Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs

Rogers Cadenhead: For days, Hillary Clinton has padded her foreign policy resume with an anecdote about a 1996 trip to Bosnia in which her diplomatic entourage evaded sniper fire and made a dangerous corkscrew landing. Now that video has emerged to prove this to be blatantly false, it may be the biggest blunder of her campaign.

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On Bosnia?

Add it to the list if you must...........

where is corky???

Gathering weapons and preparing for a counterattack, I'd imagine.

Foreign interventionism will bite every American somehow, some way, sooner or later.

That it bit Hillary in this way is no surprise.

If you are a Repub and a pollster calls you: say you are a Democrat and you prefer Hillary because you are afraid of Rev. Wright.

When Limbaugh and other Republicans promote sneaky pro-Hillary campaigns like that, Fredo, it smacks of complete desperation. You must not be very confident in John McCain.

I just can't imagine why she said this... she went with her daughter... would they really have even landed or just been out walking around with Chelsea if they were being fired at?

Done...

too bad... this was really helping McCain.

I take Rev Wright as serious as Rev Run.
He is a loon with a bunch of kooks in his ministry that drink his koolaid

Outside of a landslide victory in her Senate run, what exactly hasn't she blown.

Bill for one, that's for sure.

Corky is in the armored front section of the plane, avoiding the oncoming sniper fire.

When Limbaugh and other Republicans promote sneaky pro-Hillary campaigns like that, Fredo, it smacks of complete desperation.

Primaries are viscious creatures... the longer you keep one going the more it helps the other side, especially if they are done with theirs.

With a story last week that about 1 in 5 of democrats will vote for McCain if their guy/gal loses, its in the best interest of the GOP to keep this thing going until the convention. Hell, maybe we can get it up to 30%, if we can get this thing nasty enough.

To be fair, Obama has embellished some of his Senate record. From the Washington Post article, it's pretty common for Senators to do it and Clinton has done it too.

No excuse for what Hillary did though.

Even "worse" is how she said they would send the First Lady to places where it was too dangerous for the President, then it turns out that Bill was there in the same place TWO MONTHS BEFORE she was.

What kind of "Ready on Day One" is this Hillary?

Rcade: it is the Dems who set up the Superdelegate system, it is so typically liberal elitist - "the general public is stupid, so let's have a safety valve to override the will of the useful idiots"

I say exploit it.

and, politics is sneaky on all sides. who are the repubs to rise above it? "they ain't no freakin' monument to justice!" ( Nicholas cage character from "Moonstruck")

The lying bitch just reaffirms that she is a lying bitch. To say "I misspoke" is a lie on top of a lie. If you were "running" for cover with your daughter in tow to evade sniper fire that would standout in anyones memory. Most if not all people would remember being shot at especially if it happened only once in their life. I won't mention the fact the the Secret Service would never allow her to put herself in that situation. They (the SS) knew the area was secure. Performing evasive manuvers during the approach to the airport and sheltering Hill & Chelsea in the armored cockpit is SOP.

Stick a fork in her, she's done. I just hope she realizes it also, and soon.

Does the senator genuinely believe that her husband's policy while president was to send his wife and 16-year-old daughter on diplomatic trips that were too dangerous for him?

Love it. I'm wondering if SNL will do a skit on the Bosnia trip and Hillary's "whopper" about it?

Billy Ray when is Hannah gonna turn 18?

While Hillary's account of Bosnia has come under question it still remains true that John McCain lost yet another military aircraft while touring the area.

That brings his remaining lives down to 3.

Updates as they come........

I got to tell you I still think David Lesar is the best candidate for President. This cream puffs running for President are amateurs.

Maybe the Dems should think about running a gay nominee in 2012

"Maybe the Dems should think about running a gay nominee in 2012"

Been done. See Republicans, 2000 and 2004.

Slander will get you no where but in the gutter with loons who think the WTC was actually destroyed. Everyone knows David Copperfield is using mind control to keep up the appearance that the towers were actually destroyed

Hilary's trip to Bosnia seems about as dangerous as John McCain's shopping trip in Baghdad was safe.

Good one, Danni! :-)

Yes Danni - and they both demonstrated their true selves when she said HERS was "Dangerous" and he said HIS was "Safe"

I know you said that already : )

"Good one, Danni! :-)"


Danni and Gal Tuesday why don't you two go get a room.

and don't forget the video camera

When exactly did Hillary's Bosnia trip occur? Anybody know?

