JOHN EDWARDS will take South Carolina for the Democrats -- unless Diebold beats him to it.

South Carolina is the end of John McCain's 15 minutes of fame in NH.

Good to see Paul is included.

Is SC a pure primary or do the Dems get to vote for the Repub candidate there too??

Murphy

Well there are three candidates going for the evangelical vote. McCain isn't one of them.

Murphy

Murphy

Is SC a pure primary or do the Dems get to vote for the Repub candidate there too?

I'm neither a registered Dem nor Republican (I'm a registered independent) but I believe that SC holds two primaries. The Republicans hold their primary on Jan. 19th and the Dems on Jan. 29 (although they are trying to get theirs moved also to Jan. 19 in order to keep the media momentum going for them too). I don't know how cross-over party voting works in SC

What't the over and under on Rudy's use of "9/11"?

CC--you are going to get the Independent ballot here in CA when--or if you vote on Feb 5th.

I did that one year--and very disappointed. So went and registered as a Democrat.

I was thinking of changing to Repub for the primary--but the time got away and I missed the deadline.

I am not sure if I can do it at the polls--probably not..

Murphy

What color is McCain's bastard this time?

Don't you that support the Republican Party feel somewhat uneasy that in the year 2008, your Party, as we will all see tonight cannot find someone other than all white toast cast to run for President?

That stage tonight will look like a meeting of the Elks of 1950. The Democrats seem to find room in there Party for a Woman, An African American an until today a Hispanic....Please try and get your Party into the 21 Century.....

The Women, the African Americans, and the Hispanic's in the Republican Party should for there own diginity ask for a place in the leadership of this Party...

This is so old it is pathetic, hows about the first black secretary of state? or the first black woman secretary of state? or the first hispanic attorney general? How many minorities did Clinton have in his cabinet? (in important roles that is, not in dog catcher roles).

Anyone have a link where this can be watched? Thanks

These debates are about as boring as an other rerun of Law and Order.

Jew-lie-annie (loser bush-on-steroids wannabe)

Huckahoot? who give one.

Mittens is a dog abuser

McPain is Bush lite

that leave Ron Paul who makes sense,
but is in the wrong Party!!

the DEMS are coming....

Anyone have a link where this can be watched?

It's called the television. You know, that thing that came out long before the Intertubes. ;-)

Huckabee spends three minutes talking about Americans struggling to make ends meet with rising costs driven by $100/barrel oil. Giuliani follows by talking about corporate taxes that ought to be cut. Classic. Wait to look out for the little guy, 9-11-dy!

the numbers in Zogby's latest polls, for all but Clinton and Obama, seem to have been dead-on the money for both the Republicans and Democrats. Edwards, for example, was polled at 17% in Zogby's poll, and he received exactly 17% in the MSNBC numbers, with 63% of precincts reporting. So are we to believe that only those voters who preferred Obama previously, decided to change to Hillary at the last minute? I suppose so.


1988: George HW Bush finishes third in Iowa and trails badly in NH polls.
He goes on to win handily.

2008: Hillary Clinton finishes third in Iowa and trails badly in NH polls.
She goes on to win NH.

"Once, during the time when days were darker, I

made a promise. Thanks, New Hampshire!"
**George HW Bush in innagural address

Who will make that speech on January 20, 2009?


286,139 - Machine vs Hand (RonRox.com) 09 Jan 2008
Hillary Clinton, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 39.618%
Clinton, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 34.908%
Barack Obama, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 36.309%
Obama, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 38.617%
Machine vs Hand:
Clinton: 4.709% (13,475 votes)
Obama: -2.308% (-6,604 votes)

Jennifer Call, Town Clerk for Sutton confirmed that the Ron Paul totals in Sutton were actually 31, and said that they were "left off the tally sheet

Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, the most outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesdays election because of unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots.


www.youtube.com


If not for her 7% swing as a result of Diebold voting machines, Hillary would have lost to Obama.

Numerous districts reported totals of anything up to 22% for "other candidates". What on earth does this black hole of "other candidates" mean? How can one vote for a candidate that is not on the ballot without spoiling the ballot paper? The district of Lisbon reported 22.5% votes for this mysterious "other" candidate, while in the large district of Londonderry, the "other" candidate received 10%. Many are now alleging that these "other" votes were merely siphoned from Ron Paul to keep his final number low.

