Doubtful. No one power voluntarily gives up the power.

Kind of like CEO giving up the millions they are paid because they feel bad about receiving it.

Clinton was asked about a statement she made on Tuesday when criticizing the Bush administration's conduct in Iraq. She said she hadn't known that Blackwater USA, the military contractor accused of killing more than a dozen Iraqi civilians last month, had immunity from prosecution in Iraq because of an exemption approved soon after the US invasion.

"Maybe I should have known about it; I did not know about it," she said yesterday.

Asked if that suggested she, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, was not sufficiently vigilant on the contractors issue, she said she has been raising questions about contractors for several years and opposed the government's use of them.

Wow! Really doing her job now isn't she? Seems the corrupt lying machine of Hillary is starting to surface more and more and show just how ignorant she really is to the plight of NORMAL Americans.

Waste of a vote, vote for Hillary is like voting for Bush all over again.

Clinton recently floated the idea of issuing a $5,000 bond to each baby born in the United States to help pay for college and a first home, but it immediately inspired Republican ridicule and she quickly said she would not implement the proposal.

Don't believe she would just be another Bush, republicans squaaaaaawwwwk and seh quickly follows with sorry I won't try that!!!

Seems like the Jethros are nervous.

Seriously doubt it, given her husband's track record to embrace the expansion of the powers of the "unitary executive" forged by Reagan and Bush Sr. during their terms.

Nevertheless, when Bill Clinton took office, his Justice Department did not entirely reject the broad vision of executive power asserted by Reagan and the first President Bush. During the '90s, the OLC was relatively cautious in its assertion of executive power, with a little more respect for congressional prerogatives, but it still mostly embraced the Reagan and Bush administrations' views of the unitary executive. "I strongly upheld executive power and handed it on largely intact," recalls Walter Dellinger, who took over the OLC in 1993.

Listen to Corky and vote for more Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton. If you really want change in America vote Kucunich if a Dem and Paul if a Repub.

Hillary: I Will Undo Bush's Power Grab

Actually, she will do something extraordinary. She will surpass Bush in the number of stupid phrases said by a President and she's not even President yet!

Ron Paul has got some enthusiastic followers.

After ridiculing Clinton's idea of a $5000 bond to help pay for college and a first home, Bush immediately ordered the Armed Forces to increase their enlistment bonuses to $5000 for low IQ and felon recruits, $7000 to those who actually graduated high school and signed a "no-gay" promise, and $20,000 in deferred bonuses to those who can survive both Iraq and watching the Larry Craig explanation of why he is staying in the Senate.

Ron Paul remimds me of Ross Perot.

I just hope all the Republicans who cheered on Dumbya's power grabs will like watching Hillary exercise those powers. Oh, and if she also has a Democratic Congress...
I know I will sleep better knowing Rudy is no where near the WH.

Actually, she will do something extraordinary. She will surpass Bush in the number of stupid phrases said by a President and she's not even President yet!

Posted by LastAmerican at 2007-10-16 07:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not possible, but you can dream.

Hillary exercise those powers. Oh, and if she also has a Democratic Congress...

Danni, Democrats in the White House and Congress, It's to be expected. Buy Gold!!! We will get through it and will be better and stronger after this event.

Another Reagan will come to undo all the damage.

"Ron Paul remimds(sic) me of Ross Perot."

Posted by LastAmerican

I voted for Ross.

Another Reagan will come to undo all the damage

Posted by LastAmerican at 2007-10-16 07:58 PM


Sad.

Not possible, but you can dream.

Posted by Alexandrite


LOL, it's happening and she's not even President. She did it as first Lady, she's doing it as Congresswoman. America loves Presidents who say stupid things! Makes all of us think that we are smarter than the president. *grin*

Another Reagan will come to undo all the damage.

Posted by LastAmerican at 2007-10-16 07:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, like reagan, rudi seems to think aliens are going to invade us...

Buy Gold!!!

Hmmmmm!!!! I wonder who this sounds like?

I am amased at how few actual people post to this blog, all seem to be the same people with different ID's.

I wonder if this hurts RCADE in the business arena? I as a Business certainly wouldn't want to put too much maney into the same posters with different names.

Damn it! Now she has got my attention. Dear MS. Clinton- a good swift kick in the cajonies will do for a start and might just give you the election.

I just hope all the Republicans who cheered on Dumbya's power grabs will like watching Hillary exercise those powers.

I am certainly glad our election process for a Democratic runner is through, would want some type of conspiracy charge made with statements like this.

