it's ok to smoke pot, I can tell you that it definitely is not harmless.

Danni,

I actually agree with you. Did the planets line up or something?

"As with most things it all comes back to parenting."

Totally agree with you there and telling kids how harmful pot is only for them to later figure out the truth makes the parent lose credibility. I always told my kids the truth about it and the truth too about Cocaine and hard drugs. Guess what, they smoked pot but stayed away from the bad stuff.
I have a daughter in college still, and yes she smokes pot. She also has a 4.0 grade point average and works full time in a very demanding job and will graduate Magna or Summa Cum Laud this year.

Mickey Mantle died of cancer. Cancerous cells were found post op in his liver. They were behind his liver and not detectable pre op. This cancer then spread to his lungs and he died of lung cancer 3 months later, he did not die from further abuse.

"Its a shame that so many people in this country view Marijuana as a terrible thing. I would be interested in finding out if they deny the same treatment to cigarette smokers, tobacco chewers, and alcoholics."

Are you high? Marijuana is 20 times stronger than cigarettes. Wake up and look how they treat tobacco smokers. Yes these same people want to deny ANY medical treatment to tobacco smokers. Too many on the left love their alcohol so don't look for that to be attacked any time soon.

Hrmph....

Marijuana is not even in the slightest detrimental to ones liver functions....

Mabye we should stop giving any sort of transplants to obese people, hell even to fat people. I bet under the new qualifiers you fat ass republitards could never get any life saving procedures.

This makes me so sad, how many millions of americans take Oxycotin, or Perkocets, to manage their "pain" , some ambien to fall asleap, and some uppers in the morning to get going... all provided by your doctor. Yet these people are still elligible for all transplants...

"Marijuana is 20 times stronger than cigarettes. "

Huh? Are you high? In what respect is marijuana 20 times stronger?

"Marijuana is 20 times stronger than cigarettes. "

Odor isn't everything.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
-Rowan & martin

martin => Martin

You know I have tried pot on 3 different occassions and each and every time it made Me sick. How does ANYONE stomache that shit?? Is there a secret to it??

Larry Mohr

You know I have tried pot on 3 different occassions and each and every time it made Me sick. How does ANYONE stomache that shit?? Is there a secret to it??

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-05-02 06:05 PM | Reply | Flag

Have you tried smoking it, maybe that will help. Eating it (brownies....etc) is not the way to go!

One more thing.....it's used to quell queasiness.....that's why it's used by Chemo patients that can't hold food down. It's odd that it does the opposite to you, but I guess people have opposite reactions to drugs all the time. I'd have to say that it's just not for you.

Commonsense all 3 times were smoked. I guess like You say it's just not for Me. Tasted like rotting rubber hose to Me.

Larry Mohr

Daughter is an abuser of prescription pain medicines. Her kidneys failed late last year and she had to be in CCU for 5 days and then on kidney dialysis for 3 weeks. Drs told her that because she is an abuser of drugs she would be denied a transplant if ever she needed one. Reason: Drug abusers for whatever reason, and this includes the lame excuse of medically prescribed marijuana, have caused the damage to kidneys willfully and therefore denied.

Something for drug abusers to think about. You see, there really is a price we must pay for bad choices in life.

...and this includes the lame excuse of medically prescribed marijuana, have caused the damage to kidneys willfully and therefore denied.

Something for drug abusers to think about. You see, there really is a price we must pay for bad choices in life.

Posted by farmerjohn at 2008-05-02 06:31 PM

can't find the idiot flag...dang!

Farmer- if you have a prescription from your doctor you are not abusing your medicine.

Marijuana has no effect on your liver.

You and your doctor are idiots ...

sorry about your daughter...

Farmer - you got a study showing your claim about marijuana causing kidney damage? Or did you pull that one from your anus?

He probably had AIDSs

Marijuana is a healthy plant.

Here are some others:

Tobacco
Hemlock
Oleander
Elderberry
Nightshade

I love it when hippies say (in their druggie drawl)
"hey man, it's organuic - it can't hurt you."

Take some more bong-hits, Danny and entertain us
with more of your liberal drivel!

Marijuana is a healthy plant = true

Here are some others:

Tobacco
Hemlock
Oleander
Elderberry
Nightshade = False

I love it when hippies say (in their druggie drawl)
"hey man, it's organuic - it can't hurt you."

= your mind operating on pure ignorance

"hey man, it's organuic - it can't hurt you."

I've never heard anyone say that, or read that, ever. Also, you should have put poppies on your list.

They should have denied Limbaugh medical care after he caused his own deafness through oxycontin usage.

"Nightshade "

What's he got against tomatoes?

" it's organuic(sic)"

"Take some more bong-hits"

You appear to have taken too many.

