Do you think she held Monica's hair out of the way or just watched from the other room?

It's a good thing Monica and Mrs. Clinton never came to fisticuffs over this.

Spud would so hit that.

Too bad she's gay.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-03-19 07:59 PM

Lesbian friends of mine here in LA dispute that, calling Huma "an opportunist", ala Anne Heche.

So if you can provide Huma with any way to advance her career, she may want to cut herself a slice of Solanum Tuberosum.

Then again, maybe not.

It's a good thing Monica and Mrs. Clinton never came to fisticuffs over this.

Posted by MrFair at 2008-03-19 08:06 PM

Are you kidding? Hillary was probably relieved that Monica was taking that little wifely duties off her plate, so to speak.

It's a good thing Monica and Mrs. Clinton never came to fisticuffs over this.

Posted by MrFair at 2008-03-19 08:06 PM

Perhaps a cage match would have been in order?

From the article:

On Jan. 21, 1996, the first lady and the president privately toured an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art. That afternoon, Lewinsky said, she and Bill Clinton had a sexual encounter in the hallway by the private study.

So what would be better in American politics... a discussion of the issues or a big ugly mud fight... Keerist Ona Krutch !

Do you think she held Monica's hair out of the way or just watched from the other room?

Posted by Rightocenter

I think Hillary was working the back of Monica's head like a manual bicycle pump.

There is some humor in imagining Bubba back in the WH as First Hubba. You know he'll have a staff and INTERNS. And we all know that even if they're fat and ugly he won't care.

There was a leak that claimed that Hillary was overheard complaining that she needed sex too. Ol' Bubba must have been spread thin cause particular he ain't. Of course I'm not sure I'd want my dick inside of that shrew's jaws, and maybe Bubba feels the same way.

You guys are brutal. Maybe she deserves it since she is the one who released the Rev. Wright info.

Did anyone notice that Obama is under fire because Rev. Wright said 9/11 was the fault of America but McCain isn't under fire despite the fact that he worked hard to get into the late Jerry Falwell's good graces in 2006 and Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on AMERICANS! McCain knew Falwell had blamed Americans before he courted and became pals with Falwell. Why do you think the press gives McCain a pass? Is it because of race? Read about it here:

Hillary at White House During Trysts


A menage a trois? Too kinky for me.

RA101 - wrong thread

A menage a trois? Too kinky for me.
Posted by CalifChris


Eeewww - more like a menagerie.

More like a debauchery!

"Menagerie, debauchery
Debauchery, menagerie
Let's call the HOLE thing off!"

A menage a trois? Too kinky for me.

Posted by CalifChris

No spot for you in McGreevy's cabinet.

To think she went through all those histrionics about righteous anger angry over Bill's two-timing, in order to win the sympathy of the general public, when all the time she knew of his many affairs over 20 years.

She wrote, directed, and acted in the role of the betrayed wife, knowing full well that she really, deep down, didn't give a shit. Cynical to the max.

TFD - Shh...McGreevy is a DEM - we don't talk about Dem perverts in here, only Republican toe-tappers, drug-crazed religious male prostitute customers and other assorted right-wing characters.

DANFORTH - that page looked like a resume for Bill Clinton or Larry Craig.

TFD - Shh...McGreevy is a DEM - we don't talk about Dem perverts in here,
Posted by MrFair

Sigh...I get tired of saying this...
Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion:

www.drudge.com/news/105477/
driver-i-sexed-both-mcgreeveys
www.drudge.com/news/105296/
spitzer-resigns
www.drudge.com/news/105258/
gop-threatens-impeach-spitzer

and endless amounts of other links...

Ix-nay, Fred. Ix-nay.

It's the White House and it's fucking HUGE!

You turds act like it's a studio apartment they were all in.


.....and, as usual, the homophobic right is displaying their fantasies of Hillary and Monica.

Who the fuck really cares? Laura hung the "Do not disturb" sign on the door after GW and Jeff Gannon slipped into the bedroom together..

Did anyone notice that Obama is under fire because Rev. Wright said 9/11 was the fault of America but McCain isn't under fire despite the fact that he worked hard to get into the late Jerry Falwell's good graces in 2006 and Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on AMERICANS! McCain knew Falwell had blamed Americans before he courted and became pals with Falwell. Why do you think the press gives McCain a pass? Is it because of race? Read about it here:


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Posted by RA101 at 2008-03-19 09:32 PM | Re


this is too easy....you see, jerry falwell wasnt an advisor to mccain and mccain didnt keep going back to him FOR TWENTY YEARS and if that doesnt make a difference to you, then it wont matter what anyone says in the face of this real problem for obama.
mccain also didnt have his children there listening to racial blast after blast blaming the white devil if any of his flock didnt get whatever they wanted. I dont recall fallwell being a classwar monger either.
and yes falwell and others have said that God will damn america, but he said that would happen if we continued falling into the liberal abyss and when this racists preacher said God damn america, we all know that he wasnt speaking in the bibical sense no matter what excused obama gives or how many times he INSULTS pastors all over america for trying to give us some moral equilivant to the hate filled screaming of this racists pastor.

and to the subject......so hillary was there was she?
I agree. some WH personnel had to know what was happening.....