- Rudy Giuliani, the 9/11 candidate who beat Ron Paul thanks to the aid of a 3% swing on Diebold voting machines, received 9.11% of the vote in three different towns. Coincidence or somebody's idea of a sick joke?

Well, oh god doctor, I don't get Fox News.....so does anyone know a link that this is being fed from?

Thompson and Ron Paul won that round IMHO..

Murphy

Ride--try Fox website--they might have a link..

Murphy

the numbers in Zogby's latest polls, for all but Clinton and Obama, seem to have been dead-on the money for both the Republicans and Democrats. Edwards, for example, was polled at 17% in Zogby's poll, and he received exactly 17% in the MSNBC numbers, with 63% of precincts reporting. So are we to believe that only those voters who preferred Obama previously, decided to change to Hillary at the last minute? I suppose so.


1988: George HW Bush finishes third in Iowa and trails badly in NH polls.
He goes on to win handily.

2008: Hillary Clinton finishes third in Iowa and trails badly in NH polls.
She goes on to win NH.

"Once, during the time when days were darker, I

made a promise. Thanks, New Hampshire!"
**George HW Bush in innagural address

Who will make that speech on January 20, 2009?


286,139 - Machine vs Hand (RonRox.com) 09 Jan 2008
Hillary Clinton, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 39.618%
Clinton, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 34.908%
Barack Obama, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 36.309%
Obama, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 38.617%
Machine vs Hand:
Clinton: 4.709% (13,475 votes)
Obama: -2.308% (-6,604 votes)

Jennifer Call, Town Clerk for Sutton confirmed that the Ron Paul totals in Sutton were actually 31, and said that they were "left off the tally sheet

Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, the most outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesdays election because of unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots.


www.youtube.com


If not for her 7% swing as a result of Diebold voting machines, Hillary would have lost to Obama.

Numerous districts reported totals of anything up to 22% for "other candidates". What on earth does this black hole of "other candidates" mean? How can one vote for a candidate that is not on the ballot without spoiling the ballot paper? The district of Lisbon reported 22.5% votes for this mysterious "other" candidate, while in the large district of Londonderry, the "other" candidate received 10%. Many are now alleging that these "other" votes were merely siphoned from Ron Paul to keep his final number low.

- Rudy Giuliani, the 9/11 candidate who beat Ron Paul thanks to the aid of a 3% swing on Diebold voting machines, received 9.11% of the vote in three different towns. Coincidence or somebody's idea of a sick joke?

Ron Paul is the only remaining fragment of the Republican conscience; willing to admit their mistakes.


But the rest are interested in who is the moist bloodthirsty, so that's way more entertaining.

Rudy is the brightest and the most dangerous of this bunch. If he can win Florida, he could go all the way.

Ron Paul has just fallen on the floor like a fish out of water - flopping.....flopping. Nope, now he's broken out a shovel and is digging a hole.

Just wanted my Republican friends here to know I'm watching the debate so I don't talk out of my ass at a near point in the future

AU :-)

Where did Wendel get that tie? WOW! That had to be a gift tie from the kids.

My money has been on the Clintons from the beginning.
-They've had 8 years to spread the wealth among their friends. Those same friends can expect a rerun.
-The economy was relatively healthy during the Clinton years - big plus with the economy a major issue.
-Voters think they are getting an experienced team.
-During her years in the Senate, Hillary was the parties best fundraiser.
-They know the game and they play it more mercilessly than anybody else. They are the most calculating cunning couple this country has ever seen.

The primaries are just the side show to give Americans the illusion that there is real competition in elections.

You're right, that is one ugly tie.

Ron Paul reminds me of Eddie Haskel. Kind of acts like him too.

Huckabee is kissing AIPAC ass.

Ron Paul is the only remaining fragment of the Republican conscience; willing to admit their mistakes.

I got baptized into political chicanery when Barry Goldwater ran against Lyndon Johnson. Johnson trashed the hell out of Goldwater with charges he would eliminate Social Security and get us into war. You know the rest of the story.

Paul is an unknown to the vast majority of voters, so it's easy to make false charges stick. Of course, he'll lose, but he showed the power of the Internet.

And now a word from our Sponor: Capital One.

Huckabee reminds me of Gomer Pyle of the Andy Griffith show.

Will Paul run as a Libertarian again if he loses the Republican nomination? That could be the Nader this year if you're right.

Thank you all for your input on a proper link. I had tried Fox News site and couldn't get to it....2fast4u link got me their. Thanks to all.