It appears we don't need to go to the polls, since hillary has already made it to office and all.

Is it liberal media or Corporate media, I have not figured this out but certainly am not convoluted as who supports the Corporate mantra.

Another Reagan will come to undo all the damage.

Posted by LastAmerican at 2007-10-16 07:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, like reagan, rudi seems to think aliens are going to invade us...

Posted by Alexandrite


I love Rudy. Wasn't he in Ghostbusters 2?

"I will undo Bush's power grab."

Translation:

"I will replaced Bush's power grab with my own."

replace

This from the woman who wants to nationalize 7% of the US economy, pick your doctor for you, make all of your critical decisions from cradle to grave, sell our interests and secrets for influence and power. This is the same woman who lied to congress, ignored subpoenas for billing records, developed alzheimers rather than testify, and was actively involved in the most criminal regime in recent memory. BULLSHIT!!! It is more likely that welfare recipients will return their checks than it is that she would give up the power.

Perhaps what is sadder is someone like Danni, who opposes such power being used by Bish, is elated that the Hildebeast will wield such power and the pain she will inflict on Republicans and other members of her "vast right wing conspiracy".

Sure she will. If it looks like a Republican is replacing her in 2017.

But the Republicans who currently swear these powers are the only thing keeping Osama from flying 747s into the your neighborhood Piggly Wiggly will suddenly decide in January 2009 that we aren't in danger any more and don't need them.

Some CLOWN wrote this: Waste of a vote, vote for Hillary is like voting for Bush all over again.

Posted by moneywar at 2007-10-16 04:50 PM |

Hey MoneyWar just say no to drugs.

Fellow comrades.

Hillary is our last best hope at realizing true greatness for the motherland! Soon our kids will have 5000 dollars at birth and we will all be equal! The rich fat cats won't have all the good doctors. We can all have equally bad ones!

Yes comrades the time is near!

Soon we will spread rent control across the nation. And move the cap tax rate to 90 percent. Utopia at last!

If you need me i am gonna be getting a good place in the bread line.

Some CLOWN wrote this: Waste of a vote, vote for Hillary is like voting for Bush all over again.

Posted by moneywar at 2007-10-16 04:50 PM |

Hey MoneyWar just say no to drugs.

Posted by whodat1b at 2007-10-16 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag

Afraid to use your normal ID?

LOL!!!

Yes, go vote for the Bush-a-like Democrat, her early republican years will help you out quite a bit so it would appear only to you.

Clinton is just bad for too many reasons, Ron Paul may show better at the booth than Perot, he became a joke, that was sad. Ron Paul is closer to good than all the stinking same ole same ole.

If you need me i am gonna be getting a good place in the bread line.

Posted by joeSTALIN at 2007-10-16 08:53 PM | Reply | Flag

I like neo-liberal posters like this, they know so little about this candidate but are willing to spout out things never ever would be part of the candidates mantra. It goes against the very Corporate grain of the candidates support.

Yes comrades the time is near!
Posted by joeSTALIN
I love this stuff, I am laughing my ass off.

LOL

"If we have Hillarycare, Canadians will have no place to go for their health care." -- Rudy Giuliani

LOL!!

If we have Rudycare, Americans will have no place to go to get their healthcare---BOWA

Comrade Moneywar

You must envision the Utopia! See the equality! Government running your life and never having to make one of those annoying things in life called a decision. You and I will be comrades forever in our godless glory!

We can partake in government sanctioned activities like drinking vodka and loveless sex.
Comrade believe as I believe!

I just hope all the Republicans who cheered on Dumbya's power grabs will like watching Hillary exercise those powers. Oh, and if she also has a Democratic Congress...
I doubt you will hear many complaints regarding the presidents power to protect national security.

But I bet you will hear compaints about the power grab of peoples money and its "redistribution". You will hear many complaints regarding the move to place government in charge of health care.

How did the hearings for the "nappy headed 6" go? Any policy changes resulting from these "nappy headed fools" attacking a student in the cafateria of the school?

If we have Rudycare, Americans will have no place to go to get their healthcare
Yo mondayWar, can you give any examples of someone being denied healthcare in US? I can give you tens of thousands of examples of no one being denied healthcare, Se Senior?

So whats your point about american having no place to get healthcare?

Doubtful. No one power voluntarily gives up the power.
Posted by Petrous

One of the things that made George Washington so amazing. That is what American Government is supposed to be about.

