Time once again for the Baby-Sitting Test. Given everything we know about George Bush to date, how many would let him watch their kids for them?

The facts should speak louder than the lies, but not in Washington DC.

I'm keeping up with the Red State debate on the Iraq War. It's easy, given no one there has said anything novel concerning the place in four years.

Welcome to the wonderful world of neoconservatism, where it still sends them into a rather large dither to even state Iraq is "complicated".

Vote Democratic. Or else brace yourself for another four years of people pissing on your leg and telling you it's Chanel No. 5.

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it "too politically sensitive."

Yeah, and not putting it online or sending out a press release will quash the interest? Actually this is clever. As if the report's contents aren't (apparently) inflammatory enough, the Pentagon's sending up a flare.

"Lost" mails, 'secret reports' - all making Bush and Co, look like the thieves and liars they are.

And the righties STILL can't comprehend why we talk about a lack of accountability.
Amazing-isn't it?

Zed-at no time-would I ever so much as loan bushitter even a broken stick off one of my trees.

Yet still you will hear right wing nut jobs like Coulter who will continue to claim exactly the opposite of what this report says....why????
Because they are liars, always have been, always will be.
I still love the title of Al Franken's book:
"Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right"

For cryin' out loud.

Could just one of the righties that post on this site grow a pair and acknowledge what a bunch of lying, crony , traitors this administration is?

I doubt it.

Just like the lies told by His Father to garner support for the FIRST Gulf War. IE Saddam Hussein's Military throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait and that over 200,000 Soldiers(Thanks NorthGuy3) were at the Saudi Arabian border ready to invade Saudi Arabia. What lying shmucks. BOTH Wars were about Control of Middle Eastern Oil.

Larry Mohr

Yesterday a newcomer came into our senior center poolroom and directly uttered this wisdom :
the Democratic party is morally bankrupt.

One of our regulars, a self-described life long Republican, told him in so many words that he was full of shit.

The guy stood there for awhile and then quietly slithered away.

After the fool wondered off we had some mutual agreement that there's plenty of tomfoolery on both sides of the aisle.

''There is no question but that there have been interactions between the Iraqi government, Iraqi officials and Al Qaeda operatives. They have occurred over a span of some 8 or 10 years to our knowledge. There are currently Al Qaeda in Iraq,'' former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in a interview with Infinity CBS Radio, Nov. 14, 2002.

Same thing that's been said over and over, including in another thread on the front page about this same report, but this statement is true. The problem with it is that it leaves open the idea that they were working together in those "interactions," they were not, but that doesn't mean those meetings between the parties Rumsfeld listed didn't happen.

BOTH Wars were about Control of Middle Eastern Oil.


LOL... in '91 we had a huge coalition and support of pretty much the entire world...

Guess ole HW Bush changed his mind about the oil after he had decimated all of Iraq and could have simply taken the oil.

"after he had decimated all of Iraq "

if daddy did the job
then why is it taking jr. so long to get out?

if daddy did the job

How long did it take us to go through Iraq's military? that's thanks to '91

then why is it taking jr. so long to get out?

Because Muslims are savage douchebags who instead of deciding to start a better world for themselves after Hussein was thrown from power, decided instead a better idea would be to start making bombs and cutting off heads because those Muslims believe in a different type of Islam than these Muslims do.

After the Berlin wall was torn down, the Germans came together and built their country up and they are now a world power. The Iraqis had that chance, but Sunnis don't like Shiites and vice versa, so instead of prospering they blew their opportunity that few if any in the ME had...

Great job Religion of Peace & Puppies!

"after he had decimated all of Iraq "

well, now we know how well Rob knows the meaning of words like "decimate".

How about the meaning of "deceiving the American people for seven years" Rob? What does that mean?

"Protecting us" I suspect would be your guess.

Did he hide the report down his pants?

/it worked for Berger.

No, he hid it in his bro. It worked for Fox.

"The Iraqis had that chance, but Sunnis don't like Shiites and vice versa, so instead of prospering they blew their opportunity that few if any in the ME had...

Great job Religion of Peace & Puppies!"

Reality bites Rob. We tried to tell y'all BEFORE we wasted 2 trillion dollars and 4,000 American soldier's lives but we were "unpatriotic" for telling......the truth.
It is ridiculous now to whine about the "Religion of Peace and Puppies" which was there before the first American set foot in Iraq.

