"For the same reason that you can't judge an entire film or television program by a single scene, you can't judge 'Grand Theft Auto IV' by a small aspect of the game."

Sure you can. Take any currently rated 'R' movie and through in a full penetration sex scene with closeups then submit it to the ratings board and watch what happens to the rating.

The fact is, movies are often time rated on certain scenes which must be edited or removed to get a better rating.

Having known several people that died because of a drunk driver, I have to side with MADD on this. Drunk driving should not be treated as something fun.

Drunk driving is one of the least objectionable parts of the game.

If anything the drunk driving in that game should make you think twice before doing it in real life.

I was all over the place.

The game has a M rating right now which is 17+. So they want it to be AO at 18+. Can anyone say whoopty ta fuckin do?

Little shitheads will get their hands on the game like they have in the past. I love adult-themed media and would like it to continue, but I think it all too often, too easily falls into the hands/upon the ears/in sight of young ones.

Well, last night i got wasted a couple of times on GTA and immediately thought--"it should be pretty fun to drive like this!". It was.

And of course, after i got done playing the game, i pounded a 12 pack, stole a car and drove down to the rough part of town to beat up hookers.

Does anyone know anybody at all that's ever had a problem getting their hands on a video game of any rating?

Think about the first time you saw an R rated movie unsupervised.

MADD may be right, but there isn't really anything that anyone can do about it.

Fuck MADD.

If they would give their husbands a blow job every once in a while maybe they wouldn't have to worry about them drunk driving into a school bus.

And quit fucking with everybody else's business and parent your own damn family!

Well, last night i got wasted a couple of times on GTA and immediately thought--"it should be pretty fun to drive like this!". It was.

And of course, after i got done playing the game, i pounded a 12 pack, stole a car and drove down to the rough part of town to beat up hookers.


Posted by __b__ at 2008-05-01 09:53 AM | Reply


I want to party with you!

"I want to party with you!"

Of course, he left out the part where the hookers kicked his ass and stole his lunch money.

Having known several people that died because of a drunk driver, I have to side with MADD on this

Ever notice these MADD types never give a fuck until it happens to THEM, or someone they care about? Then all of a sudden the whole world must accommodate their loss.

I had to go home recently to bury my best friend from childhood. 30 years old, a wife and two little boys, finally started making good money, bought a Harley, and was dead an hour later. Pretty stupid in my opinion. On a bike with little kids at home--those damn things are dangerous, other people on the road pay them no mind. Apparently my grief will only subside if I picket a motorcycle dealer. And hey, GTA has motorcycles--just look at what they are "teaching" kids!

quit fucking with everybody else's business and parent your own damn family!

rAmen

"...those damn things are dangerous"
Posted by r8rh8r

people in the medical field call them "donorcycles" because its usually a young guy with relatively healthy organs that gets into those fatal accidents. their organs go to save many lives.

"Of course, he left out the part where the hookers kicked his ass and stole his lunch money."

HA!



But seriously--who would think driving drunk is bad, see a video game and then think it is ok? No one. Quite frankly, this game is all about doing things that are horrible, dangerous, immoral and socially unacceptable. And it is fun. But here's the kicker--IT'S FAKE!

It should be the parent's call as to what games their kids should play. It is their responsibility to pay attention and stay involved. There are millions of people who can play a harmless game, enjoy themselves and not go on a crime spree in public.

MADD needs to go away again... Instead, lets all join DAMM---Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

If memory serves Me correctly one of the Founders of MADD was arrestd for DUI about 5 Years ago. Ironic dontcha think.

Larry Mohr

If MADD wants to make a difference, they should get the same laws they have generated for drunk driving applied to people who drive while on their cell phones. Easy to prove, just take down the time and supeona their phone records.

People on their cell phones are far more dangerous than drunk drivers. If for no other reason their numbers.

Then the next group of people they should go after are the people who are too old and do not have the reflexes, etc. to be driving.

When they have done that, then start worrying about some game.

As ironic as a drunk deserter becoming commander-in-chief?

And quit fucking with everybody else's business and parent your own damn family!

Posted by yougothurt at 2008-05-01 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Newsflash: Most of them are no longer parents due to drunk driving.

"They know there is an enormous amount of interest in this new game"

At $60 retail a throw, the makers figure to pull in over 1 billion dollars just from this game.

One

billion

dollars...

Wow!!

"People on their cell phones are far more dangerous than drunk drivers. If for no other reason their numbers."

Posted by sawdust

Sheer speculation (i.e., you simply pulled this out of your arse).

Back it up with real, verifiable stats.

I can assume that you have never lost anybody to a drunk driver, or had somebody close to you who killed her/himself due to drinking and driving.

Having known several people that died because of a drunk driver, I have to side with MADD on this. Drunk driving should not be treated as something fun.

Posted by moomanfl at 2008-05-01 07:15 AM | Reply |

Except playing a video game is not drunk driving. And driving is no video game.

Just like playing battlefield 2 is not combat experience.

Video games like GTA are for young, sexually frustrated serial killers in training. The kids who don't bother with video games are out there getting laid, smoking pot and drinking beer. You know, normal people. That being said, maybe it's better to give the video game losers a release for their psychosis that doesn't involve leaving their basements?

Just like playing battlefield 2 is not combat experience.

Posted by KnightHawk at 2008-05-01 03:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

It isn't?

Well, I'm still wearing my homemade MOH to dinner tomorrow night!

Video games like GTA are for young, sexually frustrated serial killers in training.

Coming from someone who has never actually played it.

DAMM - Drunks Against Mad Mothers was happy to see this feature!

I thought it was D.A.M.
Mothers Against Dyslexia

IF A PARENT LETS THEIR CHILD PLAY OR OWN GTA4....THEN THEY MIGHT AS WELL GO OUT AND GET THEM SMOKES.... PORN AND BOOZE

NOT ALL VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR KIDS

BTW....i have personally seen parents rent their kids GTA......when i approched the parents about what the game is about.....they thanked me


the thing is parents never think games are for adults too

cartoons can be adult...but i have seen parents let their kids watch south park and family guy

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PARENTS ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR KIDS LIVES

got to love people(Hillary), who shout from the soap box about something they don't have a clue about. on the mission that i got drunk on, as soon as i left the bar the game told me i was too drunk to drive and i should get a cab. when i got into a car anyway, the driving was almost imposable.how is this anything but a learning experance without any consequences. and what about accountability? my boss said his son (8 yr old) just got gta4. i told him he was an idiot to let an 8 yr old play. and it was people like him who were fuling the witch hunt. but a 17 yr old is basically an adult. we need to stop treating our teenagers like there still in grade school. come on people they have to grow up sometime. also, i don't understand any organized religion and know there are a lot of hateful things in those books. should we put a rating on them?
gta4 is freeken awesome by the way.

The thing about this stuff is it makes being a parent all the more difficult. Video games like this didn't exist when I was a little shit. My mom didn't want me to play "Doom" so I played it at my friend's house (he had an older brother). My mom didn't want me looking at porn on the internet, but there wasn't much she could do about that, I still went for the porn even after I got caught.

Now I'm all growed up and spend my time blogging about politics and society when I could actually be out there experiencing it. Weather sucks though, so... gotta go check my Fantasy Baseball...

When I was just a little chap, and I wanted a "M" rated game, I just went and bought it, and in the off-chance that they would deny me, I would just come back later.
It's really not that hard to get your hands on this stuff.
I mean, I'm sixteen, but I bought GTA4 without a problem.
And yeah you can get drunk, but you can also shoot police, get at some prostitutes, and run over fat old women.

What ever happened to Mothers Against Prostitutes?