I wonder if this hurts RCADE in the business arena? I as a Business certainly wouldn't want to put too much maney into the same posters with different names.

I use one name and only one name, Money. Gold is making the headlines these days and attracting a following. You'll be kicking yourself in a few years.

stalin,

It would appear you have a sense of humor but that is about it in the abilities of mental prowess.

If you understood any of my post you would clearly see I am not a Hillary supporter, but then your humor wouldn't be all that funny now would it.

Hillary is in fact very much a conservative Corporate pandering shill with a tendency toward helping wayward children.

Hillary will raise taxes and give the money to the Corporate arena, no different than the BUSH regime, it will just be the Clinton regime.

Whow difficult is this for ya! She will still run the country in the facist state that Bush has now.

She will just replace the powers with her own brand of corruption.

She has no experience--the junior senator from NY is her claim to fame for anything political--no mayor--no governor--not even experience in running a business..

Oh she runs on her husband's record and she was a first lady.

Could anyone imagine Nancy Reagan or Lady Bird Johnson or Laura Bush running for President??

She is a joke--except no one will be laughing if she wins.

Murphy

Ray,


Don't you also have Ray1 as a handle?


What about GayRay? :-)

But I bet you will hear compaints about the power grab of peoples money and its "redistribution". You will hear many complaints regarding the move to place government in charge of health care.

This is the funniest post in a long time coming from a Republican neo-liberal no less.

The fastest redistribution of wealth of this country's life time has occurred on this Bush watch and Hillary will slow it a little but that is only for appeasement of the masses.

Murphy is correct!

Comrade moneywar

Don't be fooled! Look into hillarys past and you will see the greatness that is to be! There is hope for you! Soon our civil rights will be trampled on and the glorious government will monitor you and your thoughts all the time.

All happiness all the time! We will drug up the population and there will be no more tears. No more relationships. No more families for our nation will be one giant family in this brave new world. Oh comrade moneywar you will be very very happy. And if you aren't well... we have places for people like you.

If we have Rudycare, Americans will have no place to go to get their healthcare
Yo mondayWar, can you give any examples of someone being denied healthcare in US? I can give you tens of thousands of examples of no one being denied healthcare, Se Senior?

So whats your point about american having no place to get healthcare?

Posted by slicksterWilly at 2007-10-16 09:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yep, this is all just a made up issue and is played out by the liberal media.

RUDYCARE MEANS AMERICANS WILL HAVE NO PLACE TO GO TO GET HEALTHCARE

unless your rich

Hillary is a liar and as scary for this country as Giuliani.. Even if she were to not use signing statements (as her husband did), what about executive orders??? Those are even worse..

Nothing will get better with a politician that panders to corporations - PERIOD! It might be different, but it won't be better.

Joestalin,

Yes, Hillary will be like lenin after bushlin is out of office! Nothing changed there!

Except for Paul, they're all scary and all too much alike. Sadly, come November, millions of mindless Americans will vote to continue the two party circus. If anybody thinks it was bad under Bush, they ain't seen nothing yet.

Except for Paul, they're all scary and all too much alike. Sadly, come November, millions of mindless Americans will vote to continue the two party circus. If anybody thinks it was bad under Bush, they ain't seen nothing yet.

Yeah, I do believe it is going to get worse... Although it will be a different set of victims this time around..

If Ron Paul can't get the nomination, I sincerely hope that Hillary wins.. I think that her tenure will be the final step in FORCING Americans to realize that corporate politicians are in power for themselves, not us.. I actually thought that Pelosi and the dem congress' failures would have been enough, but both parties have their diehard idiots..

Comrade Ray i agree with you.

We need the one party system. All these parties just cause conflict and non happy feelings. For the collective greater good of the motherland lets all be part of one party and never argue!

Doubtful. No one power voluntarily gives up the power.

EXACTLY! Which is why we're fucked. You never let wannabe dictators get power in the first place.

But the GOP sat there and enabled Bush to grab unprecidented power, and now every President is going to want that power.

We tried to warn you dipshits this was going to happen. Hillary isn't going to give up the power. So bend over and grab your ankles, because dictator Hillary is about to take you for a ride.

Have fun you fucking idiots.

All these Hillary haters and all voted for an idiot twice.

Can't take what they say seriously for sure.

Not to mention that this is just one of many things Hillary won't do right.. She won't table the discussion of attacking Iran, she won't bring the troops home anytime soon, she won't reverse the Patriot Act, and she will allow the NAU to move forward... If it sounds like a neocon...