How about the meaning of "deceiving the American people for seven years" Rob? What does that mean?

Liberal spin?

rob
maybe thats yer opinion about muslims
i'm not asking you that

still doesnt' answer the question i posed

because the first part of the question was your remark about how ghwb decimated all of iraq

if he decimated it, then how come there is a battle waging on at all?

how come saddam can keep them from fighting like "douches" as you say with a weak small army that the usa could defeat in a second, but the usa super army with the leadership of jr. can't stop them from fighting

saddam didn't kill 600,000 + in 4 years with his army fighting the sects

can't say its because he would kill them if they rose up, cause thats what the us army is doing. 600,000 + so far.

maybe its because an army isn't a police force... and jr. thinking by decimating the iraqi police, he could maintain order with his super man army.

It is ridiculous now to whine about the "Religion of Peace and Puppies" which was there before the first American set foot in Iraq.


Or its putting the blame where it belongs.

The Iraqis were given an amazing gift and could have done something really great in their country (they still might, but now its come at a high cost), but instead they chose to cut off heads and make bombs and shoot women and children.

No spin there. Fact.

"Could just one of the righties that post on this site grow a pair and acknowledge what a bunch of lying, crony , traitors this administration is? "


I thought it was a violation of TOS for any of us to come to agreement. I'll have to re-read them.

"The Iraqis were given an amazing gift "

the gift of, destroying their infrastructure and police force.

the gift of bombing their cities

Iraqi civilians "thanks america for bombing our cities, twice."

"but instead they chose to cut off heads and make bombs and shoot women and children."

doesn't bush say, this is al qaeda imported into iraq?

how come saddam can keep them from fighting like "douches" as you say with a weak small army that the usa could defeat in a second

Because for decades he would kill anyone who stood up to him including entire villages, and EVERYONE thought he still had WMD (because that's what he wanted everyone to believe). Because Hussein doesn't care about how he got the job done or bad press... rape and murder your wife and daughters, gas an entire village... he didn't give a shit.

Have no doubt if we took the same course of action not a single soldier would ever be KIA in Iraq again... but we do care about how we win, and how we are seen in the world.

but the usa super army with the leadership of jr. can't stop them from fighting

Because we don't take the same tactics to stop Muslims from being Muslims.

saddam didn't kill 600,000 + in 4 years with his army fighting the sects

The US hasn't killed 600,000 either. That number was caused by Muslims killing Muslims.

Iraqi civilians "thanks america for bombing our cities, twice."

Posted by klifferd


Can you name for me another war (Except the USA in Afghanistan) where the attacking nation went to such efforts as we did in both Iraq wars to avoid civilian casaualties?

you can't, because its unheard of...

And by the way, since it was their police force that was oppressing them under Hussein's rule, to get rid of them was a gift.

Kliffy I don't expect you to blame your own kind... But you and I both know that the only reason Iraq is the way it is right now is because Sunnis decided they needed to kill Shia because they don't follow the same rules and vice versa.

When France was liberated from the nazis they rebuilt their country, they didn't start murdering their liberators and people from other regions of France... Same with damn near every European nation freed from Nazi or Soviet rule...

Hmmmm... what's the difference between Europe and the Middle East?

"""but that doesn't mean those meetings between the parties Rumsfeld listed didn't happen."""

The statement you've picked is a bit misleading, but when you look at :

"""Bush (Jan. 28, 2003): Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own.
Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes.""""

or

"""Cheney (Sept. 14, 2003): If we're successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it's not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it's not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11 . . . """

Those statements are lies, used to sway people's opinion as to the validity of the iraq invasion. Assertions that Saddam was colluding with AQ, linking him repeatedly with 911. That's what he should burn for.

"The Iraqis were given an amazing gift and could have done something really great in their country (they still might, but now its come at a high cost), but instead they chose to cut off heads and make bombs and shoot women and children."

