The Elitist vs. The Defeatist. Bring the popcorn.

The fall race should have always been between Bubba and Ahnold..... The Terminator vs The Sperminator.

Hope they both take the gloves off for this one.
It's boring when they both try to be so "polite" to each other
when you know they're both really out for blood.

Vote fer de Obamy! He am a good feller.

The Elitist vs. The Defeatist. Bring the popcorn.

Posted by cookfish at 2008-04-16 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is so typical of the many that like Bush becuse they felt they could 'have a beer' with him.

I don't want my president to be an 'average joe'. I want them to be incredible overachievers. I don't want some drunken man-boy who decides that becoming the president means "you've made it" and it's now time to kick back and relax.

To paraphrase a Daily Show bit, isn't the root of 'Elitist' Elite? Elite, meaning better than?

One more thing, before you go around calling Barak Obama an elitist, you have to admit that George Bush is a HUGE Elitist....with the family oceanfront compound and his massive estate in Texas and his granddaddy's roots as a CT senator, he isn't exactly known for being a self-made man....also, let's not forget that it was Chimpy who once said................drumroll please........................
........................ "MY friends are the 'haves' & the 'have mores'"

the use of elitist is stupid

its obviously another way to swing the voters who after months and months still haven't made a decision

those same people are the ones that can swing at any moment for any reason in any direction...

you can't do anything though

meaning, whats said in the last 10 days before the gen election, is the only thing that they will base their voting day decision on.

Elitist? There are only 100 senators in the whole country. Three of them are running for president. How elite is that?

BORING.................. Does not matter, the dem winner will lose to JM......

JMccain sux


if you vote for him and this country gets even more f'd up

all those that vote for him will officially need to pay reperations to those that didn't

:)

Billary screwed the pooch again (up there behind the barn that her daddy built).

Her Defeatist logic can only last a news cycle until it unravels. Time and Truth are against her.

You see ... labeling another Senator running President an Elitist is pretty damn silly when you yourself are pulling in 10's of millions of dollars a year doing what again?

I kinda wonder when the last time Billary really worried about the cost of eggs and milk and bread or prescription meds or Mortgage payments or gassing up the old ford or getting the brakes fixed or any other number of little things that run up the daily costs of living today.

This The 21st Debate, This Is Insane 100% And Totally. What More Do You Need To Know ?

-Sarge

in my best eeyore voice:

oh yippy.

I kinda wonder when the last time Billary really worried about the cost of eggs and milk and bread or prescription meds or Mortgage payments or gassing up the old ford or getting the brakes fixed or any other number of little things that run up the daily costs of living today.
Posted by donnerboy


Donner - a rare case where I agree with you 100%.

I'll be watching ......


..... something else.

Something else like the Fox News channel. Bill O. will have more substance to discuss in five minutes than both candidates will during their whole debate.

"I'll be watching ......


..... something else."

Posted by Republican4ever


Well, duh.

I haven't watched too much TV debate since Kennedy vs Nixon; Although the Lojack on Bush's back was pretty funny.

Hope they don't softball the questions but I don't have any high hopes for much else.

Hope they don't softball the questions but I don't have any high hopes for much else.
Posted by CalifChris


HRC needs to be careful not to fall into the Nixon "bad guy" role. Maybe the makeup people can somehow hide the 5-o'clock shadow and the scowl.

Lets the lies begin. Here is a round by round take on the events as they unfold.

Round one: Hillary comes out with a whopper! Obama is stunned but then jabs back with 3 small white ones.

Round Two: Obama begins to attack with both falsehoods and exaggerations. Hillary appears stunned and moves to a neutral corner. Late in the round her memory fades and she misremembers several events.

Round three: With Reverend Wright working Obamas corner he comes out firing and landing power shots. First he hits below the belt and to our surprise she actually buckles(must be a set of balls down there somewhere). Then he puts her on the canvas for the first time with a double dousy mischaracterization of her record. She gets up on the count of 8 or to hear he handlers tell it she was only taking a slight rest before the next round.

Round four: Hillary is steamed and comes out with a Tony Rezko haymaker. Obama is stunned and so are his blind supporters in the audience. Then she hits Obama with a barrage of body shots based on his record in the Illinois senate. Hope fades among everyone but the most ardent of Obama supporters. The round ends with Obama breathing heavy.