I for one am glad to see Ron Paul is a practical stand up person. Glad he's on the stage.

Will Paul run as a Libertarian again if he loses the Republican nomination? That could be the Nader this year if you're right.

Nope... Sore loser laws in too many states cock block a legimate contest between more than 2 parties.

Huckabee has signed a pledge not to raise taxes. He didn't raise taxes - he raised hope. OMG is this guy for real? Is he going to cry? He's now quoting Truckers magazine. What a maroon.

legimate...I knew I drank too much home brew tonight :P

9-11 9-11 9-11.

Guess who?

How many candidates on either side are Veterans? McCain, Paul, ?

9-11 9-11 9-11.

Reminds me of Al Bundy who's highlight in life was scoring three touchdowns in one game.

Agree with him or not Huckabee is the most forthright man standing on the stage besides Paul.

He's losing me now with the "husbands obey your wives..."

I'm a 'yes man' when it comes to her, but not because I"m obeying her


LOL

Ron Paul with another kick in the neocon balls.

I'm a 'yes man' when it comes to her, but not because I"m obeying her


UH HUH! ;-)

THIS country is in deeper shit than we know (and I'm an optimist). I ask you to consider making a legacy for yourself, your children and grandchildren.....SUPPORT RON PAUL NOW.

FF, Ray!

You finally said something funny as hell!
Congrats!

I'd like to compliment Corky too....he says funny stuff everyday.....his shilling for what's her name is HILL-arious.

"SUPPORT RON PAUL NOW" ...for what, admission to the psych ward?

....and ENTER....Billy'O'Crap'O'Meter' (as named by the DR left)

The joke is on you Ride. See my post at 9:53.

Clinton I = the highpoint of American ascendancy.
Clinton II = the fall into the abyss.

I didn't know Ride was really the ascended Hale Bopp guy.

I'm tellin' Buffalo Bob about this one!

"SUPPORT RON PAUL NOW" ...for what, admission to the psych ward?

Posted by Bill_OReilly at 2008-01-10 10:34 PM

It's always informative to know what Reilly is against. I couldn't think of a better endorsement for Ron Paul.

Ray, your stuff tonight was very funny.

RIDE

It's fun when you're married to someone you really, really like, who's your best friend, who laughs at your best farts.

:-)

I'm tellin' Buffalo Bob about this one!





Posted by Corky at 2008-01-10 10:36 PM | Reply | Flag:


Ok, now that was genuinely funny too!

Fred Thompson won?

Boy, you guys are in even bigger trouble than we thought!

Wow, the focus group picked Thompson as the winner but Paul as the loser... Too much Maurice's BBQ? I would've picked Romney as the loser for sure tonight - for some reason he reminded me of Kerry but at least he didn't do the Hillary southern drawl.

RIDE

It's fun when you're married to someone you really, really like, who's your best friend, who laughs at your best farts.

:-)


Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-01-10 10:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

You better adore her then....and probably keep her under lock and key as well.....that one's a keeper. Must admit I'm jealous. I won our large extended family's Fart King Trophy and even that didn't make my sourpuss ex happy. I guess some people just don't appreciate the good things in life...no matter how good they have it.

Like Ray said..........

After watching this travesty tonight, I am completely convinced: Its time for revolution. Our republic is subverted daily by these corporate news outlets who've decided from which pool of candidates the hoi polloi will choose, and our government allows this proto-fascist slight of hand to persist. The whole system is broken and I'm ready to throw the baby out with the bath water.

There must be others out there that agree.

These dragged out primaries ARE a travesty. But they serve the political class as a distraction to the mess they made of the economy and the ME. The system IS broken, but sadly Americans haven't suffered enough to throw these sociopaths out of office.

RIDE ON

I once woke up my exwife from a dead sleep. Burned on the way out. I knew it was death gas, so I bunched the covers tight around me.

She turned over in the middle of a dream and bolted upright from a dead sleep, "Oh....MY.....GOD!!" as we both bolted from the bedroom.

That one still makes me smile.

Favorite moment of the night, the Fox reporter, with a gleam in his eyes and almost a giggle in his voice, asks Ron Paul if he is electable, viable? While the others on the stage are still laughing approvingly at the Republican operative's question, Ron Paul treats them all to a verbal wedgie with his answer about borrowing $10 billion from the Chinese in order to give $2 billion to Musharraf.....