Actually, had Bremer not conducted the early reconstruction efforts so incredibly, stupendously incompeteently, if he hadn't disbanded the military, if they hadn't prevented all the low level Baathists from doing their jobs. etc. things might not have gotten so bad over there. However the stupendous corruption under the Bush regime and the ideologically driven selection of people to run the reconstruction effectively provoked the chaos and animosity of the Iraqis towards the US.
Virtually everything that has happened in Iraq, before, during and after the invasion and during the reconstruction was a result of decisions that people who knew about the region advised against.
Arrogance, corruption and extreme ideological prejudices caused this disaster unnecessarily.

rob,
i agree with you, there are some serious fucktards in iraq, afghanistan, all over the muslim world


the difference between europe and the middle east is education

i have said it, will say it, and believe with all my heart.

the true way to "beat" the middle is
education. It will lead to moderation of beliefs and destroy fundamentalism

islam is not the villain, just as christianity isn't the villain. but ignorance and perversion of islam based on ignorance is.
perversion of christianity has brought many pains.. but christianity as a stand alone is beautiful

i hope we can stabalize iraq... my suggestion would be to build a true education system, so the next generation of iraqi's will be a true shining example of hope in the middle east

"The Iraqis were given an amazing gift and could have done something really great in their country"

YEAH!

Similar to how 50 years of American Sponsored terrorism against the people of Cuba gave them "an Amazing Gift to do something Really Great with their country"!

I think our greatest "gift" to the Iraqi people was the WH insisting that installing a convicted felon wanted in two countries for fraud to head their oil ministry was "good" for their country!


And announced today (another Great Gift from Bush Co):

"The White House has indicated it will not remove a loophole quietly inserted into a budget rule which allows contractors abroad to keep silent if they observe fraud or abuse on US government contracts.
The proposed rule, put forth by the White House Office of Management and Budget last year, exempts all companies who do work overseas from a new regulation requiring US contractors to report waste, fraud or abuse they encounter while doing work for the government.
More than $100 billion in contracts have been awarded for work in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last five years."

"i hope we can stabalize iraq"

I hope THE IRAQIS can stabilize Iraq and I hope they do build a great education system. Us doing it for them would have minimal benefit.

LOL... in '91 we had a huge coalition and support of pretty much the entire world...

Guess ole HW Bush changed his mind about the oil after he had decimated all of Iraq and could have simply taken the oil.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 12:01 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Hey You dumbshit. Saddam Hussein wanted to control the Oil in Kuwait and was given tacit permission by the United States to do until Saudi Arabia pitched a bitch. First Gulf War was about Oil and the Second was the Bush Regime and His Oil buddies wanting to control the Iraqi Oil Fields. Next time Robbie DO Get more educated upon the subject matter at hand so You don't look so damned stupid.

Larry Mohr

"Guess ole HW Bush changed his mind about the oil after he had decimated all of Iraq and could have simply taken the oil."

No...they ran into an unexpected road block...an Iraqi Parliament which refused to go along...went on vacation rather than approve PSAs for the oil companies. Hell, them ungrateful Camel jockies....how dare they refuse to give us our prize....I know....we'll "surge" the troops....that'll teach em....what???? Still won't sign???? What?? The profits are pouring into the Iraqi Treasury?????? Brilliant planning neocons.

Great job Religion of Peace & Puppies!

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 12:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

You mumble on about Islam, yet you either don't know the true history of Christianity or you choose to ignore it's bloody history because it doesn't fit with your perception.

Now THAT'S what I call 'convenient'!

Ha!

Stick that in your A_Hole, Rob.

Give 'em hell, Larry!

...Christianity or you choose to ignore it's bloody history...

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Next time Robbie DO Get more educated upon the subject matter at hand so You don't look so damned stupid.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-03-13 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag


Yeah Rob. You should go to a site that specializes in what ever it is you want to know. Simply log in under your real name and ask questions.
What could possibly go wrong?

"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"

FF for LIBERALBADASS

101 gets a FF

I'm betting the papers are in Sandy Berger's pants!

tis impossible to believe that this topic is still around after all of these years.
this door should have been closed and the label of liars should have been nailed on the foreheads of everyone in the administration a long time ago.
yet there's still a minority, that ever present 19%, of idiots who believe.

how can they still believe? too much wading about in the shallow end of the gene pool? inbreeding? lack of education? no education? the tv is stuck on fox? just plain dumb? born again(and still didn't get it right?) evangelicals?

i've no idea... don't think i really want to know.


all the best

Amazing that Rob thinks Iraqi's were "given a gift" when we bombed their country's infrastructure into oblivion, literally divided communities with concrete barriers, told them democracy was the political answer to all their worries, and directly empowered the biggest thugs in Iraq for short-term tactical gains. And that's just the short list. That's got to be the stupidest f'n thing I've ever read from Rob...and that is saying a hell of a lot.

