Ron Paul has no chance so don't let it worry you.

Although I hope he runs 3rd party so we can get the GOP in.

Thanks GZ. I didn't find on the link what you were talking about. But, it did give me a chance to view some Ron Paul youtube videos. THANKS....it reminded me to thousands of times my current efforts to encourage others to....


VOTE FOR RON PAUL......many have already sent their appreciation for informing them.....btw, myself nor none of them are anti semitic. Some are even Jewish and they don't fall for the tactics of smear.

IMHOTEP=PEACE, time for you to change your name.

Let me guess why GZ is so upset at Ron Paul. Could it be that he would withdraw troops from the ME and stop throwing taxpayer's money down the Israeli rathole? A politician who puts America before Israel. What a rare breed.

GZ is so desperate to smear Ron Paul, he posts a link with no connection to Paul's so-called anti-semitism.

because Paul won't bow down to Israel he is a racist anti semite?

"Then you are saying Paul is just a clueless idiot and let Lew Rockwell spill that racist crap in his name without his knowledge."

That Lew Rockwell is one sleazy mutha. But then, Ron Paul is a magnet for kooks and sleazeballs.

Hey GZ you moron, the above link says:

"No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"

Get bent you fucking Neocon scum. If I get dumped for this it will be worth it.

because Paul won't bow down to Israel he is a racist anti semite?

Posted by byrdman


Because he won't kiss fucking AIPAC'S ring and suck their dick like the other candidates. Ron Paul put's American interests above those of other countiries.

Hey GZ, is your candidate Rudy JulieAnnie? How is he doing? Not to hot I think. I don't think JulieAnnie is electable and is just a spoiler.

The thread has been removed ... back under the rocks go the scumbags

How can that be.....you're still here.

Hey Jeff, get a donation in....I have again.

I just sent in another small donation yesterday.
after I pay my bills next week I will send a bit more.

I just sent in another small donation yesterday.
after I pay my bills next week I will send a bit more.

Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2008-01-21 10:07 AM | Reply


Come on, how much could your subscription to "Wheelbarrow Weekly" cost you?
Hell, you could always ask your government to make the donation in your name. You haven't ben shy about taking handouts from them before, why start now?

Dear Congressman Paul:

Your Presidential campaign has drawn the enthusiastic support of an imposing collection of Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 "Truthers" and other paranoid and discredited conspiracists.

Do you welcome- or repudiate - the support of such factions?

More specifically, your columns have been featured for several years in the American Free Press -a publication of the nation's leading Holocaust Denier and anti-Semitic agitator, Willis Carto. His book club even recommends works that glorify the Nazi SS, and glowingly describe the "comforts and amenities" provided for inmates of Auschwitz.

Have your columns appeared in the American Free Press with your knowledge and approval?

As a Presidential candidate, will you now disassociate yourself, clearly and publicly, from the poisonous propaganda promoted in such publications?

As a guest on my syndicated radio show, you answered my questions directly and fearlessly.
Will you now answer these pressing questions, and eliminate all associations between your campaign and some of the most loathsome fringe groups in American society?

Along with my listeners (and many of your own supporters), I eagerly await your response.

Respectfully, Michael Medved

Medved has received no official response from the Paul campaign.

The Texas-based Lone Star Times October 25 publicly requested a response to questions about whether the Paul campaign would repudiate and reject a $500 donation from white supremacist Stormfront.org founder Don Black and end the Stormfront website fundraising for Paul. The Times article lit up the conservative blogosphere for the next week. Paul supporters packed internet comment boards alternately denouncing or excusing the charges. Most politicians are quick to distance themselves from such disreputable donations when they are discovered. Not Paul.

Daniel Siederaski of the Jewish Telegraph Agency tried to get an interview with Paul, calling him repeatedly but not receiving any return calls. Wrote Siederaski November 9: "Ron Paul will take money from Nazis. But he won't take telephone calls from Jews." [Update] Finally on November 13 the Paul campaign responded. In a short interview JTA quotes Jim Perry, head of Jews for Paul describing his work on the Paul campaign along side a self-described white supremacist which Perry says he has reformed.