Ron Paul is crazy....crazy like a fox!

A friend gave me 'The Fart Book' 20 years ago. You'll know every fart there is: The Zipper Fart, the 'Comet Fart' with an after tail, etc.

I mention that because one of them is 'The Presidential Fart' - a fart no one dares acknowledge happened.

Favorite moment of the night, the Fox reporter, with a gleam in his eyes and almost a giggle in his voice, asks Ron Paul if he is electable, viable?

Mine too. People should check that out when it hits YouTube. Paul took a moment when he's ridiculed by his rivals and many in the audience, and he thew the ridiculous borrow-and-spend warmaking of his party in their faces. Brilliant moment.

Is Ron Paul in this debate? Gee, how nice of FoxNews to invite him this time.

I mention that because one of them is 'The Presidential Fart' - a fart no one dares acknowledge happened.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-01-10 10:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

But, wouldn't it be great if some family were visiting the oval office and a little kid with no pretensions blurted out......Hey sis, I think that guy just let out a big fart, pee you!

and he thew the ridiculous borrow-and-spend warmaking of his party in their faces. Brilliant moment.

Posted by rcade at 2008-01-10 11:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

RCADE, I agree and am totally sickened by the repubs borrow and spend. Don't believe though that the two parties are that much different at the "top tier of candidates". Read past the slander being thrown at RP in the last few days and get/stay behind this guy to prove we can take our country back.

reference my 11:04 post...especially if it was caught by a camera person

www.ronpaulexposed.com

Posted by Bill_OReilly


B.O. you're like a kid after Christmas, playing with his new toy. You like that page don't you B.O.?

and he thew the ridiculous borrow-and-spend warmaking of his party in their faces. Brilliant moment.

Posted by rcade at 2008-01-10 11:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Plus Ron Paul's line to the Republican candidates and the GOP --
"I'm more conservative than you!"

There was a story in the last two days about some guys taking a dead person with them to cash a check. I think I've identified the body of the deceased....it had to have been Fred Thompson.

BREAKING NEWS!

The New Republic launches a second expose on the sinister Ron Paul, apparently Ron Paul hates puppies and in an ironci twist (considering he is an ob/gyn) he thinks all babies are ugly.

Developing .....

Beat you to it B.O. !

There was a story in the last two days about some guys taking a dead person with them to cash a check. I think I've identified the body of the deceased....it had to have been Fred Thompson.

And Fox's "undecideds" went for Thompson. I suppose if "none of the above" isn't a choice, a dead guy will do.

RIDE ON

I've read W is quite the fart cutter and fan. It must be tough to be an aide and have to laugh at one fart after another. And you KNOW W would do it intentionally in an elevator too. Be honest. :-)

On topic, Paul was strong tonight.

All the other terror talk bored me to death. Why they want to help Al Qaeda 'terrorisze' us by emphasizing it over and over and over again is doing Al Qaeda's bidding. Don't they get that fact? You can't be terrorized by terrorists unless you let fear creep in and rule your existence. Best thing we could have done with Bin Laden is hunt him while we go on about our lives with a President telling us "We have nothing to fear but fear itself", as FDR told us when we were fighitng all around the world and our lives depended on it.

YAV , great video.

www.davidduke.com

Posted by Bill_OReilly


Dude if you want to pollute your computer by going to racist web sites, go ahead. I ain't taking my pc there.

And Fox's "undecideds" went for Thompson. I suppose if "none of the above" isn't a choice, a dead guy will do.

Remember, we are talking about the same crowd that voted twice for Bush! They'd vote for a sack of potatoes if it promised to stay the course!

I just got off the phone with one of my best friends, who's wealthy and a Paul supporter. He's looking into the racism charges. My buddy's really hot girlfriend is from Haiti with mocha toned skin.

Oops on Paul if the reports on his newsletters are true. If so, he just lost all respect from me and made me view his other stances in a wider context, that's for sure.

I'm an Obama voter, but I feel bad for Paul's supporters if these reports are true.

....and those who have been around Paul for years and years (friends and not so friends) are reporting they've never heard a word or body language from Paul to indicate he is racist. Paul's heroes....Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, Ghandi......for a long long long time.

If the ghostwriter has any respect for Paul and hope for the political future of the anti-state, anti-war movement that has coalesced around him, he'd do well to step forward and take responsibility.

