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Thursday, January 03, 2008

New Jersey could become the first Northern state to apologize for slavery under a measure due for a legislative committee hearing this week.

"This is not too much to ask of the state of New Jersey," said Assemblyman William Payne, sponsor of the proposal. "All that is being requested of New Jersey is to say three simple words: 'We are sorry.'"

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In this spirit, I'd like to apologize for the Grand Inquisition, the execution of Joan of Arc, and the most overrated band in history, The Rolling Stones.

Obviously they have nothing of substance to spend their time on allowing them time for the fluff. NJ must have no pressing problems.

How bout an apology for the way you guys drive. That would be a little more relevent.

In this spirit, I'd like to apologize for the Grand Inquisition, the execution of Joan of Arc, and the most overrated band in history, The Rolling Stones.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-03 03:18


You forgot to apologize to me for the Great Potato Famine. *Irish grin*

"All that is being requested of New Jersey is to say three simple words: 'We are sorry.'"

How about we be honest about the whole thing?

What we really mean to say is:

"Thank You Very Much!!!"

Hard to imagine our infant country getting on its feet as soon as it did without all of the free labor.

Really, THANKS!!!!!

On behalf of my Irish ancestors I wish an apology from the US and Briton for the past 800 years, and behalf of my Cherokee ancestors I want an apology from the US for the past 200 years, and behalf of myself and my children I want an apology from Dubya and the rest of the neocons for squandering my birth right and inheritance.

Sorry Jeff, and god says he's sorry about the red hair and big ears thing too....

I still don't know what a neocon is. If I voted for Bush twice and support the Iraq War, does that make me a neocon?

If so, I apologize for squandering your birth right and your inheritance.

Glad I could help.

The US blacks have it 10 x better than most of their relatives in Africa. The great liberator Abe Lincoln wanted to ship them all back to Africa.
I think for the most part they are being a bunch of whiners.
An apology would set some kind of legal precedent and next they will be wanting reparation.

If I voted for Bush twice and support the Iraq War, does that make me a neocon?

No, just a fool.

And by the way, thanks a lot asshole. You sure know how to pick'em. Next time, don't vote. You would be serving your country more than you know.

Trust me.........

Yeah RR,
I just invented that word! Pulled it right out of thin air. Never heard it before in my life.
You are being disingenuous. Or stupid....

A black friend of mine was in Mogadishu when Clinton was in office.

When he came home he told me how happy he was his ancestors couldn't run very fast.

I think NJ should apologize for Bruce Springsteen.

Sorry RIR, You are several hundred million dollars short of of being a neocon. You are just a simple fucking idiot like most of the voters.

at least you didn't say little pecker thing to...

Sorry RIR, You are several hundred million dollars short of of being a neocon. You are just a simple fucking idiot like most of the voters.
Posted by axe


Classy. You have for the umpteenth time proven MrFair's Rule of The DR.

You would be serving your country more than you know.

Trust me.........

Posted by Manypaths
* * * *

I've already served my country more than YOU know.

Trust me.

There is an old story on my mothers side of the family about a great great great great uncle from Ireland that was a sailor, and he was captured by Muslim pirates and sold into slavery in Arabia. He was a slave for a few years until he managed to escape and make his way back to Ireland.
Does that make me entitled to an apology from the whole Muslim world?

"And by the way, thanks a lot asshole."
Posted by Manypaths


Here's another one. Tsk tsk.


I think NJ should apologize for Bruce Springsteen.

Posted by MrFair


I second that emotion........

Trust you? just like we trusted Bush? I don't think so.

Does that make me entitled to an apology from the whole Muslim world?
Posted by JeffnDenmark


Jeff, seeing as how you reside in Demark, perhaps a cartoon would be the best way to make your request.

NJ go for it. Put it on record. But with the condition that reparation is not included.

Just in case you haven't seen it yet:

President Bush Is A Fucking Moron

Mr Fair, you have to understand something. The liberals' commitment to diversity of opinion and thought, and to tolerance of others, extends only to other liberals who think exactly like they do. For further evidence, take a peek at them tearing each other apart over Obama or Hillary. They're not even civil when they're talking to fellow hard lefties. Why should people like me be any different?

Mr Fair, you have to understand something. The liberals' commitment to diversity of opinion and thought, and to tolerance of others, extends only to other liberals who think exactly like they do. For further evidence, take a peek at them tearing each other apart over Obama or Hillary. They're not even civil when they're talking to fellow hard lefties. Why should people like me be any different?
Posted by rightisright


RiR - It's what I've noticed over the years. I'd love to do a real study on it sometime.

