Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, March 14, 2008

Video of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, pastor and mentor to Barack Obama, has been posted. The Reverend defends his most famous constituent and attacks Hillary Clinton, saying, "Hillary ain't never been called a nigger."

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"Hillary ain't never been called a n****r."

Well, hey, that's appropriate.

At least this guy isn't a racist. You can tell that from his "sermon".

no, but i have equated her with the anti-christ and 12th mahdi...guilty...

Obama owns a reverend?

Holy crap.

Quite literally.

Oh yeah, just more right wing garbage.

Sincerely,

Hussein 726

"no, but i have equated her with the anti-christ and 12th mahdi...guilty..."

sunni muslims would call the 12th mahdi the anti christ as well :)

yes muslims do believe in christs return

Rev. (I hesitate to refer to him as a reverend) Wright is a dingbat. This is the reason I don't buy into organized religion; you may become associated with some real idiots. I think Obama has already referred to Wright as the "crazy uncle" type, but after a while wouldn't you as a parishoner finally say "enough is enough"?

Another observation: It seems like Wright is doing more to hurt Obama rather than help. I don't understand it.

both obama and hillary need to go to everyone around them and say

people, we can talk for ourselves

shut the f. up

Another thought: it really makes it tough for Obama to say this race isn't about race when a person associated with him keeps on interjecting race. I know the reverend is not Obama's mouthpiece and I know that Obama has distanced himself, but the media (Faux News especially) is just lapping this stuff up.

I can see where he's coming from, but yeah-keep it to yourself there, buddy.

This guy is a loon. I'm really surprised his church hasn't lost its tax exempt status.

This shit gets better every day. I'll bet McCain is enjoying watching both these campaigns.

I'm really surprised his church hasn't lost its tax exempt status.

Hopefully it does. Of course the IRS has to watch itself because if you go after this church and not Falwell or Robertson's church, then you look as though you are targeting democrats.

"I'm really surprised his church hasn't lost its tax exempt status."

I think Trinity is in trouble over just that. He's stepped over the line into politics too many times.

Did Falwell or Robertson actually say their stuff from the pulpit though?

Falwell did on numerous occasions and Robertson prayed for the death of a supreme court justice.

Pirate, here is a thread on Obama's church and its exemption status:

www.drudge.com

yes, klifferd - and my Yeshua will slay him with the sword from His mouth!

"Did Falwell or Robertson actually say their stuff from the pulpit though?"

Many times.

"Of course the IRS has to watch itself because if you go after this church and not Falwell or Robertson's church, then you look as though you are targeting democrats."

That's already happened. The IRS has launched an investigation against the United Church of Christ denomination because Obama addressed the annual General Synod meeting last year.

He addressed them not as a presidential candidate, but as a member of the denomination who talked about his own faith journey. Most experts seem to be baffled as to why this investigation has been initiated.

Here's the text of his speech in case you want to see what he actually said...

www.ucc.org

Note: there is a difference between the investigation of Trinity as a church, and the UCC as a denomination. They are 2 separate issues.


What's funny/ironic as hell is that here we have a real racist who can say what he pleases without being pilloried for it in the media, while a non-racist like Geraldine Ferraro takes heat for innocuous/stupid statements.


"Hillary ain't never been called a n****r."

Well, hey, that's appropriate.

At least this guy isn't a racist. You can tell that from his "sermon".



Posted by Corky

Let me help you out. A good comeback to this would have been:

"Yeah, but Obama hasn't been called a c**t by rightwingers."

"Yeah, but Obama hasn't been called a c**t by rightwingers."

... yet

He addressed them not as a presidential candidate, but as a member of the denomination who talked about his own faith journey.

----

In my opinion, you should even get behind the pulpit at all if you're a presidential candidate regardless of what you talk about it.

You are a presidential candidate all the time.

And Corky continues to give us no reason to vote for Hillary, just one slam on Obama after another.

The girl has an obsession of hate.

"In my opinion, you should even get behind the pulpit at all if you're a presidential candidate regardless of what you talk about it."

He wasn't in the pulpit - he was addressing a convention.

These two candidates will be so damaged by June 10th, date after which there can be no more primaries, that McCain must be jumping for joy. Considering how McCain has many factors going against him, the Dem's damaged candidates and party is a great thing for him.

100 more years, 100 more years!

ok...well, that's different.

A couple of weeks ago, I wrote about John McCain being "honored" to receive the endorsement of the pro-Apocalypse, pro-destruction-of-Israel preacher John Hagee, an endorsement which John McCain has refused to repudiate, even after the revelation of Hagee's bigoted and outright nutjob ideas. Now it turns out that Hagee isn't the only crazy religious bigot with whom John McCain wishes to be associated with:

On February 26, McCain appeared at a campaign rally in Cincinnati with the Reverend Rod Parsley of the World Harvest Church of Columbus, a supersize Pentecostal institution that features a 5,200-seat sanctuary, a television studio (where Parsley tapes a weekly show), and a 122,000-square-foot Ministry Activity Center. That day, a week before the Ohio primary, Parsley praised the Republican presidential front-runner as a "strong, true, consistent conservative." The endorsement was important for McCain, who at the time was trying to put an end to the lingering challenge from former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, a favorite among Christian evangelicals. A politically influential figure in Ohio, Parsley could also play a key role in McCain's effort to win this bellwether state in the general election. McCain, with Parsley by his side at the Cincinnati rally, called the evangelical minister a "spiritual guide."