Was there a threesome involved. Is there a missing cigar here or another stained dress. Are we ready to have the first lesbian president?

A friend of ours, a Police Captain, is friends with one of Hillary Clinton's secret service during Bill's days in the WH. He told my friend Hillary had a lover - female.

"this is too easy....you see, jerry falwell wasnt an advisor to mccain and mccain didnt keep going back to him FOR TWENTY YEARS and if that doesnt make a difference to you,"

Logically it shouldn't when you consider John McCain knew of Falwell's views and statements about 9-11 BEFORE he tried to establish a relationship with him while Barack had a long relationship which included his affirmation of Christianity, his marriage and his kids baptisms. I see Obama's relationship more based on the church and his family and less on Rev. Wright's political views, while McCain's relationship with Falwell is purely political, purely opportunistic. At least Obama acknowledges that Wright's statements are not acceptable, has John McCain ever spoken out against the statements of Falwell since he tried to kiss his ass???? I think that if McCain can tolerate Hagee and others then whatever Obama's relationship was is no worse.

"He told my friend Hillary had a lover - female.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

AU - that story has been floated off and on for years and is probably not particularly helpful to the discussion.

Remember the YouTube guy who swore he did drugs and had gay sex with Obama in the back of a cab? (He ultimately failed 2 lie detector tests, by the way)

"TFD - Shh...McGreevy is a DEM - we don't talk about Dem perverts in here, only Republican toe-tappers, drug-crazed religious male prostitute customers and other assorted right-wing characters.

Posted by MrFair"

I think you're going to have to change your name after that one.

There's something I've always wondered about the White House...

How much of the building is actually separated off for personal living space vs. the general office/ceremonial areas? Is there much in the way of any real privacy anywhere, or are there pretty much aids and employees everywhere?

AU - that story has been floated off and on for years and is probably not particularly helpful to the discussion.
Posted by SanAntonioRogue

And not very helpful when trying to digest breakfast.

This was all released because of a law wuit, yup the republicans really are that hard up to hear more stories about Bill Clinton's genitalia. I guess the 40 million dollar letter that you read in the front of a Penthouse magazine that Ken Starr wrote for them just wasn't enough . . . . . .

The White House schedules are going to be harsh on the Clintons. They justify a wide assortment of stories like this one, which use the sked to shed new light on an old controversy.

The Hillary lesbian lover rumors are completely baseless -- no one has come forward to attach their names to the allegation. Every female politician on the planet faces this kind of rumor, because some people still can't handle the idea of women in positions of authority.

Why are we still obsessing about this? Will it make Obama, McCain or even Hillary a better or worse president?

The last seven years with President Numbnutz should have given us a clue that we need to base our votes on something other than titillating sleaze.

Because of Bill's dick we got Numbnutz and his Dick along with Iraq, Katrina, torture, recession, the dollar worth shit, massive debt and deficits and gas at $3.50 a gallon. Sleazy as Clinton's behavior was give me that any day rather than Bush and Cheney.

BinBL is right

discussions of Hillary, or even Obama for that matter, are moot:

RASMUSSEN POLL: McCain Now Leads By Double Digits:
McCain 51% Clinton 41%
McCain 49% Obama 42%

"Because of Bill's dick we got Numbnutz and his Dick along with Iraq, Katrina, torture, recession, the dollar worth shit, massive debt and deficits and gas at $3.50 a gallon. Sleazy as Clinton's behavior was give me that any day rather than Bush and Cheney."

Bravo!

Sleazy as Clinton's behavior was give me that any day rather than Bush and Cheney.

Yes, but had he had the country's interest at heart he would have resigned in 1999, Al Gore would have easily won election in 2000 and so on.

The Clintons are selfish before Anything else.

I think you're going to have to change your name after that one.
Posted by SanAntonioRogue


SAN - I presented both sides didn't I?

To what purpose are these important facts brought up at this time? There is none but to try to make someone look bad years after she was the victim of her husbands philandering.

Some people will use any issue or non-issue to try to defame politicians in an election year. Of the three major D/R candidates all have had total crap put out against them were they weren't participants.

Grow up.

by what mechanism was the WH schedule of HRC finally released, I mean whose decision was it that it was released yesterday....iF THE cLINTON'S HAD ANY INPUT, they were stoopid to let it come out yesterday while the Wright story is still at a pinnacle. This shit knowcked Wright roght off the front pages today. sory i'vs had a little too much to fdrink his mornig

It's the White House and it's fucking HUGE!

You turds act like it's a studio apartment they were all in.

Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-03-19 11:02 PM

It is large, but the Secret Service knows what is going on in every inch of that building, especially when the President is in residence.

How much of the building is actually separated off for personal living space vs. the general office/ceremonial areas? Is there much in the way of any real privacy anywhere, or are there pretty much aids and employees everywhere?

