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i've taken this test four times in the last two years and come out just barely left of center each time. yes, i've admitted it to my friends and have tried to figure out where i've gone wrong.

some believe you can be so far one way as to be shoulder to shoulder with the other side - if you think in circular terms. i think in circular terms and am just wondering what others think as far as "left" and "right" tend to believe.

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ALMOST CENTER... barely above authoritarian right

Left-libertarian.

Just took the quiz.It seems that Gandhi must have got one wrong.


Judas-
"... barely above authoritarian right"

Nice.

BETELG...SEE... i know you will believe.... what you want to believe....thats why you left out...."ALMOST CENTER"

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

I'm a far left loon

No, you're a left-libertarian.

Judas-
Okay. You're an "ALMOST CENTER" right-leaning authoritarian, according to the quiz results. In case you're wondering, which you probably aren't, it's more the authoritarian part that should cause you concern (see 20th century, etc.).


I'm a far left loon -Messiah

No, you're a left-libertarian - Nulli

Same thing...

I knew that was coming the second I posted it. Oh well...

Andrea-
Funny. But a "left-libertarian" won't stick a camera up your business in the name of "patriotism".

"I knew that was coming the second I posted it."

I hate that feeling ;-)

"But a "left-libertarian" won't stick a camera up your business in the name of "patriotism".

No, they will stick up your business in the name of health care...

It was a joke. I listen to the classless hack O'reilly on the radio and he says it all the time.

Almost center barely above authoritian left.

Andrea-
No. Not a left-libertarian.

Why does everyone have this problem? As the explanation in the link explains, economic left/right often has dick to do with the authoritarian/libertarian scale.

It really is the authoritarians that we all should be wary of. (no direct offense intended to anyone here, but I wonder what questions tipped it)

Was it these?

"what goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state."

"making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity."

"although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried."

"the most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline."

Those I wonder about, but the real litmus test is this:
"all authority should be questioned."

I'm somewhere close to gandhi, but this test is crap I think.

The questions are too broad, and you can argue most all of them. "it's OK in this situation, but not in that one" etcetera.

"Why does everyone have this problem?" -

I don't I just know, Nullifidian wants universal health care like a dog wants a bone.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

Larry Mohr

In fact, I'm beginning to rethink my previous conclusions regarding poll taxes/tests. There should be one test with one question, administered in what ever language or communication medium is required so that the potential voter understands the question:

"All authority should be questioned" (Y/N)

If the answer is "No", they can study up and try again next time.

And pray tell is so wrong about Universal Health Care?? You would think with how America claims to be the Beacon of Hope and Freedom on the worlds stage they Could at the very least provide the ability for Her citizens to have Health Care Coverage without it costing them an Arm and a Leg sometimes LITERALLY. Doesn't make sense at all.

Larry Mohr

"Nullifidian wants universal health care like a dog wants a bone."


I can think of worse things to desire, like 100 years of war that John McCain is willing to tolerate.

andrea god forbid the poor get the same care the rich does. Being poor is a crime in the eyes of republicans

Political compass: Left leaning
Nolan chart: Barely a libertarian from the left side.
Pournelle chart: Can't find a site with that test yet.

Political Compass:

Economic left/right -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian - 0.21

Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79

Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08

Econ: +1.38
Soc: -2.72

That's interesting, I'd have thought certain I'd be considerably closer to the lower right corner than that.

I've taken this test three different times. One thing I've noted, the questions/statements tend to pigeonhole you. They don't really take extenuating/mitigating circumstances into effect, and some of those situations really need that.

Alex, re your 0351, the first time I saw that Nolan scale was on the Libertarian Party website. I might be wrong (hell, I've been wrong before), but I think that test was deliberately slanted to make people think they were "Loonytarians" (tm Null/BoR (I did get that right, yes, Nullifidian, you posted previously under BillOReilly?))

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 9.25


Just Kidding


Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.08


Cool test, have been taking this for years, it appears I have moved left by about .25.