FF...that one cracked me up MRFAIR.

Bad things happen.I am one to say you need to deal and move onward and upward. Bigger and better!
Slavery was a terrible thing, and the discrimination against Black Americans in recent times was a terrible thing. The mantra of Jackson and Sharpton are harming their young people.
Go with the way things are now. Get an education and work hard, ...like Obama you too have a shot at being president.

Speaking of cartoons...
Did you hear about the new UN propaganda?

UN To Team Up With Marvel Comics

Marvel Comics and the United Nations are teaming up to create comic books to show superheroes working with the agency to rid the world of conflict and disease.

The United Nations and Marvel Comics are working together to develop a comic book set in a fictional war-torn country with superheroes working alongside UNICEF aid workers and U.N peacekeepers, the Financial Times said Thursday.
www.blacklistednews.com

Thank God I'll be moving out of this Italian-American liberal infested fuck hole in a couple years... never to return.

Moving back to sphincterville?

I'll apologize for slavery when Black Americans thank us for bringing them out of Africa so they could live here in the greatest country the world has ever known, instead of still living in Africa being chased down by AIDS, lions, maleria, and/or just psychos with machetes while they're made into slaves for diamond mines and going "home" at night to a grass hut when its 600 degrees and there's one air conditioner on the entire continent...

You're welcome...


Thank God I'll be moving out of this Italian-American liberal infested fuck hole in a couple years... never to return.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


This country has always become more and more liberal.

The liberal way has always prevailed Rob. There isn't anything that you can do to change that.

Enjoy your trip!


Moving back to sphincterville?

Posted by JeffnDenmark


Smells better then New Jersey...

This country has always become more and more liberal.

The liberal way has always prevailed Rob.


Worked out great for Rome...

"...like Obama you too have a shot at being president."

Even Condi got to be a secretary.

Analopolus? Colonberg?

Never been there, but I have heard its a real shit hole. Did you meet the Sopranos yet?


Analopolus? Colonberg?

Posted by JeffnDenmark


Exit 17 off the Hershey Highway...

Facts are facts Rob, even yours.

It's a shame that you don't like them however.....

New Jersy?

Considers apologising for Slavery?

That's mighty white of them!

After they've finished doing that can they apologise fer that smell that continues to drift over into other innocent states.

Thanx a bunch.

Bruce Springsteen is good and everything but he really doesn't begin to make up fer all of that.

Also the Sopranos did rawk out loud.

On a personal note, as a white potato, Spud would just like to officially apologise fer Rob the Ahole.

Wot can Spud say?

Rob fell outta the crib onto his head one time too many and it just turned him mean and stOOpid!

Be Well.

STIRSUMUP:
"How bout an apology for the way you guys drive. That would be a little more relevent."

You can easily spot the worst NJ drivers on our roads. They are the ones with Pennsylvania license plates.

DETHSPUD:
We can't apologize for the PA smell that happens to roll over our state due to the prevailing winds out of the west. Besides, it only blows over to NYC, so who gives a shit?

ROB THE A HOLE:
Don't let the toll gate hit you in the ass on the way out.

I love it when frighty-rightys whine about all the mean ol' liberals being so mean to them, and then turn around and call all liberals a-what-nots and such. HOW ABOUT A LITTLE CONSISTENCY? But then, you wouldn't be able to crow about how you used to be such a mean drunk but now you've found the LAWD and such - while you're snorting Oxycotin and tapping strangers toes.

I spent two weeks in New Jersey earlier in the fall. I thought it was pretty cool. Didn't notice any pollution really to speak of at all. Little too crowded and urban for my taste, but I had a great time.

Funny thing I didn't know, though, until I got there--you're not allowed to pump your own gas. Everything is full service.


I love it when frighty-rightys whine about all the mean ol' liberals being so mean to them, and then turn around and call all liberals a-what-nots and such. HOW ABOUT A LITTLE CONSISTENCY? But then, you wouldn't be able to crow about how you used to be such a mean drunk but now you've found the LAWD and such - while you're snorting Oxycotin and tapping strangers toes.

Posted by Jomama
* * * *

Everyone get that?

RIGHTISRIGHT:
There is a law on the books prohibiting self serve gasoline (NJAC 12:19), but people do it all of the time. The punishment gets directed towards the operators of the station.
Regarding the pollution, it is mainly found along the I-95 corridor. If you travel out the extreme north, northwest, or very south, you may think that you are in a different state.