Anyone who actually thinks people in a sovereign nation with an unfamiliar and fundamentally different culture are going to even recognize, let alone seize upon, an "opportunity" like the one Rob pretends we meant to give them. Anyone with a page from a history book can cite a multitude of examples when people relied on promises made by foreign governments, the United States being one of the biggest offenders, only to later be abandoned and slaughtered later when backs were turned. You'd have to be a f'n moron to turn against everything you've ever known so that you could embrace an outsider's vision. And because you're too stupid to see the forest for the trees, Rob, I'll spell it out: Islam distrusts outsiders as a basic tenant. And it is that way for historical and practical reasons, not just because muslims are inherently extreme, evil, or violent, or any of that BS. And spare us all the argument that since the bombs are guided, they are not a concern for the populace. It is absurd to think people make any distinction when they are under attack. Then again, its Rob...the guy who talk directly out of George Bush's ass.

I'm betting the papers are in Sandy Berger's pants!

~JR

Fer fucks sakes Dude, fire yer writers and get some new material.

On Topic?

BushCo is one of the most secretive and sleaziest admins in the history of the country.

They put their foot on the neck of the NIE that sed that Iran had stopped their nuke program in 2003 and continued to fearmonger and warmonger for a nuke strike on Iran all the while.

They lied about WMD and continue to. They lied about the need for war in Iraq. They lied about global warming. They lied about torture. They lied about spying on US citizens. Etc. Etc. Ad Nauseum. Ad Infinitum.

If the Bush administration sed the sky was blue Spud would hafta run outside to check before he believed them at this point.

Anybody who looks at these folks at BushCo as anything other than crooks and war criminals is a reality disconnected, traitorous, piece of shit and a partisan hack to boot.

Be Well.

Bush Regime and His Oil buddies wanting to control the Iraqi Oil Fields.

Is that why China is getting oil contracts?

Fer fucks sakes Dude, fire yer writers and get some new material.

On Topic?

BushCo is one of the most secretive and sleaziest admins in the history of the country.

Posted by dumbfuck creepy Manboy


Get some new material followed by a rant about "BushCo".

What a stupid fuck.

, yet you either don't know the true history of Christianity or you choose to ignore it's bloody history

What's the keyword there Commonsense? HISTORY... Christianity has a violent and bloody HISTORY...

every fucking time someone points out the savagery of TODAY'S Muslims some assfucking liberal comes around to run his mouth of about the crusades or the inquisition like its a fucking original thought...

"I'm betting the papers are in Sandy Berger's pants!"

No, I'm sure they are hidden with the WMDs.

Yeah Rob. You should go to a site that specializes in what ever it is you want to know. Simply log in under your real name and ask questions.
What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by 101Chairborne


FF...

I was just curious, how would I got about getting a kangaroo to... ahhhh nevermind...

No...they ran into an unexpected road block...an Iraqi Parliament which refused to go along...

Let's discuss how stupid this is using liberal arguments:

Bush wants war with Iraq to take their oil. So he manipulates evidence, lies, silences dissent, controls the media. Convinces congress to authorize war. Lies some more. Starts an illegal war. Kills thousands. The United States Military now controls the entire nation, most importantly the oil fields. the oil is at his fingertips, all he has to do is take it.

Then the Iraqi parliament says "no."

Bush says, "OK," sulks...

Right...

Is that why China is getting oil contracts?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 01:47 PM | Reply

If You really had a firm grasp on whats going on You would know that Sistani put a monkey Wrench in Bushco's Plans. Make no mistake about it they are still putting pressure upon the Iraqi Government to give them control of the Oil Fields.

Larry Mohr

rob haha

the way i see it is... gw lied at first, and everything since has been him trying to cover his ass.

and while covering his ass, shits got way out of line. he's going to "stick the course" cause it makes him have to think less... if the objective is only to win, then stay at it, only 4000 lives lost so far...

he didn't get control of the oil because he's too busy protecting it at the moment.

he can't get the oil until it doesn't have to be protected by the us government... otherwise it would be obvious stealing.

any no one would have it

Make no mistake about it they are still putting pressure upon the Iraqi Government to give them control of the Oil Fields.

The most powerful military in the world right now controls it...

If all we wanted was oil, we would have taken it years ago...

Why would we care about building schools, powerplants, infrastructure, constitutions, governments, a whole assortment of non oil things, if all we wanted was oil. We're there, no one can stop us... if we just wanted it, we would just take it...

Oops.

otherwise it would be obvious stealing.

