Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, October 09, 2007

The founder of the company, the SITE Intelligence Group, says this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group's communications network.

"Techniques that took years to develop are now ineffective and worthless," said Rita Katz, the firm's 44-year-old founder, who has garnered wide attention by publicizing statements and videos from extremist chat rooms and Web sites, while attracting controversy over the secrecy of SITE's methodology. Her firm provides intelligence about terrorist groups to a wide range of paying clients, including private firms and military and intelligence agencies from the United States and several other countries.

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"Techniques that took years to develop are now ineffective and worthless," said Rita Katz, the firm's 44-year-old founder, who has garnered wide attention by publicizing statements and videos from extremist chat rooms and Web sites....

Thanks yet again to our fearless, feckless leaders in the White House! Was it truly that important to leak information that was going to be made public in a matter of hours anyway? So a method for snooping on AQ is lost because the White House couldn't wait to tell the world that OBL was making a new mix tape. Did Timbaland produce it? Was Tupac on background threats?

Okay righties, let's hear what you think about the Bushies efforts in keeping us safe from the big, bad boogeyman Osama. This is pathetic. And the Democrats will continue to roll over and play dead just like they always do.

4th blog on this, I cant believe this is not getting more play.


BUSH WH OUTED AN INTELLIGENCE LINK TO AQ!

guess america is suffering from fiasco fatigue.

4th blog on this, I cant believe this is not getting more play.

Not when the right has 12 year olds to smear and slime with false innuendo. How does it stand a chance?

Makes one wonder what side they are really on.

I wish this administration wasn't able to fool as many people as they have. Some people will just never learn.

Some people will just never learn.

I know. We're arguing with them on the Sandy Berger thread!

When this administration tries to bomb Iran they will probably miss. Neighboring countries are preparing for bomb attacks but Iranians seem quite secure.

In this case, SITE obtained the most recent Osama bin Laden video several days before it went public. Though the company is a for-profit enterprise, SITE contacted White House counsel Fred Fielding and Michael Leiter, who holds the No. 2 job at the National Counterterrorism Center, with a link to a private SITE page containing the video and an English transcript. "Please understand the necessity for secrecy," SITE's founder Rita Katz wrote in her email. "We ask you not to distribute . . . [as] it could harm our investigations."

That was at 10 am on Sept. 7. Within a few hours, it was on several television news outlets. By 3 pm, Fox News posted the video transcript with a reference to SITE, including page markers identical to those used by the group. "This confirms that the U.S. government was responsible for the leak of this document," Katz wrote in an email to Leiter at 5 p.m.


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Good 'ole Fox News. Keeping AQ safe from intrusive surveillance!

"Though the company is a for-profit enterprise, SITE" .....wow and they did what the big bureaucracy govco couldn't. Go figure. Who says outsourcing govco is bad.
What is bad is a bunch of fat ass government bureaucrats who couldn't or wouldn't keep it quiet like requested. They need to be flushed out and fired!
Do you rabid lefties really believe if Bush knew what the ramifications of the release would be he would authorize such a thing? Nah...don't bother to answer.

Do you rabid lefties really believe if Bush knew what the ramifications of the release would be he would authorize such a thing? Nah...don't bother to answer.

Why am I not surprised that you do not even understand the problem here?

Hasn't one thing been proven over and over again, ad nauseum, in regards to Bush and his government? THEY DON'T USE GOOD JUDGMENT, THEY DO EVERYTHING BASED ON POLITICAL CALCULUS, NOT COMMON SENSE!

They don't listen to anyone trying to tell them the correct course, they're determined to do it on their own and the results have been disasterous!

Shouldn't the real question be, "Why didn't the leakers realize that by exposing the information prior to AQ doing so, would tip them off to their internal security being compromised?"

Personally, I believe the White House never even thought about the consequences because if they did, they never would have leaked the tape in the first place!

Oh...Tony!Now that you have splained it to me ....I feel soooo stupid. I should have known that one of you lefties would understand this soooooo much better than little neo tighty righty me.
So, hon...how do you move that big ole head of yours around when it comes time to go home at night?