I mean what date in 1996?

Now let me tell you what I can remember, OK -- because what I was told was that we had to land a certain way and move quickly because of the threat of sniper fire. So I misspoke -- I didn't say that in my book or other times but if I said something that made it seem as though there was actual fire -- that's not what I was told. I was told we had to land a certain way, we had to have our bulletproof stuff on because of the threat of sniper fire. I was also told that the greeting ceremony had been moved away from the tarmac but that there was this 8-year-old girl and, I can't, I can't rush by her, I've got to at least greet her -- so I made a -- I took her stuff and then I left, Now that's my memory of it...No, I went to 80 countries, you know. I gave contemporaneous accounts, I wrote about a lot of this in my book. You know, I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I misspoke, that was just a mistatement.

blog.washingtonpost.com

----

Brave Hillary! Risked her life under sniper fire because she just couldn't rush by this poor little girl...she just had to greet her.

Man, was she fumbling for an excuse or what?

View: Clinton Blew It on Bosnia

Do the math and makeup your own headline:

Lisa Caputo, a spokeswoman for the first lady, said the purpose of Clinton's March 23 to April 1 [1996] trip was to "affirm the U.S. commitment to democracy in that part of the world and show support for U.S. troops in Bosnia and their families."

www.highbeam.com

Monica Lewinsky alleged nine sexual encounters with Bill Clinton:

November 15, 1995: In the private study off the Oval office.
November 17, 1995: While Bill Clinton was on the phone with a member of Congress.
December 31, 1995: In a White House study.
January 7, 1996: In the Oval Office.
January 21, 1996: In the hallway by the private study next to the Oval Office.
February 4, 1996.
March 31, 1996.
February 28, 1997: near the Oval Office. This is when the blue dress stains were created.
March 29, 1997. (Clinton denied that this day's encounter actually happened.)

First Lady Hillary Clinton was at the White House for at least some portion of five days of these sexual encounters.


Here is the link for the second quote above:

en.wikipedia.org

another thing I don't get is how did she forget that the press was there with her... CBS was on the same damn plane! What the fuck was she thinking with this one?

That's really why it was too dangerous for Bill to go to Bosnia.

You must not be very confident in John McCain.

No, I just find this primary disaster by the Dems to be incredibly amusing and entertaining. The more people like Rush can work their screwed up system, the funnier they become.

The more people like Rush can work their screwed up system, the funnier they become.

Posted by Redman


If the Clinton Admin has anything left on Obama... maybe something they've been sitting on, look for it to come out in the next couple days... they'll need a distraction from this...

Just another in a long line of anti-military servicemen and women insults by the Clinton's who used military aids assigned to the White House as servants, took their entire traveling circus to Afghanistan for Thanks Giving Dinner and put them at the head of the line in front hundreds of servicemen and women or when Bill Clinton described career service members as "career military servants" WHO DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT PHONE?"


"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." - Hillary Clinton

Hillary recently misspoke about her trip to Bosnia. She accurately describes the trip in her book, Living History:

'Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac ... '

"Security conditions were constantly changing in the former Yugoslavia, and they had recently deteriorated again. Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children, though we did have time to meet them and their teachers and to learn how hard they had worked during the war to continue classes in any safe spot they could find. ... We were then off to the fortified American base at Tuzla, where over two thousand American, Russian, Canadian, British, and Polish soldiers were encamped in a large tent city." [Living History, p. 343]

Contemporaneous news accounts confirm that Hillary's trip to Bosnia was a dangerous situation:

Hillary's trip to Bosnia marked the first time since Eleanor Roosevelt that a first lady traveled to a potential combat zone. Accompanied by singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow and comedian Sinbad, Mrs. Clinton traveled to this northwestern Bosnian town on a morale-boosting tour for the 18,500 U.S. troops participating in the NATO-led peacemaking operation. She heard a poem of peace from a Bosnian girl and praised U.S. troops for 'showing what American leadership is.' ... This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone. During World War II, Roosevelt toured the devastated streets of London and the southwestern Pacific, bringing cheer to U.S. troops. [Washington Post, 3/26/96]

Hillary was 'protected by sharpshooters' in a 'military zone' when she visited troops in Bosnia. "Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Rodham Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday to deliver a personal 'thank you, thank you, thank you' to U.S. troops. 'They're making a difference,' the first lady said of the 18,500 Americans working as peacekeepers in Bosnia. Mrs. Clinton became the first presidential spouse since Eleanor Roosevelt to make such an extensive trip into what can be considered a hostile area, though others have visited hot spots ... " [Charleston Gazette, 3/26/96]

Tempest/teapot?