Round Five: Both candidates advance to the center of the ring cautiously. Obamas legs appear to still be wobbly. He appears pale almost white for the first time in this race. After a couple of weak innuendos by Obama Hillary rears back and throws a bolo lie that has Ted Kennedy spewing his brandy. Blood Splatters on Keith Olbermann sitting in the front row and several pollsters with signs reading "Barrack on the Attack". Then Obama goes down like Rcade at a gay pride festival. Just as the count is about to hit ten Jesse Jackson rings the bell ending the round. Al Sharpton and Reverend Wright drag Obama to his stool.

Round Six: The start of the round is delayed because the tape on Obama's glove is torn. I Wonder how that happened. After the fight resumes but Hillary is acting drunk. Bill Clinton enters the ring and argues with the ref that she was slipped a roofie or just had one too many shots last night in a PA bar. After the ring is cleared the fight resumes. At this point the referee(Tim Russert) seeing Obama looks beatin decides to insert himself and asks Hillary a question. "When was the last time you went hunting"? When she has no immediate lie available Russert stops the fight by disqualifying Hillary and keeps Mr. emtpy suits reputation intact.

Bee Swell

HRC needs to be careful not to fall into the Nixon "bad guy" role.

too late...

She has chosen the route of trying to cast doubt on her opponent rather than highlighting her own abilities. Her strategy is not why we should vote for her by why we should NOT vote for him.

I believe they call that negative campaigning.

Hope. Change. Experience.

There, I just summed up the whole debate.

Who the hell cares? We know who the winner is going to be.

Obama should stop addressing hillary, it reflects poorly on him because it keeps him from addressing the real issues.

Obama, Michelle and their minister/spiritual advisor hate whitey and recently Obama has given whitey another reason to hate them.

This guy's a uniter alright.

In less than a year he's done more to set back race relations than Jesse and Al have in 3 decades.

Stick a fork in this fraud. Even if he gets the nomination he's doa in the general.

All McCain has to do is choose a somewhat youthful moderate and keep breathing until the first Tuesday in November.

What real issues $war?

Breaking the economy with a knee jerk reaction to global warming? ooops excuse me, climate change?

Or further taxing the U.S. poor with a global poverty tax?

Or further hurting the poor by increasing minimum wage?

What issues, $ war?

This The 21st Debate, This Is Insane 100% And Totally. What More Do You Need To Know ?

-Sarge

Posted by Sarge

I do. Does Obama buy his emty suit off the rack, or does he have a tailor?

Mr. Fair

Got your bowl of popcorn ready?
I'll bring the drinks and the chips and salsa.

Perhaps providing poor black girls with taxpayer funded abortions?

Or maybe you mean the issue of SS and why about 60 percent of what goes in the account is used for administration? Maybe he'll tackle that one?

Or maybe you mean the issue of Illegal immigration, is he ready to build the fence he voted FOR? I mean we all know he always gets it right otherwise he votes "present"

Or maybe he's going to give lessons on Real Estate.... How to buy your property at a 40 percent discount.

Or maybe he's going to teach the people the difference between taking pac money up front or through the back door. Everyone knows the NEA, the UAW etc. aren't pac's.

Stick a fork in this fraud people just ain't as dumb as he, his wife and his pastor think they are.

There are nights when you really out do yourself, KPB.

GOP Pride.

I've got a buck he shows up with an American Flag laple pin.

Kris,

What issue you say, well if you're not smart enough to understand this dog fight is over, hillary has lost and should give up gracefully.

Increasing minimum wage hurts the poor? Well I can clearly see it would be worthless addressing you, just another political pandering rightie spouting innocuous rhetoric.

Have a nice day!

I wasn't going to vote for Hillary, but if her grandfather was a working man who loved God and guns, I'm sold!

Kris-
Just for starters: "Or maybe you mean the issue of SS and why about 60 percent of what goes in the account is used for administration? "

Really? Where'd you hear that?

Ok--it's not on here--local news on until 8 pm-- and I hear it on Savage--who can't stop talking long enough to hear what the elitist and the defeatist are saying!

Is there a stream somewhere?

Thanks in advance---

Murphy

ABC sucks, Murphy. The debate is delayed 3 hours on the West Coast, and is not being streamed on their website.

Murphy-
What?

