The Exorcist:

The "Let Jesus fuck you" scene. Pretty creepy.

Bram Stoker's Dracula:

When the demonic sirens descended on the baby that Dracula threw them and ate it.

2001: A Space Odyssey

When HAL turns the pod on Frank as he is changing the radio component and throws him into space. Benign as it sounds, that scene scared the shit out of this 5th grader when the movie came out.

I'll never forget my experience watching Psycho in 1960. During the bathroom scene, the audience literally jumped from their seats. Movie watchers are used to that stuff now. But then, it was a shocker.

The Lynch stuff is more weird than scary, but "Psycho"...

There are still people out there that insist on locking the bathroom door when they shower.

No Poltergeist? The scene with the clown freaked me out for a couple years after I saw it when I was a kid.

When HAL turns the pod on Frank as he is changing the radio component and throws him into space. Benign as it sounds, that scene scared the shit out of this 5th grader when the movie came out.

Posted by goatman at 2007-10-14 02:02 PM

So you were a 10 year old 5th grader in 1968 when the Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer scared the bejeesus out of you?

Cathy Bates topless in a hot tub.

I agree with most of the above.

I also like the end of the original Halloween when the camera flashes all around the house, yard, etc., while that creepy off-beat theme music is playing and the killer is nowhere to be seen.

Also, I like the final scene in the Shining when Jack Nicholson's character is chasing the kid through the snowy labyrinth with an axe.

Spooky.

The scene with the clown freaked me out for a couple years after I saw it when I was a kid.

Ness, take it from me (I've known circus clowns, even been one): Be very, very careful about trusting clowns.

The lady and the boy from American and Japanese versions of The Grudge. I am not sure why, but the imagery in this movie was extremely disturbing to me.

Two scenes from the American version stand out to me:


Riding the elevator with the glass doors and the little boy appearing on every floor closer and closer to the doors while the lady is obvlivious.
The same lady hiding under her covers, only to have the Grudge lady appear under the covers with her.


In the Japanese version, the most disturbing scene to me is:

Lady immobilized in her bed with the Grudge lady standing, somehow, between the head board and the wall and bending laterally at the waist over the bed with the little boy standing next to the bed.

Out of those three I think the worst is the second one... the Grudge lady under the covers. As a child, if you were scared of the dark, you felt that the covers were kryptonite to whatever boogeymen were out there. It was like a law of nature to kids, and this movie violates that on a very primal level.

My runner up to The Grudge would be the scene in The Sixth Sense where the boy hided under his covers with the flashlight and when he turns it on the dead girl in under them with him. While she wasn't malevolent this has the same visceral impact as The Grudge scene for the same reasons.

While thinking about my previous response, I think the second runner-up for me would be the opening scene of the movie The Boogeyman. While the rest of the movie sucked pretty hard, this opening scene was very scary.

The little boy is in his bed, scared of the dark; everything in his room looks ominous. He sees what looks like a hooded and robed stranger sitting in a chair. He fumbles with the light to see that it is only his jacket (with hood standing up), pants, and baseball bat on his chair laid out to be worn.

He tries to turn the light of, but fumbles and the lamp smashes. As the darkness returns suddenly, the image of the figure returns and rises from the chair and moves towards him....

If you have seen the movie, you will know this scene. If you haven't I would recommend the movie for this scene only. The rest of the movie is ok, but the ending was a lame cop-out.

The Excorsist - all of it.

Cathy Bates topless in a hot tub.

The movie was otherwise good, though

ANTON and GOAT

You'd both do Cathy Bates -- in or out of a hot tub -- in a New York minute if given a chance -- hahahaha

You'd both do Cathy Bates

But not at the same time.

"An Inconvenient Truth" scared the living shit out of me.

But not at the same time.

Posted by goatman at 2007-10-14 08:45 PM

That's good to hear. After last week's "SPCA donation" threads "normal" is nice for a change.

Gee, if Goatman was in the fifth grade and ten years old in 1968 he must have graduated and joined the military at 17 in 1975.

"No Poltergeist? The scene with the clown freaked me out for a couple years after I saw it when I was a kid."

I'm with you.

I saw that with older kids from the neighborhood when I was 8. It was the first time I didn't have an adult with me during the movie.

That clown freaked me out for years afterward. It was the first thing I thought about when I read this headline. Never complained to the folks because I wanted to be allowed to go to the movies without them again.

If Goatman was 10 years old in 1968, I doubt he was a "Viet Nam Era Veteran" as he claimed.

Would he qualify as one of Rushs "phony soldiers", claiming something that wasn't true?

If Goatman was 10 years old in 1968, I doubt he was a "Viet Nam Era Veteran" as he claimed.

Who cares what you think? I know. I was there.

BTW, I was 12 in 1968.

BuffaloBob

In all fairness to Goat, I was the one who mentioned age 10 and the year 1968 when the movie debuted -- not him.

2001: A Space Odyssey

When HAL turns the pod on Frank as he is changing the radio component and throws him into space. Benign as it sounds, that scene scared the shit out of this 5th grader when the movie came out.

Posted by goatman at 2007-10-14 02:02 PM |

So you were a 10 year old 5th grader in 1968 when the Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer scared the bejeesus out of you?

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-10-14 04:44 PM

If Goatman was in the fifth grade in 1968, he would have graduated in 1975. He either lied about being a "Viet Nam Era Veteran" Or he dropped out of school before graduating.
I don't think he dropped out. I think he just lied about being a "Viet Nam Era Veteran"

Just another phony soldier.

CalifChris

Goatman said he was in the fifth grade when the movie came out.

BB

CalifChris

Goatman said he was in the fifth grade when the movie came out.

Fifth grade is usually age 10 but not always. I was 16 for part of my senior year in high school 'cause I was one of the younger ones in class. A few other seniors in my class were 18. Sometimes you start school later (or earlier). Plus, looking back I couldn't remember with 100% accuracy if it was 7th grade I saw some movie or 5th grade, or whatever.

Goatman is a big boy and can defend himself but I was the one who mentioned age 10 (using the average age for that grade) so I feel I should explain how it doesn't have to be an exact fit as to age, etc. Lot's of variables.

Sooooo-- what's YOUR scariest movie, BB?

"DaddyBush disguises himself as a werewolf with fangs and attacks little orphaned children under a full moon?"
hahahaha -- couldn't resist!

Goatman said he was in the fifth grade when the movie came out.,

Maybe it was sixth grade, boob. Is it really that important to you? Fifth or sixth -- I don't really remember, so I looked up the movie. It came out in 68. So it must've been sixth grade. What's the big deal?

Why would I lie about that anyway? What's your point?

Just another phony soldier.

That part you are correct about however, boob. But I was a real sailor. United States Navy. No soldiers there, boob.

Scariest scene? The one in "Fahrenheit 911" of George W. Bush reading "My Pet Goat" after being informed a plane had smashed into the Twin Towers.

Goatman said he was in the fifth grade when the movie came out.

BBob isn't known for his great logic skills. I wouldn't waste the time arguing with him.

5th grade doesn't mean 10 years old even though that is the most common age for someone to be in that grade. All it takes is a late in the school year birthday and maybe being held back a year and you easily have a 12 year old 5th grader. There could be other reasons as well.

Anyway... some excellent choices for movies in this thread. While the movies I mentioned above scared the crap out of me. Psycho (the original) has always been a personal favorite. Hitchcock was a true master. I think most movies forget the Golden Rule of Hitchcock's era: The imagination can devise scarier things than you can show on film. Leave it to the imagination.

Sorry, Goatman, that I ever even mentioned age 10 in my post.

BB -- Goat didn't say he was 10, I did -- just using the average for that grade.

What movies did YOU see when you were exactly 10 -- not 11, not 9, but 10?
Do YOU remember? I sure don't. Just drop it.