RIR - I'll email you the URL for the solution you so desperately seek.

I love it when frighty-rightys whine about all the mean ol' liberals being so mean to them, and then turn around and call all liberals a-what-nots and such. HOW ABOUT A LITTLE CONSISTENCY? But then, you wouldn't be able to crow about how you used to be such a mean drunk but now you've found the LAWD and such - while you're snorting Oxycotin and tapping strangers toes.
Posted by Jomama


Wow! Such vitriol! Such manic energy! I think Jomama may in fact be the love child of Al Franken and Robin Williams.

There is a law on the books [in NJ] prohibiting self serve gasoline (NJAC 12:19), but people do it all of the time...

I don't think I'd know what to do if someone from a gas station came up and actually offered to put gas in my car -- let alone check the water, oil, and air in my tires. People do that?

I don't think I'd know what to do if someone from a gas station came up and actually offered to put gas in my car -- let alone check the water, oil, and air in my tires. People do that?
Posted by CalifChris


There's a guy who stands in the median strip and tries to wash my windshield.

MrFair - you're closer than you could ever dream. And I've not yet begun to retort!

We can't apologize for the PA smell that happens to roll over our state due to the prevailing winds out of the west. Besides, it only blows over to NYC, so who gives a shit?

FF fer NJDevil!

Hey NJ,

Whoever wins today between the US and Canada at the World Juniors Hockey Tourny will go on to win the tournament.

Yer boys is gooood this year, dammit!

Wot ya been feeding 'em?

Spud's going with "steroid laced Wheaties".

Admittedly just a theory. ^_^

Be Well.

Devil,
I was in Warren, and commuting back and forth from my hotel into the city. I thought I was on 95.

Maybe I just got lucky as far as pollution went, I dunno. But every day was sunny and clear. Just beautiful.

There's only a few areas of the country I just would refuse to live in. I don't like the desert, don't like Louisiana. And I wouldn't like the hard winters you get up north. But whatever you like, America's got it, and I love it all. Almost all.

Another thought...

When my ancestors came to live in America they had to pay for the boat ride...

You're welcome again, Black Americans.

Jeez Rob! OMG.

SPUD:
I am still in shock over the first place spot (Atl. Div). Don't know what dey eatin. Thank you and all of Canada for the game, not to mention great beer.
RIR:
If you were in Warren County, I would guess that you traveled on 78 or 80. 95 is pretty far away. Never been to hardcore desert areas (Tahoe, NV didn't seem like the Wile E Coyote desert) but I can see your point. Louisiana was lots of fun (pre-Katrina on Bourbon St.) but I can live the rest of my life without returning to it.

MRFAIR:
I believe that he is going for humor. At least I'm laughing at his postings.


Jeez Rob! OMG.

Posted by MrFair


You've got to learn to laugh a little... even at the things you're not supposed to...


ROB THE A HOLE:
Don't let the toll gate hit you in the ass on the way out.

Posted by NJDevil


I will say this for Jersey... it has great access to America's great cities... When I lived in Newark I was a short train ride from NYC, and not all that far from Boston... now in Cherry Hill I'm just minutes from Philly, and just a short drive to DC and Baltimore...

If you can deal with millions of Italian Americans all thinking they're some consigliere for the mob, the stink of North Jersey, of the abysmal shithole they call a beach, you can have a lot fun here...

Yeah, think of how funny it was for the thousands of slaves that never made it - how we all laughed as they tossed their dead, rotting carcasses overboard. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, my aching sides!

Yeah, think of how funny it was for the thousands of slaves that never made it

You don't here people in england crying for an apology over the Norman Conquest...

Fucking grab a tissue, wipe your tears and realize life is better for everyone NOW... Good God, what good would an apology do anyways? Are there any slaves left?

And like I asked are there any Black Americans today who are not better off because of slavery? How many Black Americans are lining up to go back to Africa?

Just because it isn't politically correct doesn't mean it isn't true.

Happy Kwanzaa everyone, I'm outty...

Um, what? I could've sworn I heard something. Nope, my bad.

"I was a short train ride from....."

Beats taking the short bus! : )

ROB THE A HOLE:
No argument regarding the Soprano wannabes. We are chock full of 'em. I'm half Italian, and we're not ALL like that, but I do admit that more than half of us are.
JOMAMA:
You have to learn to laugh at even bad things that are not under your own control. BTW, judging from your screen name, you are in no position to criticize with your ebonics word play.