Spoils of war... if Oil was the whole reason for it, then why be shy about it... we've already killed thousands...

Hell, I wouldn't even care if we did just flat out take enough oil to repay all we've spent there plus give the families of our dead and wounded soldiers and workers enough money to live comfortably.

To the victors...

"Why would we care about building schools, powerplants, infrastructure, constitutions, governments, a whole assortment of non oil things,...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:04 PM"

Who profits from these nation-building projects? Follow the money...

Anybody who looks at these folks at BushCo as anything other than crooks and war criminals is a reality disconnected, traitorous, piece of shit and a partisan hack to boot.

Be Well.


Posted by dethspud


Translation:

Anybody who doesn't 100% conform with my entire worldview is an idiot.

Jeffj- Ya proud of bush's actions, or just here to troll spud?

Jeffj- Ya proud of bush's actions, or just here to troll spud?

Posted by Alexandrite

Alex- ya have anything on the topic of the thread, or just here to troll jeff?

"i hope we can stabalize iraq... my suggestion would be to build a true education system, so the next generation of iraqi's will be a true shining example of hope in the middle east"

I like your optimism. The cynic in me says we could have built hundreds of schools for the same price we've paid on community dividing concrete barriers alone. We used to tear down walls to unite people under freedom and liberty...now we build them for "protection". Full 180.

If education is the answer, working WITH the Islamic and other sectarian school systems which already exist is a good start. Start funding them from the ground up and build a great reputation for quality education. After some years, naysayers will be out-shouted by the proud.

Instead, we got a fundamentally flawed mission statement, a half-hearted plan, and half-assed execution. The ONLY saving grace is that our soldiers on the ground quickly learned how to adapt and reacted to the reality. It could very well be due to our soldiers being among the most highly educated and best trained forces in history. Military leadership should be suspect at best then. Maybe that's why the "military force only as a last resort" policy is given so much weight.

Spoils of war... if Oil was the whole reason for it, then why be shy about it... we've already killed thousands...

Hell, I wouldn't even care if we did just flat out take enough oil to repay all we've spent there plus give the families of our dead and wounded soldiers and workers enough money to live comfortably.

To the victors...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:06 PM | Reply


Because it is against the United Nations Charter to take the resourses of another Country's. Why do You think everything is on the down low. Oh and what gives You the right to their oil anyways. It's a typical right winged response. Their Land Our Oil as OohRah likes to say in so many words. You guys on the right are pure arrogance aren't You.

Larry Mohr

We used to tear down walls to unite people under freedom and liberty...now we build them for "protection".

What's the difference between the type of people we tore walls down to free (HINT: Germany) and the people we put the walls to seperate (HINT: Iraq)

"Hell, I wouldn't even care if we did just flat out take enough oil to repay all we've spent there plus give the families of our dead and wounded soldiers and workers enough money to live comfortably.

To the victors..."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:06 PM


I thought we were fighting a war on terror, not the Iraqi people?

More stupidity.

ecause it is against the United Nations Charter to take the resourses of another Country's.

What's the United Nations say about invading and occupying a country based on lies and false intel, as I'm sure you claim Bush is guilty of?

Why is it to you libs Bush switches back and forth on every quarter hour between homicidal dictator and law abiding saint?

"...arrogance aren't You."
Larry Mohr
Posted by LarryMohr


Did you just confer divine status upon Rob and Chair?

Their Land Our Oil as OohRah likes to say in so many words.

Translation: Oorah has never said this

Sorry - I meant Rob and Oorah.

I don't see anyone here defending Bush hiding the pentagon report.

Anyone wish to try?

I thought we were fighting a war on terror, not the Iraqi people?

They can consider it payment for taking out Saddam...

All I'm saying is if we're there for oil, then let's stop pussyfooting around the topic and take the fucking oil... Stop building schools and start packing the persian gulf so full of oil tankers you could walk the length of the thing without even seeing the water...

Alex,


Spud has a tendency to treat anyone who disagrees with him on anything as a complete and utter idiot.

Sometimes, I like to call him on it.


That is all.

"What's the difference between the type of people we tore walls down to free (HINT: Germany) and the people we put the walls to seperate (HINT: Iraq)"

Skin color, religion...

Tell me Rob, what is it that makes them so much less worthy that you need to throw the American experience and philosophy out the window just for a little bit of quasi-control?

