It looked like WTC building 7 going down.

Atlantic City will still suck.

"Free Housing For The Homeless"

If they really wanted to improve the waterfront, someone should've hung a sign on it about a week before.

It looked like WTC building 7 going down.

Posted by halo3 at 2007-10-19 12:07 PM

Except with the WTC building there was no obvious blasts and explosions like you can see and hear with this controlled demolition. Undoubtedly the government used alien technology to accomplish this. That's what they are hiding in area 51 you know.

"pull it, and they made that decison to pull it and we watched that building collapse. " Larry Silverstein. Owner.

I don't know about aliens but i know about someone collecting a startling amount of cash.

pull it?

as in pull the firemen away from the building?

"actually Silverstein admitted on public television to pulling WTC building 7"

What does "pulling" mean?

Seems to me like if he wanted to say he had the building demolished, he would have used some form of the word "demolition". That is the proper term to use for what you are trying to imply. Also, he is describing a decision made on 9/11 in your video. Prepping a buidling for demolition takes weeks.

I suspect that clip is 20 seconds long and leaves out all context intentionally. That pro-conspiracy people can't make their case honestly and must resort to presenting intentionally incomplete and vague "evidence" hardly lends credibility to their arguements.

How much money did Silverstein make off those buildings? When did he insure them? 2 weeks before? Was Terrorism covered in the insurance?

You obviously don't get it Sully.

The fire department told him they couldn't contain the fire, so instead of continuing to fight it, to minimize the loss of life, they decided to run in and set up a controlled demolition on the spot, through the flames and smoke. With zero visibility and maneuvering explosives and detonation cable through extreme heat they did in a matter of hours what normally takes months. Then they "watched that building collapse."

I don't see what's so hard to believe.

No Sully, I stand by my first comment, this is all the aliens fault. Those bastards!

The "official" reports that have been issued regarding 9/11, WTC 1, 2 & 7 are incomplete and do not explain the evidence that was present at the scene. They also defy physics.

If one is investigating a crime scene, one doesn't come up with a theory and use the evidence of the crime to build and re-enforce that (one and only) theory, and disregarding the rest of the evidence that doesn't fit one's preferred scenario.

This is called "fabricating a story", not investigating a crime.

The Bush Administration knew about the planned attacks prior to 9/11 and did nothing. And, by action or inaction was complicate in the act. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

Their play book for the invasion/occupations, that the U.S. military are now conducting/planning to conduct, was written long before 9/11, and it is being followed to the letter. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

The people who have profited most are the people who wrote the play-book as-well-as allowed 9/11 to happen, and/or conspired to make 9/11 occur, as-well-as had close family/business ties with the alleged perpetrator. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

The Afghanistan war had NOTHING to do with Bin Laden or the Taliban, or even terrorism; it was to make way for the UnoCal Gas Pipeline; Bin Laden and the Taliban were allowed to leave Afghanistan by the U.S. Military after 9/11. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

Iraq is being invaded and occupied for oil, pure and simple. The plans for invading Iraq were laid out during the Bush Administrations first National Security Council meeting, (10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11). And, the Pentagon filed a report for the White House dated March 5, 2001, and entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield contracts," which includes a map of potential areas for exploration. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

The placement of U.S. Military bases in Afghanistan follow the route of the proposed gas pipeline, just as the bases in Iraq are placed (just as coincidentally) in very close proximity to oil facilities. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

Continued...

Continuation...

Furthermore, NO BUILDING IN HISTORY has or COULD EVER collapse and exhibit ALL of the characteristics of a classic demolition, without it being a CLASSIC DEMOLITION. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

The 9/11 Commission Report, that so many on here tout as the end all piece of evidence to dispute the claims of the 9/11 Truth seekers is incomplete, bias and was written to back up ONE SCENARIO. And, the Chairmen of the 9/11 Commission were dissatisfied with its findings and the shallow scope the commission was allowed to pursue. (This is documented in the mainstream media)

The NIST report's findings contradict its own conclusion, and was written to re-enforce the official story. The NIST report on 9/11 does not explore any other probable scenario.

Likewise the FEMA report also follows one explanation and even states that the scenario that it sites as a cause for the collapses is very unlikely to have occurred.

The Purdue report was funded by the NSF: its director, its deputy director, and the 24 members of the National Science Board (NSB) are appointed by the President of the United States, this does not constitute an "independent investigation". The lead on this project; Mete A. Sozen was the lead in the OK. City Bombing as well as the Purdue investigation of the Pentagon "crash". He also works for the DoD through the BMSP. All of the studies performed mirror the NIST/FEMA reports regarding these incidents, and looked at only one possible outcome; the one that fit the "official" scenario. The NIST data contradict its conclusions and the FEMA report documents the "highly unlikely" probability of its own conclusion.

When one examines the big picture there is very little that doesn't become clear regarding the 9/11 travesty. I have studied this subject at length for more than five years; I will be glad to discuss this matter with ANYONE ...

was I talking about a conspiracy? nope.

Am I a pro conspiracy 9-11 truther? nope.

I was just pointing out that there was possible evidence that WTC7 was intentionally demolished on 9-11 -- which in effect would have made perfect sense due to the damage done and the inability to salvage the building -- there was a gaping hole 20 stories high -- almost one half of the building was already comprimised. It's not hard to believe that it is POSSIBLE that a limited demolition operation took place on the lower floors but again, I really don't care either way. got it?

Someone just sold a hotel in Monopoly.

captainyou`rananus and jonny

Lets look at this conspirisy thing a little closer shall we......

worker- Miss we are going to be here a while is that ok?

miss- Yes, but what will you be doing?

worker-We are just running new telephone lines.

miss-Oh,ok.

worker-Hey don`t bring that in here yet!(yelling to another worker)

worker 2- I`m just dropping it off for later.

miss-Whats that?

worker-Oh, we will have to remove part of the walls to run the lines. That is just a cutting torch.