It's unbelievable that ABC isn't airing it live somewhere on the West Coast. Cheesy.

Nulli


ABC sucks, Murphy. The debate is delayed 3 hours on the West Coast, and is not being streamed on their website.

Is THAT why I can't get the debate on tv?
I've been trying to find it on all the channels. No wonder. It won't come on here in California until 9:00 p.m. PST?

It will be on at 8 PST, Chris.

I love watching Hillary jump in with a pile-on attack when she should have the sense to stand back. She didn't need to continue the attack on Rev. Wright begun by George Snuffleupagus. Obama was getting hit plenty; the damage was already done.

I've seen three minutes.....I can't take anymore ahhhh!!!!


But they are both better than Mickey

ff!- Snuffleupagus

When did he disown his pastor? Hillary is kicking his ass.

Thirty seven minutes and we've yet to hear a single question about a real issue affecting Americans. Heckuva job, ABC!

Thirty seven minutes and we've yet to hear a single question about a real issue affecting Americans. Heckuva job, ABC!

Posted by rcade at 2008-04-16 08:38 PM

I told you the questions would all be softballs.

"The picture of the debate is tiny but..."

I tried that link before, but it doesn't work for me. I'll just wait for the broadcast. Besides, those "journalists" aren't going to ask any important questions anyway. Will they ask the candidates about their non-existent plans to downsize the Pentagon and the military industrial complex? About the corporate control of the government , economy and the media? About ending an imperialist foreign policy? Ending the fiasco known as the "war on drugs"?

Thanks !

Rcade--George was taking questions from Sean the other day-to ASK on the Debate!-it was hilarious.

That was the question--on Ayers!

The guy is an admitted terrorist and the left makes him a professor--typical!

Murphy

Yeah, let's hear Obama talk about his bomb buddies.

I told you the questions would all be softballs.

They're not softballs; they're stupidballs. Since when is a presidential candidate responsible for the sentiments of everybody they've ever met in their life? This is pure unmitigated bullshit.

FF Hillary!

The Republicans should just apologize and not run anyone in '08.

Good Comeback by "Obomber" about the pardons.


j/k of course

"They're not softballs; they're stupidballs. "

That's correct. They're not "easy" questions. They're irrelevant, inane, gotcha questions, par for the course for the pathetic American political discourse.

Bomb bomb buddy!

And if we talk about Board Bomb Buddies--let's talk about Hillary and her buddies on Wal-Mart--at least she quit.

Obama has a whole lotta friends in lethal and hateful places.

Oh--Bubba pardoned terrorists! Typical Dems.

Why did she take a break--put the friggin screws to the guy--bet HRC didn't even know Bubba pardoned Weathermen..

Who can fact check that?

I gotta finish this report..

Murphy

This is pure unmitigated bullshit.

The stuff politicians are made from.

I can't wipe the smile off my face, I have a boner.

~Chris Matthews

"They're not softballs; they're stupidballs."

Well considering who's debating tonight, what did you expect? McCain will tear either one into pieces.

McCain? The guy who's running for president of Iraq?

"Yeah, let's hear Obama talk about his bomb buddies."

Why? I thought you wanted to hear about the issues. Are you another one of those who complain about rubberneckers but can't wait to see the crash site?

Well considering who's debating tonight, what did you expect? McCain will tear either one into pieces.

Not is ABC does as bang up (snark) job on McCain as they're doing tonight.

Wisgod and RCADE-
Hertzberg put it well, regarding McCain's "100 years" comment: "But what the context shows, I think, is that yanking that sound bite out of context isn't really all that unfair. McCain's wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal--that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we'll stay."

Is the crowd dead? Barely a peep out of them in an hour.

None of the above is the winner.

The revolution will not be televised.

Nite.

Wow. This is *exactly* the kind of shit that Obama is talking about. Most of this asinine "debate" has been about silly distractions, not actual issues. I'm embarrassed for ABC. MSNBC's debate beat this one to hell.

A flag question? Really?

A flag question? Really?

Yeah. Yeehaw.

The questions are a bit better now. It was painful at the start.

I'm certainly glad that Barrack thinks most homeowners fill out the short Federal tax form. Heaven help us.

Nullidiot

"Yeah, let's hear Obama talk about his bomb buddies."

- CalifChris"

Why? I thought you wanted to hear about the issues. Are you another one of those who complain about rubberneckers but can't wait to see the crash site?