Posted by katieberry at 2008-03-20 08:44 AM

About a quarter of it is "personal" space, but when the First Family is in residence, the Secret Service knows each of their whereabouts and who they are with pretty much at all times. They have to, if they are going to do their jobs.

The Hillary lesbian lover rumors are completely baseless -- no one has come forward to attach their names to the allegation. Every female politician on the planet faces this kind of rumor, because some people still can't handle the idea of women in positions of authority.

Posted by rcade at 2008-03-20 09:10 AM

As I stated earlier, I know a lot of lesbians in the entertainment community here in LA, and while most of them are Hillary supporters, they are mostly split on whether or not she is gay or bi. However, most of them are in agreement that Huma Abedin is "milking" (all puns intended) her relationship with Hillary to the fullest, and is embracing the speculation that they have some type of romantic envolvement.

The Clintons are selfish before Anything else.

Agreed though I don't agree that Bill should have resigned over that. Witch hunts should not be rewarded with success whether in Salem, Massachusetts or in Arkansas as part of the despicable Richard Mellon Scaife's Arkansas project.

They are selfish because if they can manipulate events so that Hillary gets the nomination then it will split the Democratic Party as badly as Bush and Cheney have split the Republican Party. Sometimes when you are in competition your opponent is simply better than you and after having given it your all and you are still losing then you should suck it up and bow out gracefully if you can. Obviously they can't.

Hillary has no sex life. Why should she? Her campaign is everything to her, including her sexuality. It is the ultimate triumph over Bill, for her.

That's why only Bill's supercharged ego tells him he wants her to win. Really he doesn't. But for her, he would be Obama's biggest supporter.

Perhaps he should start thinking about that. Obama would certainly give him an important job. More important than moping around the White House criticizing everything she does that wasn't his idea.

"Hillary has no sex life. Why should she? Her campaign is everything to her, including her sexuality. It is the ultimate triumph over Bill, for her.

That's why only Bill's supercharged ego tells him he wants her to win. Really he doesn't. But for her, he would be Obama's biggest supporter.

Perhaps he should start thinking about that. Obama would certainly give him an important job. More important than moping around the White House criticizing everything she does that wasn't his idea."


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm.....what??????
?

I don't believe Hillary is a lesbian but I am pretty sure that Chelsea is. She and Maureen Dowd are very close

What a FUN thread!!

Lefties get to do all the Hillary bashing they missed out on when the GOP had all the fun back in the 90's.

It must be cathartic to some.

WOMAN- what about my post do you not comprehend?

Why is this story getting such play in the
Headline News, other than, wait for it...

that Liberal Media Bias...

yah...Liberal Media Bias my @ss...


This only has legs because of conservative media
wonks like Drudge and the major news corps follow
suit...sad commentary on what constitutes news.

It must be cathartic to some.


Posted by Corky at 2008-03-20 12:40 PM

And completely depressing to Clintonistas.

Anyone who supports Hillary should just get use to this. If she does get the nomination there will be no escaping this. If you think the Republicans are going to leave this alone your making a big mistake.

"This only has legs because of conservative media
wonks like Drudge and the major news corps follow
suit...sad commentary on what constitutes news."

Wow, what a very 2002 thing to say. I would counter that here in 2008 the MSM, on-line, you name it -- they are ALL news whores. TDR just happens to still get tips from sources whom the MSM only wish they had calling them instead.

In terms of this particular story, I'm not sure who is shocked that one of the first calculations done upon the release of Hillary's schedules was "Hmmm.. do ya think she was there when IT happened?". I bet even Gloria Steinem had her 1999 calendar out at the kitchen table.

It's the White House and it's fucking HUGE!

You turds act like it's a studio apartment they were all in.

Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-03-19 11:02 PM

It is large, but the Secret Service knows what is going on in every inch of that building, especially when the President is in residence.


About a quarter of it is "personal" space, but when the First Family is in residence, the Secret Service knows each of their whereabouts and who they are with pretty much at all times. They have to, if they are going to do their jobs.

Posted by Rightocenter at 2008-03-20 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

What's your point? The SS job is to protect the president, not to play family counselor. I'm sure many SS agents have seen shit that makes them question how they protect a certain person, but that's the job.

Pretty ballsy, I'm guessing that the Secret Service had to be aware of this, if not actively trying to keep Hillary away from this particular hallway.


Posted by Rightocenter at 2008-03-19 08:54 PM

Comnonsense-

As usual, if you had bothered to read before reacting, you wouldn't need to be reminded of my point.

Do you need me to expand on my 8:54pm post to make it simpler for you to understand?

"Hillary at White House During Trysts"

Experience

That's what those 3am calls that she was getting were all about, Doc.

If Hillary can't figure out what is going on in her own bedroom, how on God's Earth can she figure how to run this great country? She is the most clueless politician ever.

If Hillary were to win the White House, Osama Bin Laden could be staying in the Lincoln bedroom and she wouldn't have a clue.

Fuck em over here, or fuck em over there, i am game either way.

My name is Bill Clinton and I approve this message.