"Perhaps one casualty of the Iraq war has been the conservative belief in personal responsibility."

Seems to be the response from this administration NOT ME LOOK OVER THERE.

Yeah, no one could have predicted that. Right. A LOT of people PREDICTED just that, she just didn't listen.

Ah yes. Another one of her "No One Could Possibly Have Imagined(TM)" moments.

Question, How and when will they (GB & Co.) be held accountable...

Re-elected 2004...

Continued votes to fund war...

Little congressional oversight...

No impeachment...

Etc...etc...etc...

in a better society than ours one would resign after such a blunder, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Three words too many in that title.

I think there's four too many. Should read: "Rice didn't think."

Hara-kiri - a tradition who's time has returned.

Seppuku. The term is seppuku.

this is part of the "birth defect" she was referring to...not thinking, and saying stupid things.

"Blaming Iraqis for the continued violence in Iraq is a fairly common strategy for those who advocated for the invasion of Iraq and are now trying to distance themselves from the disaster that ensued."


"Blaming Iraqis for the continued violence in Iraq is a fairly common strategy?" WTF? Isn't it Iraqis who are blowing shit up, killing each other and our guys too?? WHat is the matter with you?

MRFAIR-
What a fine howdy-do for invading their country and destroying what was left of their infrastructure (both human and material). Ingrates!

I agree with many here, Condi and her circus troop were warned again and again. Even GHWB was warned ...and listened...not to go into Baghdad in the early 1990's.

Ironically, Sadddam used the sunni minority to hold peace over the shiite/iranian islamic nutjobs in the south of Iraq, keeping the country in a somewhat stabalized status quo.

Now we hear the reports of the US Led Invasion Empire re-backing and re-arming the Sunni population to keep the damned shiite insurgeants at bay.

I just love every fucking failed moment of the whole republican adventure. Every soldier that dies - the blood is on Your Republican Party's hands. feels good, don't it?

You guys sure know how to throw a war!

"Seppuku. The term is seppuku"

The term is interchangeable with hara-kiri. Hara-kiri is more commonly used in the West, while seppuku is the term used more frequently by the Japanese.

SAR: Ah yes. Another one of her "No One Could Possibly Have Imagined(TM)" moments.

Monte: I think there's four too many. Should read: "Rice didn't think."

Basically, Spud read the headline and was rushing to the thread tomake those above two comments and lo and behold SAR and Monte already done 'em.

Dagnabbit!! Gotsta get up pretty early in the blogday to beat those two to the punchline.

FFs all around!

Be Well.

MRFAIR-
What a fine howdy-do for invading their country and destroying what was left of their infrastructure (both human and material). Ingrates!
Posted by BetelG


Quit spinning. Just answer the question: WHO is blowing shit up all the time with car bombs and suicide bombs and IED's, clown?

"I just love every fucking failed moment of the whole republican adventure. Every soldier that dies..."
Posted by DUMPLING1


This might be what you really wanted your sentence to look like. You just love to see that blood so can put on your little pointy partisan party hat and blow your little hooter and scream "I TOLDJA SO!!" You're a real sweet dumpling, Dumpling.

Suck it up Bushites. This was what You wanted after all. Don't come crying to those that told You so.

Larry Mohr

"This might be what you really wanted your sentence to look like."

Or it could be that, like many of us, he's frustrated and angry that no one is ever held accountable for the horrendous decisions, and abysmal lack of planning that has cost us thousands of young American lives, 10's of thousands of wounded/maimed service people, not to mention billions upon billions of dollars, with no end in sight.

And that doesn't even begin to touch on the cost to the Iraqis.

A truly "fair" assessment of Dumpling's motivation might have taken that into consideration.

Suck it up Bushites. This was what You wanted after all. Don't come crying to those that told You so.
Larry Mohr
Posted by LarryMohr


Larry - your retort is fair. The one from Dumpling was morbid and nasty.

"The term is interchangeable with hara-kiri. Hara-kiri is more commonly used in the West, while seppuku is the term used more frequently by the Japanese."

Well, since it's a Japanese tradition, you should use the Japanese word. See the film "Ronin".

MRFAIR-
re: "Quit spinning. Just answer the question: WHO is blowing shit up all the time with car bombs and suicide bombs and IED's, clown?"

Given that Iraq was not a threat, there were no WMD stockpiles and no nuclear weapons program, and no connection between Iraq and 9/11, AND they're such ingrates as to be unhappy with our good-natured intent...