Calfchris

My scariest movie was Tarantula with Leo G Carrol. At the time Leo G Carrol was on a TV program called Topper, which was about a guy (Carrol) who has some ghosts in his life. It was a light comedy.

In Tarantula, Carrol gets deformed by the same stuff that made the Tarantual huge, and when the Tarantula starts to attack his house, Carrol wakes up in bed and turns toward the camera and his face is all deformed with his eye on his cheek and his other eye up high on his head and his mouth all twisted, and his ears in different places. Quite a difference from his friendly TV personna.

Hi Moonmanfla

I'm headed out to do stuff here around the house. You and Goatman stir things up and I'll watch with my bag of popcorn and check in once in awhile to observe the fun.
Cooper should be walking in the DR Door any minute. *grin*

BB

Wow! So Tarantula scared the bejeesus out of you too? I, truly, have arachnophobia and that movie sure didn't help any. (And no, I don't remember EXACTLY what grade I was in when I saw that spider on steriods! -- pphhhfftt)

I don't know about BBob... but for me it was Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back.

The problem with trying to prove age by year, is that everyone has two different ages in any given year. I was 9 in 1980, but I was also 10. Which age I was during any given event in that year depends on the month you are talking about.

Moomanfl

You aren't known for your reading skills. If you could read at a sixth grade level, you would have seen that being ten had nothing to do with the math. It was the fifth grade that was the key. It still takes 12 grades to graduate, and Goatman hasn't bragged about being passed up a grade---yet.

So, If Goatman saw the movie in the fifth grade in 1968, it would take seven more grades to graduate. That would make it 1975. Goatman fails to mention when he graduated.

SW:TESB was hardly a scary movie per se... but Darth Vader was at his creepiest in that movie IMHO.

Boob -- you seem so obsessed with my age. Here goes, just for you:

I was born in October 1955. In Texas if you were born after September 1, you have to wait a year to start 1st grade. I started 1st grade in 1962. In fact, I've talked about being in 1st grade during the Cuban Missle crisis on another thread here on the DR. I'm sure you've read it since you seem to be taken about my age.

That would put me in 6th grade 1967 and 1968. 2001 came out in 1968. Sorry I freaked you out when I said 5th grade when I saw that movie. It was an honest mistake, but you can call it a lie and work it into one of your conspiracies. That's cool with me.

I graduated from HS in 1974. I joined the Navy in Jan 1975. If you were active duty before May 1975 you are a Viet Nam era Veteran.

I hope the timeline of my life agrees with you, boob.

If you could read at a sixth grade level, you would have seen that being ten had nothing to do with the math. It was the fifth grade that was the key.

So what BBob. When I was in 5th grade we had a couple 11 year olds AND a 12 year old in our class. The 11 year olds had late birthdays so couldn't start school until the year later. The 12 year old had the same problem but had also been held back a year.

Your criteria of 5th grade proves nothing.

If you understood more than 3rd grade math you would have understood the flaw in your logic.

In Texas if you were born after September 1, you have to wait a year to start 1st grade.

Exactly the flaw in BBob's logic I was trying to point out. He really can be arrogant for being such a simpleton sometimes.

Exactly the flaw in BBob's logic I was trying to point out. He really can be arrogant for being such a simpleton sometimes.

Posted by moomanfl

everything is a conspiracy to boob.

Moomanfl

The point of the fifth grade is that it is 7 years from graduating no matter how old you are in the fifth grade. Age has nothing to do with it. Read sloooooow. Maybe you will get it this time.

12 grades to graduate.

He was in fifth grade.

How many years left to graduate?

Depends... but since he said that 5th grade was a simple error and he was in 6th it is irrelevant.

Just to play along for a sec though... could he have, hypothetically, skipped a grade at some time after 5th grade? Knew people that happened too also.

Opps... there goes your proof again. Simpleton.

Maybe you will get it this time.

classic self-retorting retort.

buffalobob = obsession

Boob -- You really are one of a kind.

Still trying to figure out the math?

Boob -- You really are one of a kind.

Still trying to figure out the math?

Either that or got embarrassed because he was shown to be an intellectual fraud and high-tailed it for a while so people could "forget".

Me though... I think he is just struggling to get his shoes retied after counting on his piggies to see if the math adds up.

boob is still arguing with one of his other personalities over which one of them fucked up the math.

boob is still arguing with one of his other personalities over which one of them fucked up the math.

Nah, his brain isn't big enough to hold more than one personality.

boob is still arguing with one of his other personalities over which one of them fucked up the math.

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-14 10:42 PM |

They should have used BuffaloBob as the character in the multi-personality movie "Sybil" instead of Sally Fields.

Since you just mentioned your birthday is in October --

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GOATMAN!

Indeed: Hipy Papy Bthuthdth Thuthda Bthuthdy

Pooh looked on admiringly.
"I'm just saying 'A Happy Birthday,'" said Owl carelessly.
"It's a nice long one," said Pooh, very much impressed by it.
"Well, actually, of course, I'm saying 'A Very Happy Birthday with love from Pooh.' Naturally it takes a good deal fo pencil to say a long thing like that."
"Oh, I see," said Pooh.
~from A.A.Milne's Winnie the Pooh and Eeyore's Birthday

Moomanfl

Gosh you sure can't read very well can you--I already addressed your skipped grade scenario. Try to keep up.

My point was that if Goatman was in the fifth grade when he saw 2001 in 1968, then he couldn't be a Viet Nam Era Veteran. That is a simple fact unless he dropped out of school early to join. If he was in the sixth grade, then it is a different story. I can't help it if Goatman doesn't know what grade he was in when he saw the movie.

They should have used BuffaloBob as the character in the multi-personality movie "Sybil" instead of Sally Fields.

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-10-14 10:44 PM


Sally Field. She gets pissed when people can't fucking read.

My point was that if Goatman was in the fifth grade when he saw 2001 in 1968, then he couldn't be a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

Awwww... how cute. BBob is still trying. How precious.

You have to admire his spunk, if not his intellect.

I believe you point was already address by the man himself. But just keep saying, "I think I can! I think I can!"

Moomanfl

My point is made. Goatman was not in the fifth grade as he claimed. Anything else?

My point is made. Goatman was not in the fifth grade as he claimed. Anything else?

Well since you want to press the issue in spite of your obvious lack of legs with which to stand.... sure.

Gosh you sure can't read very well can you--I already addressed your skipped grade scenario. Try to keep up.

My point was that if Goatman was in the fifth grade when he saw 2001 in 1968, then he couldn't be a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

Hardly a point in your favor. You did NOTHING to address this point. Lets look at the logic (or in this case, total lack of it):

You say that you addressed the skipped grade issue and that it is still proof, yet you admit that being in 6th not 5th changes everything:

Notice my exact words.. in other words take your own advice and read sloooooowly:

could he have, hypothetically, skipped a grade at some time after 5th grade?

Since if, hypothetically speaking, he were in 5th grade but LATER skipped a grade he would be in the same graduating class as those that were in 6th grade at the time he was in 5th.

Since you graciously admitted:

If he was in the sixth grade, then it is a different story.

It is six of one, and a half-dozen of the other.

I guess I was wrong... you didn't use your piggies for the math. You should have since it is obvious that math is NOT your forte.

I guess I was wrong

Posted by moomanfl at 2007-10-14 11:08 PM | Reply

No guess about it. You were definitely wrong. As usual.

Facts are if he was in the fifth grade he would have graduated too late to be a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

Facts are if he was in the sixth grade he could have graduated in time to be a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

Goatman said he was in the fifth grade.

Goatman was mistaken.

BUFFALOBOB

My point was that if Goatman was in the fifth grade when he saw 2001 in 1968, then he couldn't be a Viet Nam Era Veteran. That is a simple fact unless he dropped out of school early to join,

I was walking thru and looked at this thread. DROP IT, BB. Goat said he may have been off a grade when he saw the movie and so what! Do YOU remember when you saw every single movie as a kid? I don't and I doubt you do either.