Racist ties exposed in the Times article go far beyond a single donation. Just below links to information about the "BOK KKK Ohio State Meeting", and the "BOK KKK Pennsylvania State Meeting", Stormfront.org website announced: "Ron Paul for President" and "Countdown to the 5th of November". The links take readers directly to a Ron Paul fundraising site from which they can click into the official Ron Paul 2008 donation page on the official campaign site. Like many white supremacists, Stormfront has ties to white prison gangs.

Finally on October 30 Paul's campaign came back with a non-response. In a phone interview with the Lone Star Times, Ron Paul national communications director Jesse Benton was non-committal about removing the donations link from Stormfront.org. After a week of internet controversy, the best Benton could come up with is:

"We hadn't thought of these options but I'll bring up these ideas with the campaign director. Blocking the IP address sounds like a simple and practical step that could be taken. I doubt there is anything we can do legally. Tracking donations that came from Stormfront's site sounds more complicated. I'm concerned about setting a precedent for the campaign having to screen and vet everyone who makes a donation. It is important to keep in mind is (sic) that we didn't solicit this support, and we aren't interested in spending al of our time and resources focused on this issue. We want to focus on Dr. Paul's positive agenda for freedom."

Perhaps frustrated by the weasel words, Lone Star Times asked Benton: "Bottom line- Will the Ron Paul campaign be rejecting the $500 contribution made by neo-Nazi Don Black?"

Benton's response:

"At this time, I cannot say that we will be rejecting Mr. Black's contribution, but I will bring the matter to the attention of our campaign director again, and expect some sort of decision to be made in coming days."

On October 11 Stormfront Radio endorsed Ron Paul for President saying:

"Whatever organization you belong to, remember first and foremost that you're a white nationalist, then put aside your differences with one another and work together. Work together to strive to get someone in the Oval Office who agrees with much of what we want for our future. Look at the man, look at the issues, look at our future. Vote for Ron Paul, 2008."

As of November 11--the Ron Paul donation link is still up and active on Stormfront. No IP address has been blocked. Stormfront's would-be stormtroopers are still encouraged to contribute to Paul's campaign.

An Austin, TX MeetUp site shows Paul supporters also involved in leftist groups such as Howard Dean's "Democracy for America." MeetUp lists other sites popular with members of the Ron Paul national MeetUp group. The number one choice is "9/11 questions" another leading choice is "conspiracy."

MuslimVoterOnPaul.com chimes in writing:

"Brothers and Sisters, please vote for Ron Paul in the Republican Primaries. It's our obligation to come together and try to stand up for not only our best interests, but the best interests of the entire Ummah."

A Ron Paul flyer directed at Muslims reads: "Who is Ron Paul and why does the Jerusalem Post call him crazy?" A "Muslims for Paul" bumper sticker puts the Islamic crescent in Paul's name.

The ugly mishmash of hate groups backing Paul has a Sheehan connection as well. David Duke is a big Cindy Sheehan supporter eagerly proclaiming "Cindy Sheehan is right" after Sheehan said, "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." Stormfront.org members joined Sheehan at her protest campout in Crawford, TX and posed with her for photos. Sheehan is also intimately associated with the Lew Rockwell libertarian website which has posted over 200 articles by Ron Paul as well as some "scholarly" 9-11 conspiracy theories.

The white supremacist American Nationalist Union also backed Sheehan's Crawford protests and endorsed David Duke for president of the United States in 1988. Now they are backing Ron Paul-linking to numerous Pro-Paul articles posted on LewRockwell.com.

Medved's questions surprise many, but they shouldn't. Paul's links the anti-Semites and white supremacists continue a trend which has been developing since the 9-11 attacks. Barely six weeks after 9-11, Paul was already busy blaming America. On October 27, 2001 Paul wrote on LewRockwell.com, "Some sincere Americans have suggested that our modern interventionist policy set the stage for the attacks of 9-11". Paul complained: "often the ones who suggest how our policies may have played a role in evoking the attacks are demonized as unpatriotic." He says the US is "bombing Afghanistan" and is upset nobody is interested in his solution:

"It is certainly disappointing that our congressional leaders and administration have not considered using letters of marque and reprisal as an additional tool to root out those who participated in the 9-11 attacks."