C'mon Kerrin...I'm only interested in keeping it as real as possible. I've never claimed you as being stupid. My assertion is that you jump to immediate conclusions thinking that the left never is astute or cognizant of its own failings. It can be both, though, as with the right, sometimes its neither.

I don't mean my tone to be threatening and I apologize if it comes off that way.

And on point, isn't what I've said nothing more than common sense for a White House that doesn't even publically divulge who visits Cheney in the Executive Office building?

I find it hard to think that those who's responsibility daily is keeping this nation's secrets classified would suddenly have trouble understanding the simple language of a private company trying to give them a heads-up advantage in knowing what it knew prior to AQ's public release of the information. It doesn't make any sense in this context.

For this to be leaked is a shame and once again heads should roll....Not downplaying the fact that it was leaked....like I said heads should roll in the WH...Not going to hold my breath....On to somebody that thinks they have shit that smells like a rose......


More dishonesty and spin from Tony Roma.....

"Good 'ole Fox News. Keeping AQ safe from intrusive surveillance!"

Not saying that Fox was right but just showing how you are not being completely on the up and up by only blaming fox news for the disclosure that hurts America. I am just pointing out your oh so obvious bias, not to mention that you are the almighty in your eyes and you probably bend over the toilet after going to the restroom just because you like the smell of your own shit.

"On the morning of September 7, the Web site of ABC News posted excerpts from the speech.

But the disclosure from ABC and later other news organizations tipped off Qaeda's internal security division that the organization's Internet communications system, known among American intelligence analysts as Obelisk, was compromised."

To be completely honest Tony you are a hack that just thinks he is better than all the other hacks, oh and if you read my drivel to this point....This was a shot at you and your obvious inconsistencies.

SM...

Did you read the copy I posted? Did it mention any other television outlet running the "video transcript with a reference to SITE, including page markers identical to those used by the group" with story prior to its release by AQ?

First you accuse me of being selective, then you accuse me of not "being up and up." What did I do to deserve your scorn, mon ami?

My snide comment was in obvious connection to the widely known fact the White House prefers Fox News over the other networks. If you have an issue, I think its more with your own lack of reading comprehension skills because you always try to put words into my mouth that I've never said.

Why not let me speak for myself and work on your own issues instead?

"Why not let me speak for myself and work on your own issues instead?"

Because this is a open blog for people to challenge people on comments that they make. I will comment on anything I see fit, be it my issue, your issue, my drivel, or your obvious holier than thou attitude. Thanks for your concern, you can continue with your know it all attitude.

By 3 pm, Fox News posted the video transcript with a reference to SITE, including page markers identical to those used by the group. "This confirms that the U.S. government was responsible for the leak of this document," Katz wrote in an email to Leiter at 5 p.m.


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But the disclosure from ABC and later other news organizations tipped off Qaeda's internal security division that the organization's Internet communications system, known among American intelligence analysts as Obelisk, was compromised."

I don't know who Obelisk is or how they fit in this story, but I feel more comfortable quoting from the originating source, not others commenting on secondhand information. Katz is the President of SITE and Katz wrote an e-mail at 5pm to Leiter, stating that the Fox News report was confirmation that the leak came from within the government as it regarded what Fox disclosed. Leiter is Number 2 at the National Counterterrorism Center.

Fox, not ABC or any other network. Sorry if the facts don't fit into your agenda. They seldom do.

Like the AQ people are not going to know when they see transcripts of the speech on ABC News website. I am here just pointing out the obvious, not saying about ABC what you said about Fox but the comparison could be made that the cat was already out of the bag by that time.

Somebody must have contacted ABC first or it was given to ABC by Fox thats what I am gathering. Agenda?

Because this is a open blog for people to challenge people on comments that they make. I will comment on anything I see fit, be it my issue, your issue, my drivel, or your obvious holier than thou attitude. Thanks for your concern, you can continue with your know it all attitude.

I hardly have a know-it-all attitude. You may perceive it as such because I challenge your bullshit with reality. You can have whatever opinion you want to, but you cannot have your own truth.

Your comments are based on personal issues, not those I'm discussing openly with everyone. If this threatens you then I suggest you find other outlets for your frustrations. I'd welcome any challenge on actual points of difference other than your perceptions about myself. I know me rather well, and I'm not the subject of this thread, nor do I wish to be.