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-16 08:53 PM

Obviously that touch of sarcasm went right over your head and you wouldn't know a "dry humor" comment if it came up and bit you in the ass. Second of all, Obama's still hanging around with his bomb buddies "for advice and discussions" is an important factor to consider. Ever hear of the old saying "You are known by the company you keep"?

From the earliest stages of this presidential campaign I've been one of the main people on DR always bitching about the actual issues never being discussed (although these past few minutes since I've been typing this they now seem to be dicussing some real pertinent issues -- withdrawal from Iraq, Iran, etc.).

Lastly, why are you even posting on here now and annoying me? You said you weren't going to listen to the debate until 8:00 p.m. PST. Go eat your usual peanut butter sandwich and a glass of prune juice for dinner and come back at 8 p.n. (PST) to give all of us your witty retorts and pearls of wisdom -- 'cause that'll be after the rest of us have all left this thread for the evening and you can retort back and forth with yourself.

How can that Liar Hellary support Unions when She belonged to the most AntiUnion company out there WALMART. What a sham She is.

Larry Mohr

I'm certainly glad that Barrack thinks most homeowners fill out the short Federal tax form. Heaven help us.

Wisgod, a lot don't. There's no benefit until you get to about 10,700 (IIRC) in interest on a mortgage.

Obama wants to change Social Security to what? Bush's private Social Security scheme? Obamabush? Hmmmm.

HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at these idiots, they aren't fit compete for a job at Target!

Enjoy President McBUSH, fuckers!

"Obviously that touch of sarcasm went right over your head and you wouldn't know a "dry humor" comment if it came up and bit you in the ass. Second of all, Obama's still hanging around with his bomb buddies "for advice and discussions" is an important factor to consider. Ever hear of the old saying "You are known by the company you keep"? "


Make up your mind! First you say it was a "touch of sarcasm" then you start trotting old cliches about "the company you keep".

Wisgod, a lot don't. There's no benefit until you get to about 10,700 (IIRC) in interest on a mortgage.

Posted by YAV

Is that because the #1 reason to buy a home is to start/or raise a familly? I know you're smarter than that Yav. If you are going to claim alot don't, you better find a link to back that up. Most Americans won't buy that.

My, my.

-Heckuva job, ABC!



ABC is winning so far. Obama running third with a hamstring.

These Constitution snippet intros are lame.

the spearchucker or the dyke?


lmao!

Is that Rex, or what?

Obama wants to change Social Security to what? Bush's private Social Security scheme? Obamabush? Hmmmm.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-16 09:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

No. One of the few tidbits of actual policy proposals from either candidate in this sad demonstration of the current state of media as vapid stenography and mime act was that Obama stated clearly that he wishes to lightly raise the cap on FICA deductions, which ain't so dumb.

You know She just regurgitates Bill Clinton's stuff. She doesn't have any idears of Her own. You know it's often said a Good Woman makes the Man. In this case it's the Man who made Hellary what She is today. You think She could have been a US Senator from New York as just Hillary Rodham?? Not a chance in hell. What a phoney.

Larry Mohr

Charleston Heston is probably rolling in his grave listening to Hillary and Obama.

They are both so stupid they think the gangbangers and other thugs will actually legally register their guns and abide by the laws as to what kind of guns you are legally allowed to own? Talk about being totally out of touch with reality.

Guess it's fairly obvious from those statements they both just made that if you vote Hillary or Obama and you can kiss the Second Amendment good-bye. I guarantee you the Republicans will use those anti-gun comments against them and it will probably cost them the election. Man, the Dems never seem to learn to keep their hands off of trying to get rid of the Second Amendment. It costs them the election every time.

Hillary and Obama wants to tax profits for oil/gas companies. They ignore the disaster this had during Carter.

They still talk about doing it.

They are tone-deaf.

HOw can they even talk or entertain the thought of using Bush for anything except a rubber mat for their feet?

I can't see their faces on the mini tube stream--Are their noses growing?

Murphy

"Ouch."

-B. Obama

Sensible gun laws do not equal "taking your guns away," CalifChris.