But why I'm jumping in and the one thing that really makes me angry with someone is when they go after a man's military service. It was done to John Kerry and I thought that was rotten and it's sleezy to go after anybody who served our country in uniform -- Goatman or anyone else -- unless you have proof otherwise and you don't. You just want to needle Goatman and that's fine -- blast away -- but don't do it by attacking his military service.

I've seen various posters on here get attacked or their credibility questioned about their time in the military. They served honorably (as far as we know) and that should be the end of it. It sickened me when the Republicans wore those phony Purple Hearts at their convention to mock John Kerry's medals and unless you have solid PROOF that Goat wasn't a Viet Nam era vet you have no right to question him about his service to this country either. Plus, who cares when he served. I believe him but what does it matter when a man puts on a uniform -- he went into the military and served our country and that's what counts.

Some things should be off limits in politics and even on here and casting doubt on a man's service to his country is one of them. I've seen it done before and it's not right.

Just my opinion and two cents worth.

-- later

Goatman was mistaken.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-14 11:13 PM | R

Then tattoo that slogan on your ass along with the date if that's what it takes to shut you up.

By the way, BuffaloBob -- YOU spelled "misstaken" wrong

Facts are if he was in the fifth grade he would have graduated too late to be a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

Again BBob fails to read and think critically... Not if he skipped, for example, 6th grade and went to 7th. That would make his graduating time the exact same as your 6th grader.

Really BBob... trying counting on your toes. I know it is embarrassing but you have proven you can't do math any other way.

The 13 Most Terrifying Movie Scenes Ever

Here's a few that didn't make the list:

The Deerhunter: The russian roulette scene. And even more scary, the part where the soldiers had to watch the helicopters leave them them behind in the water.

Trilogy of Terror: the evil possessed african hunter doll stalking Karen Black is still one of the scariest scenes ever.

Frankenstein: The original. When the Monster throws the little girl in the lake to watch her float.

NightHawks: Rutger hauer as "Wulfgar" was one of the most terrifying on-screen villains ever created and his scenes of cold blooded murder are scary.

Texas Chain saw massacre: The meat hook scene is terrifying no matter how cheesy much of the rest of the movie is.

Children Shouldn't Play with dead Things: Far creepier and more disturbing then "night of the living dead" the scene where the guy trying to escape gets caught by the living corpses is pretty horrible, as is the scene where the leader of the troupe decides to sacrigice one of his friends in order to try and save himself.

Requiem for a Dream: Plenty of terrifying scenes in this one -- from Ellen Burstyn's descent into drug psychosis, to jared leto and Marlon Wayons ending up in a southern jail.

Planet of the Apes: the Statue of Liberty buried in the sand when Charlton heston realizes that he wasn't on another planet, but on an earth that had suffered nuclear anhilation is extremely terrifying.

Faces of Death 3: A car thief loses his life to two attack dogs who were protecting the used car lot he was trying to rob. What makes the entire scene terrifying is that the death is caught on a closed circuit B&W camera without any sound that is sweeping slowly back and forth -- it catches the thief jump over the fence into the lot -- and then sweeps away, by the time the camera sweeps back we see the dogs attack, then it sweeps away, then is sweeps back and the thief is in the life and death struggle, the camera sweeps away again, then back to the fight, over and over again, until finally we see that the thief has lost and is laying on the ground dead. Terrifying.

Moomanfl

I only go by what Goatman says---not your hypotheticals, and I covered Goatman coming up with that scenario already. Now pay attention dumbass, you are boring me.





Moomanfl

It was the fifth grade that was the key. It still takes 12 grades to graduate, and Goatman hasn't bragged about being passed up a grade---yet.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-14 10:15 PM | Reply

BBobs whole argument is that a person in 5th grade in 1968 couldn't have graduated in time to be a Vietnam Era Veteran... but a person that was in 6th grade in 1968 could have. I counter with a skipped grade theory... which BBob refuses to acknowledge. Here is my proof:

Year..........My Scenario..............BBob's Scenario
------------------------------
------------------------
1962............---
.........................K....
.....
1963.............K............
..............1st.......
1964.............1st..........
..............2nd.......
1965.............2nd..........
..............3rd.......
1966.............3rd..........
..............4th.......
1967.............4th..........
..............5th.......
1968.............5th..........
..............6th.......
1969.............6th..........
..............7th.......
1970.............8th(skipped 7th).......8th.......
1971.............9th..........
..............9th.......
1972............10th..........
.............10th.......

See where this is going?

1973............11th..........
.............11th.......
1974............12th..........
.............12th.......

Once again BBob... you are proven with out a doubt... WRONG. A person in 5th grade in 1968 that skipped a grade later, would graduate at the same time as a person in 6th grade in 1968.

Take some remedial math courses... please.

Formatting didn't work well in posting... but I think the point is clear.

It still takes 12 grades to graduate

Not if you skip a grade... idiot. Are you going to try telling me that no one has ever skipped a grade?

bb

I spelled "mistaken" correctly.

dictionary.reference.com

It appears YOU are mistaken also.

I stand corrected by you on my error.
I don't know why but I was thinking of the word "misspell" (with the double "ss") and confused that with your totally unrelated word "mistaken" for some reason. My brain isn't functioning. On THAT point -- the misspelling, I was wrong.

Your statement --

It was already dropped, if he was in the sixth grade. Also, I would never attack someone for their military service---unless they were lying about said service.

Goat said he was in the 6th grade, not the 5th -- a simple mistake. How many times do you need to hear it? You said it was already dropped but you kept bringing it up for some reason and I figured it was to question the dates of his military service -- hence the reason for my long post.

ALSO, it's MY admitted mistake that I misspelled "mistake" (and not only that but even highlighted my error in bold print!) so I now hold the "boob" award for tonight. Satisfied?

Are you going to try telling me that no one has ever skipped a grade?

Posted by moomanfl at 2007-10-14 11:

Probably no one BB has ever hung out with.

17 & a vietname Vet ~ wow...Tom Cruise will have do the movie!

"How I Skipped a Grade To Become 'A Vet' @ 17"!:>)

7 & a vietname Vet ~ wow...Tom Cruise will have do the movie!

Again, you are picking on the fallacy that grade determines age when it has already been shown that you can be older than the standard for your grade easily.

Even BBob gave up the age argument, Bani. Don't be stupider than he is being.

Moomanfl

Try reading posts other than your own. I suggest the one at 11:32.

Bani

Goatman doesn't claim to be a Viet Nam Vet. He claimed to be a Viet Nam Era Veteran which simply means he was in the military during the Viet Nam era.

Try reading posts other than your own. I suggest the one at 11:32.

Which part of that post? The part where you still adhere to the idea that you HAVE to go through all 12 grades to graduate... or the part where you try to weasel out of your math flaw by stating you don't deal with hypotheticals... even though you tried to use 5th grade in 1968 as PROOF that he was lying?

11:32 does nothing for your case... it just makes you look worse.

That was terrifying for him then:>)

ps he's fine now...wheelchair prison did the trick!

I can imagine it was.

I am glad to hear he is doing better now. :-)

BANI

Goatman wrote:

That would put me in 6th grade 1967 and 1968. 2001 came out in 1968. Sorry I freaked you out when I said 5th grade when I saw that movie. It was an honest mistake, but you can call it a lie and work it into one of your conspiracies. That's cool with me.

It has nothing to do with skipping a grade. He merely said 5th instead of 6th grade. Is your memory razor-sharp back to the figth and sixth grades? Mine sure isn't.

It was an honest mistake

Goatman, don't you know by now that conservatives and Republicans are not allowed to make "honest mistakes" on this site? And you certainly can't expect that any correction of this mistake will be accepted or even tolerated by the likes of Bob and others here.