Paul is quick to blame the victim when the issue is Islamist violence. But when it comes to ordinary criminal violence, Paul once blamed "95% of black males." During Paul's 1996 Congressional campaign a Houston Chronicle article raised questions about a 1992 Ron Paul newsletter article. Under Ron Paul's name was written: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.' Paul added: "I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city (Washington, D.C.) are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

Through no fault of his own, Rep. Ron Paul's anti-globalist, anti-government campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has become a magnet in neo-Nazi networks, pulling in activists and supporters from the fringe white nationalist community where anti-Semitism, anti-black and anti-immigrant views are commonplace.

In some cases, these internet-based activists acknowledge that even though the Paul campaign does not have a racist or anti-Semitic agenda, it can serve as a vehicle to find sympathizers and to recruit new loyalists drawn to the Republican congressman's opposition to international trade agreements, federal police authority and to the income tax.

Such web-based organizations as Stormfront (motto: "White Pride, World Wide"), Vanguard News Network ("No Jews. Just Right.") and the Nationalist Coalition ("working to create the relationships that will lay the foundation for the White community that is necessary to our survival") have become sources of support for Paul's bid for the Republican nomination, and in some cases have set up separate Ron Paul discussion groups.

The Paul campaign dismissed the pro-Paul activities among these groups. "We don't know who these people are," said Jesse Benton, Paul's communications director. Their support has "nothing to do with Ron Paul, and what he stands for....His message of freedom, peace and prosperity - that's why people support him."

Paul has not made racist or anti-Semitic appeals to the controversial organizations and their members. Instead, their support is based on Paul's libertarian opposition to government generally, including the IRS and the powers granted to the federal government under the Patriot Act - views that are shared by many on the conservative fringe of the spectrum.

In the 2000 campaign, Patrick J. ("Pat") Buchanan appealed to many similar individuals and organizations. Buchanan had a history of expressing views that were often interpreted as anti-Semitic.

Writing on the Vanguard News Network, "White Will" argued that "folks, get involved in the Ron Paul 'revolution' and work with political activists in your communities who are attracted to his anti-globalist message.... Most of you would be surprised at how many good people can be exposed to a, let's say, 'pro-majority' message among the remarkable groundswell of fed up, mostly White Ron Paul supporters -- many, early on, from the 9/11 truth movement. They are finding their backbones as they are exposed to more and more hidden truths, especially about the hidden hand of Jewry behind every foul venture."

Among those backing Paul this year is John J. Ubele, the National Coalition's Operations Manager. In an emailed reply to an inquiry, Ubele said, "I know that Ron Paul is not a white separatist or a white nationalist. However, he is the most honest and responsible of all the presidential candidates and that is why I support his candidacy."

The National Coalition is one of a number of splinter groups that formed after the death of William Luther Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries, and founder of the now fractured National Alliance. The Turner Diaries were considered crucial to the thinking of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

On a Stormfront discussion thread on the Paul Campaign - "The Ron Paul Revolution" -- one contributor wrote in:

"Not standing up for Ron Paul against the un-American Jewish media and neo-cons who will do anything to stop his nomination is like not standing up to the efforts to force integration, to encourage mass non-White immigration, or to the attack on the USS Liberty."

"Ron Paul is NOT a White Nationalist. His Libertarian policies will also conflict with National Socialism, something that a good number of Stormfront members support. However, he is the least toxic candidate by leaps and bounds," wrote a contributor identified as "Concerned Human."

A minority of the contributors to white nationalist web sites insist on rigid adherence to their racial views. "Anything less than ALL is NOTHING. If anythings priority is not 100% the survival of the White Race, than it is a problem and not a solution. Ron Paul's priority is not 100% the survival of the white race, so he is an enemy and a burden just as much as any jew," wrote "comJo, Pan-Aryan Insurgent."

The white nationalist and anti-Semitic support flowing to the Paul campaign reflects one of the difficulties facing candidates who do not fall into the midstream: that often their views on less controversial subjects like trade and the power of the federal government to take property through eminent domain also appeal to extremist groups.