And what does Parsley preach, you might ask? Well, as it turns out, Parsley is notable for calling for the United States to be at war with Islam. Not violent Islamic extremists, mind you--the religion of Islam itself.


www.outsidethebeltway.com

The girl has an obsession of hate.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Using "girl" as an insult is about as misogynistic as it gets.

Well, unless the user is a pussy to begin with.

I guess the issue really is who gives the endorsement and when.

They also can hold a candidates' night for all office-seekers in a race. But according to guidance provided on the IRS's Web site, churches are "absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office."

...

Donald Tobin, an associate dean at Ohio State University law school, who formerly worked for the Justice Department on nonprofit tax matters, adds that nonprofits cannot make endorsements or engage in a "pattern and practice that is designed to support one candidate over another."

online.wsj.com

I think that a pastor at any of his church functions when acting as the pastor, they should not mention anything negative/positive about the candidates.

If they are outside of a church function not acting as a pastor, they can.

Using "girl" as an insult is about as misogynistic as it gets.

Well, unless the user is a pussy to begin with.

Posted by Corky


In one of the deabates I remember Hillary saying:




"I'M YOUR GIRL!"



Was she insulting herself?

Was she insulting herself?

Posted by member2586

That's back when she was courting the young, college crowd. Unfortunately, they knew she was an old, lying bitty.

SCANDALOUS!

www.drudge.com

Obama steals a copy of the NYT!

Do you expect the race- and gender-baiting to get worse in the general election?

P: Even though the RNC has indicated that they are kind of scared about how to attack Hillary Clinton without charges of sexism being leveled against them, and Barack Obama without allegations of racism, you'll still have ancillary individuals and groups who will make these attacks--that, for example, Obama used drugs at one time. There's ample evidence that, at least with regards to juries, they tend to view defendants more harshly when they've committed a crime that seems racially congruent, like a black person committing a more blue-collar crime--robbery, drug dealing and so forth. If they play that up, it could be problematic for him. If they question his patriotism, again, that could be problematic for him, because it raises these implicit biases about whether he's American enough. Republicans will probably play on these things, and perhaps his relationship with his pastor Jeremiah Wright, who openly espouses a black value system, to raise implicit biases in the electorate. And I think that poses some significant challenges for Obama.


Well, Republicans and Corky.

www.blog.newsweek.com


Yes, Gal, we must not look at the race-baiting pastor/mentor behind the curtain.

Have another sip of Obamaide?


Corky, like I said yesterday, I was willing to give Gerri the benefit of the doubt due to the chemotherapy, and there was some truth to what she said. But she was an idiot for saying Barack was "lucky" to be a black man, and for charging him with reverse racism. She made dumb statements with racial connotations. Do I think she is a racist, no, considering her civil rights background. Do I think she let herself get carried away due to her feminist qualities, yes. I really think that there are those like Gerri that believe that it is Hillary's turn and are hellbent on electing a woman, party be damned. Those are the people that turn me off. I can deal with, and will listen to, those that come forward with valid points/facts as to why they are supporting Hillary and why they think she makes a better candidate. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but to back a candidate solely due to the fact that the candidate falls within your demographic is a sign of an ignorant voter (this applies to Obama supporters as well).

"I'M YOUR GIRL!" hardly seems like using gender as an insult.... but then, I don't see things from the lower vertebrate perspective.

There are a lot of "that"s in the above post instead of "who"s. I apologize for my grammar, I am in numbers mode right now.

this guy makes malcolm x look like a choirboy!


"Wright is a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee -- the sort of largely honorary, advisory body that in recent days has recently been used mostly to throw people off who say controversial things.

The Obama campaign couldn't immediately say whether he'd remain on the committee."

Why doesn't Obama force his pastor/mentor to resign?

Keeping him on is tantamount to agreeing with his rants.

Why doesn't Obama force his pastor/mentor to resign?
Posted by Corky

Corky's right. Obama should fire him from his Campaign finance committee immediately!

The Democrats have long been at the politics of demagoguery, promising every group that it would get its "wish list" at the expense of everyone else. "you" are entitled to it. Because ...? Well, such a premise requires little or no justification.

And the politics of "victimization" is rampant. You have been victimized because you are - choose category: 1) black, 2) female, 3) Hispanic, 4) poor, 5) rich, 6) a student, 7) tall, 8) short, 9) male 10) homosexual, 11) heterosexual, 12) single, 13) married, 14) add additional classifications at will.