This is the worst debate in the entire campaign thus far. Neither candidate is looking good after this merciless barrage of stupid gotcha questions. ABC's looking even worse.

listen to what they are saying.
on the question of the SC looking at the dc gun law...obama started off by saying that he didnt have all the facts and then SHE started off by blasting my president because his administration said they didnt have all the facts....and then only moments later....SHE said she didnt have all the facts....well look her BABY.....blast yourslef for the same friggin thing you just did..


and if either wins but particularly barry wayne hussein.....(he's theone with the white mother and the black father)......GRABS YOUR WALLET BOYS CAUSE THE GOVMT IS COMING AFTER IT.........

Stop being such a crybaby Mr. Moderator.

I bring joy to your blog.

And I speak the truth....ENJOY MCBUSHIE!

recade......I DISAGREE VIGOROUSLY........I think gipson is the only one doing a great job....what you are talking about is that he isnt letting them get away with thier double talk and nonsense.
I.E......the question about capital gains,.when he kept reminding us and obama that when the rate went down.....REVENUES WENT UP........HELLO......even I know that.

This is so full of Fail!

Wow. The calm fact-based reason from the very serious and mature "conservative" commentators on this blog has definitely convinced me to get a lobotomy and register as a moron for the 2008 election thingy.

I'm not watching the debate, but when I see RCade pissed off and posts like this:


This The 21st Debate, This Is Insane 100% And Totally. What More Do You Need To Know ?

-Sarge

Posted by Sarge

That's making me think Obama isn't having a great night...

and I dont know who is winning because I dont care. I just know that if one of them wins there are millions of people in iraq whose days are numbered as well as any gains at all made there for the freedom they were given by our american hero soldiers, and there are millions of amreicans who are about to get a huge tax increase....IF....

but gipson is prepared and ready to actually TALK BACK to them which is sort of throwing you off becaue most media types DONT DO THAT......

Where was your interest in Iraqi lives four years ago, BLT, before Bush's revenge fantasy led thousands of them to their graves?

Olbermann shredded the debate on MSNBC.

Obama is a "unqualified and incompetent presidential candidate of unique ethnicity" and Hillary is a sexually ambiguous overcompensatingly aggressive example of American femininity"

Better?


ENJOY MCBUSHIE!

Sensible gun laws do not equal "taking your guns away," CalifChris.

Posted by rcade at 2008-04-16 09:44 PM | Repl



yes but doesnt the dc law go too far? isnt that the question before the court and isnt that what we have feared with this talk.....the old deal about once you open that box????

Neocon-
re: ENJOY MCBUSHIE!
Why do you hate America?

This The 21st Debate, This Is Insane 100% And Totally. What More Do You Need To Know ?

-Sarge

POSTED BY SARGE AT 2008-04-16 06:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

That's making me think Obama isn't having a great night...

POSTED BY ROB_THE_A_HOLE AT 2008-04-16 09:54 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

That was funny. When'd the debates start, Rob?

There is no proof that a "new coalition" of the latte liberals (that would be me), the young, the black community, and some Indies can win in the electoral college without the full support of the vast numbers of traditional Dem base blue-collar workers, Latinos, women, and seniors.

PLEASE dont use obermann for anything....it doesnt help at all..and again....it stands to reason that when someone has the GALL to question dems when they are fuming from the mouth, you think something is wrong........
just imagine if a REAL Conservative were in the race for us.....he would take these two, rip thier political faces off and show them to them....


I LOVE THESE real time threads but I have to type
fast and that means that I MIGHT mispell a word or have a typo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

--GRABS YOUR WALLET BOYS CAUSE THE GOVMT IS COMING AFTER IT.........


That's all any Tighty heard all night.

RCADE it's not about the lives of the Iraqis Nor is it about the lives of the American Soldiers that people like BLT worry about. It's ALL about the faux pride and fearing that they will have to swallow the truth at some point. You know the Lady MacBeth Syndrome(Thanks Danforth) it's an evil bitch.

Larry Mohr

Corky-
There is no "proof" that your rhetoric, or the insipid meme that you trot out, is anything but a big bag of Clinton gas.

That was funny. When'd the debates start, Rob?

Posted by YAV


No idea... allow me to change my post to say his supporters weren't expecting him to have a great night...

And then judging by RCade's posts, he is not.

Sensible gun laws do not equal "taking your guns away," CalifChris.

Posted by rcade at 2008-04-16 09:44 PM

We already have sensible gun laws. It's the criminals who are the ones who don't bother obeying them.