Maybe the Dems should think about running a gay nominee in 2012

Posted by timbci at 2008-03-25 11:54 AM


They're looking for a black hermaphrodite.

Tempest/teapot?

If it was, why would she find it necessary to give out that convoluted and completely messy and, inaccurate if you watch the video, account posted at 12.25pm by Pirate?

"another thing I don't get is how did she forget that the press was there with her..."

I agree, someone needs to remind politicians that there are these things...called video cameras, and tape recorders.

that was just plain dumb. how any prominent person thinks they can blithely embelish the truth or lie in this day and age is beyond me. wasn't it clemens that claimed he wasn't at a party, only to be refuted by photo evidence? Dumbassed dumbasses.

Politicians will still lie to us when they can, but the opportunities are becoming fewer.

Politicians will still lie to us when they can, but the opportunities are becoming fewer.

Posted by panchovilla at 2008-03-25 01:13 PM | Reply

All politicians lie. But, Hillary and Bill lie about the damndest things -- pointless things that create nothing but embarrassment when they are so easily demonstrated to be false; i.e.,Hillary's claim that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary.

I agree, someone needs to remind politicians that there are these things...called video cameras, and tape recorders.

Posted by danni


She was the First Lady at the time, travelling with her daughter to the pretty much THE warzone of the time... nah... no cameras or press at all would be there.

Funny thing is though, this probably won't hurt her in the upcoming primaries... she's still going to take Penn... and probably by a large margin.

i think calling her a liar based on this footage is a stretch.....BIG suprise from pro- Bama leftist propaganda machine CBS huh?
what do I mean?
well, there is no proof here that there was NO cork screw landing.
Also the footage of them actually getting out of the copter does not last too long, and nothing there seems to refute that they got out of the craft in somewhat of a hurry.......in other words i dont think you can watch that footage and say it was a lovely relaxed cakewalk at the landing pad. she very well may have been warned about sniper fire.

HRC in '08 !!!!!

I am John McCain, and I approved of this message ;-)

I don't think it will effect her campaign because the Clintons have been lying for years and getting away with it.
I'm just wondering when will the media and the people start calling a lie a lie? When will the media and the people stop apologizing for calling a stain on the blue dress what it was?
I think that the American people have a tendency to dismiss too easily what the Clintons do. The American people have always seemed to just turn the other way or easily forget when the Clintons do something. This has always bothered me. Hillary deliberately misled people to make it look like she had experience and would be ready on day one because of this experience. Really she didn't mislead the American people, she lied to the American people. This seems to be a pattern of the Clintons. Lie and then when they get caught, admit what small part of the story they have too, justify and make excuses and then move on as though nothing ever happened.
So if Hillary can blatantly lie or mislead when running for position of the president, what will she lie or mislead us about as president? This woman looked everyone in the eye in the crowd and on national TV and spun a lie of battle and heroism just as her husband did when he said I did not inhale, I did not have sex with that woman. What about all of the other lies and the many lives they have touched with their lies? When will the American people and the media stand up to the Clintons and say enough is enough? The Clintons who feel entitled, when will people start-saying NO to them?

She IS losing, Alleykat.

Hey, where is Corky?


Hey, where is Corky?

Posted by MrFair at 2008-03-25 01:45 PM | Reply

Chugging his Hillaraide.

The story about the plane doing the cork screw thing was out last fall and the two intertainers on the trip said it never happened. Now she has moved the action to the tarmack and the film proves that never happened.

Will she ever learn that story won't pass the snicker test?

Chugging his Hillaraide.

AKA suckling sour milk off of Hillary's wrinkled, dried up teat.

Hey, where is Corky?

Probably ordering McCain '08 signs for his yard...

I'm guessing he's part of the 1 in 5...

AKA suckling sour milk off of Hillary's wrinkled, dried up teat.
Posted by taxman


Eeewww - reminds me of a very unpleasant scene in one of Stephen King's Dark Tower books.