(From the New Republic linked article)

That would be the only right thing to do on the author's part. It's so hard to believe he didn't know about this. Didn't anyone call him or write to him and say, 'Did you really say this?"

Still, dirty politics is dirty politics. I guess we'll know the truth in short order.

having watched the debates, it is my feeling that mccain and paul were clearly the winners, however, the media does not like these two so they will probably go by the wayside. too bad for u.s.

i'm not even closely matched to either of them, nor any of the other candidates so i'm speaking with a truly open mind.

come to think of it, i don't even have a candidate in the debates!

Ron Paul is a fucking moron.

Paul was absolutely brilliant.


Kinda sad but I'll be moving again shortly. I need to head back to the left coast. I am a lib and must live near them.

j/k I miss my old martial arts school and I plan on training there again.

Brilliant, as in they have their head stuck up their ass and suffer from severe braindamage?

Did your gal dump you?

yup

It happens

Hopefully, Master Lee saved your apartment for you.

Im not really concerned. The easy life was fun while it lasted but Im ready to get back to my old life.

Actually the one next door is available now. master Lee said that he knew i would be back and he was surprised I was gone longer than a month.

Master Lee is no fool.

I only gave you a month, you exceeded my expectations grasshopper.

Dimspud must be wondering how to sign on to the Huffington post about now.

Does anybody even read him? With the 3rd grade spelling mixed with him in the 3rd person I just scrolled right past his posts

Hey Dethpud, say high to Arriana!

RON PAUL is an isolationist....we all know how that worked out last time....i understand his stance....but america is way past that point

Marine, Paul is just about wrong on every count...It's like watching a chicken with it's head cut off, you know it's going to gyrate and convulse.

YEA...i just cant see america not playing a major role in the world....sure america has made its mistakes....but in the overall aspect....i think america has done very good job in bring peace...aid...and freedom through out the world.....america in a minor role will not be good

and if PAUL wants america to play a minor role in world affairs....then he should tell us who he plans to have take our place

Just don't let the filth of the left and the hard right, infect your brain, and you will be alright.

sure america has made its mistakes....but in the overall aspect....i think america has done very good job in bring peace...aid...and freedom through out the world.....america in a minor role will not be good

LOL!!!

My how delusional people think America is the number one nation on planet earth. LOL!

On almost every continent on earth there is some type of conflict going on and America has a role in its contribution.

Monkeysore, you make me sick.

ass,

You are just too funny! what? Your normal hammer sight a little boring lately?

Life has really been lonely for ya, wonder if you can make a post with even the smallest intelligent value?

Intelligent like your last post?

To me, you are a subhuman, barely worthy of mention.

You are no different then a 'wanna be homicide bomber' doing mindless drills in a madrasasa, the only difference is, they don't know any better.

ASS,

That's a laugh!!!! A dittohead making 'mindless drills in a madrasasa' remarks.

That 'its my country, love it or leave it' crap is fine for your klan meetings, but it doesn't fly in the real world. If you really love it, do something constructive to make it better!!!

Axe, we've never met.

I don't know your politics or your concepts of reality and you do not know mine.

Perhaps you should learn more about me before making declarative statements that concern me.

You forget, there is a little feature feature called a history. Easy to review your postings and see you are a Rimjob acolyte. Just a small leap of faith to guess you keep a white robe in the trunk.

I play on a level far beyond any you have ever dealt with before.

Don't jump into the deep end without testing the waters.

Bottom feeders usually prefer the deep end. That's where the best shit accumulates.

Tell me more.

I play on a level far beyond any you have ever dealt with before.

Don't jump into the deep end without testing the waters.

Posted by asshammer at 2008-01-11 01:34 AM | Reply | Flag:


Good thing you've grown up and repented your previous ways, right rex? Don't ever send me a selfdestruct email again, prick.

My way has always been 'the way' Alex.

Maybe you should ask someone who knows.

You wear ignorance like a badge of honor, when it is a stain of foolishness.

To me, you are a subhuman, barely worthy of mention.
You are no different then a 'wanna be homicide bomber' doing mindless drills in a madrasasa, the only difference is, they don't know any better.

But then:


I don't know your politics or your concepts of reality and you do not know mine.

Perhaps you should learn more about me before making declarative statements that concern me.


Follow your own advice, please.

"Perhaps you should learn more about me before making declarative statements that concern me."