Of course, being victimized provides you with "entitlement." This entitlement is satisfied at the expense of others.

Just hope that your group gets more than it costs them.

Just give me your votes and I'll provide for victimized "you."

People don't recognize just how dangerous and divisive the doctrines of Rev. Wright, adopted by Mr. Obama, are. As polarization increases, and the emphasis is not on how I can "earn" more by contributing something, it degenerates into how can I get more from a pie that remains the same size, so that for every transfer someone is disadvantaged. But screw them, they deserve it.

We develop a third world mentality, which indeed afflicts some of our population today. And we look to the government as an instrument to enrich us at the expense of "bad guys," the others.

Just look at how these concepts destabilized the African country from which Mr. Obama's father hails. The pitting of group against group for the spoils has generated only strife and resulted in less for all.

The Democrat Party has introduced some very dangerous propositions to the American electorate, which can only culminate in ... Oh, what the heck. This is "idealism," embraced by youth which favors what is misrepresented as "equality" without regard to its consequences.

Obama comes from a background of hatred, class hatred through his communist mother, and racial hatred through a combination of circumstances. This led to his enrollment in a church and adoption of the precepts of his mentor, a black separatist racist, who advocates special entitlements for blacks and implicit in his message is revenge for wrongs. Just what America needs, someone who derides its values and hates this country and its majority population, seeking vengeance.

"The Democrat Party has introduced some very dangerous propositions to the American electorate, which can only culminate in .."

Be afraid, Johnson, be very afraid!





Boo!!!

People don't recognize just how dangerous and divisive the doctrines of Rev. Wright, adopted by Mr. Obama, are.

Where is your proof that Obama has adopted Wright's doctrines on this issue?

Have Rev., Wright, you ever been called a n.....? I suppose so. You ever been targeted by low-life black rapist-robber-murderers as those two young girls with promising lives at Auburn and University of North Carolina were?

Don't grievances against predators count? Do they offset your plaint?

I'd rather be called a name than brutally murdered?

Is "the "N" word used derisively because it represents a stereotype fostered by observable behavior that is perceived as indicative of the actions of members of the black community, and extended to innocent members trying to live decent lives? Is there input that gives rise to use of the "N" word to describe people who are dependent, lifelong multigenerational welfare receipients, disease infested, aggressive violent criminal, and whose incapabilities require affirmative action and setasides to enable them to function in society?

Stop preaching racial hatred, Rev. Wright. The outlook you maintain provides a sense of justification for low lifes who do target people as victims based on race.

You're there Rev. Wright with your subliminal message cheering these miscreants on.

Why doesn't Obama force his pastor/mentor to resign?

Good question. People who make absurd statements (see, Power and Ferarro) should not be associated with campaigns.

Obama's long time preacher (and now a campaign advisor) will cause some whites to recoil from his candidacy.

Obama must create lots of distance here... otherwise whites will lump Obama and his preacher in the same pile. And why not? If this guy's been preaching hate all these years, it certainly brings into question why Obama's family continue to be "fed" that crap from the pulpit.

But will the press really dig into this and ask Obama tough questions? Time will tell.

OOHRAH

You're probably right. But, I don't remember Bush distancing himself from Falwell and Robertson as they said Muslims should be killed, AIDS was God's wrath on the homosexuals, the tsunami was 'God's wrath' upon the Muslims, or any number of other inflammatory stretches of the imagination. And they were VERY involved in electing George Bush - Moral Majority and all that.

So, we're going to have a double standard now?

He shouldn't be a campaign advisor in any case. Other than that, America has given preachers with far louder megaphones and millions of followers a complete pass on their irrational rhetoric. Bush never once said their statements were wrong or inflammatory to millions, and in some cases billions of God's kids on Earth. And all the while the "Liason Office of Evangelical Outreach" (sic) in the White House never said a peep publicly either.

Oh, and there's a thread here about McCain's 'spiritual advisor' who advocates wiping out the Muslim world.

if there's racism, it's certainly being directed in Obama's direction much more than it ever has for McCain or Bush before him.

I don't recall Obama's pastor mentioning killing millions of people...ever. He has spoken out voraciously about racial injustice that unfortunately is alive and well in 2008 America. Legally we've made leaps and bounds to level the playing field, but the undercurrent is still quite divided and tipped heavily to Caucasian's advantage.

I related a personal experience of my own on another thread:

While I was waiting for the waiter to bring back my check, a successful African-American friend of mine went outside around 10 pm to flag down a cab. When I got outside I saw several empty cabs pass him by. He'd been out there close to 5 minutes and not a single cab stopped for him. He was not in hip hop garb, but dressed rather nicely. As soon as I got out there we got one right away. That's in Manhattan. That's reality for many blacks even now. So, I'm not talking about workplace equality. I'm giving an example I witnessed of unspoken racism that simmers under the surface. It's sad.