All these Hillary haters and all voted for an idiot twice.

You are a fucking child.. The world is not black and white except for people too stupid to see it otherwise..

I hate hillary and bush.. Can you wrap your primitive brain around that?? I didn't vote for Bush and I won't vote for Hillary..

Have fun you fucking idiots.

Posted by Norm


Who are you talking to?

Comrade i agree with you! But together we can vote hillary into power and refashion this country into a beautiful place. Imagine no walls, no religion! Ahh it almost sounds like a song.

Soon comrade soon!

All these Hillary haters and all voted for an idiot twice.

Can't take what they say seriously for sure.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-10-16 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag

So out of the light comes the one individual we certainly can take seriously!!!!!

TAAADAAAAA it's the omnipotent, omnipresent AU!

Who are you talking to?

It seems pretty obvious that Norm is referring to all of you that continue to vote for corporate candidates....

IT's AU, the oh so benevolent one....just ask him....he'll be the first to tell ya!

It seems pretty obvious that Norm is referring to all of you that continue to vote for corporate candidates....

Posted by jsprague

Oh, sorry. I should have voted for Ralph Nader.


My bad.

Many of you were bashing the Anne Coulter pic on here the other night. Seriously, which pic is more annoying?

1. The current pic of Hillary on this banner ad?

OR,

2. The pic of Anne Coulter that has appeared on the DR banner ad?

Vote 1 OR 2 NOW.

At the end of a long night....and drunk on your ass....who would you be more likely to let take you home?

Vote 1 OR 2 NOW.

Oh, sorry. I should have voted for Ralph Nader.

No, you should definitely keep voting for corporate shills since that is working out so well..

If you want real change in America, this is how you get if. All Dems vote Kucunich, all Repubs vote Paul. Now tell me I'm not correct if that happened.

It seems pretty obvious that Norm is referring to all of you that continue to vote for corporate candidates....

Posted by jsprague


Um, I don't decide who gets on the ballot. Take it up with someone else.

Or is it that you really believe there have some been someone from the 2 parties NOT a corporate whore?

Or is that you think you are special because you can recognize a corporate whore on the ballot.

which fucked up delusion are you suffering from?

Who are you talking to?

Everyone who sat by and supported Bush as he wiped his ass with the Constitution in the name of "National Security".

All you righties sat there and did nothing, said we had to support Bush or the terrorists win, had to allow warrantless wiretaps or the terrorists win, had to give up 'minor freedoms' or the terrorists win.

And everytime any true Constitution supporting patriot pushed back, it was an endless stream of "Shut up you America-hating, terrorist loving, pinko faggot commie traitors."

You used the rhetoric of 9-11 and the War to stifle all dissent as Bush grabbed power, and now we'll never get it back.

So like I said, all you Bush supporters, have fun with Hillary.

Um, WE do decide who gets on the ballots. If you are Dem vote Kucunich and if Repub vote Paul. Do you think that will be a change from Hillary, Rudy/Romney?

So like I said, all you Bush supporters, have fun with Hillary.

Posted by Norm_


Is your name Norma? You are such a pussy.

A pussy?

I'm not the one who surrendered my rights for a false promise of security.

Go sleep with the lights on. A terrorist is going to get you if you don't give up another 'minor' freedom.

Or is it that you really believe there have some been someone from the 2 parties NOT a corporate whore?

It is not a belief, it is a fact.. There are at least 3 candidates aiming for the primaries that fit this bill. And then there are third parties...

Posting in here doesn't count as campaigning for a candidate. Ron Paul is doing well because people are participating in the political process.

If you aren't doing any of these things or voting for any of these people, then yes, you are essentially voting for the corporations to continue their reign over our country.

It is not a belief, it is a fact.. There are at least 3 candidates aiming for the primaries that fit this bill.

you poor soul.

Comrade norm you are very correct!

The government is wrong for wanting to be able to wire tap conversations taking place with suspected terrorist occurring outside of the U.S. This is a total waste. What we need is some real wiretapping. Pansy bush won't listen to the conversations of regular Joes in America. My friend Vladamir tells me this makes Bush weak.

I'm not the one who surrendered my rights for a false promise of security.

who did? I've always had it.

On the other hand, how many "false sense of securites" do you think you need?

you poor soul.

Your wasted vote...

On the other hand, how many "false sense of securites" do you think you need?

Posted by eberly

2, his Mom's right and left nipple.

Your wasted vote...