Why don't we just leave?

A truly "fair" assessment of Dumpling's motivation might have taken that into consideration.
Posted by SanAntonioRogue


SAN - you are generally a fair retorter so I admit I shouldn't have taken such a liberty as lopping off the tail end that would have given it more context. HOWEVER, I don't have the time or desire to perform psychoanalysis on these guys in here. I read what's written here and I think any reading of Dumpling's post is just nasty.

Having said that, you guys have seen me go on record as saying the post-Mission-Accomplished "peace" was horrifically mismanaged. We wouldn't have lost so many people if it hadn't been for such poor post-Saddam planning.

Fair enough?

Why don't we just leave?
Posted by BetelG


It's a fair question. I assume (for one thing) the "continued violence" will only get worse and may eventually threaten a wider range of US interests in the region.

Also keep in mind the other, seldom talked-about reasons for being there in the first place. NO - NOT WMD's.

This ignorant "CUNT", should be kicked out of the Peoples House and sent back to the education system, instead of Stanford she should be sent to an inner City school an help elementary school students. This is where her abilities seem to be.
Another fuckin loser of This Administration. GET THE FUCK OUT NOW!!!!!

What a gentleman.

MRFAIR-
You're talking about oil. You won't say it, but you know it.

Quit spinning. Just answer the question: WHO is blowing shit up all the time with car bombs and suicide bombs and IED's, clown?

The question WAS answered Mr Fairly Unbalanced.

The Iraqis are fighting an insurgency designed to get rid of the hated foreign invaders just like the US would do it America were invaded and occupied. In point of fact America would have less reason to try and blow shit up all the time than the Iraqis do.

Think about it.

America supported Saddam during the worst of his atrocities. America supplied arms to BOTH sides of the Iraq/Iran war. America gave Saddam the components for the chemical weapons that were dropped on Halabja. During the Gulf War when the Iraqi troops were fleeing Kuwait they were destroyed almost to a man on the "Highway of Death". A smouldering convoy of dead bodies of folks who had no means to fight back. Each body connected to a family back in Iraq. Then HW Bush told the Iraqis to have an uprising against Saddam inferring that America would somehow support them. When they did have an uprising America didn't support them and Saddam slaughtered them. Combine that with 10 years of snctions in which the poorest folks wuffered and not Saddam and you see the reaction that America found upon invasion and subsequently was not only predictable but inevitable. One more thing, after the invasion one of th efirst things America did was de-bathify the place which left an entire army out of work and the people needed to run to run the country in full flight. Oh and finally Saddam may have been a bastard but he understood the Roman concept of bread and circuses. Saddam provided poor families with a type of welfare with which they survived on. One of Paul Bremers first moves was to eliminate that subsidy.

A country full of angry, hungry, unemployed, people invaded and occupied by their greatest enemy who didn't even bother to bring in enuff translaters or an exit strategy?

Wot did you THINK was gonna happen?

So now try to think about everything Spud just sed. If you truly are FAIR minded you will easily see the truth here. Not only did BushCo KNOW that the Iraqi situation was gonna be unstable (As Dumbya's daddy sed it would be back in the 90's) but they DELIBERATELY took steps to assure CHAOS. They did that to assure a forever war similar to the situation in Palestine where thirty years later the Isrtaeli's still claim "We can't leave YET!" (TM).

Condi feigning ignorance at this point is an insult to folk's intelligence.

Be Well.

/The fact that this admin still tries to explain away the violence as being the actions of Al Quaeda is yet another insult to people's intelligence and belies the simple truth that America fights a long term committed insurgency based on massive popular support from the locals.
//Kinda like 'Nam. You remember 'Nam, at least?

DETHSPUD-
You had me up to here, "Not only did BushCo KNOW that the Iraqi situation was gonna be unstable (As Dumbya's daddy sed it would be back in the 90's) but they DELIBERATELY took steps to assure CHAOS."

Occam's Razor(sp?)is pretty clear in this case: They snorted their own fairy dust, like way too much.

"I thought it would be tough, but I didn't think it would be this tough."

ya know... she should've called.
while not a scholar on the mid-east, we probably could've wikpedia'd the situation.... you know.. the shite, sunni thing.
i'll bet someone at the cia could've found some legit info if you chose to seek it out and read it.

condi... if anything else happens, i'm on my cell.
and i've just tuned the piano.

all the best.
and of course, i miss that wonderful smile.