AMERICANUNITY @ 9:28, I also live in Manhattan and know that 90% of the cab drivers here are immigrants from Africa, south Asia or central Asia. Now if these people discriminate against black people, could it be becaue an overwhelming majority of violent crimes committed in and around the city are by blacks and hence these people are scared?

And even leaving that aside, how on earth is this a fault of white Americans for which bigotry of the Wright kind is justifiable?

Obama better do something quick because from watching this story on "Morning Joe" this morning it is going to be big. I don't think Obama should waste time debating whether his preacher is worse than any one else's preacher or advisor, the thing is this will turn off millions of white voters.
Hilary is dancing and singing this morning, her prayers were answered. Could be she has realized this story has been lying there for a while and that is why she has stayed in the race.

I don't think Obama should waste time debating whether his preacher is worse than any one else's preacher or advisor, the thing is this will turn off millions of white voters.
Posted by danni

Exactly. But it's going to be tough. All I'm hearing and reading is that Barrack and Michelle have been loyal to this guy for 20 years. And now they are tying her "First time I'm proud to be an American" remark to the Pastor and his teachings.

About time this came out. I have been having a heck of a time watching all my uppity NY liberal Obama supporters hemming and hawing trying to explain this any which way.

You curse Bush to death for being a right wing religious fundamentalist but now 'The Chosen One' has been exposed as a left wing religious fundamentalist and racist and separatist. Worse still, the right wingers at least love America, the left wingers hate America too!

Matt,

I use to watch the 700 Club every day. My point is that all these leaders say Fucked Up things and have for years. So now it is an Issue? When was one President under ANY pressure from their statements? We seen them in the White House 100s of times. Falwell is one of the Primary reasons Reagan was elected. So when Rudy was Endorsed by Robertson was he Turned Down? "No" They have Millions of Followers don't they?

The Founding Fathers:

John Adams (the second President of the United States)

Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."

From a letter to Charles Cushing (October 19, 1756):
"Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, 'this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.'"

From a letter to Thomas Jefferson:
"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

Additional quotes from John Adams:
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"

"The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

"...Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretense of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."

www.aynrand.org

Keep The Preachers Away From Government !


-Sarge

Worse still, the right wingers at least love America, the left wingers hate America too!

Come On Now; Killing The Constitution And The Bill Of Rights Is Loving America?

The Founding Fathers Were Not Religious Zealots !

Here:

I have examined all the known superstitions of the World, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world . . . . The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind . . . to filch wealth and power to themselves. [They], in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.
Thomas Jefferson

It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God.
Thomas Jefferson

Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson

I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
Thomas Paine

My country is the world, and my religion is to do good.
Thomas Paine

Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law.

Thomas Paine


Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.
George Washington

. . . the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction.
George Washington, 1789, responding to clergy complaints that the Constitution lacked mention of Jesus Christ

If they are good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa or Europe; they may be Mahometans [Muslims, followers of the Prophet Mohammed], Jews, Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists....
George Washington, to Tench Tighman, March 24, 1784, when asked what type of workman to get for Mount Vernon

. . . I beg you be persuaded that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.

George Washington, to United Baptists Churches of Virginia, May, 1789

All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean [conduct] themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.

George Washington

When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.

Benjamin Franklin


-Sarge

You gotta admit, Sarge...lots of fundamentalists go way overboard...someone should tar and feather that Phelps. HOWEVER, Falwell, Robertson, Baker or any others you may want to name NEVER called out for God not to bless America, but to DAMN America. None of the others gave an award to "Calypso Louie" Farakhan either. If you want to compare Wright to the others, I think it's a loooooong stretch. The only other religious persons I can think of for a valid comparison are Ayatollah Khomeini, Al Sadr and Nasrallah.

Sarge

You are desperately trying to avoid the point, are'nt you. Agreed - Wright, Falwell and Robertson are NO different and all agents of hatred.

Which is why in the case of Robertson and Falwell, you absolutely DETEST all politicians affiliated with them or the ones who appear to even slightly defend them (using the usual argument - these folks are otherwise good, they run huge charities etc etc).

Hence - to be logically consistent, and honest - you HAVE to absolutely detest a politician who associates with Wright too - one who has been associated with him for over 20 years, considers him to be a mentor and still defends him.

So will this expose make you DETEST and HATE and OPPOSE Obama just like you do the same to politicians who are associated with Falwell and Robertson?

You dont even have the guts or honesty to answer that, do you?

Play it over and over and over and over.....

patterico.com

Obama has been a part of this crap for 20 years.

If I was at a church and the preacher started talking like this--I would grab my kids and get out of there.

It's disgusting. He's kinda scary. His words are over my head--I don't get it--how someone of the cloth can even talk like this. And people actually sit there and listen to it and praise it and attend to it for 20 years!

online.wsj.com

And Obama should excuse the Reverand--or the Rev should resign. The longer he is in--the longer this story and the videos get played over and over and over again.

Murphy

This is not Christian teachings.