BTW, we could have done a lot better had we known the language and cultural make-up of the Iraqi people. But that's beside the point, right?

"I thought we were fighting a war on terror, not the Iraqi people?"

It isn't George Bush's fault that there coincidentally happened to be a little oil beneath the ground in Iraq. He certainly didn't plan it that way. He just wanted to bring an end to "tyranny."

I don't see anyone here defending Bush hiding the pentagon report.

I don't think anyone, is going to defend this administrations policy on keeping things secret when they should be open with the people.

What's the United Nations say about invading and occupying a country based on lies and false intel, as I'm sure you claim Bush is guilty of?

Why is it to you libs Bush switches back and forth on every quarter hour between homicidal dictator and law abiding saint?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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It is illegal to start a war of anykind under the UN Charter except for 2 times that is an article 42 and a defensive war under article 51. Dubya invaded Iraq illegally make no mistake about it Robbie.

Larry Mohr

Alex - see my 12:46.

FF for Rob!

"They can consider it payment for taking out Saddam...

All I'm saying is if we're there for oil, then let's stop pussyfooting around the topic and take the fucking oil... Stop building schools and start packing the persian gulf so full of oil tankers you could walk the length of the thing without even seeing the water..."


Payment for a service they never asked for? Stupid. And it only hurts the Iraqi's we claim to be protecting. Nice moral high ground there, genius. Think it through next time.

Dubya invaded Iraq illegally make no mistake about it Robbie

So why does he listen to 1 UN rule, but not the other?

Your argument that its all for oil isn't supported by our actions in Iraq.

They can consider it payment for taking out Saddam...


All I'm saying is if we're there for oil, then let's stop pussyfooting around the topic and take the fucking oil... Stop building schools and start packing the persian gulf so full of oil tankers you could walk the length of the thing without even seeing the water...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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We are getting the Oil from Iraq but their oil equipment is antiquated. Takes time to build some new up todate stuff.

Larry Mohr

Mrfair- Weak.

Skin color, religion...

Skin color has dick to do with it.

BTW, we could have done a lot better had we known the language and cultural make-up of the Iraqi people. But that's beside the point, right?

we could have done a lot better if at the start of this insurrection we fire bombed Fallujah, and then turned to the rest of the country saying simply, "Now what, Fuckheads?"

I thought we were fighting a war on terror, not the Iraqi people?

They can consider it payment for taking out Saddam...


All I'm saying is if we're there for oil, then let's stop pussyfooting around the topic and take the fucking oil... Stop building schools and start packing the persian gulf so full of oil tankers you could walk the length of the thing without even seeing the water...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


I agree. If this was about oil, the above is exactly what would be happening. There has not been any fundamental change in the supply of Iraqi oil to us.

Also for whoever it was beefing about the budget surplus in Iraq: make up your damned mind! You keep harping about us stealing Iraq's oil (see revenues) yet now they show a surplus you're still not happy. Schizoid, possibly.

We are getting the Oil from Iraq but their oil equipment is antiquated. Takes time to build some new up todate stuff.


Its been almost 5 fucking years...

You're in a flat spin headed out to see Mavrick...

"we could have done a lot better if at the start of this insurrection we fire bombed Fallujah, and then turned to the rest of the country saying simply, "Now what, Fuckheads?"

Good way to artificially unite people against you.

You learn that from the Bush school of military science?

Stupid.

"Skin color has dick to do with it."

Then why don't you tell us what it is. You asked, afterall. Tell us all why Germany didn't deserve walls, and Iraq does.

I haven't read this article, but I can tell you conclusively that there is nothing to see here.

-Nullifidian

Its been almost 5 fucking years...


You're in a flat spin headed out to see Mavrick...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:28 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Hey dumbshit why don't You get a clue about the Oil Infrastructure in Iraq before You spew Your garbage You dig that Rob???????

Larry Mohr

Larry... Why does Bush ignore UN rules to start the war, but adheres to the rules that prevent him from carrying out the reason for that war (according to you)?

Answer that question and I'll send you a hoagie...

Their Land Our Oil as OohRah likes to say in so many words.

Translation: Oorah has never said this

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Sure it is it's what He uses to justify the Iraq war in His own mind I do believe.

Larry Mohr

Mrfair- Weak.
Posted by Alexandrite


Alex you're right that was pretty shabby.

Hey dumbshit why don't You get a clue about the Oil Infrastructure in Iraq before You spew Your garbage You dig that Rob???????