Cheers,
Walt

Cheers,
Walt

Not sure why I italicized those.

It really is interesting to see these results and it explains a WHOLE lot.

I have given this test to practically everyone I know, we even had a graph of where we all stood at work. (In 2003).

At the time I thought some of these guys were so left, you couldn't get any more left! And none of them had results similar to what some of you guys in the lower left side have. Keep in mind that I thought these guys were nuts; Socialist medicine, War for Oilers types. Some of you guys BB, AU, CC make them look like Bush by comparison.

I think the worst I ever saw was like L~-1.5 and S~2.25

Not sure why I put

Cheers,
Walt

Cheers,
Walt

I aint even been drinking.

Yet. TGIT!

Cheers,
Walt

Ya, there tests are so subjective.

I think a straight 'agree' or 'disagree' would clear things up a lot.

Like the question about a one party government. I mean, obviously it's easier for a one party system to get things done, by hook or gallows, but the question was phrased in such a way I had to scratch my head for a minute.

I only clicked 'strongly disagree' on a few. Only those items like 'is it better to let charity or social security take care of our needy citizens?' Charities only do so much.

Anyway, I'm sure it'll come out differently every time to some degree.

As to Bush, I want to be the MOST unlike him I can possibly be. I didn't have a rich powerful daddy to get me out of every scrape, or a lifetime of luxury now guaranteed him for being a complete fuckup.

Anyway, I'm sure it'll come out differently every time to some degree.

Don't be so sure. Unless you purposely try to sway it, it will come out very similarly each time you take it.

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

"Not sure why I put"

Cheers,
Walt

Cheers,
Walt


It happens, Walt. No biggie.

Hans

Hans

Economic Left/Right: 2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36

i took the test again and read more between the lines - some of it is psych 101 and is geared to see if you're consistent in your thinking - some of the questions i could have cared less about, but had to make an "opinion" - when i took it about a year ago, i was more socially left, although just barely.

now, my thought for the day:

if you REALLY had a broken heart, you'd be dead so just shut up about it!

bwah!

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03


Apparently, compared to me, Ghandi was Hitleresque.

you're off the charts, rev!

"you're off the charts, rev!"

Of course he is.

Just another reason why he's so popular.

Hans

you're off the charts, rev!

Actually, I'm very moderate.

Everyone ELSE in the world is a raving, right-wing, authoritarian scum-dog!

Some people claim that The Political Compass is flawed for Americans because it is a London, England-based Web site.

Here's a made-in-the-USA site:

The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press - The Political Typology
Hans

rev - you're young - there's still hope for you!

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaa!

*;]

Well, Hans, that site tells me I'm a liberal. No suprise there, since I'm a self-admitted long-haired hippie.

rev - you're young - there's still hope for you!

I should think so, Nanc, since when I was younger I was a VERY staunch conservative. The older I've gotten and the more I've learned about the world, the more liberal I've become.

thanks, hans - i'm an enterpriser.

so, rev - if you had it in your power, and you had all the money - would you be willing to take care of the rest of u.s. if we just wanted to sit around and do nothing?

Walt-
It would take a true far-left nutcase to think that a war in the ME had anything to do with oil, whereas all right-thinking people understand that it's about an immediate threat from Saddam's WMD's...er, to spread democracy and freedom, or whatever.

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38

Boyd,
How's the wife doin'?

so, rev - if you had it in your power, and you had all the money - would you be willing to take care of the rest of u.s. if we just wanted to sit around and do nothing?

That's not the definition of a non-authoritarian liberal, Nanc. That's an authoritarian Liberal.

I'd be willing, however, to help those unable to help themselves. I'd be willing to provide that which I consider to be fundamental necessities to all: health care, food, shelter, education. Those able to get beyond the basics would be more than welcome to improve their lives, but at least no one would be left to die on the streets or have to choose between medication and food.

Creepy, 101. How 'bout we avoid the peeping-tom bit, K?