Anyone looking for some good insight into this war should check out the Frontline two-part special called 'Bush's War'.

Before you start swinging from the trees screaming 'liberal bias", this is the war told by the Bush administration. They sit down with Maliki, Chalabi, Bremer, Franks, Wolfowitz, Condis biographer, Dick Armitage.....etc....etc. and it really is surprising. Some things really make you go "ok, I guess I can see how that might be overlooked" and other make you go "WTF".

Either way, it's a non-bias look at how we got to where we are. There really is no one person to blame as it seems to be a bunch of small inactions that got us here. BTW, it's 4 hours long. Highly recommended.

the situation has become as bad as it has because there are token people like this wasted piece of flesh who occupy critical positions. administration official for stanford. what a joke

"I thought it would be tough, but I didn't think it would be this tough."

Posted by mmike
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Another lie. I remember they said this would take a few weeks at most. She had no clue what was in store and she certainly didn't think anything would be tough.

What does Rice care as she gets a cut of the $30+ Billions they've already "Looted" from Iraq Oil!!!

Rice also didn't think their "illegal" Iraq war would be as astonshingly "profitable" as it has been for her and the other members of the Bush Regime who so far have split up,amongst themselves,more than $30 Billion Dollars they "STOLE" directly from Iraq's Oil Revenues!!!

lawl

"Rice didn't think--"

She thinks now?

I can't believe she ever thought it was a good idea.

This war will never get better, since we invaded them. Cut your loses and go, staying there only prolongs the inevitable.

I can't believe she ever thought it was a good idea.

This war will never get better, since we invaded them. Cut your loses and go, staying there only prolongs the inevitable.

WHO is blowing shit up all the time with car bombs and suicide bombs and IED's, clown?

Iraqis on both sides are blowing up our troops. It's the only thing Iraqis can agree on. Shia and sunni Iraqis are running the militias, carving up the country in the absence of a functional government (thanks to Bush and Bremer) but a lot of the mass casualty suiciders are our bestest buddies-the saudistanis.

"conditioned Iraqis to accept unearned leadership, to embrace sect and tribe over ideas,

Ironically, this is exactly Petrock's surge strategy-arming and bankrolling tribes opposed to the central shia led government.

Conservative Personal responsibility (phoney as it was)may have died in Iraq, but conservative hypocracy is alive and well.

i thought it was foriegn al queda types blowing up cars and suicide bombing etc.

teach me to listen to our govt

The second high profile black person to through away all of their reputation, and presumed integrity, for BushCo !

At least Powell has enough sense to keep his mouth shut.

The term is interchangeable with hara-kiri.

-SAR

Well, since it's a Japanese tradition, you should use the Japanese word.

-LUP

Both are Japanese. Both mean "cutting the gut." One is formal Japanese (seppuku), the other is colloquial (hara-kiri).

In the interest of brevity, the shortert Rice:

"I didn't think."

Wasn't it Roland Kirk, the saxophonist, who did the 'continual breathing' thing?

That's who Condi reminded me of as she spun the case for war.

She wasn't thinking at all. No one the WH was.

Well, they were thinking about how to dupe America into a war we didn't need to fight.

On the continuing struggle in Iraq Rice said she thought it was more of a "structural problem." [ ... ] The secretary warned that "authoritarian regimes are not going to create the condition for the emergence of moderate parties [in the Middle East]."

She's starting to think ...What do you think?

Didn't GW say all they need was FREEDOM...

War hawk and AEI fellow Danielle Pletka recently wrote in the New York Times that she "was wrong" to think that "once free," the Iraqis "would use it well" adding that there is no freedom gene, no inner guide that understands the virtues of civil society, of secret ballots, of political parties."

Like Rice, Pletka also blamed Saddam, saying he "conditioned Iraqis to accept unearned leadership, to embrace sect and tribe over ideas, and to tolerate unbridled

Don't blame CR it's a disease and it's spreading.

should read..."to embrace sect and tribe over ideas, and to tolerate unbridled corruption"

Despite saying she wants to return to Stanford University, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has let it be known in Republican circles that she would consider running for vice president if asked.

One source told Newsmax that she expressed interest in the possibility when Rudy Giuliani was running for president. Another source said she has more recently let her interest be known discreetly within top Republican circles, presumably including John McCain's camp.