Legalization of Marijuana/Hemp would also end the ridiculous debate over Bio-fuel Ethanols.

But Nooooo...instead of being smart and growing a vast fortune in pot-crops, we let the feds STARVE the world by hording America's Corn Crops for Ethanol.

well, part of that whole Conspiratorial Carlyle Group/Bilderburger thing is the neccessity to rid the planet of 3-5 billion nasty peasants.

Since they cannot control Virus/plagues like they thought they could, obviously they've decided to Starve the undesirables to death.

Hey...what am I smoking?????

what's the real story here?
Benzene causes cancer and the petrochemical companies put the shit in the air all the time...
Their employees breathe it constantly...
can they get a liver transplant?
Not to mention all the other toxins being released in the air every moment...
What is the real excuse for denying a transplant? The money... that is it... pot is really nothing major. I dont smoke it because I have to drug test, but every day when I go to work there are benzene warning signs-cancer causing agent at the entry...
can I get a transplant????

Correction: Medical Marijuana-Death story
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SEATTLE -- In a May 1 story about the death of Timothy Garon, The Associated Press reported erroneously that a doctor had told Garon the previous week that he had been denied placement on a liver-transplant list due to his use of medical marijuana. According to Garon's family and lawyer, the doctor did not give a reason for the denial.

Also, the story erroneously reported that Garon had previously been told by Swedish Medical Center that he needed to abstain from marijuana for six months before he could be placed on a transplant list. That condition was imposed by Harborview Medical Center.

I can continue to google it.

Posted by KBM

Why not? It's Saturday and you're home alone...Why don't don't you check out "vaporizers" which is how some people take medical marijuana. Basically a container with a heating element that cooks off the THC without burning the cellulose which produces all the nasty toxins.

While you're at it look up the toxicity of alcohol. Maybe we should Prohibit that too?

bottom line...

Doctors take an oath to do no harm...

the American Health Care Systems are designed to conspire against them tho isn't it? When the doctor cannot have the final say and it is a "Health Care Provider" that makes the call then patients are harmed.

This doctor failed his patient. I blame the Health Insurance Industry and of of the the deep money grubbing pockets of the Pharmaceutical Industry.

And I go back to my original statement.

SUE!

The family should sue and own that hospital.

I blame the Health Insurance Industry and of of the the deep money grubbing pockets of the Pharmaceutical Industry.

should be

I blame the Health Insurance Industry and the greed of the Pharmaceutical Industry.

dang my editor...he's fired

I love it when hippies say (in their druggie drawl)
"hey man, it's organuic - it can't hurt you."

Take some more bong-hits, Danny and entertain us
with more of your liberal drivel!

Posted by dean_buvia at 2008-05-02 08:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

I love it when rednecks scream about 'hippies' and their 'Wacky Tobaccy'.

All while guzzling Schlitz or Jack D and then going home to punch the wife around the double-wide.

Chug some 'shine' Bovine and entertain us with some honky-tonk barstool rhetoric, or perhaps a retarded 'rebel yell'. YEEEEE-Huh?


See, two can play this game.

Farmer - you got a study showing your claim about marijuana causing kidney damage? Or did you pull that one from your anus?

I DID not say marijuana per se. The Drs said that drug abusers cause damage to their organs and, in the case of my daughter, the combination of MJ and other drugs has caused enough damage she will never get a transplant. Now you people who are all for the druggies can whine and bitch all you want BUT, in the end those who get the organ transplant will be those who have not willfully abused their bodies to the point of destroying themselves and then wanting society to bail them out. I happen to agree, no matter who the person is.

Wow. The Jack Herer thing looks REAL promising. What are we supposed to learn, that lots of pro-pot people (I'm pot-neutral, myself) are total douchebags? "Hemp cure for cancer".... yeah.

And "no American deaths from Marijuana?" My Uncle Ron got real high, went driving, and died because he thought it was funny to see the look on his passenger's face from swerving in and out of traffic. She, however, survived.

That's one death right there. You think Jacky-boy is gonna give me a hundred thousand now?

How.. exactly, is it a "#1 Food item?" Couldn't find that claim explained anywhere on the site. "#1 Paper"? Have you ever tried to use hemp-based paper? The necessary process to make it usable is currently about three times more expensive then a sheet of wood-based paper. Save the planet or not, people won't pay that kind of money for an arguably inferior product.

How high were the people who make these weird claims? Pot is capable of many good things, but not EVERYTHING. Where do potheads get the idea that hemp is gonna save the universe?

Plus.. like any other intoxicating substance... it kills people. I suppose you could argue Ron died because a car hit him, and the pot didn't DIRECTLY... but still. I'd have to say that's not a hair you could split and expect to walk out of court without laughter following you.

Looks like Jack needs to educate himself a smidge.