Hillary Says She 'Misspoke' About Wrestling Bin Laden
by Andy Borowitz

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who has been accused in recent days of padding her foreign policy resume while First Lady, admitted today that she may have exaggerated about an encounter she said she had with al-Qaeda terror mastermind Osama bin Laden in 1998.

In an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday, Sen. Clinton told host Tim Russert, "I wrestled bin Laden in his cave in 1998 and had him pinned to the ground before the bastard got away."

But a review of Sen. Clinton's official White House schedule from that period revealed that the then-First Lady was nowhere in the vicinity of Mr. bin Laden on that day, but was instead greeting a group of honor roll students at Disney World in Orlando.

"I may have misspoke about what went on that particular day," Sen. Clinton said today. "But it was a very busy time for me, what with having that knife-fight with Kim Jong-Il and all."

Reporters peppered Sen. Clinton's new press spokesman with questions about another purported exploit of hers, in which the senator claimed that she and a ragtag team of blue-collar drillers deflected an asteroid on a collision course with the Earth.

"Everything Hillary Clinton says is true," said her new spokesman, the author James Frey.
www.huffingtonpost.com

FF for the Doc.

Hillary Says She 'Misspoke' About Wrestling Bin Laden
by Andy Borowitz

Bill says she can't wrestle but boy you should see her box.

She speaks "millions of words a day". No wonder Bill spent so much time in the Oval Office.

FF Sniper!

And another FF for Conrad Carter!

She is lying because she is trying to sway the Republican voter to vote for her.

She heard they like being lied to and fall for it everytime.

"Look, there goes a Hitler.....with WMD's.......performing an abortion. KILL HIM! - oh and vote for me please!!"

So the Hillary doesn't have the "experience" she claims to have --no surprise there..

Then the Obama--who claims to have "judgment" and he obviously doesn't--no surprise there either.

FF for Doc..


Murphy

Tell the Truth Murph, you're going to vote for McCain regardless.

But I knew from the start that she was lying because she said she had to "run" for cover.

Waddle would be more like it.

Does the senator genuinely believe that her husband's policy while president was to send his wife and 16-year-old daughter on diplomatic trips that were too dangerous for him?

Bill visited the very same base 3 months earlier.

The Dayton Peace Accord was signed 5 months previous to Hillary's visit.

It was peaceful by then. A friend of mine went the same week on a USO tour through Bosnia and Kosovo. No problem whatsoever.

Today she said she was "sleep-dreprived" when she made the "misspeak".

STOP staying up waiting for those 3AM phonecalls, Hillary!

"Today she said she was "sleep-dreprived" when she made the "misspeak".

Posted by sitdown at 2008-03-25 04:28 PM"

That doesn't make any sense to me. I could see being sleep-deprived causing one to reference the wrong country, or the wrong year, or the wrong companions on the trip, etc., but I don't see how it makes you embellish a story with facts taken straight out of Corky's ass. How does that happen?

Oops - "straight out of Corky's ass" should be "straight out of Corky's wet dreams." Please forgive me, I'm sleep-deprived today.

STOP staying up waiting for those 3AM phonecalls, Hillary!

Can you imagine what a sleep deprived Hillary might say if she did have to answer the phone at 3AM?

That doesn't make any sense to me. I could see being sleep-deprived causing one to reference the wrong country, or the wrong year, or the wrong companions on the trip, etc., but I don't see how it makes you embellish a story with facts taken straight out of Corky's ass. How does that happen?

Not only that, but how do you embellish not once but a number of times over a number of months?

www.drudge.com

Like I said earlier, she's now lying about her lying.

"Sleep-deprived?" I think not Senator. I think it's more basic. Your honesty gland is being choked by your gigantic inflamed ambition node.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, apparently:

www.breitbart.tv

"I support what she said."

I suppose that depends upon your definition of "support."

The Audacity of Hoax

"I remember landing under sniper fire," Clinton recalled of a trip to Bosnia in a major foreign policy speech last week. The only problem: there was no sniper fire. Clinton today admitted a "misstatement" and tried to play it of as a "minor blip."