Murphy

I suppose that supprt for this Pastor and Obama, and excusing their association is evidence that the last bastion of racism in the United States is with the liberals. The lefties have such a low opinion of black people that they exempt them from conforming to any standard.

And this is so blatant, so many of the leftist posters have stated that "they want Obama elected to the presidency BECAUSE he is BLACK. Well, they are outright unabashed racists as they say the determining factor in his selection is RACE.

Of course, the most polarized racism in a community is found in the black community, which has voted for Obama on the basis of his race, at a rate well over 90%. And they say that the vote was based on race.

White folks on the other hand, have voted for a black man, in many instances more than 50% of whites supporting black Obama.

So, who is racist? Black folks are racist as a group, voting for candidates with equivalent programs and making a decision based on race.

Of course, Mr. Obama is a "black racist" as evidenced by his long-time associations. And white flks excuse black racism since their expectations for black people are so low.

Any white politician with such racist affiliations that he maintained over 20 years, would be considered "unclean," and rightfully so. If Barack Hussein Obama isn't elected to the presidency, I suspect that with all the reveleations concerning his racism, his communist affiliations, his associations with terrorists both foreign and domestic, the hatred against the United States in his circles, and the like, as well as his corrupt dealings, he will not be reelected Senator.

White supportfor Obama was given before the fact that he is such a sleaze ball became more a matter of public knowledge. Of course, there are some whites who are self-abasing, who will support a black racist affiliate of Wright, Obama's mentor, and Farrakhan despite the fact that they are constantly vilified by them..White lefties who support racists need treatment for masochism. They're really sick people.

To exorcise racism frm the United States, this country next has to focus on making blacks as antagonistic to racists in their midst as whites are.

Send Obama back to the racist cesspool from which he emerged. He stinks.

Send Tiny Johnson back to the racist cesspool from which he emerged. He stinks.

There.

Fixed That For Ya!

Be Well.

Jestgettinalong,

"NEVER called out for God not to bless America, but to DAMN America."

Take A Gander At These:

adultthought.ucsd.edu

So What Is The Difference ? I'm Starting think that there is some "Other" issue why this Pastor and "Calypso Louie" Farakhan are worse than the rest.

-Sarge

Send Obama back to the racist cesspool from which he emerged. He stinks.

Posted by Johnson

can I have an Amen??

"can I have an Amen??"

Will a 'fuck you' do?

It had to be CORKY or NANC

Will you ever stop with these way over stated and dramatized threads?

At least it didn't start with Hussein Obama.

NEXT!!!

You dont even have the guts or honesty to answer that, do you?

Posted by matt1605 at 2008-03-14 01:00 PM


Of course he doesn't. What are the odds he's black and believes as Obama does, that Mr Wright is right and has been for 20 years?

I read Obama's church's website 5 or 6 months ago and saw no mention of anything other than a full commitment to africa and an afro centric culture.

Up until the last few days I was going to sit this election out, but no more. After hearing and seeing the evil that is Mr. Wright and his church, I'll be voting McCain and there's nothing Obama or his minions can say at this point that will stop me from doing so.


NOW DO YOU FAGGOTS BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THAT HUSSEIN OSAMA WANTS TO DESTROY AMERICA?????


His God-damned pastor said it himself!


You are a bunch of suicidal closet Mohammed lovers!

I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
Thomas Paine
posted by Sarge

This is so good, it needed to be posted twice.

Obama is no Thomas Paine.

This is so true it needs posted thrice.

Obama is no Thomas Paine.

This is so true it needs posted thrice.

Obama is no Thomas Paine.

This is so true it needs posted thrice.

People would have called that Byitch Hilliary a Nigger if they though they could get some traction out of it.But in the end Hilliary is like Bush and every other criminal in the US Congress because names don't stop,let alone deter them,not even one little bit.

As far as Obamma's pastor is concerned he should also realize that white people can't blame every single,trifling thing in their lives on black people - like the good pastor does - in reverse!

Kris_P_Bacon isn't a Tasty Breakfast Meal. THAT only needs to be said ONCE.

Larry Mohr

Oh look, a dog lover, wink wink, thinks he's insulted me.

send them all back to where they came from if they wish to go yep that would be somewhere in the middle of third world afucka. If you dont like it here in the good ole U.S.A. then leave!!!

Sarge nice quotes tell me what books you got these out of please.


so many of the leftist posters have stated that "they want Obama elected to the presidency BECAUSE he is BLACK.

Who? When?

last bastion of racism in the United States is with the liberals.

Last bastion? Oh you mean those neo-nazi, kkk, and just plain backward ass redneck liberals?

Johnson, you're an embarrassment.

You know, the more I read shit like this from black men of power, the less I feel for those blacks who buy into the brainwashing that the white man is responsible for their plight in life. Seems to me, if early white settlers hadn't brought black slaves to America, the black population would still be living in the jungles of Africa.

And as far as the black population in prison, look at who is committing the crimes? Doesn't take a genius to do that math! I'm sick of the black man crying about his situation.