Tell me who I voted for.

Please.

I'm not the one who surrendered my rights for a false promise of security.

who did? I've always had it.

On the other hand, how many "false sense of securites" do you think you need?

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-16 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

The true intellectual who believes in the American Republic and its Constitution. And Imagine, this individual was once one of its soldiers sworn to defend that piece of paper.

My how the ideals of our vets have fallen!

Your wasted vote...

Tell me who I voted for.

Please.

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-16 10:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

It doesn't matter, clearly you lack the patriotic ideals of our constitution so your vote is just a straw horse!

clearly you lack the patriotic ideals of our constitution so your vote is just a straw horse!

How is that?

Furthermore, how is your vote any different?

Tell me who I voted for.

Doesn't matter.. I can tell by your rhetoric who you didn't vote for... You voted for corporations and money..

Comrade,

The relation of the producers to the sum total of their own labor is presented to them as a social relation, existing not between themselves, but between the products of their labor. This is the reason why the products of labor become commodities, social things whose qualities are at the same time perceptible and imperceptible by the senses ... The existence of the things qua commodities, and the value relation between the products of labor which stamps them as commodities, have absolutely no connection with their physical properties and with the material relations arising therefrom. It is a definite social relation between men that assumes, in their eyes, the fantastic form of a relation between things. In order, therefore, to find an analogy, we must have recourse to the mist-enveloped regions of the religious world. In that world, the productions of the human brain appear as independent beings endowed with life, and entering into relation both with one another and the human race. So it is in the world of commodities with the products of men's hands. This I call the Fetishism which attaches itself to the products of labor, as soon as they are produced as commodities, and which is therefore inseparable from the production of commodities. This Fetishism of Commodities has its origin ... in the peculiar social character of the labor that produces them.

Doesn't matter.. I can tell by your rhetoric who you didn't vote for... You voted for corporations and money..

Posted by jsprague

Really? Then answer my question.

Or shut the fuck up and leave this blog.

Really? Then answer my question.

Or shut the fuck up and leave this blog.

LOL!!!!

Might testy this evening are we Eberly?

I'd like to believe her. But I don't.

Might testy this evening are we Eberly?

Maybe I should finish all my posts with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who does that? Who is "testy"?

whatever. You just accused me of all kinds of things and you call me testy.

Really? Then answer my question.

I did answer your question.. You voted for a corporate shill.. You already announced that by stating that you didn't vote for Nader and I know that you didn't vote for the Libertarian candidate. What you did in the primaries might be a different story, but is still irrelevant because that is not what I was referring to. The only other option is that you didn't vote at all...

Or shut the fuck up and leave this blog.

Are you aware that I would refuse this "order" here and in real life. You are not the boss of me...

Comrades

I see you constantly bashing coorperations and money. This is a very agreeable line of logic. We should do away with the cooperations and have the state run everything. This way everyone is equal and everything is fair.

Hillary is the better leader. She will convert more of the economy to goverment rule. More goverment rule means a more fair life for all.

For the motherland!

I did answer your question.. You voted for a corporate shill.. You already announced that by stating that you didn't vote for Nader and I know that you didn't vote for the Libertarian candidate. What you did in the primaries might be a different story, but is still irrelevant because that is not what I was referring to. The only other option is that you didn't vote at all...

You did? And then you suggest other options. Which is it? You seem so confident in you opinion.

Perhaps it is just your stupidity you are trying to cover up. It's not working BTW.

I voted for a corporate shill? Which one?

Seriously.

Are you aware that I would refuse this "order" here and in real life.

In real life you would have run away like a pussy.

Comrades yes yes yes

Corporate shills are the worst! If only we had hugo to vote for or vladamir... but fear not... hillary will soon become one of us! She already is... just wait and see.

JoeStalin is a poor man's ProfessorBates.

Corporate shills are the worst! If only we had hugo to vote for or vladamir... but fear not... hillary will soon become one of us! She already is... just wait and see.

Posted by joeSTALIN at 2007-10-16 11:16 PM

You're an idiot.

INSIGHTFUL...CC

Maybe I should finish all my posts with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who does that? Who is "testy"?

Maybe, you should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!

I really don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

You really are testy, tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shall we continue??????????????????????
????

Oops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$$$$$$...throwing a tantrum....$$$$$ go to your room you are not getting dinner tonight...KIDS!!!!

Comrades

You disagree with me but offer nothing in rebuttal other then a one word insult? I like your style. Free speech is a waste. All debate should be ended.