It isn't. Here's why: Clinton has said over and over that she (and John McCain) are prepared to be commander-in-chief and Obama is not. But wouldn't an actual commander-in-chief, or anyone else for that matter, remember being shot at? Wouldn't it of been a huge international story if guerrillas had tried to take down the First Lady and her entourage? And if Clinton is distorting what happened in Bosnia--a key section of her foreign policy resume--what else is she fibbing about?

Before the Ohio primary, Clinton relentlessly attacked the Obama campaign for supposedly telling Ohioans one thing about NAFTA and the Canadians another. Maybe they did, but it was Clinton who claimed that she opposed NAFTA from the beginning when White House records indicate she was lobbying on its behalf.

In an interview yesterday Clinton said she'd go after the votes of pledged delegates, who she claimed, rather bizarrely, are "just like superdelegates." For months there have been reports that the Clinton campaign might try and flip Obama's committed delegates, and each time the Clinton campaign said the stories were untrue. Now Clinton is telling a different story, once again.

There's a good reason the Clinton campaign routinely mocks the Obama campaign as "just words"--because their own words are often inaccurate, contradictory or hard to swallow.
The Nation -- Barack Obama may have popularized the phrase. But right now Hillary Clinton is showing the true audacity.

"It's also another example of the fog of nonsense that has increasingly enveloped the Clinton campaign," Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo blogged today. "Spin is one thing. And it's not a bad thing. But to have utility it must be tethered to some relevant facts, some kind of reality. Otherwise it just descends into ridiculousness."

There's a difference between spinning and lying. "Hillary Clinton can fail sleazy or she can fail honorably," Joe Klein of Time magazine said last week.

Right now she's doing the former.
news.yahoo.com

All this hatred for hrc, and NO COMMENTS about her religious connection with a right wing church/pastor.

It's funny how quickly that's become a non issue, just how I predicted. Where are all the obama lovers who chastised me for saying it's a non issue. HYPOCRITES to the end, the dr left.....

what a great example of media bias and the media being a shill for the clintons.
can you FOR ONE MOMENT believe that the media didnt know this was a lie all along and now that they have their boy, barry, NOW it comes out.
a coincidence?? yeah okay....sure......

oh yeah to make it appear even more as to what I just said. reports are that this last comment was AT LEAST the 4th time she told everyone about ducking sniper fire on this trip.
maybe now we know where blowjob got his chraracter from!

You have to wonder now , about all these leftwing assclowns talking about their political trips to iraq over the years and painted a gloomy picture of snipers , violence ,how you could'nt walk down main street bahgdad , all lies , just what the libs do best , the masters of deception .
Put these assclowns back in power and America will deserve everything it gets till these lack luster shitheads are sent slithering back under their rocks .

Easy On Hill, BLT. She was sleep-deprived all those four times she lied through her teeth.

Yeah , that's right bubba was there , that's when the left controlled media took that glorious snap shot of bubba using his x-ray vision , looking through the lense caps of the binoculars , how sweet was that ! What a phoney piece of shit , just like his worthless idiotic , moronic, stupid , brainless , braindead wife .
Neither one of them could be trusted to lead a pack of girl scouts into the backyard , especially bubba .

"Yeah , that's right bubba was there , that's when the left controlled media took that glorious snap shot of bubba using his x-ray vision , looking through the lense caps of the binoculars , how sweet was that !

Posted by rightnut at 2008-03-25 06:23 PM"


That WAS so fucking sweet! Here's an image of it:
bush-whacking.com

(You made one small, insignificant error. Can you guess what it was?)

I can't believe you are still alive, Rightnut, given how fucking stupid you are. (Sorry if that was unkind, but fuck dude, even you must realize it's true!)

Another example of what the Clinton's label as 'misspeak':

"I did not have sex with that woman"

In the real world we call it 'lying'.

RIGHTNUT....
excellent point.
I also wonder now just how much sniper fire and shit like that did turbin durbin and biden "see" like hillary did in this case.
you make a hell of a point and it is worth looking into.

HEY HANS...here is a chance for you to use your powers of archival for some good for a change.
HEE HEE

and yet another idea that I am repeating from another thread.
the media knew this all along and what BETTER way to take the heat off thier boy barry and his hatefilled and rasicts mentor and advisor than to pull out an OLD STANDBY....someone named clinton lying.

This is similar to her namesake Edmund Hillary--or better yet--Gore and inventing the internet and Love Story being about him and his wife. (I don't think he read that book BTW since she died in the end!)