You want to gangbang, then pay the price, but don't blame me. You want to knock up all your hos' and create disfunctional families, pay the price, but don't blame me! Get a fucking job, shut the hell up and contribute to society!

Not my most PC blog, but I'm tired of blacks blaming the white world. And by the way, I don't hear the Mexicans complaining!

Not my most PC blog, but I'm tired of blacks blaming the white world. And by the way, I don't hear the Mexicans complaining!

Could It Be This Never Happened To Them:

www.withoutsanctuary.org

How Would You Feel ?

-Sarge

Sarge, I'm not saying the black race hasn't had a troubled past, but this is the 21st century. Are the Jews still sitting around waiting for had outs from Germany? No, they have stepped up to the plate and haven't let past experiences hold them back.

The Farrakans of the black community are to blame for the "entitlement" attitude most blacks have. Obviously, Obama hasn't let them bring him down or hold him back.

We all have an equal chance of success in America, regardless of past transgressions on a particular race.

Well TIGERBALM at least you tangentially addressed the topic unlike people such as dethspud and Hans, who seem so upset, so distressed by the exposure of the character of the candidate they idolized and embraced that they can do nothing but seek to divert attention from the reality of his situation and be personally offensive to other posters. Well, that's the last refuge of the inarticulate or those whose positions the facts contravene, so they resort to the "baffle 'em with bullshit" defense.

Do you believe that lying sack of shit, the black racist Obama, when he says that he didn't know the anti-American positions of his mentor, Rev. Wright, who openly embraced and presented an award to Louis Farrakhan, leader of the black racist Nation of Islam. Obama was a member f the church for 20 years, had Pastor Wright marry him, baptize, his children, and provide him with guidance, and announced that the white-hating, America-hating Rev. Wright was his mentor?

Or do you think it just got too hot in the kitchen? I think that Rev. Wright's views reflect Mr. Obama's views, but that he recognizes that exposure of the fact that he, Obama, has a record of close affiliation with a rabid black racist, will scuttle his attempt to secure the nomination.

I posted this:

so many of the leftist posters have stated that "they want Obama elected to the presidency BECAUSE he is BLACK.

You replied:
Who? When?

I'm not going to do the research for you, but if you want to search their posts, I think that you'll find it in Buffalo Bob's or dethspud's statements, possibly both.

I posted:
last bastion of racism in the United States is with the liberals.

You replied:
Last bastion? Oh you mean those neo-nazi, kkk, and just plain backward ass redneck liberals?

Not at all. The groups you enumerate have been marginalized and neutralized. They are considered "outlaws," unwelcome in polite society.

I used the word bastion, a defended stronghold, as the leftists support positions that would retard or advance people with race being the denominator, thus degrading blacks by describing them as a group of inferior people unable to participate in society on a level playing field, and penalizing whites as individuals by using racial criteria.

You posted:
Johnson, you're an embarrassment.

Indeed, I expect that I am for you and other lefties by putting a mirror in front of your face and confronting you with the incongruity of your views and positions.

You can reject the premises on which you've been acting, and embrace human decency rejecting racism. It's difficult since it is so ingrained, but strive and you stand a good chance of success.

Do you reject Obama yet, or will you compose an apologetic for him and attempt to justify him?

Come on, TIGERBALM, will you denounce Obama as a scumbag racist, whom you no longer support?

I'm not a racist but a realist. Amerikkka is a racist nation built on slavery.

I have been sent by Allah/black Jesus, to save the Palestinians from the gutter rat jews.

Amerikkka will lose in Iraq and around the world, the chickens have come home to ro--o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oost, my niggahs.


Vote Obama Hussein in 08!

For all your bloviation, Johnson, I have to grudgingly admit you've got some real brass ones to try to convince everyone you have the moral high ground when you yourself are guilty of at least two blatant lies just in today's posts.

Or did you conveniently forget that you deliberately altered the content of an article and posted it to try to make Obama look bad, and make the situation seem like something it wasn't to better suit your agenda?

And did you also conveniently forget that you posted a proven lie about Obama's sexuality and drug use knowing full well that his accuser had failed not one, but two lie detector tests just 3 weeks ago? And then even when confronted with that truth you refused to admit your duplicity.

Shame on you. You most certainly have no moral standing to sit in judgment of anyone else.

I think that you'll find it in Buffalo Bob's or dethspud's statements, possibly both.

Actually, I think you'll find that Johnson is talking out his ass again, as usual.

Spud take on Hill's Vagina and Obama's Blackness?

Anyone who votes for either candidate specifically because they are, respectively, a woman and a black man are fools.

The only bigger fools are those who would not vote for them specifically because of gender or race.

Spud includes Tiny Johnson on that latter list, btw.

Be Well.

"Hillary ain't never been called a n****r."

Actually yeah, she has.

By John Lennon...