For evermore you will be branded a liar about your entire military service because you forgot that you were in 6th grade (not 5th) when you saw "2001: A Space Odyssey".

LOL

But at least you have the satisfaction of knowing that you don't think in the same hateful, close-minded and intolerant way that Bob does. So at least that's something.

This thread is too stupid to even bother reading anymore.

I am glad to hear he is doing better now. :-)

Posted by moomanfl

So was he! One day I came home & he was "riding" my bike. One of the happiest days of my life!!!

Prisontime was over for the doctor said his hips were now normal & he could walk again on them w/o support:>)

This thread is too stupid to even bother reading anymore.

CC, I agree. But it did make me want to rent "nighthawks" and "Children Shouldn't Play with dead Things" to see them again.

Moomanfl

11:32 shows that I already agreed that if he skipped a grade then he could have been in the fifth grade in 1968---the point you've been hapring on for the last several points. What a dumbass you are.

Bowa,

BBob has already admitted that Goatman's correction makes the difference, and he credits Goatman for the correction.

The argument now is in BBob's prior assertion that if Goatman HAD been in 5th grade in 1968 he couldn't have been a Vietnam Era Veteran... I have shown BBob to be wrong on this point, he just won't admit it. No surprise there though.

11:32 shows that I already agreed that if he skipped a grade then he could have been in the fifth grade in 1968

You mean the part where you said this?

It was the fifth grade that was the key. It still takes 12 grades to graduate

Which is patently false, as I showed.

You try to qualify it with this:

and Goatman hasn't bragged about being passed up a grade---yet.

However that doesn't erase the fact that he didn't HAVE to say that... you just automatically ASSUMED that if he was in 5th grade then he was lying. You ASSUMED you had all the facts.

Assume made an ass out of you.

Moomanfl

Just an ass out of you dummy. By saying that if he had passed up a grade he would have been able to be a Viet Nam Era Vet---it means that if he had passed up a grade he could have been a Viet Nam Era Vet---just as you have been saying all along. However




I SAID IT FIRST DUMBASS.

BBob has already admitted that Goatman's correction makes the difference, and he credits Goatman for the correction.

I just saw a pig fly past my window.

I SAID IT FIRST DUMBASS.

Again BBob:

However that doesn't erase the fact that he didn't HAVE to say that... you just automatically ASSUMED that if he was in 5th grade then he was lying. You ASSUMED you had all the facts.

Assume made an ass out of you.

Bani, are you saying that the statement I made in April is hateful, intolerant and close-minded?

How so?

Seems that it is even more spot on then ever. Because as we have seen with the recent successes of the surge, democracy in the form of federalism in the provinces has sprouted as the "islamo-fascists" of al-qaeda and other extremist insurgents have been kicked out of local areas with the help of US forces and Sunni militias.

I didn't assume anything dumbass---if I assumed it---I wouldn't have said anything about him passing a grade, and again.

I SAID IT FIRST DUMBASS.

www.houseochicks.com

Bani, thanks for the link. Seems like something Obama should be putting in the budget to give to kindergarteners

I didn't assume anything dumbass---if I assumed it---I wouldn't have said anything about him passing a grade, and again.

Sure you did:

and Goatman hasn't bragged about being passed up a grade---yet.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-14 10:15 PM

You assumed that because he hadn't mentioned skipping a grade, or that he had made a mistake in his grade, that he must be lying. Never mind the fact that he didn't have to justify himself to you at all about his statement of grade. He knows his life better than you do.

You made an ass out of yourself.

Bowa-
How many months has it been since the main enemy in Iraq has been "al Qaeda"?

Maybe three months in a five year war?

You do seem to buy it without inspection, just as you did the invasion of Iraq, and just as you will any larger war you won't actually be personally fighting.

If we really need to recap...

First you said the age was impossible for his claim even though he never mentioned age... you just assumed it (falsely). You were proven wrong.

Then you switch tactic and falsely claim that the grade was impossible. You admit now that you were wrong.

To sum up... you were just flat out wrong to suggest he might be lying on the info that you had.

You assumed age... you made an ass out of yourself.
You assumed grade... you made an ass out of yourself.
You assumed he was lying... you made an ass out of yourself.

You are on a role... don't stop now. You have all night to make more of an ass out of yourself on this.

You are on a role... don't stop now. You have all night to make more of an ass out of yourself on this.

Posted by moomanfl

Something you've never ever, ever done here in DR?:>)

Moomanfl

Again, I never assumed anything. I always said IF Goatman was in the fifth grade, and I gave TWO outs for him to be in the fifth grade and still be a Viet Nam Era Vet--1.--Skip a grade---2. Drop out early. Other than that my point is that Goatman was NOT in the fifth grade in 1968 if he was a Viet Nam Era Vet, not that he WAS.

The assumption was yours.

Maybe three months in a five year war?

Al-quada has been there most of that time. After all, they were behind the bombing of the golden mosque which was very succesful in fomenting sectarian strife which only in the past few months has levelled off a bit.

But you can believe all the liberal myths you want Cooper, for al the anti-war rhetoric, even the leading democratic candidates no the truth about Iraq -- which is why none of them advocate a precipitious withdrawl that will hand a huge victory to al-quada and Iran. In fact, Hillary, Obama, and Edwards have all refused to promise that they would withdraw the troops even by the end of their first adminsitration. So even they know how important it is to stay and support Iraq in the creation of their democracy -- even if you don't.

Not by assuming that someone lied about the status of their service, Bani. That is a serious issue to me.

I also don't claim that someone is necessarily wrong about their life. Unless of course it is along the lines of Manypaths that claimed to have a "MA" in a science field. LOL

So even they know how important it is to stay and support Iraq in the creation of their democracy -- even if you don't.

Posted by Bowa

yep, Greenspan said keeping that oil is important:>)

Again, I never assumed anything.

How about this?

I think he just lied about being a "Viet Nam Era Veteran"

Just another phony soldier.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-14 09:34 PM

Now you are an ass AND a liar.

Keep going, BBob. Care to apologize formally to Goatman for this assertion?

Al-quada has been there most of that time. After all, they were behind the bombing of the golden mosque...

Really? And your source is....?

Bowa-
re: ...which is why none of them advocate a precipitious withdrawl that will hand a huge victory to al-quada and Iran.

Al Qaeda is Sunni, and Iran is Shia. Perhaps with more efforts from the bush team and your cheerleading section, we may unite the two.

Bowa-
You bought the curious notion that Saddam was linked with al Qaeda (an enemy of Saddam's Iraq), and you'll buy into any notion that is served to you as long as it is draped in the flag.

Moomanfl

I didn't assume anyone lied about their service. Simple math tells you that if they were in the fifth grade in 1968 they couldn't be Viet Nam Era Veteran unless--1. They skip a grade. or 2. They drop out early to join. That's what I said and I still say that. So Goatman said he was in the fifth grade in 1968. That means.

1. Goatman was not in the fifth grade in 1968 if he was a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

2. Goatman skipped a grade if he was in the fifth grade in 1968 to become a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

0r

3. Goatman dropped out early if he was in the fifth grade in 1968 to become a Viet Nam Era Veteran.

I still stand behind those statements.

Goatman has said he was mistaken about being in the fifth grade in 1968 and has stated he was in the sixth grade. Fair enough. Why you can't get over it is a mystery.

I didn't assume anyone lied about their service.

LIAR:

I think he just lied about being a "Viet Nam Era Veteran"

Just another phony soldier.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-14 09:34 PM

Moomanfl


Again, I never assumed anything.

How about this?

I think he just lied about being a "Viet Nam Era Veteran"

Just another phony soldier.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-14 09:34 PM

Now you are an ass AND a liar.

Keep going, BBob. Care to apologize formally to Goatman for this assertion?

Posted by moomanfl at 2007-10-15 12:33


Nope---I still think he's lying. I think he told the truth about being in the fifth grade in 1968. That was a vivid memory---hard to shake. But that is my opinion only. Just like I think you are a turd.