...........and the last sentence says it all. THANKS.

You hinder your cause with the politics of smear GZ. This can be done with anyone, such as very radical haters of Arabs who live in Gaza and the West Bank.......scores of derogatory statements said about them by some radicalized residents of Israel could be found and posted. YOU DO YOUR CAUSE AN INJUSTICE and that is a shame.

Their support has "nothing to do with Ron Paul, and what he stands for....His message of freedom, peace and prosperity - that's why people support him."

Posted by GZlives at 2008-01-21 12:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

That sentence you posted says it all....but, it was hard to get it in between the book you are posting.

So your only evidence of Ron Paul being an anti-semite is that he has some anti-semitic supporters? Show me part of Ron Paul's agenda that contains any anti-jew plans or rhetoric. Stopping military action and aid in the Middle East is about the only thing I can think of, but that isn't racist - it's just ending the culture of handouts.

Medved has received no official response from the Paul campaign.

Is this the same Medved who refers to Libertarians as Losertarians?

This Medved guy is just anti-Libertarian, that's all.

So your only evidence of Ron Paul being an anti-semite is that he has some anti-semitic supporters?

You might add "openly" since there are plenty of bigots in both parties.

anything gz hates = good for america
cut israels welfare ( and everybody elses too)... no need for america to subsidize hate and racsism

So if you can find a racist who supports another candidate, you have proven that candidate is racist too?

That is why they call Paul a racist, becasue he want to quit funding the Middle East conflict. In the same way, they call people who oppose illegal immigration racists, there too there is a lot of money at stake and of course they will use any tactic to smear the person who dars get out of line.

Jews hate Ron Paul because he doesn't want to fight Israel's wars for them, or hand them billions of dollars for being a worthless "ally." There is no reason to give Israel the level of support that we do, and Ron Paul is correct that we should butt out in the Middle East. JizzLives is afraid of someone willing to confront this topic head on.

I think this is a real hoot!!!! Here we have DR's Number One Racist Asshole GZlies whining about some of Ron's nuttier supporters.

Get real....GZ is far worse than anything in Paul's little sack of nutjobs.

Most of the people in my life that I've disliked or even hated have been my fellow Americans-- yet that doesn't make me anti-American or even the type that would support someone else if in fact someone I hate supports them as well. This is the crux of GZ's argument and its quite lame.

GZ's arguments ( and other Zion-firsters) are quite foolish but are to be expected from someone who has shown clearly in the past in his numerous posts that he supports Israel's interests over America's. In fact the only time he would support America's interests is when they coincide with those of Israel's.

I don't see Ron Paul as winning the election, but then again I also see people standing up and questioning the Israeli influence in American affairs, both foreign and domestic because of Paul's iconoclastic stances and recent surprise popularity. This has caused zionists to mess their britches a bit-- their recourse cannot be to sully the man himself so they attack his supporters-- a wide cross-section of thoughtful Americans-- some with good intentions, some not. But one thing is for sure-- Paul has shown in the past a complete unwillingness to have his actions swayed by a small but vocal minority of kooks like the white supremicists, while ironically politicians like Bush, Cheney, et al have done the exact opposite with their embracing of neoconservative kooks with clearly zionist agandas.

Honestly, I don't know many (if any) Jewish people. Never actually thought about them one way or another. To me "Jews" have always been just another religious affiliation like calling someone a "Catholic" or a "Buddhist"(I dont sit and ruminate on the plight of Buddhists much either).

Now, I know theres more differences, but honestly, I never had the desire to explore them.

That being said, If my first impression of the American Jewish community came from GZlives, I wouldn't leave with a pleasant picture.

Everything I've read by the guy bemoans a victim's psychosis wrapped up in a self-righteous anger. I've heard the term "Anti-Semite" thrown about so casually and at such odd times its become more amusing then offensive.

I truly hope GZ's worldview isn't the norm among "his people", it just doesn't seem very productive.

"That being said, If my first impression of the American Jewish community came from GZlives, I wouldn't leave with a pleasant picture."