I voted for a corporate shill? Which one?

I don't really care which one you voted for.. If it is so important to you to prove that you didn't, then why not just say who you voted for..

Again, I really don't care. I feel extraordinarily confident in my assessment based on your own words...

$$$$$$...throwing a tantrum....$$$$$ go to your room you are not getting dinner tonight...KIDS!!!!

No, I was actually laughing the whole time I did the display, it was to get Eberly's ire up.

Oh!!! I see you do it too!!!!!!!!!!!

Well this will shake his little dander up in a hurry.

Again, I really don't care. I feel extraordinarily confident in my assessment based on your own words...

Posted by jsprague

All lies. You care deeply. confident? oh, that is why you answered the question. Oh wait, you have refused several times.

that sure sounds like confidence.

You don't know shit. I don't presume to know who you voted for and I would NOT assign that to you.

You are a fucking loser.

Eberly,

Working too long and the wife pissin on ya?

Chill out, get into the grove, and don't be so hostile. You don't play hostile very well, it gets into your emotions.

Joe the unsoapy sez...

You disagree with me but offer nothing in rebuttal other then a one word insult?

O-tay. Spud can fix that.

Hey Joey Bathroomstallin'!

Yer persona is predicated on the idea that there is still a little left left in the ole Democratic party. That they are the tools of evil socialist and maybe even communist plots or sommat.

Tee Hee!

Here's a clue, dude.

There's very little left left in American politics.

Yer pushing a button that has been installed in the Amrican conscience quite deliberately over a large number of years but here's the thing.

It's broken now.

The Right has moved so far to the right they can read Mein Kampf over Hitlers shoulders. The extreme left in US politics stand with one toe over the line on the left and one toe over over the line one the right.

Thirty years ago you might have made a bit of a case but these days? Not so much.

That sed Spud thinks yer funny and should stick around fer a while.

Spud's weird.

Be Well.

You don't know shit. I don't presume to know who you voted for and I would NOT assign that to you.

If you presumed a position that stated I voted for someone I did not, I would simply correct you and tell you who I did vote for..

You are being childish and trying to prove a losing point, because in the end, you did vote for a corporate shill.. If you didn't, you would have just announced who you voted for. I will not respond to another one of these posts from you unless you dispute my point by offering who you really did vote for. Otherwise, I will continue to believe that I am right...

The Right has moved so far to the right they can read Mein Kampf over Hitlers shoulders.

While I agree that the extreme right is, in fact extreme; I wouldn't go so far as to have them in lock-step with the viewpoint of Hitler.


The extreme left in US politics stand with one toe over the line on the left and one toe over over the line one the right.

On this you are simply mistaken.

You are being childish and trying to prove a losing point, because in the end, you did vote for a corporate shill.. If you didn't, you would have just announced who you voted for. I will not respond to another one of these posts from you unless you dispute my point by offering who you really did vote for. Otherwise, I will continue to believe that I am right...

Posted by jsprague

read your own post. I'm being childish? You accuse me of something you don't know shit about.

the truth is that I didn't vote. You assume I voted for GWB because you NEED to believe that. That is because you are pussy liberal who can't see past the nose on your face. That is the simple life you lead. And quite sad.

Kerry was such a great alternative wasn't he? Wouldn't even stand up to a political opponent.

Loser.

Of course, you won't respond to this :-(

I will not respond to another one of these posts from you unless you dispute my point by offering who you really did vote for

I'm going to bed. I'm quite confident that when I check back in the morning, you won't be man enough to tell me who you voted for.

Your're too stupid.

Hillary: I Will Undo Bush's Power Grab


This reminds me of the Public Service Announcement by Keith Richards:

"Kids, just say NO to drugs! More for ME, mate!"

Your're = You're

I'll gladly accept any ridicule for that one.

good night.

Jeff J-
Google "Verschrfte Vernehmung".

That didn't copy well. "Verscharfte Vernehmung"

Try that Jeff -- and maybe Eberly should as well.

What the fuck does it matter who voted for whom. A more interesting discussion would find personal animosities and irrelevant details dumb and boring.

Can't we make this a dialogue about issues, not plain silliness?

Eberly,

I was right afterall..

I stated earlier... The only other option is that you didn't vote at all...

Personally, I believe a no vote is better than a vote for a corporate candidate. JMHO..

Now as for my voting record.. Here you go..