You bought the curious notion that Saddam was linked with al Qaeda

he was. For over a decade. though there was no operational relationship with Bin-Laden over the 9/11 attacks that could ever be proved.

As we have seen throughout the course of History, people who might be enemies in some areas often align themselves against bigger shared enemies. And al-quada, as a sunni terrorist organization which shared a hatred of Israel and the US with both Iran and iraq, allied themselves with the Saddam, and his ruling Sunni Baath party, as well as Shia Iran when it came to actions agaisnt the West.

Let me put in another way BBob,

You DIDN'T say"

"I think he COULD BE lying about..."

Instead you said:

"I think he IS lying about..."

The first is a statement of possibility but makes no judgment about the reality.

The second ASSUMES what the reality is and states it as your opinion of reality.

This just goes to show that you are a liar, and that when the words "I think" escape your lips, they turn into an oxymoron.

Nope---I still think he's lying.

Ahhhh... ok. Then these statements were a lie once again:

Again, I never assumed anything.

I didn't assume anyone lied about their service.

You assume he does lie about his service. You can't prove that he did lie. As a matter of fact you admitted that he could be telling the truth.

Therefore your statement that you think he is lying is............



wait for it.....



AN ASSUMPTION.

And you are a liar to boot. Glad we cleared that up. Carry on.

Moomanfl

I still think he's lying dumbass.

You can believe Goatman when he says he was in the sixth grade.

You can believe Goatman when he says he was in the fifth grade.

Take your pick. There is no proof either way. It is only opinion.

he was. For over a decade. though there was no operational relationship with Bin-Laden over the 9/11 attacks that could ever be proved.

There was no "operational relationship" period.

I must admit that when I run across ignorant conspiracy freaks such as you and Bani, who have no regard for the facts, it takes my breath away.

I have more evidence that Sasquatch was an extraterrestrial plant by malevolent aliens (could never be proved!), and could contrive a much more convincing argument that placed the US and the USSR as allies during the Cold War.

I still think he's lying dumbass.

You can THINK he is lying... but you have just been PROVEN a liar by your own words.... dumbass.

Carry on.

"...Bani..."

Boyd

naughty, naughty...:>)

Bowa-
re: And al-quada, as a sunni terrorist organization which shared a hatred of Israel and the US with both Iran and iraq, allied themselves with the Saddam, and his ruling Sunni Baath party, as well as Shia Iran when it came to actions agaisnt the West.

Why is al Qaeda in Iraq, five years into this war, only now our primary enemy? It seems that only yesterday we were fighting Sunni insurgents and "Baathist dead-enders". (Yes, I do mean to imply that you would fit quite well into an Orwellian novel as the poster child for an easily duped hate and fear-filled populace who will believe literally anything, irregardless of the inconvenient past, or the facts)

Cooper, wouldn't your insane lefty talking points be more well received on daily kos? What are you doing here?

I mean really. The connection between Saddam and al-quada stretched back at least a decade. And there is a huge amount of proof of that.

It's always been hilarious to me that the same Liberals who detest their own country for engaging in both covert and overt foreign policy with nations who are our "enemies" on many levels, believe that every other nation operates in some pure vaccuum and never engages in similar operations. Iran, Saddam's Iraq, Syria, Al-Quada, the PLO, Hamas, etc. all hated and hate Israel and the US far more then they hate each other -- so they had ample opportunity, and motive for working with each other to undermine the US, israel, it's allies and interests trhoughout the world. Which history shows to be true.

To believe otherwise, is just delusional.

Wait-
Bani and Bowa-

How 'bout if Saddam's WMD were moved through Syria by the CIA and Mossad- with the complicity of the Bush administration, Saddam and al Qaeda- and planted in the towers in early 2001!

Why is al Qaeda in Iraq, five years into this war, only now our primary enemy?

That's not true at all. Did you just wake up. Al-quada began flowing into Iraq almost from the moment we deposed Saddam. they know that a democratic iraq would be an anchor that could lead to the democratization of the entire region -- which is why they are so intent on handing us a defeat there and bringing an oppressive rule back to Iraq.

What I still don't understand, Is why so many democrats and liberals want us to abandon an ally that is seeking freedom, and instead are siding with terrorists and Jihadists who seek to bring islamic totalinarianism to Iraq.

Bowa-
re: The connection between Saddam and al-quada stretched back at least a decade. And there is a huge amount of proof of that.

You don't seem to be posting any of that "proof".

But I'd love to see it.

Here's the deal: I'm going to bed. Please post your "proof", and I'll check it out at my leisure (as long as it doesn't interfere with Bani's "prison planet" links)

LOL.

Bowa-
re: Al-quada began flowing into Iraq almost from the moment we deposed Saddam.

Although that's funny in an unintentionally ironic way, it's really not enough to keep me from my pillow.

Post your "proof" of Saddam's Iraq and its links with al Qaeda, and I'll check them out after I visit Bani's links.

'night.

BuffaloBob

Nope---I still think he's lying. I think he told the truth about being in the fifth grade in 1968. That was a vivid memory---hard to shake. But that is my opinion only. Just like I think you are a turd.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-15 12:45 AM | Reply

I can't believe you're still on this. Goatman never mentioned the year 1968. I did. I was looking for the full name of the computer HAL to make a joke ('cause I knew it was a long complicated name) and the year of the movie was made was mentioned too and I threw that in my post. Goatman never said the year he saw it was 1968 nor did he ever say his age was 10 at the time he saw it. You continued to link all this stuff together on your assumptions only. Do you do this with everything in your life?????

"Do you do this with everything in your life?????"

Posted by CalifChris

FF

more from Stalag 17

Oberst Von Scherbach: All right then, gentlemen, we are all friends again. And with Christmas coming on I have a special treat for you. I'll have you all deloused for the holidays and I'll have a little Christmas tree for every barrack. You will like that.

Do you do this with everything in your life?????

Most likely. He does it on everything else.

He is a pretty straight-forward simpleton.... and a liar by his own words.

"He is a pretty straight-forward simpleton.... "

Posted by moomanfl

Self retorting again? Let's talk about abortion & your born again faith & why Scientologists should never be talked to in your "faith":>)

but if you recall you said some rather inflamitory things about the "cult"

Yes I did, from direct experience with some members, and through general study of what they believe and how they work. So what?

how your Christian branch (cult?) said you shouldn't interact with them at all if possible.

No, I don't recall. Why don't you show me where I said that.

You still have yet to explain what this has to do with anything said here today, or how I was self-retorting.

No, I don't recall. Why don't you show me where I said that.

You still have yet to explain what this has to do with anything said here today, or how I was self-retorting.

Posted by moomanfl

not playing Hans tonite...gloating over ones supposed victory is what in your bible?:>)

not playing Hans tonite

Oh... you sometimes play Hans? How interesting. Here I thought you were two separate people. LOL

gloating over ones supposed victory is what in your bible?:>)

Nope. But the Bible says "suffer the little children not".... it says nothing about trolls.

Care to continue about how any of this is relevant to anything being discussed on this thread?

For that matter, care to back up any of the claims you have made of things I have supposedly said?

Thought not. You just want to troll because I spanked BBob and proved him for a liar.

Tell you what... I will give you the whole night to try to prove that I was self-retorting, that I said my faith says I shouldn't talk to Scientologist, and that my faith is inconsistent with my stand on abortion. Have at it. I will check back tomorrow to grade your efforts.

Have at it. I will check back tomorrow to grade your efforts.

Well at least later today. That "After midnight" thing gets me every time. LOL

Tell you what... I will give you the whole night to try to prove that I was self-retorting, that I said my faith says I shouldn't talk to Scientologist, and that my faith is inconsistent with my stand on abortion. Have at it. I will check back tomorrow to grade your efforts.