We're all wrong she is thinking...get it out now so it isn't an issue in the fall...good thinking!

This wouldn't be the first time that Rice has embarked on a PR campaign to improve her public image.

Washington Post reporter Glenn Kessler reported that shortly after Rice became Secretary of State, she DIRECTED AN AID TO "PLANT A QUESTION asking if she would run for president in order to help "negate American memories of her very direct role" in invading Iraq.

The move was intended to give Rice the "aura of someone who might have presidential aspirations" and "make her seem more powerful than she was."

She has done it before...more thinking...this time she dropped down to VP

would consider running for vice president if asked.

Considering the GOPhers tendency to reward failure and incompetence this is highly likely to occur.

Epecially when the incompetent in question is fiercely loyal to her real bosses.

Neo-Condi "Chevron" Rice?

As Veep?

Yeah, good luck with that.

The GOPhers are the natural refuge of racist politics in America and they already hate McCain. Try tossing an African American female on that ticket and watch the sparks fly!!

Condi "No one could have imagined" Rice?

Condi "I believe the title of that PDB was 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US'" Rice?

Condi "Didn't think Iraq was gonna be tough" Rice?

That gal?

Oh pleeeeeease put her on the ticket.

That would be so much fun fer Spud!

Woo Hoo!!

Be Well.

If they had CR for VP they could attack BO (if he is on the ticket) without worrying about being called racist...they're insulated

The GOPhers are the natural refuge of racist politics in America and they already hate McCain. Try tossing an African American female on that ticket and watch the sparks fly!!

If they had CR for VP they could attack BO (if he is on the ticket) without worrying about being called racist...they're insulated

should read

I just love every fucking failed moment of the whole republican adventure. Every soldier that dies - the blood is on Your Republican Party's hands. feels good, don't it?

You guys sure know how to throw a war!

Posted by DUMPLING1 at 2008-03-28 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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That should say whomever supports and supported the Iraq War has Blood on their hands. Not every Republican in the United States supported the Illegal invasion of Iraq. So it's dishonest to put the blood upon the whole Republicans. Just the Bushites.

Larry Mohr

If they had CR for VP they could attack BO (if he is on the ticket) without worrying about being called racist...they're insulated

Why? Cos Condi would call Barack a "nigga" to his face or sommat?

If you don't think the GOPhers aren't already attacking Barack you aint been paying close attention.

Neo-Condi is a two-fer by the GOP's lights.

Meaning that she is not only a woman but she's black too!

She's essentially window dressing there to hide the essentially racist/ sexist nature of the GOP.

The fact that she also a shill for Big Oil is just icing on the cake for the massive oily-garchy that is BushCo.

The fact that she's been a total failure in this admin at everything but covering up for their crimes doesn't enter into the picture fer ya, Mike?

The second biggest joke in diplomatic circles after John "I am the Walrus" Bolton is she.

Bush's number are rightfully in the shitter because of his horrific failure of an admin and putting Condi on the McLame ticket would just re-inforce the idear that a McCain&abel ticket would just a=be a continuation of BushCo's policies no matter how much he tries to define himself as other than that.

Condi's name has been floated for months now as a potential veep. Spud thinks it's time somebody finally flushed that floater. Larry King asked Michelle Obama about the possibility of Condi as Veep fer McInsane on his show a month or so back. She sed it was the first time she'd heard of the possibility and didn't have a position on the topic. Good fer her thought Spud.

Spud is mightily impressed by Michelle Obama by the way and thinks she's gonna make a heckuva fine First Lady.

Condi as a Veep is a no-go if ya think about it and if ya don't and want her on the ticket Spud sez bring her on!

Cos that would seriously be fun. ^_^

08ama '08.

Be Well.

You know it's funny. The folks that supported this Illegal endeavour ridiculed called anyone that dissented Cowards UnPatriotic the classic Giving Aid and Comfort to the enemy and so many other perjoriatives. Now they are trying to do their damnedest to remove themselves from their support and culpability. Why are Bushites ALWAYS on the wrong side of History?? Seems to Me the ones who continually supported this egregious action need to apologize to those dissenters that they Lambasted. I know it will never come about for they are still in denial. That and that Lady MacBeth Syndrome(Thanks Danforth) is affecting them mightily. Be Brave Bushites Be Brave. Oh and stock up on truckloads of Lava Soap. You are gonna need it in the Years to come.


Larry Mohr

Larry - your retort is fair. The one from Dumpling was morbid and nasty.

