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This was all spelled out months and months ago--this is not new--

But suddenly it's all crumbling!

Good grief.


Murphy

This was all spelled out months and months ago--this is not new--
But suddenly it's all crumbling!
Good grief.
Murphy

Posted by MURPHY


LOL, It isn't sudden Murph, but it is all crumbling.

Given that the whole operation was supposed to take 6 months, they've really surpassed expectations.

Jon Stewart pointed out Bush lied to the American people (again) in his 9-13 speech where he miscounted the Coalition nations by about 40%.

How many nations did his old man manage to sign up for Gulf1? How many muslim nations?

I wish we were fortunate enough to have the type of leadership the UK now has. They at least now have a leader they do not need to be ashamed of.

2500 public employee Brits can be easily replaced with mercenaries.

"Coalition of the willing", make room for the "coalition of the billing".

Nothing to see here, move along please.

Fuck Bush and his gang of thieves and murderers.

Posted by moder8 at 2007-10-10 12:13 AM

I wish we were fortunate enough to have the type of leadership the UK now has. They at least now have a leader they do not need to be ashamed of.

The war is a fraud, and you dumbfucks that say we should go in an level the neighborhoods and kill more Iraqis are brainwashed, hateful, fools.
The US is on the verge of becoming a third world peon nation like Mexico and you dumbfucks are going to still be cussing the Muslims when your country crumbles under your feet.

I realize war is a very political monster and I am not going to debate the reasons for this war...but, I find it very distressing that Poland will leave its 900 soldiers in Iraq until the election in the US. Leaving its own countrymen in harms way for an election in America...I mean, if you are going to fight a war, at least claim it's for human rights, weapons of mass destruction, global stability, or some other crap...not the election results of another country an ocean away.

""We need control over and priority access to oil.""

Nothing is more dangerous to America than opinions like this which pretend to be a pragmatic and responsible view of our energy needs and the actions we need to take to insure our supply. However when you look at the real picture, especially including the terrorist threat posed by imperialistic invasions for oil it becomes pretty obvious that only a lunatic still believes the US has the power to invade and occupy countries and take their oil. We simply can't afford it.
Also, I wish everyone who espouses such imperialistic bull shit would, at least, enlist in the expeditionary force to go and steal that which does not belong to us.

At least we'll still have the two Latvian's helping out.....

Meanwhile, the British are bunkered in at the Basra airport.

AU, you forgot the Tongan manning that recon balloon over at Dora Farms.

Ignorant cows.
It won't crumble, there will just be another "event" and then we go into the next country, then the next and the next.
Ignorant cows.

Ignorant cows.

Posted by camelkud at 2007-10-10 09:20 AM

Thou puny tardy-gaited mumble-news!

At least we can count on Albania's 120 troops.

make that 70 Albanians

Congrats, Johnson. All the Liberal fools fell for it! Very funny indeed!

Coalition of the bribed and recalcitrant.

SPIN, SPIN, SPIN

Hans,

I am sure you've heard the cliche about beating a dead horse. Well, about Vern's calculator...

Hans!

Where have you been? I've missed you my cute little cyber-stalker! Have you taken a shower this week?

I'm flattered that you are so obsessed with me that you're still making off-topic posts just to get my attention. Hungry for that, ehh? It gets lonely, just sitting there with the computer, listening to the TV in the background. What kind of microwave burrito will you have for lunch?

Still croaking about my floating decimal error. The minor mistake I conceded a year ago! Well, I guess you gotta have something to think about.

Where's the link (yet again) to some song nobody cares about? You remember, Hans, I used a hymn to poke fun at your worship of Algore, and the best you could do was mimic me.

"Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski said Tuesday his government won't decide whether to withdraw its 900 soldiers from Iraq until after the U.S. national election next year. The Poles have ruled out "escape or desertion, because that would mean losing everything that we've gained," Kaczynski told Polish state Radio 1. "It's going to be necessary to wait on the results of the American elections." "

I visited Poland in 1993. The people there were great and they loved Americans. I met one 16 year old kid (I was 19) who acted like he was meeting his favorite rock band when he found out me and my friends were Americans. The older people were the only Europeans I came across that would offer help to confused Americans without being asked. I didn't like the food much, but I left with a real affection for the people.

But the above statement is the dumbest shit ever. First of all, we can't lose imaginary "gains" in Iraq. Saddam isn't coming back to life and nothing else has been accomplished. Secondly, you are not going to influence our election. But if you could, then as long as whatever you say about the war is true, you are helping us make an informed choice. Don't go from being a satellite state of one power to being the satellite of another. You've proved to be an ally when you were asked for help and now you have as much right as anyone to have an opinion. Poles may feel like the "owe" us but blind loyalty to our more self destructive policies isn't the way to pay us back.

Classic - within two sentences, Vernie accuses Hans of being a stalker and inquires about taking a shower. Creepy. Classic, but creepy.

"I mean, if you are going to fight a war, at least claim it's for human rights, weapons of mass destruction, global stability, or some other crap...not the election results of another country an ocean away.

Posted by rhancock1972 at 2007-10-10 07:27 AM" Don't kid yourself, Poland is doing this for payola. It may not be publicized, but there is tit-for-tat going on here.

JOHNSON ... "We should minimize the exposure of our military personnel to harm by employing our technological advantages to the maximum, and destroy Iraqi militants without consideration of the effects on Iraqi civilians. And we need to tell the Iraqis who complain, their President and whoever, that they can take gas, that we are in charge, and that they'll need to do things our way."

We've already killed about a million Iraqis, and displaced about two million. And, that's out of a population of about 23 million: 12% of the population ... Yeah; the US military has been SO kid-gloved ...

JOHNSON ... "I am ashamed at the reticence and weakness that Mr. Bush has shown. That demonstrates that you don't want conservatives, who are too compassionate to act aggressively to accomplish our purposes. After all, there are really important matters to be addressed. We need large permanent bases in Iraq to provide us with a political and military platform so that we can exercise geopolitical influence in the region."

I'm ashamed that our country, "a country of laws", has allowed a dictator to gain control our armed forces, and farm them out to the highest bidder; the global corporate fascist regime, in the name of "American Freedom" and "American Democracy", transforming the two into nothing more than a skid-mark in the briefs of history ...


JOHNSON ... "We need control over and priority access to oil. We need to charge the Iraqis for our costs in liberating them. We possibly can assess an additional surtax on them to among other things compensate the families of our people killed in Iraq, and also those who were wounded or otherwise injured. It's only right. We should be building an empire and benefiting from our involvement instead of essaying the role of Samaritans. Pax Americana."

So, what you're saying is: you want to steal the energy resources of a sovereign nation at all costs: thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of seriously wounded Americans, millions of Iraqi lives, the economic future of America and the esteem and good will that was handed to us after 9/11, and then hand the profits of this fiasco to the international oil corporations... Nice plan...

And, the Iraqis never asked for "liberation", much less the abortion of liberty that we have "blessed" them with. And, since day one, they have desperately wanted us out of their country; I don't think that a surcharge is in order, and I don't think that we can ever repay the blood-debt that we have incurred in Iraq ...

Think they feel they need their troops back home before their muslim population up-rises - lol.

Bush claims there are 36 nations when in fact there are only 25....totaling 3% of all the forces in Iraq.

BTW, Iceland removed one person from Iraq this week, bringing their total in Iraq to......drumroll please.....ZERO!

Well, it has been a few years... We're talking about pulling out troops next year as well. Its time to start letting the Iraqis pick up the slack.

At least we'll still have the two Latvian's helping out.....

Two "coalition" troops blown up at Camp Victory.
Ya don't think.....