Boyd,
I'll drop it if you quit changing names and lying about it, K?

Isn't there some way to get these creeps off the board? It's like someone shitting in the pool.

Somebody got Boyd, Barney, bad-week, and a couple of dozen other handles off the board...Oh wait, that was you!

Isn't there some way to get these creeps off the board? It's like someone shitting in the pool.

Well, if you feel that strongly about it, maybe I'll go.












NAH!

Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.59

Right libertarian. Though the test has alot of misleading questions, i came out about right, though I did not choose strongly agree or disagree in my questions, so that might have to do with something.

I took the test using strongly agree or strongly disagree for a few questions that I thought about and came up with the following:

Economic Left/Right: 5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59

A bit more libertarian, a bit more right. That's more like it I guess, though at age 47, I'm tired of this word "strongly"-- whether you agree or your don't or you don't give a shit. "Don't give a siht" is not a choice unfortunately.

"Don't give a shit" should be a choice. If it played into the analysis of the data it should mean either nothing at all, a slight lean to the libertarian end, or an entirely new category: most people.

I can see that for the sake of differentiation there is no middle answer. But that is really the biggest problem I can see with such a quiz. Though to use a middle of the road type of questionnaire, that having 5 not 4 available answers would take a much longer quizzing.

The originators of this thingy must be run down, tortured and then killed a lot.

rev - then you are a capitalist with social leaning tendencies?

rev - then you are a capitalist with social leaning tendencies?

A fairly accurate description, yes.

I've no problem with people getting ahead in the world. I've a problem with people getting ahead by climbing over the bodies of others.

i agree wholeheartedly with you there!

my biggest problem with "churches" and the "government" is the churches are not doing enough in the charitable department. too many rolls royces and multi-million dollar mansions and too many hungry people - we screwed up when we gave government control over charity.

churches will be sorry one day.

"All authority should be questioned" (Y/N)

If the answer is "No", they can study up and try again next time.

Posted by BetelG at 2008-03-27 03:21 AM

I have seen very little questioning authority on this board. The Drudge is full of goosesteppers and people who believe whatever bullshit story the government hands them no matter how ridiculous.

8 shots or 13?

Economic Left/Right: 2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

About where I expected to be, right near Nelson Mandela.

Funny thing about this "compass". Not one question pertaining to gun rights or self defense. HMMM.

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

Economic Left/Right: 4.27
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.42

Definitely need a "Don't Give A Shit" answer. I hate being forced to choose Agree or Disagree when I want to be ambivalent.

Economic Left/Right: 1.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79

If I am Left Liberatarian, how come I wind up having to vote for an extreme right wing republican against my own wishes. Hmmm? Can someone please give me a answer to that that doesn't include the words, 'because you are an idiot'?

cool test:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.12

I'm the most centered person here.

Vote for me. Kris_P_Bacon 08!

Almost right in the center but left/libertarian. But I must say that many of those questions are loaded. They use the word sometimes and usually in places that made the questions difficult to answer if you are being true to yourself.

Economic Left/Right: 2.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.0

Hillary Clinton

Whoa get a load of Dethspud's results:


Narcotic dependence 9.82
Perversion 12.0

Today:
Economic Left/Right: 2.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.0

Tomorrow:
Economic Left/Right: -2.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.0

Next day:

Economic Left/Right: ?
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: ?

John McCain


Barack Obama

Economic Left/Right: That's racist
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: Hope and Change

"Whoa get a load of Dethspud's results:"

Posted by
Fredo_C/santino_c at 2008-03-27 03:20 PM

I too was almost at dead centre, was just to the left and below the line. Cool test.

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

Yep, squishy.

Sorry Hansel, but I think the yoke is on you.

I suppose only one person can possibly have a last name that begins with the letter C?

we have some evil mofos on this board

"I suppose only one person can possibly have a last name that begins with the letter C?"

