OMG, they're all hysterical. They are absolutely foaming at the mouth.

He also included Sen. Jim Webb as a 'phony soldier' last week.

Sen. Webb - Marine Officer, Vietnam combat vet, former Sec of the Navy, and who's son is in Iraq in the Marines right now.

The Bushites are in serious trouble and they are lashing out. I sit here and laugh at every signle one of them. I think it is mighty Hilarious I really do. They are losing their colllective minds. Poor Bushites Be Brave Be Brave. You might think about Your mindset next time when You decide to throw Your support behind a baffoon.

Larry

Limbaugh's definition of a phony soldier:
Jack Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, a retired Marine colonel, decorated and wounded veteran of the Vietnam War who served for 37 years and was awarded the Bronze Star.

sorry, but Limbaugh's qualifications are nill!

Rush Limpbaw was a phony draft deferring chickenhawk with a boil on his talibone. LOL !!

neocons dont really support the troops

this is evidenced by the fact that every solider who has come out against the iraq war is either a traitor or a "phony solider" in their eyes

the cons use "support the troops" as a means to their political ends

that is all

What else would one expect from a phony talk-show host.

Murtha is a phony. Say anything to your loony-left base to get elected and get a majority, then--once you get it--do nothing.

I'm glad he's a phony, though. Before the election I actually was worried about what he might try to do. Who could have known, he's be just a big, blustering teddy bear?

Regurgitated
Utterly
Shitty
Host


Larry

Hey tubby, when are you going to point out that the coked up lush in the White House is a phony fighter pilot.

Uh oh -- going after the left's sacred cow now. This ought to be a predictible thread. Usual retorts from the usual suspects. . . .

then why did you open this thread goatman?
just to type that?

"Usual retorts from the usual suspects...."


1) Rush's behavior emphasizes the lie he told when he said "phoney soldiers" was just one person rather than any soldier that voiced disagreement with Bush.

2) One top of the emphasis Rush supplied by redacting that part of his show's transcript he felt was embarrasing to him.

So go ahead, arrest me.

I really don't know why Rush's attitude strikes some as strange and debatable. He and the Neoright have had this same opinion of non-conforming soldiers (from their point of view) since the beginning.

Rush's and the extreme Right's attitude is, and always has been, that soldierly (or ex-soldierly)deviation from the thought of Maximum Leader is traitorous.

Really, given the fascist Guatemalan Caudillo coloration the Neoright has always sought to give Bush, they ought just drop this civilian Commander-in-Chief Mickey Mouse and give him the active rank of Field Marshal so he can appear in public wearing some pretty uniform.

Zed says, "So go ahead, arrest me."

No need for that, and since it is more fun to laugh at you! At all of you!

All of you (well those with any intelligence) can go right now to www.rushlimbaugh.com and listen to the actual words and context of what was said! Or, if time is essential, read the transcript of what was said ...

None of you has done that, or you are base liars in saying you have, but still spouting this party propaganda ...

Making Limbaugh into more of a celebrity than he has ever been before!!!

He is making money hand over fist from you whining subversives, of that there is no doubt, whatsoever!

"Read the (edited) transcipt of what was said...."

"He's making money hand over fist..."

Exactly, Tad. That always makes everything alright. Starting with with drug dealing....

But since was have Tad on the line, let's ask him: "Are soldiers (or ex ones) that disagree intellectually with Bush war policy traitors?"

Yes, I do understand "yes" or "no" questions are the hardest ones.

It is too bad that Rush "Rambo" Limbaugh had the mother of all ass cysts or we may have won the Vietnam war.

You know Sully I wouldn't doubt BushLoverTwo licks that big ole cyst for good luck when He kisses Rush's ass.

Larry

"A senior general at the Pentagon said he believes the United States is already on the road to defeat. "It is doubtful we can go on much longer like this," he said. "The American people may not stand for it -- and they should not."

Asked who was to blame, this general pointed directly at Rumsfeld and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz. "I do not believe we had a clearly defined war strategy, end state and exit strategy before we commenced our invasion," he said. "Had someone like Colin Powell been the chairman [of the Joint Chiefs of Staff], he would not have agreed to send troops without a clear exit strategy. The current OSD [Office of the Secretary of Defense] refused to listen or adhere to military advice."

This didn't start this year. Here's some perspective from May 2004:

"In a press statement Ehren Watada said, "It is my conclusion as an officer of the Armed Forces that the war in Iraq is not only morally wrong but a horrible breach of American law. Although I have tried to resign out of protest, I am forced to participate in a war that is manifestly illegal. As the order to take part in an illegal act is ultimately unlawful as well, I must as an officer of honor and integrity refuse that order."

The day following Lt. Watada's refusal and public statement, military higher ups moved to prosecute Watada for what amounts to public speech. Watada's response was to the point, "I have a legal and ethical obligation to speak out against, and refuse to fight, this patently illegal war in Iraq. This has not changed."

The lead lawyer representing Watada, Eric Seitz, made clear that Watada is being gone after to keep him from "speaking out in opposition to the unlawful war."