SM...

I understand. I did not believe there was an argument that all the media was informed through the White House. My only point in following the excerpt that I posted was that Fox must have copied it verbatum without changing anything, and THIS was a direct tip-off to AQ that their methods had been compromised.

Certainly, they may have figured it out through the other sources as well, but SITE chose to single them out by name, and I just followed suit.

You challenge my bullshit with your percieved reality.

Tony,

I do respect you here as a poster, I do tend to get heated at times, I rarely post anymore but usually check in from time to time. I have enjoyed your banter with Corky the Stupid Liar about Hillary and Obama and agree with you on that issue. Just feel the need to ruffle your almighty feathers from time to time.

SM...

I almost told you to read my 2.26 post to Kerrin. I appreciate having my views challenged based on their content, not on my ideological affiliations. Its more than okay to get heated. These are heated times and calling each other names isn't going to solve our problems.

I try my best to be open to the opinions of others, but many times its not opinions that aree offered, its only personal criticisms. I do not like those types of discussions.

I don't have "almighty feathers" at all. I'm a flightless waterfowl. (My alter-ego has been Opus the Penguin for over 20 years) I even own a rare "life-size" Opus (about 20" tall), which is my prize possession.

Do you rabid lefties really believe if Bush knew what the ramifications of the release would be he would authorize such a thing?

Didn't seem to bother them when they outed Plame and broke up her anti-WMD network.
As for a private company doing the work, can anybody explain what the Bushies are doing with the billins pumped into DHS if they can't replicate what some small time geeks can do?
Does it make you sleep better knowing Bush is as on top of Homeland Security as he is was on katrina or either of his wars?

Maybe I should go buy some plastic sheets and duct tape....

It's not really a leak, it's more of a process release.
Like a speeding ticket, only not so bad.

The Right

Katz told the WaPo, "Techniques that took years to develop are now ineffective and worthless." The WaPo spoke to intelligence officials who conceded that the administration was wrong, and praised SITE for having been "tremendously helpful" in ferreting out al Qaeda secrets over time.

Remind me, who thinks the White House is trustworthy on national security issues?

It doesn't get a lot of attention, but for all the talk about the Bush gang's penchant for secrecy, these guys have remarkably loose lips. We are, after all, taking about a White House which authorized top staffers to disclose classified information to reporters about Iraq's weapons capability in June and July 2003. For that matter, the same officials aren't terribly good at keeping the identity of undercover CIA agents under wraps, and the Vice President doesn't seem entirely clear on what he can and cannot declassify.

Moreover, it appears that the White House "authorized" leaks of classified information to reporter Bob Woodward, possibly undermining national security.

The details of the SITE leak are still a little vague, but one can't help but wonder if perhaps the White House released the bin Laden video and transcript to serve a political purpose. After all, it was right around the time of a heated debate over FISA. Would the Bush gang undermine national security surveillance efforts against al Qaeda to score some political points? Given what we've seen, it's hardly outside the realm of possibility.

For that matter, Igor Volsky reminds us what happened when the NYT ran with some al Qaeda-related leaks, prompting conservatives to accuse the newspaper of "treason." Given the circumstances, the White House's handling of the bin Laden video seems even more serious, and far more irresponsible.


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Not first time WH done this, either...ask Johnny Skulls & Bones Kerry about that fake Bin in 2004:>)

Worthless POS dr lefters. By your outrage, you admit the tapes are real. Bin Laden is praising the 911 suicide killers, and threatening more death and carnage. Tony you claimed those vids were fake. Now you say they are real. Same twisting of logic to fit your 911 conpiracy crap. You were one of the biggest supporters of that crap.


I am calling out EVERY drudge 911 conspiracy asshole, and you ARE ASSHOLES if you hide behind your screens and refuse to acknowledge that Bin Laden's vids are real, and he was the mastermind of 911.

How pathetic all 911thetruthupurassdotorgs and dr left conspiracy sympathizers truly ARE for literally thousands of retorts blaming GW for 911. This site has always been full of loonies, and by refusing to admit your hypocracy, you clearly prove how lame YOU ARE.

Vids are real? lol

You mean the video remake of a previous video?

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