He's right. You should know Rex got banned from the DR for being such a worthless prick. The verbal vandal never really added much to the discussions, just tried to shit them up, even literally one night, when he blogged, totally fucked up, from the crapper, giving us all play-by-play of the grunts and plops. After lots of warnings, he stormed off, along with some other misanthropes to start the greatest political website in their own mind, the PWZ. Trouble was, there was no balance, and they started eating their own. Rex started pissing off...well, everybody on the site. Barely a week went by where there wasn't a feud, replete with recriminations and, at times, accusations of sabatoge. More and more left and didn't come back. Now, PWZ has met it's demise, and Rex hasn't anywhere else to go, so he comes back here as Asshammer and Dethpud (and a few others) and compliments himself that way. He also has claimed to have changed his ways, yet he accused me of being a liar for bringing up an incident which Rex claims never happened, although he apologized to me for it months ago. Some change.

Though maybe he has changed. The old Rex apologized to me. The "new" Rex called me a liar and now claims it never happened.

But that's Rex. Jerk, Liar, Asshole. And proud of it.

Everytime I see these Republican candidates in a debate the more they scare the hell out of me (same with most of the Democrats except for Edwards). The ONLY one with any common sense on that stage tonight was Ron Paul -- precisely why Fox wanted to shut him up and/or make him appear foolish. Fox did not succeed.

Ron Paul needs a revolution and then coronation to do anything he said. He would have to be King because no one will work with him.

The Fox News stooge (focus) group went for Willard 100%. Fox is just continuing the "anyone but McCain" pump.

No one "won" the debate. Paul is a huge distraction from understanding the real differences in the others. I did love Huck's answer to the woman/marriage question.

The "true" conservatives showed their shallow values by pumping Mitt.

It's time to buck up and support the only one that will get in and do the job. McCain is the strongest. The dream team is McCain/Huck, Rudy on Homeland Defense, Fred as AG. Let Paul keep dreaming what he would do if he were king. Let Mitt spend his remaining millions doing something else to make himself feel good.

Enough said.

Dethpud is Goatman.

*** Anyone have a link where this can be watched? Thanks

Posted by ride_on ****

......MSCSMN ........the cable Masochism Network is carrying it live.......

........the reruns will be on the SDSM Network....hosted by the Liar's Club of Greenville..

Trolls are out in full force today.

Ron Paul really makes their butt-holes tighten up, doesn't he?

Best endorsement ever.

The old Rex apologized to me. The "new" Rex called me a liar and now claims it never happened.

But that's Rex. Jerk, Liar, Asshole. And proud of it.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-01-11 02:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

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Sniffles....

Signed,

Danforth

I've got nothing to add, so I'll try to be cute.

And fail miserably.

Signed,
Tamp_On

Speaking as a Republican, Rep. Ron Paul may not have very much primary season electability within the conetext of the silly, rah-rah, "USA! USA!," neo-"conservative" jamboree that has been substituted for the authentic Republican Party, but that's essentially a badge of honor. If the GOP were so fortunate as to have Dr. Paul as their nominee, however, he'd be a very electable candidate, seeing as how he's the only GOPer who could attract supporters from the Democratic Party, as well as independents of all stripes, disaffected paleo-conservatives, and most of the smaller ("third") political parties. Ron Paul is the only Republican who could conceivably carry California or Vermont, for example.

I will vote for Ron Paul in the California Republican Presidential primary on February 5th, not so much because I still hold out any hope of his being the GOP nominee, but rather to encourage him to run on an independent or "third party" ticket in November. I think the supporters of Ron Paul, Patrick Buchanan, Tom Tancredo, and other dissenting Republicans, should get together and field a nominee in 2008 for the explicit purpose of ensuring that the Republican ticket goes down to ignominious defeat. And we should do it again in 2012, and every other fourth year, until the Republican Party is forced to face reality: They can not win as long as they continue to nominate candidates who are grossly unacceptable to libertarians, paleo-conservatives, Constitutionalists, and other patriotic elements that once were part of the Reagan coalition.

I thought Mike Huckabee, as usual, came off as very likeable. Ron Paul tells it like it is about our most pressing problems. John McCain surely is a great American, but he lost my respect by shilling for Bush over the war (having lived through Vietnam he more than anyone should have been sounding warning bells before we invaded).

Anyway, Those were my favorites from last night. Although I'm not voting in the GOP primary, I want to be informed and not make comments that are ill informed. I'm interested in this race and really want to know where everyone stands on everything (or in Romney's case where he stands today)