Posted by moomanfl

Tell you what ~ I let you "gloat" over your another "supposed victory":>)

Tell you what ~ I let you "gloat" over your another "supposed victory":>)

Translation: "I was just lying... so I will back out now with what I hope is a snappy comeback in hopes that nobody will notice what a mouthbreathing troll I am."

Way to go there, Bani.

"Way to go there, Bani."

Our New Supreme Gloater


Thxs:>)

Our New Supreme Gloater

I guess that makes you... well... one of several lying trolls... but hardly "supreme" anything.

Most trolls would have at least had a quote for me. Grossly distorted and taken out of context... but at least a quote.

Pathetic.

Carry on.

I also like the end of the original Halloween when the camera flashes all around the house, yard, etc.,

Posted by anton at 2007-10-14 05:47 PM | Reply

The scene that got me was, well, .....

1. When the kid looks out the window and sees the sillouette of the killer carrying a body and screams that he can see the boogeyman.

2. When the door creaks open and there's a dead girl on the bed, with a headstone.

Yeeeeeeeeee!

It doesn't take very long for the majority of commenter's on this site to loose the thread does it. Children with minds like mush!

Buffy Boob: I went to sleep last night and woke up to see you usual drivel, lies, assumptions and just general bullshit. I'll just post one more on this thread. You've more than proven what an idiot you are so I don't need to point it out. But I will clarify a couple of things in this last thread:

I think he just lied about being a "Viet Nam Era Veteran"

If that's what you want to think -- fine. I have never lied in this forum. If you want to turn an honest mistake about a movie I saw 40 years ago into this huge "lie" about my veteran status, go for it. I don't care. I find it amusing, however, that you pick what you want to believe. You believe my mistake about what year I saw a movie, yet you don't believe my veteran status. Why did you choose to believe the former, but not the latter? I know your obsession with my age has had you reading other posts of mine which confirm how old I am (e.g. being in 1st grade during the Cuban Missle Crisis) but you choose to stick with the fifth grade thing. Why? Because it fits your agenda and everything else I've ever said doesn't. But you've got this straw to clutch onto, so you do.

Another thing: I could have shut this whole thing down before you started your BS by telling a lie, but I don't do that. Consider: It would have indeed been possible to graduate HS in 1975 and be a Viet Nam veteran. The military has the delayed entry program. Your veteran status, retirement pay, etc. is based on this. I could have enlisted in April 1975, but not have reported for active duty until April 1976 and still be a VN era veteran. But you are such an idiot, you didn't figure that out. In fact, that you didn't know that makes me question whether you were ever in the service as you say.

Take your pick. There is no proof either way. It is only opinion.

There is indeed proof. My word. Unlike you, I don't buy into wacko conspiracy theories, quote mind controlled bimbos as fact, believe prisonplanet.com, etc. I've never lied in this forum. There is my proof. It is not opinion, you idiot.

I'll remain open to your apology for implying that I lied about my veteran status. I know I won't get it, but hey, it's worth a try!

You really do need to get a real life, loser.

John Carpenter's The Thing scared the hell out of me when I was a kid. Watched it on HBO over at a friends place.

The concept still is a bit scary, but I bet the FX probably look dopey now. I haven't seen teh movie since the early '80s.

I admit to being a wimp and getting really shaken by movie scenes like the ones listed here. "It" scared the bejeebus out of me. The book affected me so deeply I couldn't even finish it. Recently, I was driving home late at night and there was a talk show where people were reading from books and someone actually read the "Down here we all float" section from It and I was mesmerized and frightened all over again. When I got home, I ran from my car to the house door, couldn't get the key in fast enough... ridiculous.

Anyway, What I actually wanted to say is that a friend of ine is a horror film collector and those Italian movies are by far the creepiest, scariest of all.

Regarding the ones on the list, It and The Shining are the two that just make me psycho. But Jaws? Jurrassic Park? Anything with fake monsters is just too phony to be scary.

And they mention The Wizard of Oz. Yowza, the scene of the bitchy neighbor (The Folgers Woman) turning into the Witch in the storm... THAT was heavy stuff for it's time! brrr...

The scariest movie I have seen is "Signs" that part when the kids see an alien walking past some bushes made me jump.

And it also scared me when the family was hiding in the basement and the aliens were running around outside trying to get in.

It still creeps me out when I watch it.

Wizard of Oz did have some scary parts, but the scariest was when Dorothy was watching the hour glass run out and the tinman was trying to chop down the door to save her in time. The flying monkeys were creepy, too.

John Carpenter's The Thing scared the hell out of me when I was a kid. Watched it on HBO over at a friends place.

I agree with you there. I found this movie and Alien to be extremely scary when watching them, but only when watching them. The Exorcist lingered in my mind long after the movie was over. And like others here, when I was a kid there was nothing more terrifying than the Wicked Witch from the Wizard of Oz--almost any scene will do. I remember in particular when her face suddenly appears in the large crystal ball pushing out the distraught image of Aunt Em.

What bothers me today, is that parents will let their young children six-ten watch movies like Jaws or Halloween. I have heard them say that they are not worried; it doesn't seem to bother their kids. That it doesn't bother them is what worries me the most.

Cheers

That it doesn't bother them is what worries me the most.

That is a point that can't be stressed enough. Thanks, Grendel

Calfchris

I can't believe you're still on this. Goatman never mentioned the year 1968. I did. I was looking for the full name of the computer HAL to make a joke ('cause I knew it was a long complicated name) and the year of the movie was made was mentioned too and I threw that in my post. Goatman never said the year he saw it was 1968 nor did he ever say his age was 10 at the time he saw it. You continued to link all this stuff together on your assumptions only. Do you do this with everything in your life?????

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-10-15 01:28 AM | Reply

I'm not still on about this. YOU keep bringing it up.

Goatman didn't have to say the year 1968. The movie CAME OUT in 1968. Goatman couldn't have seen it in 1967, because the movie wasn't out yet. If Goatman had seen it in 1969, then being in the
sixth grade in 1969 would still have made him too young to be a Viet Nam Era Veteran. You seem to forget the point of this is not whether he was ten in 1968---he could have been 5 or fifty--his age wasn't a factor. It is what grade he was in--not his age. It still takes 12 years to graduate.If Goatman said he saw the movie in 1975, he couldn't have been a Viet Nam Era Veteran. The only way for Goatman to have seen the movie in the fifth grade was if he was mistaken about being a Viet Nam Era Veteran, OR he was mistaken about being in the fifth grade. Goatman has stated that he was in the sixth grade, and that makes it possible. But he couldn't have been in the sixth grade in 1969 and still been a Viet Nam Era Veteran. Age has nothing to do with it. It is what year he was in the fifth grade and what year did he graduate. Try to focus on what the point is. Could Goatman have been a Viet Nam Era Veteran with the information he has stated? That's the point. Now try to get over it. It's been a dead horse for a long time now. Quit bringing it up.

Regarding the ones on the list, It and The Shining are the two that just make me psycho. But Jaws? Jurrassic Park? Anything with fake monsters is just too phony to be scary.

Posted by bellaspapa at 2007-10-15 07:52 AM | Reply

I didn't think much of the list, either. Frankly, if the Exorcist is omitted and Jurassic Park is included, it's fatally flawed in my opinion. I disagree with you about Jaws, however. Granted, it looks a little dated now (as do The Exorcist, Halloween, The Shining, etc.), but it still holds up well and still keeps me on the edge of my seat.

The scene that got me was, well, .....

1. When the kid looks out the window and sees the sillouette of the killer carrying a body and screams that he can see the boogeyman.

2. When the door creaks open and there's a dead girl on the bed, with a headstone.

Yeeeeeeeeee!

Posted by vernon at 2007-10-15 05:58 AM | Reply

Yeah, that is very creepy. I still think that is a great movie. I haven't seen the Rob Zombie version yet. I hope he didn't ruin it.