2008 Primaries - Ron Paul (R)
2004 - Michael Badnarik (L)
2000 - George Bush (R)(Yes, this is very hard to admit.. I punch myself in the balls daily for this decision.)
1996 - Bill Clinton (D)
1992 - Ross Perot (I)

Before you attack me and state the obvious.. Yes, I have voted for corporate candidates in the past. Mistakes were made, but will not be repeated..

Also note that I never called you stupid or insulted you...

I'll gladly accept any ridicule for that one.

How gracious. An example to us all.

Consider yourself roundly ridiculed.

If you can post an internet photo of the aftermath, we would all be appropriately appreciative.

Regards,
etc.

I'm going to bed. I'm quite confident that when I check back in the morning, you won't be man enough to tell me who you voted for.

It must be so hard to be so wrong..

" I'm quite confident that when I check back in the morning, you won't be man enough to tell me who you voted for."

Why should anyone have to tell you who they voted for? It's no ones business if they don't want to share that information.

It takes less of a man to make a statement like you have Eb...and I'm shocked you would think one needs to answer to you in order to be considered a man.

Good grief!

JoeStalin, I really enjoy your sense of humor. The funniest jokes are those which are rooted in the truth. No wonder the lefties on this blog want to insult you. You are shining the light of truth on Hillary in a funny, sarcastic way. Please keep it up.

Why should anyone have to tell you who they voted for? It's no ones business if they don't want to share that information.


That is mostly true.. It is not a requirement, but it doesn't mean that one can't (or shouldn't) share who they voted for...

Most people should keep it secret...

Yep that Hillary sure is the uniter she says she is, just look at this thread.

I'm not sure what your tactics are Taxman, so I'm going to keep on acting tuff until I figure it out....

she meant OUTDO
jasman

We will trade one kind power-grab for another. In my mind Hillary and her ilk will much more greatly limit my freedoms than Bush and Co ever imagined.

Raising taxes limits my economic freedom. Requiring me to have health insurance limits my freedom. Requiring me to obtain my health care from the government limits my freedoms. Cripe she will want to pass laws dictating what I can eat, how much I can weigh, how I need to raise my children. These effect every US citizen. These are much more restrictive than Bush and Co listening in on a few hundred phone calls between terrorists.

If anyone thinks for one minute that Hillary will undo what has been done, is naive at best stupid at worst. There is no insentive for her to do this, why give up all that power to someone else when she thinks, she is morally impervious to coruption. Government rarly if ever gives up ill gotten power, it goes against the very nature of the creature. Things will be no different if she gets elected other than the war in Iraq will be a good thing and people will get more free stuff at tax payer expense.

I have to agree.

There is no insentive.
Impervious to coruption.
Rarly if ever gives up.
Very nature of the creature.
Tax payer expense.

It was even equally hard to type. I had to go back and correct each word I typed correctly.

Why are there more ditto heads commenting on these articles than progressives? Why are you people so infatuated with us? On the rare occasion that I visit a ditto head site like Drudge Report or Free Republic, the comments are virtually all hate radio talking points.

The same thing happens if you throw on Limbaugh of Hannity. All they talk about is the Democrats and how they have no ideas, talent, integrity or patriotism. Likewise with the debates. It's all about how the Democrats won't keep you safe or are going to turn the country into But what else do conservatives have to talk about they have no accomplishments - just a series of stunning failures and setbacks.

YayBob,


Why are there more ditto heads commenting on these articles than progressives? Why are you people so infatuated with us?


I think you have it backwards - your liberal bretheren apparently watch Fox News 24/7 and religiously listen to Rush and Hannity. I know this because they know more about these media outlets than do most conservatives.


On the rare occasion that I visit a ditto head site like Drudge Report or Free Republic, the comments are virtually all hate radio talking points.

Open your eyes and you'll see a tone of all hate leftwing talking points here - and this blog is far more moderate than some of the hard-core lefty blogs.


ll they talk about is the Democrats and how they have no ideas, talent, integrity or patriotism. Likewise with the debates. It's all about how the Democrats won't keep you safe or are going to turn the country into

You just described your side of the aisle to a "T".

Ron Paul remimds me of Ross Perot.

Posted by LastAmerican at 2007-10-16 07:52 PM | Reply |

He doesn't do that for me. I mean hes got no pie charts ?!?!? WTF !??!

""I know this because they know more about these media outlets than do most conservatives.""

Can't speak for anyone else but I never watch Fox. I never listen to Rush. Every time I have tried I found myself becoming angry about the distortions and lies so I just avoid them completely.