As for why the NRA and gun owners are so against any form of gun registration is that if in the future our government ever got into the wrong hands (and we all know how easily that can happen) the authorities would then know exactly who among all our citizens owned guns, how many guns they owned, and where they lived should any Administration ever decide to confiscate them.

Our Second Amendment is exactly why our country has never been taken over by any enemy -- either from within or without.

Hitler wanted to enforce stricter gunlaws in pre-WW II Germany as he was rising in power and later when in complete control he convinced the German citizens it would be in their own best interest to no longer even own a gun. The German citizens willingly complied and gave up their guns to the German government. Need I say more as to what happened to them and their country afterwards?

Olbermann shredded the debate on MSNBC.

Posted by rcade


Okay Yav... Sarge gaffe aside... now I'm positive Obama had a shitty night.

and of course neither one said a single word about all of the oil we HAVE RIGHT HERE in dakota and anwar that would enable us to tell the middle east and chavez to choke on thier oil and not one word about no refianries built in over 30 years because of one part of the democrat base...environmental wackos......dont tell me that we cant get that oil and keep those places from looking like a cesspool.

-big bag of Clinton gas.


Amazing the things on some people's "minds".


This is making great film clips on Wright and Bittergate over on CNN. The GOP will save millions in tape alone.

Hellary is all out of Gas BetelG. She is hoping Bill can push Her into the pits.

Larry Mohr

"just imagine if a REAL Conservative were in the race for us.....he would take these two, rip thier political faces off and show them to them...."

Like Rambo, or maybe steroidal zombie Reagan? What pathetic violent fantasy from your impressionable years, endless as they currently seem, is this?

Corky-
LOL. You actually wrote "Bittergate". What a tool.

Where was your interest in Iraqi lives four years ago, BLT,

well lets see oh godfather....I guess I might have been thinking about the families of all those people lying DEAD In the mass graves and the people TORTURED.....really tortured....by the two sons from hell...and all of the political prisoneers and all of the people killed because sadaam gave them 25k to kill themsleves and take innocents out with them and I know you wont agree with all of that but you have to admit those are good things that we did.

Why would the Oil Companies want more refineries BLT?? Hell if they had more refineries they would not reap the profits like they are now.

Larry Mohr

We already have sensible gun laws.

No, we don't. The gun show loophole is completely nuts, and the one year anniversary of Virginia Tech, the fact that people with diagnosed mental health problems shouldn't be able to buy handguns.

oh betel.....good joke....I understand any leftist being upset with conservatives because your side is thrilled that its going to be mccain instead of romney or even thompson....IF he had known how to campaign.......and even with mccain.
YOU ARE SCARED and you cant allow the truth to get too clearly in the public domain because libs LOSE EVERY TIME

the fact that people with diagnosed mental health problems shouldn't be able to buy handguns.

Posted by rcade

Or shotguns, or rifles, or firecrackers...

Puhlease BLT if You was REALLY concerned about the Families of the dead in those Mass Graves You would be all up in Reagan's shit for providing Saddam Hussein the WMD and the Logistics to have them killed. Double funny dat Be.

Larry Mohr

BeetleBug

This debate was for the SDs. If you don't think they are concerned about what the GOP already calls Bittergate, and you are too prissily PC to talk about it, then perhaps the temperature is to high in the cooking area for you.

Bushlovertwo-
I'm just all shivering and TERRIFIED!

so since he is here now.

oh GODFATHER...(thats you, rcade).....I have a favor to ask

so do these comments really make a difference...the ones that are always getting in the way and I dont see all that much on posts. anytime I double post its because one of them has bled onto the publish button and people here might get upset.
anyone else have that problem and dont use them anyway???????

Corky-
Perhaps you would make a better Republican than Democrat. You seem well versed in their tactics - strategy even (effete out of touch liberal), and quite willing to use them.

Bushlovertwo-
I'm just all shivering and TERRIFIED!

Posted by BetelG at


yeah I know.......ha ha.....another good one.

methinks he doth protest too much....

HEY LOOK...SHAKESPEAR.........

LARRY....wake up ...WINTERS OVER....you can come out now.....
and I guess you are just too young to have seen and read about the aftermath in nam after the media and leftists took us out of there........any idea aboutcambodia and pol pot and any idea about the north coming into the south and "cleaning house"

The guy asks Hillary about her sniper caper and Obama runs cover for her giving her a pass and thinking Americans conclude that he should have just said, hey, we're both liars.