Was the same story in her book?--Was she sleep deprived then also?

So how can we trust someone like this who embellishes or lies with the country?

Same goes for Obama--he is worse--heck they are both the pits. No judgment no leadership and let's invite Wright and Farrakan into the WH. Hate-mongers.

No thanks.

OZ--McCain was not my first choice. I liked Hunter first.

But the main issues for this election are the economy--did anyone catch the McCain speech today on the economy? A Really very very good speech.

And national security--the Dems want to ruin the economy and have no clue on NS.

Murphy

I liked Hunter first.

I'm with you there, Murph.

Duncan Hunter would've been great.

He's my Congressman here in SD.

An excellent guy and super smart and right on so many issues--no milquetoast for sure.


Murphy

Hunter and I are from the same town. We graduated from the same high school. He's a good man.

"Easy On Hill, BLT. She was sleep-deprived all those four times she lied through her teeth."

Let me get this straight, she completely fabricates a story about a trip because she is "sleep deprived" and yet she tells us she is the one we should trust to take the 3AM phone call?

Ring Ring

Hello

President Clinton, the Iranians have just launched a Nuclear Weapon toward Israel, it is supposed to hit in three minutes!

Okay, nuke Italy.

Sorry

I said nuke Italy!

Why

You said Italians

No I said Iranians

Right Italians, nuke Italy and don't argue with me dumbass!


This is similar to her namesake Edmund Hillary--or better yet--Gore and inventing the internet and Love Story being about him and his wife. (I don't think he read that book BTW since she died in the end!)

Murphy.

1. The Hillary named after Sir Edmund Hillary thing was a lie Hill made up to make herself look good.

2. Gore never sed he invented the internet, that's a lie that folks on the right repeat endlessly despite having the truth told to them again and again.

www.snopes.com

3. Erich Segal, the writer of the book "Love Story" claimed that Al Gore and Tommy Lee Jones (his roomate) both served as inspiration for the male lead, Oliver, and that another woman was the inspiration for the female lead. Gore repeated an erroneous claim that he had read in the Nashville Tennesean newspaper that claimed that the character played by Ali McGraw was based on Tipper.

Spud won't bother to educate you on the "Farmer Al" distortions or the "Love Canal" ones but suffice it to say that Al Gore's so-called distortions have a record of being cleared up after the fact by the man himself and subsequently repeated ad nauseum by folk on the right for years afterwords as truth. Sometimes by people who don't know any better but sometimes by people who know the truth and continue to spin the lie

Bottom line is the right historically distorts distortions disinenuously and deliberately and the left tends to clear things up quickly.

This is why Spud refers to the left as "self correcting" and the right as "wrong"

Be Well.

Hillary Clinton has padded her foreign policy resume with an anecdote about a 1996 trip to Bosnia in which her diplomatic entourage evaded sniper fire and made a dangerous corkscrew landing.

I fail to see just what that story did for her resume. Even if it was true it dosn't mean she has experience in anything except getting free plane rids.

Your hero Geoerge seemed to think it important, Snipe.

Considering that W's ONLY 'foreign policy experience' was one weekend drinking trip to Mexico, I think the wingnuts better lay off that line...

Shit, the guy didn't even know there were Shiite and Sunni the day we invaded Iraq

What does GW have to do with this? Mon, you just throw anything out to see if it will stick.

It has everything to do with this thread.

The thread has goes to Clinton's 'foreign policy experience'.

You wingnuts have stood up for a moron for 7+ years.

A moron who didn't know whether our allies had presidents or prime ministers, let alone their names.

Who didn't know the Shiites and Sunni didn't like each other.

You wingnuts have no right bitching about ANYONE.

Thanks for 7 years of incompetence! Not

For a second there I thought the thread's title had discovered a new Bill Clinton girlfriend named Bosnia.

Spud--I just saw the Gore clip on TV about him saying he invented the internet.

The man said it. Go check it out on U tube--

My son has a baseball game--gotta go.


Murphy

Spud--I just saw the Gore clip on TV about him saying he invented the internet.

No you didn't, Murphy.

Did you not read Spud's Snopes link?

** deep sigh **

If you repeat long disabused sound bytes unrepentently then people simply will never take you seriously.