Thanks for playing. Please try again.

???

I went to Atlantic City once--day trip from Philly when I was at a week long training for a company I worked for.

Won $600.00 off a slot machine in the first half hour and then went shopping.

This was about 1994 or so...The beach looked fine. But there was a sign that listed the No's Don'ts of the beach--It was four feet long.

It didn't say Don't swim though.

I am not understanding why they feel the need to apologize. The country was a diiferent place back then and the country did worse, or just as bad, to the native Indians.

Do blacks feel better with this kind of action/apology made to them? Can someone explain?

Murphy

Look, I'd explain it to you NJ, but you'd just get one of those nagging feelings of inadequacy. You know, like every night.

I am still in shock over the first place spot (Atl. Div). Don't know what dey eatin. Thank you and all of Canada for the game, not to mention great beer.

~NJD

Yer welcome fer the game. It does RAWK!

Ixnay on the "reatgay eerbay", though!

Not everybody knows yet and Spud is still trying to keep it a secret!

Spud is almost hafta cheer fer the mighty mighty NJD in yer division.

Spud LOATHES the (rump)Rangers and the Islandgirls.

Spud used to cheer fer Pittsberg but after Super Mario wound down it seemed a little pointless (just like the team itself ^_^)

Don't even get Spud started on the Filly Flies.

So unless yer boys are actually taking on the mighty, mighty Canucks Spud sez good on ya to the NJDs!

Be Well.

Do blacks feel better with this kind of action/apology made to them? Can someone explain?

~Sleepingsingle-inamurphybed

Politeness is the grease that oils the wheels of a civilised society. Even though Slavery officially ended after the War between the States it's ugly aftermath lingered on for far too long.

Jim Crow laws, KKK, no real civil rights until late in the last century, racism is no longer institutionalised in America but to deny that it is still exists is to shut ones eyes.

Just read Johnsons posts if ya doubt Spud.

Ergo, an apology is WELL IN ORDER.

But there is, as always, a snag.

Many black leaders feel that an apology isn't enuff and that reparations are due.

In Canada after WWII we eventually apologised to the Japanese citizens we interred and offered limited reparations. The Chinese community who were virtual slaves for the building of the cross country railroad were also made victims of a racist head tax and they too seek reparations fer that.

In the States, many folk who would ordinarily have no problems with an official apology fer slavery going down in the record books are hesitant to do so because they don't want that act to lead to lawsuits for reparations.

Spud aint down with reparations for slavery.

Hell, Spud's people, the Ukrainians and others were interred in Camps in BC during the first WW but Spud aint looking fer bucks fer that fact. Still beat the living fuck out of wot was going on in "the old country". Particularily after Stalin came to power. Brr just Brr!

The apology from the Gov was nice to hear though.

Hope that answers yer question, Murph!

Be Well.

Now will Senator Robert Byrd apologize for using the word..."White Negro".
The reason I left the Democratic Party is because they do just th opposite of what the claim to go against.
*They give my black people free houses so they can never educate themselves and continue to live in poor conditions.

*Deny us school vauchers so our kids continue to live in areas that are continuing to have violance and drugs.

*The promote phony leaders like Al and Jesse Jackson and make us hate educated blacks like Powell and Rice.

DEMOCRATS bring the slavery issues and play with it to look good. But they hate us.....they hate us we need to wake the hell up.

*They make us hate BIG CORPORATIONS...this is insane. I love them...they give me a paycheck. If you hate them do not go to work damn it.
*Get off your welfare mentallity...

"Jim Crow laws, KKK, no real civil rights until late in the last century, racism is no longer institutionalised in America but to deny that it is still exists is to shut ones eyes.

Just read Johnsons posts if ya doubt Spud."


Spud - that's kind of a cheap shot. Johnson certainly has his moments but I'm not left with the impression he is a racist. Do you have an example?

Spud - that's kind of a cheap shot. Johnson certainly has his moments but I'm not left with the impression he is a racist. Do you have an example?

You mean like the other day when he was whistfully remembering back to a time when lynching was prevalent in the US and and black folks weren't so much of a problem?

Or his multiple blog-topics under his name where black folks commited one crime or another and he called them "animals"

Like white folk don't commit siliar crimes.

Sorry if you haven't been paying attention Mr Fair but Spud has.