Woman is the nigger of
the world
Yes she is...think about it
Woman is the nigger of the world
Think about it...do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won't be slave, say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say she's trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us
Woman is the nigger of the world...yes she is
If you don't belive me take a look to the one you're with
Woman is the slaves of the slaves
Ah yeah...better scream about it
We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that she's too unworldly to be our friend
Woman is the nigger of the world...yes she is
If you don't belive me take a look to the one you're with
Woman is the slaves of the slaves
Yeah (think about it)

We insult her everyday on TV
And wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she's young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart we put her down for being so dumb
Woman is the nigger of the world...yes she is
If you don't believe me take a look to the one you're with
Woman is the slaves of the slaves
Yes she is...if you belive me,
you better scream about it.


Be Well.

Reverand Wright speaks the truth, Amerikka is built on the backs of blackman.

Never mind that he and I are half white, we reject the entire lineage of our white devil forefathers as racist bastards and bitchs.

GODDAMN AMERIKKKA!

Vote Obama Hussein in 08!

"I'll be voting McCain and there's nothing Obama or his minions can say at this point that will stop me from doing so.

Posted by Kris_P_Bacon"

Now THAT'S pretty rich. Like there was ever a snowball's chance in hades you were going to anyway. Somehow we'll go on without you.

According to the 1860 census, America's population was 31,183,774.

The price for manumission for the slaves was paid in blood. Most fpeople who died or were wounded in this cause were those white devils, denouced by the black racists, Rev. Wright and Farrakhan.

The Price in Blood!
Casualties in the Civil War

At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll reached 700,000. The number that is most often quoted is 620,000. At any rate, these casualties exceed the nation's loss in all its other wars, from the Revolution through Vietnam.

The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates:

Battle deaths: 110,070
Disease, etc.: 250,152
Total 360,222


The Confederate strength, known less accurately because of missing records, was from 750,000 to 1,250,000. Its estimated losses:

Battle deaths: 94,000
Disease, etc.: 164,000
Total 258,000

The leading authority on casualties of the war, Thomas L. Livermore, admitting the handicap of poor records in some cases, studied 48 of the war's battles and concluded:

Of every 1,000 Federals in battle, 112 were wounded.

Of every 1,000 Confederates, 150 were hit.

Mortality was greater among Confederate wounded, because of inferior medical service. The great battles, in terms of their toll in dead, wounded, and missing is listed on this site:

You sort of wonder what kind of ingrates these entitlement blacks are in demanding reparations from the very people who died to free the slaves.

Would Allah call Hillary a nigger?

Barack Obama: On My Faith and My Church

The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.

Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.

As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.

Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.

The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.

Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.

With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.

Hey SanAntonioRogue, some people just can't be alienated. Some people are natural dupes.

Continue your support for the racist Obama. After you finish with him and Rev. Wright, and Louis Farrakhan, The Aryan Nation and David Duke also need a able and dedicated defender.

Now will you be an "equal opportunity" defender of racists, or is your practice in defense of racists limited to black racists? Are you a specialist?

Of course, if Rudy were the nominee, would we ever see anything like this...? (I changed very few words)

Rudy Guiliani: On My Faith and My Church

...My church...has...drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling actions (their anti-educational stance regarding condoms in the most AIDS-ravaged part of the world).

Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the actions that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any action that disparages our great ideals or serves to divide us from our brothers. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the actions by the Catholic Church that are at issue.

Because these particular actions by the Catholic Church are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of...my membership in the church.

"the racist Obama."

Have you direct proof, or is this guilt by association?

"Some people are natural dupes."

And some are natural liars. And you've been a busy boy at that today, haven't you?

So it appears as though Obama is opposed to some of those outrageous comments. It's reassuring to know that Wright has stepped aside to join Obama's campaign.

How hard will the press push this? Will Hillary get the blame for helping promote this?

"The Farrakans of the black community are to blame for the "entitlement" attitude most blacks have. Obviously, Obama hasn't let them bring him down or hold him back."

Buzz you obviously do not know Farrakans Ideology He is about Black Separation, No Where Near "Entitlement, the Direct Opposite .

Official Platform
The official platform of beliefs as stated by Elijah Muhammad in Message to the Blackman in America published in 1965 are as follows verbatim[4]:

Full and complete freedom.
Equal justice under the law.
Equality of opportunity.
The right for people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves to be allowed, to establish separate state or territory of their own -- "either on this continent or elsewhere." (funded in full for six years by the U.S. and another six years partially funded by the U.S.)
Freedom for all Believers of Islam now held in federal prisons, as well as freedom for all black men and women now under death sentence in innumerable prisons in the North as well as the South. (despite their crimes)
Freedom to accept or reject the establishment of a land of their own.
An immediate end to the police brutality and mob attacks against blacks throughout the United States.
Equal employment opportunities, until a separate territory can be established.
For the government of the United States to exempt our people from ALL taxation as long as blacks are deprived of equal justice under the laws of the land.
Equal education, but separate schools up to 16 for boys and 18 for girls on the conditions that the girls be sent to women's colleges and universities. The platform also stated that the teachers for these schools would be black as well.