By saying that "In my time in Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet" he is not telling a lie nor is he claiming that he "invented" the internet. No one person invented the internet. That should be obvious to anyone with even half a brain. He was an early political champion of the internet in Congress and for that folks owe him thanx and not scorn.

But don't let facts stand in the way of yer good time.

Lord knows yer bretheren on the right would have little to chuckle over if they always stuck to the facts.

Be Well.

A new book is out written by the head of the Osama bin Laden monitoring team, when the U.S. was supposedly trying to eliminate Osama. The team leader claims that they had ten opportunities, assets in place, to take out Osama, two to capture him and eight to kill him, but that Bill Cinton declined to use the opportunities.

He further claims that Bush had two opportunities to take out bin Laden that he declined. Bush refused one opportunity because bin Laden was near a mosque and the debris from the missile might have splattered the mosque. So much for being intimidated. The Islamics convert mosques to observation posts, armories, and forts, and we avoid targeting them. We also are so delicate that we decline to target funerals, including one where we could have taken out numerous terrrorist leaders, because of "humanitarian" concerns, whatever they're supposed to be.

Too bad that Hillary is probably past PMS or they might have had a chance when she was "upset," and she might have taken out the sucker.

Of course, I wonder if we might be keeping him alive as a raw sore to keep irritating the American people. Osama is a motivator.

Oh, Hillary the politician, lied. Wow! Who would have anticipated that? So, she isn't Joan of Arc, who led the troops into battle. And you recall how Joan was rewarded. Hillary's sufficiently ambitious. Maybe she can make amends by going on patrol with the troops in Iraq, or Afghanistan, without a Kelvar vest, of course.

I doubt if it will hurt Hillary's campaign. She's meeting expectations, which are not high. Why no one has ever even claimed that she walks on water.

And her PR people put out a story regarding her mother's miserable and deprived childhood in an empathy gathering attempt.

Now, Obama, who was idolized, has fallen from grace, emerging not as a uniter but as instead being in league with blatant ranting racists.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-03-25 10:03 PM

He [Gore] was an early political champion of the internet in Congress and for that folks owe him thanx and not scorn.

But don't let facts stand in the way of yer good time.

Lord knows yer bretheren on the right would have little to chuckle over if they always stuck to the facts.

Deth, are you okay, or just vegging out? You seem to have cut down on your orthographic innovation. What gives?


For days, Hillary Clinton has padded her foreign policy resume with an anecdote about a 1996 trip to Bosnia in which her diplomatic entourage evaded sniper fire and made a dangerous corkscrew landing

This is confusing. How does evading sniper fire and making a dangerous corkscrew landing provide you with foreign policy experience?

al franken forgot to put this one in his "lying liars and the liars who tell them" book!

NANC

Volume 2 for sure LOL

Well, I sure understand how it feels to be sleep deprived and under fire. But she doesn't. Kinda sad. Reminds you of those rascals who used to wear medals and tell war stories only to get caught in thier own lies. ""All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand." Macbeth Quote (Act V, Sc. I).

hey potato(e) prick.,....

you said

2. Gore never sed he invented the internet, that's a lie that folks on the right repeat endlessly despite having the truth told to them again and again.


yeah we know. and lets see. mccain said we would be in iraq for a 100 years with men and women fighting and dieing the entire time.

yep I get it now. the left can repeat this lie, but if the right does the same shit, well its just not allowed.
okay, as long as we have it straight.

and again I say...a part of this that may be just as important is the media's involvement. I will not believe that they didnt know all about this lie each and every time it was told and only now did they come up with the truth. the clintons were obviously spoonfeeding the media with what to use and what not to use. or in the least, they just looked the other way.
I guess it could also be that until now, her credibility wasnt REALLY a national issue until she went out talking about that 3 am phone call.
bottom line. the clintons will do anything...lie, cheat, steal, or other to get back to the white house.
other??=== look at the long list of people who have mysteriously disappeared or been injured or worse and the one thing in common they ALL HAVE........the clintons.
IM JUST SAYIN......

I love how she blows the whole thing off as a "mistake". Regular people who aren't constantly spewing bullshit don't make mistakes like claiming to have been fired on by snipers when it never happened. That is the type of event normal people tend to remember vividly. And, of course, normal people can distinguish between fantasy and reality.