The guy is a racist through and through.

Despite his "prolixity"

He's an educated racist but a racist nonetheless.

Be Well.

Spud - that's kind of a cheap shot. Johnson certainly has his moments but I'm not left with the impression he is a racist. Do you have an example?

Posted by MrFair


Spud goes around calling people "racist" and "nazi" about the same frequency that you or I say, "sir" or "ma'am."

Johnson is not a racist... spud is an ass.

This is a start.

African Americans are owed a huge debt
by European Americans.

WAR: Reparations for slavery

Ok lets apologize to the humans that strongly resemble gorillas.In turn they must apologize for being just 13% of the US population and commiting 56% of the violent crime------OUCH!

Johnson and bigotry:

Called Nicole Simpson and her sister white trash that hit up well to do blacks for money and deserved to die.

But Tickyul has johnson beat, that much is certain.

Hope your daughter marries a "gorilla", dude.

Sorry if you haven't been paying attention Mr Fair but Spud has.

The guy is a racist through and through.

Despite his "prolixity"

He's an educated racist but a racist nonetheless.

Be Well.


Posted by dethspud


Spud - I did indeed miss these. I will research.

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

Who are we going to apologize to? aren't all of the True slaves Dead? Get over it!!

Just think if slavery hadn't existed in america, what the plight of the blacks would be. There would still be slavery in europe and Africa. If there wasn't an outcry from america africa would be a 1000 times worse.

Thousands of years ago the jews were slaves to the Egyptians. were is their apology and reperations? Not a racist, just a realist.

to apologize would be pointless, its all about political correctness and just another ploy to make someone/thing feel better about themselves, yes slavery is no more and has not been in a while, it took a war to settle that, laws have been passed to attempt to bring some balance back, but.. human nature, we are all racist at heart, we lean toward those who are like minded and who we feel comfortable with, until that changes you will always have people making decision based upon all kinds of reasons and race is one of them, simple fact..

Do they also get an apology from the African tribes that kidnapped their ancestors and sold them to whitey? I am Irish and my kin did not own slaves so I owe them NOTHING. Hell, they are better off here than africa anyway. You don't lke it here GO BACK. I hear Kenya is prety nice right now.

"and the most overrated band in history, The Rolling Stones."

They're not overrated. You just have shitty taste.

As for the slavery apology - As a caucasian resident of NJ, I can honestly say that while I realize slavery was a horrible crime, I feel no need to apologize for it. You see, I never owned a slave. My parents and grandparents and great grandparents never owned slaves. My family wasn't in this country until decades after slavery ended. And they were poor as shit. You'd probably have to go back a thousand years to find an ancestor of mine who was rich enough and had the opportunity to own a slave. And if you go back that far, you can probably find slaves in my ancestry. I'm not sorry for something that had nothing to do with me.

Right now, it would be the fast track for illegal aliens and would resolve the whole illegal immigration issue.

Catch 'em, indict 'em, sell 'em.

Guaranteed that the first 1,000 illegal aliens sold on the block would send forth 10,000 out of the country. Keep the sales going and the whole 12,000,000 would leave.

Slavery - it's still legal and the Federal Gov't can sell covicted illegal aliens. Sometimes unpopular solutions are the best ones.

This is a stupid waste of money and time to discuss this with Jersey citizens tax money. Wasteful and idiotic.

This is laughable.
Actually it is completely nonsensical, and should be insulting to Americans that something like this is even considered in modern times.

Are there ANY (even one) slave owner alive today?
Is there someone alive who was a slave during the time slavery occurred?

Answer: No.

Please feel free to move back to your homeland, someplace nice like Darfur, or Kenya.

Sorry...I farted.

Peter Griffin: "Hey Lois - I farted."

Slavery my ass. I want New Jersey to apologize for Camden.

MARYTYLERWHORE:

Couldn't agree with you more! We should give it to Philly. It would blend in perfectly.

Too late! Slavery was a bad thing no doubt.

We are all Americans now. Black, White, Latino and Asian. Some of us are of mixed backgrounds in the U.S.A.

Don't look back at the evils. Move forward with the good.

We need to base things on achievement and capability. Why is everything in the U.S.A. based on skin color or ethnic backgrounds?

Slavery was no doubt bad, but we need to move on.

Another thing... How about a thank you for the free room and housing along with lifetime job security in exchange for doing a few chores in and out of the house...

Apologize? How about a little appreciation... seemed like a sweet setup.

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