Miss-What will you be using THAT for?(showing a little alarm in her voice)

worker-We will be cutting through some of the beams so we can pass the line through.

miss-oh?

worker- not to worry we will be done in a couple of days.

miss- ok then.


.....and there you have it helmet heads, an actual conversation repeated dozens of times throughout the building.

Was the building really just 26 years old?

An astonishing statement if that is the case.

Regards,
etc.

And yet the Brooklyn Bridge is 125 years old, even more astonishing if you think about it.

Bought and sold, bought and sold, as evidenced by the drudgies who pollute this site.

rwd

BuffaloBobShit is studying the video. Reports are that he sees the blue dot.......more to come.

RWD..... "and there you have it helmet heads, an actual conversation repeated dozens of times throughout the building."

Funny that you would use that example for an argument against the WTC demolition theory, and it is indicative of your lack of knowledge having to do with the subject for which you ridicule other for not believing what you do in regards to ...

The security of the Trade Center Plaza was run by Securacom, now called Stratesec. Marvin Bush (GWB's brother) was a director of Securacom, which is known for doing classified work for the military. GWB's cousin was the head of WTC Plaza security up until 9/10/2001. John P. O'Neill's (the terrorist expert that was an outspoken critic of the Bush administration's handling of terrorist threats to America and that resigned from the Bush administration) first day on the job was 9/11/2001 ...

In the months leading up to 9/11 there was an inordinate amount of cabling updates going on even though the cat5 cable had already been updated a year or so earlier ...

And, there was a complete 36 hr power-down (no one in or out other than security and workers authorized by security) of the trade center complex the weekend preceding 9/11 ...

I don't want ANYONE to believe me ...

However, before ridiculing a person for believing something other than you do, maybe have at least a working knowledge of the subject being discussed, because otherwise the conversation ends up like one in which an Astrophysicist tries to explain gravity to a three year old; I end up frustrated, and you end up confused ...

Look Captain i am not confused,the facts of the WTC disaster is noted by the fact that it was played out on national tv.
Airplanes hit the WTC and they collasped due to fire and weakened structual damage.
Building 7 was reported as being on fire and believed to collaspe at any time as was reported.
The truthers used this report to say that building 7 was reported to collaspe before it actually did.
Which is utter bullshit.Someone at the scene with first hand knowledge passed this information on either through a news source or rescue channels.
There is an ethic code in the US courts against manufactured evidence as you suggest but does not apply in the court of public opinion.
Lets talk about evidence,it takes months to prep a building for demolition.As anyone has seen on any discovery channel buildings are stripped and all the support beams are cut and shape charges are placed so when they go off the building comes down in its prescribed manner.Det cord will not cut a beam and even massive charges placed at a beam will not insure to do its intended job of cutting it.
On the scale of all this around so many people they all remained in the dark?
How many suspicous deaths are there surrounding this adventure.Are there any at all?
Why is it so hard for people like you to think through what you are saying and to look at the big picture and think outside the box.
You say there was a 36 hour power down at the WTC?Just what do you think they were doing? Cutting beams?
There was untold millions of dollars in those buildings do you think they should just let people walk around?
I just don`t get what you are trying to say or prove.
You are perhaps suggesting that our government is behind all this?
If it was a democratic president in office at the time would you still maintain your thoughts?
If there was no war?
You think the way you do Captain i`ll think the way i do.
Something to think about,when the buildings collasped there was as some would suggest, proof of explosions by the way debris blew out sideways on the lower floors.
Think.
What was the airpressure like inside the buildings as they were collasping down on themselves?


rwd

Holy fuck,I missed the astrophysicist part.
You are a astrophysicist?
Explain gravity to me, seriously.
I know gravity is actually a body falling but where does the power of gravity come from.

rwd

CONTINUATION...

RWD ... "I just don't get what you are trying to say or prove."

Well, that "comprehension" thing may come into play here ...

RWD ... "You are perhaps suggesting that our government is behind all this?"

No, just the regime that has taken control of the most powerful office on the planet by coup ...

RWD ... "If it was a democratic president in office at the time would you still maintain your thoughts?"

Sure, if the "official story" was as confused, contradictory and didn't explain the evidence ...

RWD ... "If there was no war?"

If the wars that have been fought in the "War of Terror" weren't blatantly fought to gain control of the energy resources of the two countries in question it might not be as obvious. But, just the fact that the "official story" is as full of holes as it is would be more than enough to produce the same level of suspicion ...


RWD ... "You think the way you do Captain i`ll think the way i do."

I will ...

RWD ... "Something to think about,when the buildings collasped there was as some would suggest, proof of explosions by the way debris blew out sideways on the lower floors. Think. What was the airpressure like inside the buildings as they were collasping down on themselves?"

Yeah, this is why windows all the way around the building ten stories below the collapse were blown out; because the "air pressure" built up that far ahead of the collapse ... Yeah ... "Air pressure" blew out "HURRICANE WINDOWS" ten stories AHEAD of the collapse that was producing said "air pressure"; good theory ...

Given the physical law of equal and opposite reaction in a collision, why didn't the top remaining structure disintegrate floor per floor with the bottom structure, thereby reducing the energy of the collision exponentially, instead of the top remaining structure staying intact until it fell (at freefall velocity) into the dust plume 50 stories below???

Given that the top structure fell to the ground at near free fall velocity, how do you account for the resistance loss of the remaining structure???

Given the fact that the NIST report states the there was only enough fuel left from the initial impact of the plane to raise the temperature of the steel to 600F degrees, how do you account for the steel weakening enough to cause a collapse???

(I got a million of 'em)...