What a miserable pack of dullards to choose from this time around. Not one out of three is fit for the post of dog catcher. Yet on of em will end up with the keys to the kennel.

Pathetic.

ABC does Fox news. Plays to the mouthbreathers with the silly-season questions. If the majority of Americans lean to their lesser selves and let this idiocy set the agenda for what they will base their vote on, well then, bob's yer uncle -- we deserve what we get -- which will be more bad government by some very bad people.
Meaning, the elitists and their elitist mouthpieces who are so good at accusing others of being exactly what they are -- traitors and scum bags wearing lapel pins probably made in China. (oh, that's right, the people they accuse of being elitists are patriotic enough to know that the wearing of the pin on a public stage is akin to Dr. Johnson's quote.) Man, I am so tired of stupidity being seen as a virtue.

Barrack "effete out of touch liberal" Obama, eh?

I'm not sure that is much of an improvement. Perhaps you'd make a better John Bircher.

You know I hear about this leftist got us out of Nam prematurely all of the time. Last time I checked BOTH Republicans and Democrats was in Congress at the time. Plus the fact that the President at the time was a REPUBLICAN so how You blame leftists for that?? It's beyond Me BLT.

Larry Mohr

Neocon-
re: ENJOY MCBUSHIE!
Why do you hate America?


Beetlegag,

I love America. Especially real American's like the only true patriot and war hero running for President. I find it so sweetly ironic that these two homos are destroying each other and the only thing us REAL Americans have to do is watch and wait.

I love America because it works, no matter how much you lefty faggot scum try to destroy it.

You cannibalize your own, just like the ragheads do in their own countries.

That's why I love America!

Enjoy 8 more years of being mocked and ridiculed like you deserve to be!

Oh and BLT Yes I DO know it's not Winter anymore. I hate Summer. It's murder for Me. I want My winter back.

Larry Mohr

Take some epsom salts N4E. You are constipated mentally.

Larry Mohr

Neocon-
re: "I love America. Especially real American's like the only true patriot and war hero running for President. I find it so sweetly ironic that these two homos are destroying each other and the only thing us REAL Americans have to do is watch and wait."

You used the term "MCBUSHIE" for McCain. So you'd like four or eight more years of Bush policy, especially if it saved you from the "homos"?

"If we are talking about Obama, albeit negatively that he took a hit tonight, came out on the short end, doesn't the fact that we are talking about him mean that he actually wins?"

- Keith Dobermann

Beetlegag,

I'll take "100" years of Bush policy if it exposes you faggots for the unproductive, self-destructive, little bitches that you are.

C'mon now, if you actually watched that pathetic debate can you really say that McCain isn't more qualified to be president than these two clowns? Be honest with yourself. While not perfect, our government is at least run by men with principles.

Overbite is a whimp.

Neo--could you lower your tone a bit? No one objects to a cuss word once is in a while--but really...

Murphy

Take some epsom salts N4E. You are constipated mentally.

I think it's called "bloggarrhea."

Rob, haven't seen Olbermann's take. I'll watch it later. I agree the debate sucked. ABC sucked. Not so much a negative reflection on candidates. Half the questions were completely stupid.

Neocon-
re: "While not perfect, our government is at least run by men with principles."

I'll guess you'll have to explain the current men, and the principles they support. What I see is a gang of douchebags who will be pointed to by future historians as the crew that sent the US into an ignoble global decline.

Neocon-
You seem to mention "homos" and "faggots" as the source of your problems in every other post.

(Are you in recovery?)

Good Point Yav.
Larry

I live in a 3 bedroom condo and drive an H-3. I'm wealthier than 99% of the people on this planet. Why? Because I live in America.


....If this is "Global Decline," I'll take it any day over the third world socialist banana republic you faggots idolize.

Your own negative self-destructive attitude destroys your soul. America has never been greater, other countries are just trying harder to make us look bad.

Just like Mr. Bitter HUSSEIN Osama wants you to think. He's a mental terrorist, and you take the bait!

Obama won the debate. So say 62% surveyed. Obama will win or be within a few percent of winning PA and Hillary will be finished. Barrack was presidential. Hillary was scripted and annoying.