Zed wants to know, "But since was have Tad on the line, let's ask him: Are soldiers (or ex ones) that disagree intellectually with Bush war policy traitors?"

Ex-soldiers who disagree with this war are not traitors, if their disagreement is sincerely explained and not an attempt to gain partisan advantage for their efforts.

Soldiers on active duty who make public pronouncements in disagreement with this war are insubordinate and are foresworn in their oaths, but not traitors.

It is the stooges of partisan politics who are the traitors and active subversives against all of our nation, in order to gain political advantage as payment for their sabotage; to gain votes by vilifying and dehumanizing our soldiers to hamstring morale and the will to win of the public. The very soldiers, themselves, who lie and are fake patriots. The very ONES that Limbaugh meant when he said so ... and I was listening at the time.

Stooges like those who mock and revile any scent of disagreement with "yellow-dog", knee-jerk efforts to profit from this war by losing it for all of the USA, and in support of human sacrificing subhumans we are fighting this war to destroy!

Scum sucking traitors to America for party gain .... despicable, greedy partisans and fearful cowards...

"It is the stooges of partisan politics who are the traitors and active subversives against all of our nation..."

Yeah...take a long look in the mirror, sonny boy.

OK, I've posted to what amount to hundreds of Generals, Officers, and enlisted Iraq Vets against the Iraq War.

Come on righties. Let's hear how they're ALL 'phony soldiers'.

LMAO !!

"Scum sucking traitors to America for party gain .... despicable, greedy partisans and fearful cowards..."

I don't think anyone could describe ol' tad and his follower with more accuracy.

Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict.

AU mocks, "Come on righties. Let's hear how they're ALL 'phony soldiers'."

Well, actually they are made into being phony soldiers by their partisan interest in having their opinions used for party over nation propaganda.

Their efforts might be sincere and they actually believe that this war is wrong. However, when their status as civilians is misdirected to them being "soldiers" in order to use their opinions to undermine the success of the United States and the morale of the soldiers who are actively fighting, now ... well, yes they are phony for allowing that to continue. By allowing it to continue, they demonstrate their partisan support of subverting the success of the war and the morale of our soldiers.

Along with the treaonous efforts of partisan stooges of the Leftist/Democratics who hypocritically support the same sort of "undeclared wars" by their commander in chief, but unpatriotically refuse to cooperate in successfully defeating America's enemies when a Republican is president.

Scumsucking vermin, squirming for votes and undermining our national honor to do so ...

Military service:

Congressman Jack Murtha - respected 37 year USMC veteran

Rush "never in the military" Limbaugh -- "ouch, sorry, I had a big, ol' boil on my ass that stayed on my butt just long enough to keep me out of 'Nam. whew!

Sarge whines, "What A Emboldening Tool You Are !!"

You didn't listen to what he actually said, Sarge. You were too busy listening to your personal siren, the DNC and those who don't even quote what Limbaugh was supposed to have said ... except that elipses take it out of context.

I really don't expect anything else from the phony soldiers like you, Sarge ...

Service to the United States of America:

RUSH LIMBAUGH - NOTHING

CONGRESSMAN JOHN MURTHA: (see below)

Beginning as a raw recruit when he left Washington and Jefferson College in 1952 to join the Marines out of a growing sense of obligation to his country during the Korean War.

There he earned the American Spirit Honor Medal, awarded to fewer than one in 10,000 recruits. He rose through the ranks to become a drill instructor at Parris Island and was selected for Officer Candidate School at Quantico, Virginia. He then was assigned to the Second Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

In 1959, Captain Murtha took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown. He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for Vietnam in 1966-67, where he served as the S-2 intelligence officer for the 1st Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division and received the Bronze Star with Combat "V", two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.

He remained in the Reserves until his retirement. This first-hand knowledge of military and defense issues has made him a trusted adviser to presidents of both parties and one of the most effective advocates for the national defense in Washington.
John Murtha was awarded the Navy Distinguished Service Medal by the Marine Corps Commandant when he retired from the Marines.

I really don't expect anything else from the phony soldiers like you, Sarge

You Are The Phony TAD !!!

I did listen to him, Whine about "Phony Soldiers" when the very person he called "Phony" was a Combat Vet You Tool !!

Oh I forgot Rush has tell you what he means after he states and then you repeat it. Like Simon Says, Right !!

Did You Read This:

"Excised from the clip was a full 1 minute and 35 seconds of the 1:50 discussion that occurred between Limbaugh's original "phony soldiers" comment and his reference to MacBeth, the full audio of which can be heard here. However, even the edited clip Limbaugh played showed that his discussion of Jesse MacBeth came after his "phony soldiers" comment during the show that day."

Sort Of Like The Nixon WaterGate Tapes, You Tool !!

-Sarge

then why did you open this thread goatman?
just to type that?

???

Uh oh -- going after the left's sacred cow now

You mean guys who actually served, versus the ones who begged off due to ass pimples?