In the same way that if my first impression of Muslims came from Usama Bin Laden, I wouldn't leave with a pleasant picture.


"Everything I've read by the guy bemoans a victim's psychosis wrapped up in a self-righteous anger. I've heard the term "Anti-Semite" thrown about so casually and at such odd times its become more amusing then offensive."

The problem is that the term "Anti-Semite" starts to lose menaing and potency when it's used and abused so much by the Israel-first crowd, so much so that if it were used against real Anti-Semites, some people would dismiss even that as political correctness. Like the boy who cried wolf, abusing the term is counterproductive.

If you didn't realize it before, here it is in black and white. The Ron Paulian anti Semitic scumbag parade for all to see. Disgusting cretin minds seen debating the "secret plots of Jews" sad and pathetic.



Posted by GZLives


Where is it GZ?

LOL

Racist Ron wants the destruction of Isreal. That's what all paleocon racists want.

Posted by imhotep


Can you point me to the spot where Ron Paul says this?

You idiots always say negative things about Ron Paul, but can NEVER back it up!!!

Come on, Try to back it up!!! Please !!!

Your Presidential campaign has drawn the enthusiastic support of an imposing collection of Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 "Truthers" and other paranoid and discredited conspiracists.

Posted by GZlives


GZ, I support Ron Paul and I am none of these. In fact all of the Ron Paul supporters I know are none of these.

The fact, is, dum-dum, people of all kinds are supporting Ron Paul along with the group you are talking about. However, they make up the minority.

But, it's very easy for you to point out that all supporters are like this. FUCK YOU for being an asshole.

Neocons like you claim to be Americans. Why can't Neo-Nazis, White Sepremists, etc.

GZ, you hate Arabs and other Muslims, but you don't know why...

You need to understand your neocon beliefs.

Those in glass houses...

"GZ, I support Ron Paul and I am none of these. In fact all of the Ron Paul supporters I know are none of these. "

I agree. There are no racists supporting Ron Paul.

Sincerely,
David Duke

"GZ, I support Ron Paul and I am none of these. In fact all of the Ron Paul supporters I know are none of these. "

I agree. There are no racists supporting Ron Paul.

Sincerely,
David Duke

Posted by Bill_OReilly


David Duke supported Reagan too.

First they ignore you, then they make fun of you, then they attack you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi.

We are still pretty much in the "ignore you" stage where the MSM is ignoring R.P.

I'd say that you have gone from the "make fun" stage into the "attack you" stage.

Looks like R.P. is almost a winner in your eyes, Bill.

He must really get to you.

Ron Paul knows that blacks can't be trusted.


--Lew Rockwell--
(confidant, friend, business partner, ghostwriter)

Posted by imhotep


And, what are you afraid of, Mr. Hot?

"David Duke supported Reagan too."

Now there's an endorsement!

I don't fear racists. As a blackman, I learned a long time ago that white power roaches can only hide from the light for so long.

Posted by imhotep


You're a smart guy. What makes you think that Ron Paul is a racist?

Because he's white? Because that's all you got. And, that makes you a racist!

David Duke supported Reagan too. - Eddie

Yeah, but Reagan didn't support Duke....
www.tnr.com


Posted by AndreaMackris


And... Ron Paul didn't either. Thanks for your help.

"What makes you think that Ron Paul is a racist? "

If he isn't, he sure is stupid to let the Ron Paul newsletter be written by one. Just how does a U.S. congressman allow that to happen, anyway?

"Read the link fool...."

Take Andrea's advice, Eddie. Then you won't look like a fool, fool. LOL.

Read the link fool....

Let me help you....

"The Dukes Victory"
www.tnr.com


Posted by AndreaMackris


I'm sorry, I missed your point.

Andrea, I'm from Louisiana and I know all about the Duke race for governor.

What are you trying to say, just write it here.

If he isn't, he sure is stupid to let the Ron Paul newsletter be written by one. Just how does a U.S. congressman allow that to happen, anyway?

Posted by Bill_OReilly


I agree with you! However, he's admitted this mistake on his web site.

You see? Race-bating gets you nowhere.