5 years and we haven't been able to fill up one tanker full of free oil?

Goose just hit the canopy and died, and your tomcat is in the ocean... better hope the chopper gets here quick to pull you out of the drink...

Larry... Why does Bush ignore UN rules to start the war, but adheres to the rules that prevent him from carrying out the reason for that war (according to you)?

Answer that question and I'll send you a hoagie...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:36 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Because Sistani put a monkey wrench in Dubya's plans is why. Why don't You go and read up on this stuff before You spew Your balderdash right winged dribble.

Larry Mohr

Larry is a fighter pilot? How many dogfights has he been in?

Sure it is it's what He uses to justify the Iraq war in His own mind I do believe.


Mind reader now are we? Your talents are limitless... your arguments are shit...

Larry is a fighter pilot? How many dogfights has he been in?

Posted by 101Chairborne


Just one... it didn't take long before he took a rocket from behind in his F-47 Browneye...

Bush is a LIAR

Rob is an A HOLE

WORD UP PEOPLE!!

Because Sistani put a monkey wrench in Dubya's plans is why.

Right... he starts a war to steal their oil, kills thousands, destroys an entire country, but quits when someone says no...

you have derailed amtrak...

Bush is a LIAR

Rob is an A HOLE

WORD UP PEOPLE!!

We are getting the oil from Iraq

For free? We're not paying at all?

Oh of course we're paying for it... ass...

Larry your argument now is phenominal...

Bush started a war to steal Iraq's oil, but much like the grinch had a change of heart when he heard the Iraqis sing on Christmas morning and decided to pay them for the oil he wanted to steal... how sweet...

For free? We're not paying at all?

Oh of course we're paying for it... ass...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-13 02:44 PM | Reply


Yeah 4000 Lives lost is a huge price to pay Rob I will give You that.

Larry Mohr

Cute little Top Gun references aside...

Rob, your only stated argument is that Bush couldn't possibly break a rule, then follow one. Pretty damn subjective. Nothing factual there at all.

Ya, but ROB, Rumsfeld said Iraqi oil would pay for the war.

Wolfowitz said it would pay for reconstruction.

Actually the Chinese are paying for it, and we've piled up a mountain of debt to do it.

Current estimate of this years deficit: $400,000,000,000 (billion)

Guess where THAT money's gonna coming from since all you righties are SO adverse to paying for the war et al?

Rob You are a waste of Bandwidth. If You want to be ignorant it's not My problem.

Larry Mohr

Yeah 4000 Lives lost is a huge price to pay Rob I will give You that

And on top of that we're giving them money for their oil, when we were supposed to be stealing it!!!

Rob, your only stated argument is that Bush couldn't possibly break a rule, then follow one.

No, my argument is that:

according to Larry, Bush started this war so he could take their oil. Starting this war was against UN laws (rules, regulations whatever the fuck they're called), but Bush did it anyways. Now that we're there we could just take the Oil, but the UN says you can't do it so he isn't.

So why would Bush create this grand plan to steal their oil, break UN Laws to do so, only to let the Iraqi parliament tell him no? It makes no sense... if you're going to break UN rules to gain control of what you want, then why wouldn't he break UN rules to take what he wants... especially if what he wants was the point all along?

You mean to tell me those big ships in the Persian Gulf aren't US Oil Tankers picking up our plunder? I'll be hand fucked.

Ya, but ROB, Rumsfeld said Iraqi oil would pay for the war.

Well if we would just start taking the oil it would.

Maybe its time to make Iraq a colony... drain them... and then... well... who gives a fuck then.

"Rob, your only stated argument is that Bush couldn't possibly break a rule, then follow one.

No, my argument is that:

according to Larry, Bush started this war so he could take their oil. Starting this war was against UN laws (rules, regulations whatever the fuck they're called), but Bush did it anyways. Now that we're there we could just take the Oil, but the UN says you can't do it so he isn't."

So I stated your position perfectly and you were too stupid to see it. I see.

"So why would Bush create this grand plan to steal their oil, break UN Laws to do so, only to let the Iraqi parliament tell him no? It makes no sense... if you're going to break UN rules to gain control of what you want, then why wouldn't he break UN rules to take what he wants... especially if what he wants was the point all along?"