But the funniest part of this whole story is that the press is asking the comedian Sinbad about this. Why? Because he was there on the same trip as Hillary. Hillary is claiming "foreign policy" experience based on a trip she took with Sinbad when she was first lady.

Enough with the misspeak. She didn't misspeak, she lied. That or she really did forget or she has this fantasy in her head that it really happened. The choices are she lied, she can't remember things or she spends her waking hours somewhere over the rainbow.

Bush "misspeaks" every time he talks about torture or just about anything really. Do we really want another congenital liar who shows total contempt for the American people as President?

. Do we really want another congenital liar who shows total contempt for the American people as President?

Let's see. Hillary "lied" about Bosnia. Obama "lied" concerning his ignorance of his preacher's rantings.

Are you a McCain man? No, you're "blue," which is a code word for Democrat.

Well, it appears as if you'll need to sit this one out.

But then, since both Democrats now contesting the Democrat nomination appear to be unfit for election, maybe it'll be a brokered convention, Then there'll be Gore and Kerry ... Well, maybe you'll have to accept a pathological liar as a substitute for Hillary or Obama, so long as he isn't a congenital liar. You know that you need to play the hand you're dealt. And that's what you have.

Johnson believes that Obama lied about Wright. I'd ask him how he comes to the conclusion that Obama lied but it would be a waste of time. Johnson is one of those Republicans who wants nothing but that Democrats don't become president or form a majority in any legislative or judicial body.

This is absurd, of course, but we hear it all the time here, on rightwingradio and FOX News. Johnson is not interested in debate or reaching common ground, it is enough for him that his side wins, no matter how.

Obama represents a change from this partisan and divisive mindset deliberately fostered by Bush/Rove, rightwingradio and FOX. That is why the Johnsons of this world -- literally as here and figuratively everywhere -- will never vote for him.

*sigh* oh Hillary, what were you thinking?

This could only happen to her. Really, can you see this happening to anyone else?

given the headline, I thought this was about Bill, and some chick named Bosnia coming forward with more BJ allegations.

Lies, lies, lies...the Cliton house of cards.

Outside of the "I misspoke" lie, let's consider the statement that she speaks "millions of words per day"

There are 24 hours in a day X 60 minutes per hour X 60 seconds per minute is 86,400 seconds per day. When that number is divided by ONE million that would mean (assuming that she never sleeps, eats, etc.) she speaks on average 11.5 words per second, or 694 words per minute, or 41,666 words per hour.

With such difficulties with numbers, it makes perfect sense that her health care plans, her tax schemes, etc. do not add up.

given the headline, I thought this was about Bill, and some chick named Bosnia coming forward with more BJ allegations.
Posted by kwrx25


No, that headline would be: "Clinton Blew It All Over Bosnia"

That or she really did forget or she has this fantasy in her head that it really happened. The choices are she lied, she can't remember things or she spends her waking hours somewhere over the rainbow.

Maybe she's got the Walter Mitty syndrome.


Maybe she's got the Walter Mitty syndrome.


tapokita tapokita tapokita....

"Maybe is depends on what the definition of lie is". HRC

But of course, Obama knew about his pastor's rhetoric and choose to stay since he needed this church for his run of the IL senate race. He would not let the pastor be next to him at his howdy doody speech in IL to announce his run for POTUS. So Obama is no better and quite a bit worse than any other politician. He lies for political expediency and then he says we can change all this by voting him in for POTUS.

What a load of crap this empty invisible suit is called Obama.

Apparently, he has put some of the thoughts on American hate in his book "Audacity". Not written like they are his own words but "feelings" from the black community or some such. And apparently, they resemble Wright's rantings.

So instead of taking some yahoos word for it--I am going to go buy the cheapest copy I can find and read it for myself.

Murphy

Maybe she's got the Walter Mitty syndrome.
Posted by Gal_Tuesday


How about her conversation with Sir Edmund Hillary? HAHA!!! lol - what an incredible liar.

Hillary Clinton, the Tommy Flanagan of American politics.

"Yeah! That's the ticket!"

If Hillary had been blowing it when she was supposed to be blowing it we might not be in this mess today...

"This could only happen to her. Really, can you see this happening to anyone else?"

Nothing happened to her. You say "This could only happen to me" when a bird shits on you or something. This is something she did by conscious choice.

She lied. It isn't the first time she's been caught either.

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