Sweet Lew

Posted by imhotep


So, Lew Rockwell is a racist. Al Sharpton is a racist. The world is full of racists that we can do without!

Look folks, I'm no racist. Those newsletters were actually written by Zionists working for the Trilateral Commission to discredit me.

Sincerely,
Ron Paul

On that we can agree, a racist is a racist, no matter what color they happen to be.

Posted by imhotep


But, how is Ron Paul a racist?

"I agree with you! However, he's admitted this mistake on his web site. "

Actually he has told several stories. And he has still not returned the $500 donation from the neo-Nazi founder of Stormfront. Why?

Look folks, I'm no racist. Those newsletters were actually written by Zionists working for the Trilateral Commission to discredit me.

Sincerely,
Ron Paul

Posted by Bill_OReilly


Again, can you point to the place where Ron Paul has said this?

You can't!!!

I'd say that you are truely in the "attack" stage.

You really fear Ron Paul winning. Do you realize how many young people are being attracted to Ron Paul's message? These are the leaders of tomorrow!!! My son, 19 years old, is the one who turned me on to R.P. He went to a Meet-up tonight and brought home tons of literature to hand out and has taken the role of precinct captain. I know it's not much to you, but I'm proud to see him get out there and try to change the country!

"Again, can you point to the place where Ron Paul has said this? "

Parody escapes you, Eddie. I took a little creative license there, combining Paul's statements about the Trilateral Commission and Zionists. Chill out, dude.

The best part is he says that I got their money from them and I'm going to do something positive with it.

"Again, can you point to the place where Ron Paul has said this? "

Parody escapes you, Eddie. I took a little creative license there, combining Paul's statements about the Trilateral Commission and Zionists. Chill out, dude.

Posted by Bill_OReilly



LOL.

So you are... How you say... "Pulling my chain"

BWHAHAHA

you funny guy, Bill.

"The best part is he says that I got their money from them and I'm going to do something positive with it."

That's a copout, Eddie. Any major party candidate would have to return the money. The only reason Paul can get away with this is that he is not a serious contender. Sorry to break this to you, Eddie, but Ron Paul has zero chance of being the next President of the U.S.

"BWHAHAHA

you funny guy, Bill."

I assumed you flagged my post as "funny", correct?

"BWHAHAHA

you funny guy, Bill."

I assumed you flagged my post as "funny", correct?

Posted by Bill_OReilly



yep

"Check out all the white sepremist Ron Paul supporters in this video:"

Well, since you bring it up...

alflamont.blogspot.com

Posted by Bill_OReilly



Again...


SO WHAT !!!!


Haven't you been paying attention?

Didn't you watch any of the videos I linked to?

Ron Paul, himself were in the videos explaining your very complaints, convincingly, in great detail, as if he were speaking directly to Bill.

Bill, do you have fun playing the dumb, dense village idiot? You show intelligence, and then--whoop--you slip into this arrogant red-neck kind of stupor.

You ought to relax, Eddie.

A Zionist calling someone racist?

You guys really need to read up on Zionism and the Zionists' agenda.

Know the Zionists as the racist pigs that they are.

Wow GZ was destroyed in this thread. GZ is a one trick pony and that trick is old.

Hell, you could always ask your government to make the donation in your name. You haven't ben shy about taking handouts from them before, why start now?

Posted by 101Chairborne

Lighten up on Jeffy, 101. Can't you imagine how hard it is for a rugged free market, no government interventionist to be trapped in a squalid socialist country, forced to take free money, free medical care and probably subsidised housing and transportation?
It eats at a man's soul. Ron Paul is the bright, shining light of freedom in the distance. I'm sure if he could leech a free airline ticket (first class,of course)from the deluded Danes, Jeff'd be in Texas tomorrow, living off the land.

St Paul was raised Jewish...

Paul is just a little upset about the Israelis spying on us and selling our nuke secrets to pakistalquedia and saudialquedia. I'm sure he's probably miffed that Israel also sold our weapons technology to China.

But Ron simply has to understand, as a good Christian should, that Israel needs to do what it needs to do, and we need to help, or the good Christians will never get Raptured.