POSTED BY MRFAIR


Hopefully Mr. Fair wasn't crippled or killed by Dumpling words.


Does anyone know?

The fact that she's been a total failure in this admin at everything but covering up for their crimes doesn't enter into the picture fer ya, Mike?
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Sure it does Spud but remember it's not me making the case for CR the repubs. have the crayons and are drawing the picture.
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Spud sez bring her on!
Cos that would seriously be fun. ^_^
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Agreed let the games begin

Candor from the White House. Whoda thunk it.

Cheney knew, in exquisite detail, which he stated publically in defense of BushI's pullout after GulfI in 1991. He explained all the competing internal factions and chaos that would have resulted in a march to Bagdad.

He knew then and now. The mess he made has provided endless opportunities for testing weapons and torture on innocent people and PROFITS for him and his cronies. Iraq is a military industrial complex wet dream, as long as you don't give a shit about human beings.

Hopefully Mr. Fair wasn't crippled or killed by Dumpling words.
Does anyone know?
Posted by Zap


I'm not the cripple here.

I'm not the cripple here.

POSTED BY MRFAIR


Hey thanks for the update.

I thought perhaps Dumpling words were to 'harsh' for ya.

"He knew then and now..."
Posted by nutcase


NUT - I think the main things that have changed since 1991 are:

1. increased uncertainty in Saudi Arabia (see home-grown nutbag Fundies, 9/11)
2. SA oil reserves have probably peaked, threatening US supplies longer term
3. the growing love-in between oil-rich Kurdistan and the West
4. the growing regional influence of Turkey and Iran
5. the growing interest in oil in general by China, the EU and Russia
6. the need to secure Iraq/K-stan in light of points 4 and 5


But as Quasimodo once, said: it's just a hunch.

sorry extra comma

Hey thanks for the update.
I thought perhaps Dumpling words were to 'harsh' for ya.
Posted by Zap


Thanks Zap. No, I can handle just about every kind of political and/or personal insult dished out in the DR - and as you know we have experts on that in here! Some of them are even funny in their own gross way. No, it's just disheartening to see something phrased that particular partisanship-on-steroids way, where a person actually expresses joy at failure, blood and death, just to score a cheap political point. That is what I was beefing about.

This BITCH was Bush's National Security Advisor, at the change of Administration. It was there policy then not to continue anything Clinton had started there were to look at everything with a different slant. There ANYTHING BUT CLINTON, policy is what cause them to drop the ball on terriorism, they were warned about Ben Laden but chose to go in another direction, 9/11 was on there clock, an any attempt by these ASSHOLES to change history will be fought back.

No, it's just disheartening to see something phrased that particular partisanship-on-steroids way, where a person actually expresses joy at failure, blood and death, just to score a cheap political point. That is what I was beefing about.


Yes and I can sympathies with those thoughts. But frankly the same thoughts go thru my mind when I hear from the right that more sacrifice will be needed to defend blood already expended.

Not to belabor what has already been said ad nauseum, but this is why this war should have been more carefully considered before it was purposely started. As such it is Bush's war, a republican war, of choice.

Condoleeza Rice admitted: "I thought it would be tough, but I didn't think it would be this tough."


Then you are too stupid to have the job that you do.

And god dammit get your fucking teeth fixed.

As such it is Bush's war, a republican war, of choice.
Posted by Zap


Zap - I won't deny that the remaining Bush supporters are likely overwhelmingly on the Right, but don't forget the old 70% approval rating and the general "We should go kick somebody's ass for 9/11" mentality back in 2001/2002/2003. It took a lot more than just Righties to make up those kinds of numbers.

And god dammit get your fucking teeth fixed.
Posted by 726


FF HAHA! I thought you liked that sexy gap in the teeth!

'I didn't think...' is the operative phrase here.

What's more, you and the rest of the Neocons lied your way into it and ignored all the experts, military and civilian, who warned of the dangers.

Nice job.

At least you're not claiming Jesus told you to do it.

but don't forget the old 70% approval rating and the general "We should go kick somebody's ass for 9/11" mentality back in 2001/2002/2003. It took a lot more than just Righties to make up those kinds of numbers.


I don't remember, "the general "We should go kick somebody's ass for 9/11".

However I do remember Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Co. yelling fire in the theater when by many accounts even then, there was none. Regarding 9/11, supposedly Bush & Cheney never spoke of a connection. Even excepting this in theory, it is very clear they didn't go out of their way to modify anyone with such beliefs.