So it doesn't make perfect sense...rarely does it. How is that evidence of ANYTHING? Just because something doesn't "make sense" to you isn't proof of the opposite. I don't believe we fight for oil alone, but it contributes. And you have no idea what is going on in the oil fields right now, so don't pretend to know. You've done nothing but tear down arguments with bad arguments. That's what I'm saying to you now. You sound stupid. Really.

"Well if we would just start taking the oil it would.

Maybe its time to make Iraq a colony... drain them... and then... well... who gives a fuck then."

The Iraqis, maybe. You know, our supposed newest and best ally in the war on TERROR. Oh, I see just how seriously even Bush people take that stated position.

I don't believe we fight for oil alone, but it contributes

Yeah? Does it? where's the fucking oil then? Its been five years Kevvy... where the fuck is my oil?

And you have no idea what is going on in the oil fields right now, so don't pretend to know.

I know our troops protect them, and I know that if we wanted to take the oil, no one could stop us...

So I stated your position perfectly

no... let's try again...

Rob, your only stated argument is that Bush couldn't possibly break a rule, then follow one.

Not that he couldn't possibly break one then follow one... that it makes no sense not to break the one that would get you what you want when you've broken so many to get control of what you want!

Next time you want to call someone stupid, check your chromosome count first...

I love that when you really press a Bush supporter for their reasoning and thoughts behind this war, they inevitably veer away from the very reasoning given by Bush time and time again. NO ONE buys that crap.

The Iraqis, maybe. You know, our supposed newest and best ally in the war on TERROR.

The only reason we need Middle Eastern allies and even a war on terror is because they have oil and we don't (well not a lot anyways). Iraq's oil would change the whole landscape...

Fuck it, I agree with Larry, let's take all their oil!

"Yeah? Does it? where's the fucking oil then? Its been five years Kevvy... where the fuck is my oil?"

In the ground stupid!

"I know our troops protect them, and I know that if we wanted to take the oil, no one could stop us..."

From your vast first-hand experience you know this? LOL? Idiotic!

"no... let's try again..."

No need. You are really stupid to not get it.

"Not that he couldn't possibly break one then follow one... that it makes no sense not to break the one that would get you what you want when you've broken so many to get control of what you want!"

So what? It doen't prove shit about shit to say something doesn't "make sense". You f'n retarded to think you have all the facts anyhow.

"Next time you want to call someone stupid, check your chromosome count first..."

Cute, but until you make ONE, just ONE valid point about this subject, your credibility is a joke. You don't even know what a chromosome is you baboon.

You've done nothing but tear down arguments with bad arguments.

BTW How shitty were those arguments that I was able to tear them down with bad arguments... they must have been some shitty arguments... eh, fucktard?

"BTW How shitty were those arguments that I was able to tear them down with bad arguments... they must have been some shitty arguments... eh, fucktard?"

Rob doesn't bother to read the information because it is more than one paragraph, it would take a few minutes but would explain much to him. In the end you have to conclude that he really doesn't want to know the real story about the invasion and the oil in Iraq. Talking points are more fun.

In the ground stupid!

Oh so we went there for oil, and 5 years later have still let it sit in the ground?

From your vast first-hand experience you know this?

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there is this thing called the internet, where you can go to news sites and search engines where you can look up articles about what our troops are doing in Iraq... you don't actually have to go there. If you have a computer you should check out this internet thing...

So what? It doen't prove shit about shit to say something doesn't "make sense".

It proves Larry's argument is shit... that's one... it makes you look foolish to be defending larry... that's two.

You don't even know what a chromosome is you baboon

yeesh... hard hitting stuff their big guy... your count is dropping by the post...

"Skin color has dick to do with it."

Then why don't you tell us what it is. You asked, afterall. Tell us all why Germany didn't deserve walls, and Iraq does.

Posted by kevin23


Sorry i missed this... your count is dropping faster and faster... A medical miracle that you can even form words at this point.

the original post said religion and skin color were the reasons for actions over there, and I replied skin color has dick to do with it... so what's left cheech?

LOL... holy crap, this guy may be my new favorite puppet... but I think I'll take a break from making him dance before one of the strings breaks.

Holy shit you're f'n lame, Rob.

I'm going to let the above posts speak for themselves. You assume way too much for your own good about pretty much everything and I'm willing to bet everyone knows it.

Dip-shits never cease to amaze me.

Check it out for yourselves everyone. It's all above! It starts with Rob being an ignorant belligerent, and ends with him being a complete loon lashing out at the rubber walls of his self-created cell of hors