A prohibition on interracial mixing and intermarriage. The intention was to maintain the purity of Islam.

The official platform also states the beliefs of the Nation of Islam:

1.Belief in the One God, Whose proper name is Allah.

2.Belief in the Holy Qur-an and the Scriptures of all the Prophets of God.

3.Belief in the truth of the Bible, though tampered by human history.

4.Belief in Allah's Prophets and the Scriptures they brought to the people.

5.Belief in the "mental" resurrection of the dead -- not in physical resurrection but mental resurrection.

6.Belief in the Judgment Day. The first such judgment would take place, as God revealed, in America.

7.Belief in the need to separate white and black people into separate territories.

8.Belief in justice and equality for all peoples.
Respect for American laws and citizenry. (except those laws determined to be rooted in bigotry)

9.Belief in the hypocrisy of racial integration.
10.Belief that the American economy would not be able to furnish enough jobs for unemployed black Americans.

11.Belief that Black Americans should not be forced to fight in wars "which take the lives of humans".

12.Belief in the respect (but in Muslim tradition, not the equality) of Black women.

13.Belief that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master Wallace Fard Muhammad, July, 1930 -- the long awaited Messiah of the Christians and the Mahdi of the Muslims. Further, that God would bring about a universal government of peace.

That is what they believe No Entitlement, Now they do believe that something needs to be addressed about 400 years of Slavery with not even a Coke and A Smile. Which helping build America not by Choice but by Whips and Chains just seem fair to me. I know that concept is very Revolting but lets say I stole you from your parents put you in chains whip you until you build The Grandest House in the World then once you have finished it, I leave you on the corner without a nickle or thanks for the Free Work, how would you and your Parents feel ? Then when your children and grandchildren walk past it they can only do it during Daylight and could not even Deliver your Groceries to the Front Door but only th Back Door.

-Sarge

" Rev. Wright, and Louis Farrakhan, The Aryan Nation and David Duke"

Conflation on aisle four!

"The official platform also states the beliefs of the Nation of Islam:..."

Don't be quick to condemn: the "official platform" of Christians is to kill their children for sassing them.

"It's reassuring to know that Wright has stepped aside to join Obama's campaign."

Oohrah, please. I expected better from you.

He didn't step aside to join the campaign. He's retiring from the ministry - he's 67 years old.

He didn't join the campaign. He had been a member of a largely honorary spiritual advisory committee - while still in his ministry.

He has now stepped down from the advisory committee.

I am amazed that with all of the so-called Christians that post on here that there was only one single indirect mention of a key point of "Reverend" Wright's sermon.

That is his repeated statements that Jesus wasn't a Jew, he was a Black Man. He pointedly attacked Hillary for her European ancestry and Rudy for being Italian because Romans were white Europeans. He stated repeatedly that Jews were white but that Jesus was Black.
I may not be a Biblical Scholar but I could swear that Jesus was a Rabbi in the Jewish religion. I don't know if there were any Black Rabbis in pre-Christian days but no place in the Bible does it say that Jesus was a Black Man.

Yet not a peep out of the Christians around here about that.

Another funny point I read today, not having to do with the suject at hand was that the Barack "Slumlord Lover" Obama campaign is demanding that Hillary disclose all of the earmarks she has in the current budget.

Yet they don't talk AT ALL about the ONE MILLION DOLLAR earmark Slumlord Lover has in the current budget for Michelle "America Hater" Obama's employer, University Of Chicago Hospital. You know, the hospital that "Patient dumps" poor Black patients as charged by the US Department of Health and Human Services, charges poor Black patients 5 1/2 times as much for the same medicines than they charge rich White patients and spends over $10 million a year on collection agencies to hound these same poor Blacks who can't afford the inflated prices they are charged for the same sevices as rich White people are receiving....

Now you understand why Barack "Slumlord Lover" Obama's Semi-Universal Health Plan is designed the way it is. It brings more money into hospitals like the one his wife works for. Hospitals that are supposed to be "Not For Profit" yet, in the case of UC Hospital made a PROFIT of over $200 MILLION last year and is expected to make a PROFIT of $240 million this year even without BO's earmark... but he has to find some way to help them pay his wife $273,000 salary like they did last year for working PART TIME!!!

"You sort of wonder what kind of ingrates these entitlement blacks are in demanding reparations from the very people who died to free the slaves."

Johnson,

You are really Smoking Some Good Shit !!

1st the Civil War was not about Ending Slavery.

2nd the Slaves Never asked to come to America in the first place.

3rd they Built and Cultivated All of America for Free, with there own cost of Whips and Chains !

Do you know how many slaves died just on the Journey to America ?

www.slaveryinamerica.org

www.liu.edu

memory.loc.gov

Then when freed this happened:

www.withoutsanctuary.org

Did You Take A Long Good Look ?

-Sarge

Boy Shyguy. Before you worry about the hate you perceive in somebody else, you probably should take a really close look in the mirror.