Posted by
Fredo_C/santino_c at 2008-03-27 03:20 PM at 2008-03-27 03:44 PM

Fredo_C = Fredo_Corleone

santino_c = santino_corleone

Can't keep their monikers straight.

I'm sure it is all just a coincidence.

Hans

Economic Left/Right: 0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.64

who the fuck is Corleone? asswipe.
My last name is Cisneros.

"who the fuck is Corleone?"

Nice knowing ya', Fredo.

P.S. I wouldn't go fishing anytime soon.

political compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

so, did any'y'all get results you didn't like?

"All authority should be questioned" (Y/N)

I answered yes to that, and consequently I challenge the authority of this test to accurately characterize people politically.

The only thing these tests accurately test is how you take this particular test.



I have seen very little questioning authority on this board. The Drudge is full of goosesteppers and people who believe whatever bullshit story the government hands them no matter how ridiculous.


Perhaps, perhaps not, but we can say we certainty that many on the retort question your statements and assertions.

Maybe what you are pointing to is that people are not goosestepping to your positions, ideas or agenda.

Cheers

many people assume too much as to what others do with their time outside this forum.

perhaps they speak for themselves?

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

Just above and to the right of Ghandi.

Liberterian Right (just barely)

my dot was exactly where Gahndi's was...now we know this test is full of shit...:)

Can someone please give me a answer to that that doesn't include the words, 'because you are an idiot'?

Posted by Lipzoidial at 2008-03-27 03:11 PM |

Sorry, but I don't think that would be possible..:)

The Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

Me and the Dali Lama, skipping through life hand and hand.

THAT I can live with.......

Me and the Dali Lama, skipping through life hand and hand.

THAT I can live with.......

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-03-28 10:21 AM | Reply


Salad tosser...

Economic Left/Right: 2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.21

I agree that the questions don't provide options for meaningful answers (like an "I don't know" or "I don't give a shit").

The last time I took this test I ended up right on top of Ayn Rand. Not a bad place to be; based on her philosophy of sex, I think she must have been quite the dirty little slut in the bedroom, back in her youth.

For all of you looter and moochers out there that puts me Somewhere in the +6 right -2 left range

Sorry, -2 libretarian range

"I have seen very little questioning authority on this board. The Drudge is full of goosesteppers and people who believe whatever bullshit story the government hands them no matter how ridiculous."

I think the point of questioning authority is to come up with a reasonable alternative explanation, emphasis on "reasonable". A bullshit story from a non-government source is still a bullshit story.

left/right-- -2,75
up/down----- -0.51

Now where do I go to get my fee? Pay up or you're dead!

NANC

I have jumped your bones several times and feel when it applies the reverse should be true.

Nice thread, good eye and atta/boy/gal

Me and the Dali Lama, skipping through life hand and hand.

THAT I can live with.......

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-03-28 10:21 AM | Reply


Salad tosser...

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-28 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hey, if it's good enough for your false prophet Bush and Bandar.....

"I'd be willing, however, to help those unable to help themselves. I'd be willing to provide that which I consider to be fundamental necessities to all: health care, food, shelter, education. Those able to get beyond the basics would be more than welcome to improve their lives, but at least no one would be left to die on the streets or have to choose between medication and food."

Isn't that kinda what we have now? I am not aware of a huge problem with people dying in the streets because they can't get the necessities they need for survival.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

Pretty much where I expected to be, and yet, still called a righty-tighty by many.

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69


Like most questionnaires like this, too simplistic, but still a good exercise. There really needs to be a "no opinion" - or, more accurately, "meh, whatever"

A true moderate -- a tiny hair's width of a whisker into the NW quadrant -- virtually in the center. It figures! All extremes are missing something!

Almost nearly center.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05

Now that you've all taken the test, did anyone happen to notice this:

www.politicalcompass.org

"Similarly, Hillary Clinton is popularly perceived as a leftist in the United States while in any other western democracy her record is that of a moderate conservative."

Now there's a surprise...not.

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