He did.

Christ almighty Bob, Goatman did a little research and realized he saw 2001 in the 6th grade, not the 5th.

He then chronicled everything in regards to his life's timeline.


He made an error in recollection (saw 2001 in 6th grade when he said he saw it in the 5th grade).


An error in memory is not the same thing as 'lying', Bob.

POLTERGESIT pt 1

I was ten years old and some friends bought tickets to some kids stuff and snuck into Poltergesit.

I can still remember watching that guy peel his own face off....holy shit, that was terrifying to me at that age.

He did.

Posted by LeeAtwater at 2007-10-15 11:45 AM | Reply

Damn.

Figures.

Tootsie - discovering the woman of your dreams was really a man at the end. Terrifying.

The best whore flick of all times was Debbie does Dallas

The 13 Most Terrifying Movie Scenes Ever

Here's a few that didn't make the list:

The Deerhunter: The russian roulette scene. And even more scary, the part where the soldiers had to watch the helicopters leave them them behind in the water.

Trilogy of Terror: the evil possessed african hunter doll stalking Karen Black is still one of the scariest scenes ever.

Frankenstein: The original. When the Monster throws the little girl in the lake to watch her float.

NightHawks: Rutger hauer as "Wulfgar" was one of the most terrifying on-screen villains ever created and his scenes of cold blooded murder are scary.

Texas Chain saw massacre: The meat hook scene is terrifying no matter how cheesy much of the rest of the movie is.

Children Shouldn't Play with dead Things: Far creepier and more disturbing then "night of the living dead" the scene where the guy trying to escape gets caught by the living corpses is pretty horrible, as is the scene where the leader of the troupe decides to sacrigice one of his friends in order to try and save himself.

Requiem for a Dream: Plenty of terrifying scenes in this one -- from Ellen Burstyn's descent into drug psychosis, to jared leto and Marlon Wayons ending up in a southern jail.

Planet of the Apes: the Statue of Liberty buried in the sand when Charlton heston realizes that he wasn't on another planet, but on an earth that had suffered nuclear anhilation is extremely terrifying.

Faces of Death 3: A car thief loses his life to two attack dogs who were protecting the used car lot he was trying to rob. What makes the entire scene terrifying is that the death is caught on a closed circuit B&W camera without any sound that is sweeping slowly back and forth -- it catches the thief jump over the fence into the lot -- and then sweeps away, by the time the camera sweeps back we see the dogs attack, then it sweeps away, then is sweeps back and the thief is in the life and death struggle, the camera sweeps away again, then back to the fight, over and over again, until finally we see that the thief has lost and is laying on the ground dead. Terrifying.

More Stalag 17 quotes or is it "The Price is Right"?

------------------------------
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Price: Are you questioning me?
Sefton: Getting acquainted. I'd like to make one friend in this barracks.
Price: Well, don't bother, Sefton. I don't like you, I never did, and I never will.
Sefton: A lot of people say that, and the first thing you know it, they get married, and live happily ever after.

another:

Night of the Hunter: Robert Mitchum as the preacher with the swtichblade who is chasing the children whose mother he's already murdered. The whole movie is creepy, surreal and terrifying.

Veteran of Vietnam Era circa 1976

LOL -- Not the statement, but that there is actually another person as idiotic as Buffy Boob.

Christ almighty Bob, Goatman did a little research and realized he saw 2001 in the 6th grade, not the 5th.

He then chronicled everything in regards to his life's timeline.


He made an error in recollection (saw 2001 in 6th grade when he said he saw it in the 5th grade).


An error in memory is not the same thing as 'lying', Bob.

Posted by JeffJ at 2007-10-15 11:51 AM | Reply


I never said he was lying. I said I think he is lying. I said IF he was in the fifth grade in 1968 when the movie came out, he couldn't have been a Viet Nam Era Veteran unless he dropped out early or skipped a grade.

The choices are simple.

Either he made a mistake or he didn't.

Either he lied or he didn't.

Whether he made a mistake or whether he lied is a matter of opinion.

Your opinion is no more valid than mine.

You Believe Goatman when he says he was in the sixth grade.

I believe Goatman when he says he was in the fifth grade.

Fair enough, Bob.



Given everything he chronicled regarding his life, a simple mistake in memory seems FAR more plausible to me than what you believe.

Nevertheless, I have no problem with what you just said - it makes perfect sense.

Given everything he chronicled regarding his life, a simple mistake in memory seems FAR more plausible to me than what you believe.

Nevertheless, I have no problem with what you just said - it makes perfect sense.

Posted by JeffJ


FF


more Stalag 17:>)

Sefton: There are two people in this barracks who know I didn't do it. Me and the guy that did do it.

Jeff J

"Given everything he chronicled regarding his life, a simple mistake in memory seems FAR more plausible to me than what you believe."

It all depends on your point of view. To me it seems very easy to simply add a year to every age and date rather than be caught in a lie. He told of a frightening experience in his life, and associated an age with it. He was almost thirteen years old. Again, opinion rules.

I could chronicle my age to show I was a year or two older very easily--couldn't you?

It all depends on your point of view. To me it seems very easy to simply add a year to every age and date rather than be caught in a lie.

That makes sense.

However, it is also very easy to have a slight error in recollection, which to me seems more plausible when we take into account his Cuban Missile Crisis comment, which came before the 2001 comment.


Again, opinion rules.


Yes, it does.



If you really are curious, you could challenge the Goat to allow 3rd party intervention. Apparently the Goat lives in Texas and he recently met Pinche Mao for beers. You could challenge him to show his driver's liscence to Mao, if the 2 of them are planning on getting drunk in the near future. Of course, this would require you to trust that Mao would be truthful.

Of course, this would require you to trust that Mao would be truthful.

Bob trusts only mind controlled sex slaves and prisonplanet.

But yes, hopefully I'll be meeting Pinche again at Lupitas for a beer.

The funniest, maybe saddest, certainly weirdest thing about Buffy Boob's obsession with my military service is that it was several months ago that I mentioned that I was a Viet Nam era veteran. I had forgotten I had said it in fact until yesterday.

Everyone who reads my posts knows that I am not a secretive person and probably talk more about my personal life than anyone else here. I have nothing to hide. I never lie to anyone.

So this tells me that BB has been scrutinizing my posts since I made that comment many months ago waiting for me to slip up on a chronological detail. And I did. I erroneously said that I saw a movie when I was in 5th grade even though it was't out yet. I guess I don't remember almost 40 years ago as well as I should.

Anyway, BB grasps on this straw and turns it into a federal case to the point of questioning my honesty. I should find that insulting, but considering the source, I shrug it off. I guess I should be flattered that someone on the DR has taken such an intense interest in my life. I just wish it was someone other than Buffy Boob.

(trees seems like a nice enough person for the job! *grin*)

I dunno what you're all thinking, the scariest movie of all time: Ishtar.

Jeff J

A drivers license would prove the point about the fifth or sixth grade. However it would prove nothing as far as his being a Viet Nam Era Veteran. He said he had VIET NAM ERA VETERAN stamped on his DD214. That's what made me doubt his word. It may be stamped on there, but logic tells me that the enlistment date would be sufficient proof of Viet Nam Era status, so why stamp that on the DD214?

What I would believe is another Viet Nam Era veteran who got out after it was all over and see if they have VIET NAM ERA VETERAN stamped on their DD214.

Bob,


What if he showed Mao his DD214 form?

Boob -- you claimed to have been in Viet Nam. I don't believe you for two reasons:

1) You didn't know about the delayed entry program which meant I could have gone active duty as late as May 6, 1976 (signed for the inactive reserve for a year before) and still be a Viet Nam era Veteran

2) you are asking for other Viet Nam era Veterans about their DD214. Why don't you just look at at your own?