As well the administration pushed the war as "patriotic" and in the post 9/11 climate, well lets say it played out in their direction.

"It took a lot more than just Righties to make up those kinds of numbers."

You are absolutely right. It took whole channel news networks, it took a constant barrage of right wing talk radio with little if any contradiction available on other stations at the time. It took the demonization of music performers who disagreed. It took a kind of "McCarthyism" that many still cling to even though they are realizing they are relying on a manipulated reality to fuel their beliefs, manipulated by cash paid to insurgents and terrorists who have even killed our own soldiers. If you wrote action like that in a movie it would be too unbelievable. Today, it is fun to watch as "righties" begin actually opening their eyes and being brave enough to admit what they are really seeing. Many are finally admitting that this was all so very predictable and was by many who were ignored or even villified.

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things." "stuff happens"....D. Rumsfled

freedom is really breaking out now

this bush administration is very free

"It took a lot more than just Righties to make up those kinds of numbers."

You are absolutely right..."

Posted by danni


Thanks DANNI!

LOL, To be Fair you're quoting yourself..

Zap - HAHA! But it was Danni who said: "You are absolutely right..."

Zap - HAHA! But it was Danni who said: "You are absolutely right..."

Geeeeee, you really showed Her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK Zap - I thought you were being genuinely nice. Back to the politics. Below is DANNI's full quote. What do you make of it (allowing for Danni's usual high drama content)? McCarthyism? wow...

"You are absolutely right. It took whole channel news networks, it took a constant barrage of right wing talk radio with little if any contradiction available on other stations at the time. It took the demonization of music performers who disagreed. It took a kind of "McCarthyism" that many still cling to even though they are realizing they are relying on a manipulated reality to fuel their beliefs, manipulated by cash paid to insurgents and terrorists who have even killed our own soldiers. If you wrote action like that in a movie it would be too unbelievable. Today, it is fun to watch as "righties" begin actually opening their eyes and being brave enough to admit what they are really seeing. Many are finally admitting that this was all so very predictable and was by many who were ignored or even villified."
Posted by danni

OK Zap - I thought you were being genuinely nice.

I was and you turned into a genuine asshole.

Danni take is different than your. Giving you the right to manipulate her post in an obvious and frankly stupid way.

Go figure......

Mr Fair civil discourse can have differing opinion.

I was and you turned into a genuine asshole.
Danni take is different than your. Giving you the right to manipulate her post in an obvious and frankly stupid way.
Go figure......
Posted by Zap


Mr Fair civil discourse can have differing opinion.
Posted by Zap


I agree with your second post and not your first, where you called me a genuine asshole. I don't mind being called an asshole when I deserve it but I don't think that was the case here. Of course my manipulation of Danni's quote was obvious. I wasn't trying to be sneaky or dishonest. I was just trying to get her to spout off again as she does. It's a bit of fun.

I agree with your second post and not your first


If the second was true the first is self evident.

I didn't accuse you of being sneaky or dishonest.

Trying to make one 'spout off' is manipulative and obviously not civil.

Making you, well we covered that.

Trying to make one 'spout off' is manipulative and obviously not civil.
Making you, well we covered that.
Posted by Zap


Zap, by DR standards, this is extremely civil. And so no, it doesn't make me a - well we covered that.

"Plans to reduce British troop numbers in Iraq to 2,500 this spring have been abandoned on the recommendation of military commanders, UK officials say.

"Gordon Brown, prime minister, announced in October that from spring Britain would seek to cut the force to 2,500,"

"...but I didn't think it would be this tough."

Getting tougher on the British...

Rice Didn't Think Iraq Would Be 'This Tough'

How fucking pathetic. And cynical, too. And incompetent. Who hired this bitch anyway? Oh yeah... Well, that 'splains that, I guess %-/

err, apropos incompetent...

Rice Didn't Think Iraq Would Be 'This Tough'

How fucking pathetic. And cynical, too. And incompetent. Who hired this bitch anyway? Oh yeah... Well, that 'splains that, I guess %-/

if she had any dignity she woulda resigned already. but how can one have both intact dignity and an oil tanker named after her?

None of the Bushies thought it would be this tough because they put very little thought into the whole exercise before sending people over there.

They half-assed the pre-war planning. Why? They didn't give a fuck.