On the DR we choose to tackle distortions and lies head on....think about it.

I think it's sad to say, but I don't think ANY president will be willing to give up any power granted by the previous Administration. Where's the incentive?

My personal opinion is that Hillary's straying too far to the right (maybe a good thing depending on your perspective) to cater to right wing voters. I think that's why the Republicans are going nuts over her, because they see she's becoming an appealing alternative to some moderates.

This is good but I also want to hear how she is going to have the US Gov stop paying for lifelong security protection for the the EX VP and Pres.

That will be really good news. It's one thing to have these assholes cost us billions while they are in office and it's another to have to continue paying for them until the day they die. Which is, by the way, a day we can only look forward to.

This hungry bitch will increase the so called Bush power grab. If "Walking Eagle " is elected president the power grab will double.

Can't speak for anyone else but I never watch Fox. I never listen to Rush. Every time I have tried I found myself becoming angry about the distortions and lies so I just avoid them completely.
Of course, CBS (rathergate), NBC, ABC, CNN never are accused of distortions or lies.

What a tool.

Can't speak for anyone else but I never watch Fox. I never listen to Rush. Every time I have tried I found myself becoming angry about the distortions and lies so I just avoid them completely.
Of course, CBS (rathergate), NBC, ABC, CNN never are accused of distortions or lies.

What a tool.

Can't speak for anyone else but I never watch Fox. I never listen to Rush. Every time I have tried I found myself becoming angry about the distortions and lies so I just avoid them completely.
Can you provide one example where Fox lied or distorted the truth in a news report. Not an opinion show on Fox, but a news report?

There are news reports on Fox?

Sorry Slickster, you ran headlong into that one. At full speed I might add.

This worthless marxist bitch does'nt have a clue , her and that piece of shit husband violated every institution , and doctrine that our forefathers setup , she can rot in hell , the fucking lying bitch .

KNIGHTHAWK wrote:
"Can't speak for anyone else but I never watch Fox. I never listen to Rush. Every time I have tried I found myself becoming angry about the distortions and lies so I just avoid them completely."

I listen to both Limbaugh and Hannity periodically, about seven minutes while driving home at lunch and again after work. And like you, it makes me angry.

But that's why I listen: lest we forget. I find that it is nearly impossible to remember just how loathesome that half of America is, and I need constant reminding. Why? Because I know a hard rain's a-gonna fall, and a lot of people are going to get very hurt, some undeservedly.

But those ditto heads deserve the absolute worst, and after I've heard them talking to their propagandist, my hate level is restored to where it was the last time I listened, and I find the future a little less hard to take. In fact, I can laugh again. I imagine them being tortured and screaming out, "But I'm one of you!" to guffaws. Suckers.

Liberals? Get the hell out of that country! Give the ditto heads what they want: a country not affected by liberalism (ie, no courts, no rights, etc.)

Yaybob,


But that's why I listen: lest we forget. I find that it is nearly impossible to remember just how loathesome that half of America is,


By that do you mean that each and every individual who is right-of-center is loathsome?

JEFF

That was the worst retort I have ever read. Wouldn't have been simpler just to say, "nah-ah, *you* are!" or "I'm rubber, you're glue, etc.)

JEFF wrote:
"Open your eyes and you'll see a tone of all hate leftwing talking points here"

The only hate I see is for the Bush administration, and in response to you insects who parasitize progressive sites giving opinions that we've already heard and rejected. We don't give a crap what you think, and nobody here is interested in anything you have to say. You're like a gnat, and just as uninvited and unwelcome. If you saw me swatting at real gnats, you'd say I was full of hate, too. Whatever.

Look, I have no reason to hide it. I hate everything that you stand for. You're an American conservative? The world is better off without you.

Yay,


That was the worst retort I have ever read

I am glad you enjoyed it. The reason you're pissed off is because it's true.


I hate everything that you stand for. You're an American conservative? The world is better off without you.

Believe it or not, I am not trying to be obtuse. When you make such a statement I construe it as:

"I hate anybody that disagrees with me politically in anyway."

Is that an accurate representation of your position?

If not, please clarify.

Yaybob gets assertive:

You're like a gnat, and just as uninvited and unwelcome.


Actually, I am quite welcome here.

This may be a liberal blog with a greater concentration of liberals to conservatives, but the site owner makes no effort to discourage conservatives from posting here.

If you are looking to get your lemming on without being challenged on your bullshit, this isn't the site for you - too many Conservatives around too call "bullshit".