Jeff -- this has gotten into the absurdly surreal. I have no desire to prove anything to an idiot like boob. If he doesn't want to believe me fine. But I'm not meeting Pinche or anyone with my life's vital documents in tow to prove to a crack pot conspiracist like Boob who and what I am.

Even if I did, he would claim Pinche was lying or that I forged the documents.

What I would believe is another Viet Nam Era veteran who got out after it was all over and see if they have VIET NAM ERA VETERAN stamped on their DD214.

Look at your own, boob. You said you were in Viet Nam.

Goat,

not long ago, boob called me a liar when I told him we were expecting our 3rd child.

He accused me of lying because he insisted that it was impossible for us to have heard the heartbeat at 5 or 6 weeks. There is nothing boob isn't an expert at. He is an OB and a 5-star general, a theologian, a physicist etc....

Because of his assertion of the heartbeat issue, he insisted I must be lying about the pregnancy all together. This, of course, came up during a debate on abortion rights.

Honest question:

How many eggs have hit Bob's house in the past year?

What I would believe is another Viet Nam Era veteran who got out after it was all over and see if they have VIET NAM ERA VETERAN stamped on their DD214.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-15 03:41 PM


This has to be the dumbest diversion on a thread, ever...Boob, you have really outdone yourself this time.

This the most retarded argument EVER here on the DR!!

5th grade, 6th grade...Who gives a fuck!?!

He went in in 75 and that makes him 'Vietnam Era' according to the Pentagon. He wasn't in the war (he never claimed to be), has was in the 'era'.

End of fucking story!

Now kiss and make up!

Jeff J

I am a Viet Nam Vet. My DD214 does not state that I am a Viet Nam Era Vet. There are no stamps like that on my DD214. However I got out when Nam was still going on. Goatman got out after it was all over. That could make a difference on whether it is stamped on there or not.

That's why I would like to have another Viet Nam Era Vet who got out after it was all over to confirm that it is stamped on there. Goatman doesn't have to do a thing.

Everyone back then knew of delayed enlistment, but to be in the American Legion you had to have been on active duty for one day as of May 7, 1975 to qualify as a Viet Nam Era Veteran. Those dates are accepted by The American Legion and were set forth by the Congress of the United States. That's good enough for me. The difference is Viet Nam Era Vets are included in the Equal Employment Act along with women and minorities. That one day of ACTIVE service could make a big difference.

I wonder when Sarge was in. I already asked 101.

boob,

My wife and I are having a sonogram next week to determine the gender of our nonhuman.

You better check on a website to make sure I'm not lying. It might be impossible to determine this on a sonogram because it is only 4 months into the pregnancy.

If you say so, I'll call them all fucking liars when I'm looking at the sonogram. In addition, I plan to call them fucking liars because I didn't really hear the heartbeat at 5 or 6 weeks either like YOU SAID.

glad we have you around boob. You add so much value to the drudge retort.

Eberly: You are wise to get the facts from the DR expert. Don't trust your doctor, though! He's probably part of the conspiracy

I'm surprised Silence of the Lambs didn't make the list. Hannibal Lecter has freaked a lot of people out.

BBob,


Tadowe might fit the bill.

"My wife and I are having a sonogram next week to determine the gender of our nonhuman.

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-15 04:27 PM"

I second this vote, for the most terrifying movie scene ever. It promises to be worse than the "birth" in Alien.

"My wife and I are having a sonogram next week to determine the gender of our nonhuman.

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-15 04:27 PM"

Huh???? Your wife likes horses???

Huh???? Your wife likes horses???

Only moneybore could be so crass.

Crass us.

Hmmm.....

Trilogy of Terror: the evil possessed african hunter doll stalking Karen Black is still one of the scariest scenes ever.

Ha! Spud is actually agree with Bowa on sommat.

Will wonders never cease?

Scary little freak-ass doll. Karen Black rawked.

The Simpsons did an excellent piss-take on the thing in one of their infamous Halloween episodes. A Krusty doll accidently set to "evil" takes the place of the African devil doll. Funny stuff.

Also creepy fer Spud and even much parodied is the scene from Night Gallery where the guy has the weird bug that eat it's way into his brain and then exits very painfully. The look on his face at the end when he realised that it's not over was pure abject terror.

"It laid eggs".

Brrr.

Be Well.

The end of Silence of the Lambs, in the dark room, he can see her in nightvision, but she can't see him and her eyes are wide as hell. I always want to scream: "Claire! He's RIGHT BEHIND YOU!"

That and some movie I saw as a kid in the 60's or early 70's on TV called The Spiral Staircase.

Or any interview with Ann Coulter or Dr. Laura that somehow makes it into a movie.

Trilogy of Terror: the evil possessed african hunter doll stalking Karen Black is still one of the scariest scenes ever.


Holy crap! I haven't thought of that in almost 30 yrs! That was freaky, but kind of funny after awhile.

I still think any scene that had Oompa Loompas in the orginal Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory are the most terrifying scenes ever.

"My wife and I are having a sonogram next week to determine the gender of our nonhuman.

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-15 04:27 PM"

I second this vote, for the most terrifying movie scene ever. It promises to be worse than the "birth" in Alien.

Posted by mOntecOre


FF

more Stalag 17:

[questioning Price]
Sefton: When was Pearl Harbor, Price, or don't you know that?
Price: December 7th, '41.
Sefton: What time?
Price: 6:00. I was having dinner.
Sefton: 6:00 in Berlin.
[to the other barrack members]
Sefton: They were having lunch in Cleveland. Am I boring you boys?
Hoffy: Go on.
Sefton: He's a Nazi, Price is. For all I know his name is Preissinger or Preishoffer. Oh, sure, he lived in Cleveland. But when the war broke out, he came back to the Fatherland like a good little Bundist. He spoke our lingo, so they sent him to spy school and fixed him up with phony dog tags.

I road my bicycle to the theater all alone to see the original "Invasion of the Body Snatchers".
The movie started about 8 o'clock and at about 10:30 I stepped out onto the street, alone in the dark, and jumped on my bike. I raced home as fast as I could (about 2 miles uphill) and literally ran into the house.
I couldn't sleep for over a week.
All I kept seeing in my mind was the last 30 seconds of that movie.
IT WAS AWESOME.

Late last night, upon the stairs
I saw a man, who wasn't there
He wasn't there, again, today
Gee, I wish he'd go away!

At the end of "Carrie" when the bloody hand comes out of the ground is certainly worthy of a mention.

Jan 18 2004 when butt-nugget was swore in...again.

"Jan 18 2004 when butt-nugget was swore in...again."

Although it would certainly qualify as one...that was not a horror movie.

But I understand where you're coming from!

How about the scene when susan seranden...Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhg
ggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!

I wont even show my kids bull durham

fahrenheit 911 - when a sweaty bush says, 'now watch this golf swing!' then plants his sorry ass in a fleeing golfcart.

COME ON PEOPLE! I didn't read all of the above but in the original Friday the 13th (before Jason)when the first "Current Day" death happens...not the flashback that opens the movie...the hitchhiking counselor's throat is cut, scary enough, but the camera didn't cut, it held and the slit actually opened to let blood come out, basically introducing the world to the wonders of latex. The entire theater knew they were in for something entirely new. Scared the sh#t out of the whole audience and the horror kept coming for the rest of the movie.

Awwwww, Karen Black.....damn she was a turn on imho.

Plus, this thread certifies that BuffaloBobBoob gets access to the computer in the nut house.

"Plus, this thread certifies that BuffaloBobBoob gets access to the computer in the nut house."

Posted by ride_on at 2007-10-16 08:28 PM

This is news?



As for the thread.

1957

Ed Sullivan show.

Black & White outline of a city.

Bomb drops.

Screen goes white.


Following is an animated moth flying into a flame and extinguishing it.


There exist some 20,000 nuclear weapons.

"Scary movie."

Big woo.