If the military just allowed gays to serve, Rush could have been the warrior he always pretends to be.

1) Rush's behavior emphasizes the lie he told when he said "phoney soldiers" was just one person rather than any soldier that voiced disagreement with Bush.

2) One top of the emphasis Rush supplied by redacting that part of his show's transcript he felt was embarrasing to him.

So go ahead, arrest me.

Posted by Zed at 2007-09-30 02:21 PM

How could I, Zed? No crime in telling the truth, is there?

I think all Republithugs should go through security at Phoenix airport.

I was vilified in Vietnam, when I questioned an "interrogation" by the Vietnamese of a POW caught stealing. I was verbally abused, followed by my own fellow soldiers, and had my assignment changed from Berlin to San Anontio, Texas, after leaving 'Nam.

Democratics did it. President Johnson was the tyrant, if you care to apply the "logic" used by Leftist/Democratics to blame Bush, or the war for the idiocy of those running it, on the spot.

I don't. President Johnson didn't blame me, the whistleblower, neither did the Pentagon, or the Army, or anyone else but the asshole who thought my effort to inform the Vietnamese was some sort of hippy-pinko-faggot peace loving act of a traitor for mentioning the Geneva Convention or Code of Conduct. I was fingered by a fellow soldier and mislabeled like Leftist/Democratic attack artists like to do, now ...

This "soldier" has an axe to grind, is politically motivated, or both; among whatever other selfish reasons to dishonor his service during a time of war. And, that's the same with all the others ... they too have some selfish motive for acting out in this unpatriotic way ... a way they have been trained is dishonorable, insubordinate and against principle and good morale.

If the military just allowed gays to serve, Rush could have been the warrior he always pretends to be.

That is always the best come-back and always cements the final block of an arguement: Call someone gay.

BTW, is that an insult to call someone gay, Northguy? How very un-enlightened of you.

List of Public Resisters from within the U.S. Military

Agustin Aguayo
Darrell Anderson
Jonathan Barriga*
Kevin Benderman
Dale Bertell
Preston Betts
Michael Blake
Ivan Brobeck
David Bunt
Joshua Casteel
Diedra Cobb
Justin Colby*
Cliff Cornell*
Chas Davis
Aidan Delgado
Joshua Despain
Jessica Faustner
Dan Felushko*
Stephen Funk
Corey Glass
Chris Harrison
Patrick Hart*
Abdul Henderson
Jeremy Hinzman*
Brandon Hughey*
Katherine Jashinski
Terri Johnson
Ryan Johnson*
Joshua Key*
Ghanim Khalil
Christian Kjar*
Joel Klimkewicz
Kevin Lee
Blake LeMoine
Robin Long*
Matt Lowell
Neil Quentin Lucas*
Christopher Magaoay*
Corey D. Martin
Jimmy Massey
Melanie McPherson
Camilo Mejia
Linjamin Mull
Perry O'Brien
Pablo Paredes
Tim Richard
Eric Riley
Kimberly Rivera
David Sanders*
Kyle Snyder*
Michael Sudbury
Suzanne Swift
Chris Teske
Wilfredo Torres
Hart Viges
Dean Walcott
Ehren Watada*
Carl Webb
Abdulla Webster
Mark Wilkerson
Robert Zabala

Above in alphabetical order.

Names with * indicate they are presently in legal jeopardy, or currently incarcerated, see these stories to see how you can help. Multiple resisters listed on each page.

For retired Brig. Gen. John Johns, the decision to finally stand up against the administration was a deeply personal one.

"My wife lost her first husband in Vietnam," said Johns, who taught leadership and ethics at West Point.

"To learn later that President Lyndon Johnson and (then-Secretary of Defense) Robert McNamara knew as early as 1965 that we could not win there, that hurts her deeply to this day."

Six months before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Johns, who retired in 1978, agonized over whether to go public with a paper calling the impending war "one of the great blunders of history."

Chanan Suarez Daz was deployed to Iraq in September 2005. He returned to the US after being wounded in February 2006, and later become active in the anti-war movement, joining Iraq Veterans Against the War. Here we reprint edited excerpts of an interview

"I remember talking to guys before the last deployment who were still pro-Bush, and right after the deployment, a lot of the same guys were completely against Bush, and they didn't agree with the war. But they didn't know what they could do.

People are pissed off in the ranks. I have two friends who are stationed in western Iraq, and they've been there over seven months. The day after Bush proposed the surge of 21,500 additional troops, I got an email saying how they were just cussing out the president. Their tour has been extended three months.

The longer this war gets, the more people are going to rebel within the military, and there will be more people deserting, going AWOL and filing for conscientious objector status.

At the beginning, people thought the war was for freedom, but as time goes by, they realise it's not about that. The soldiers and Marines are going over there with one idea to come back home alive."

Names with * indicate they are presently in legal jeopardy, or currently incarcerated, see these stories to see how you can help. Multiple resisters listed on each page.

Why would we help someone who broke the law? I'm sure none are incarcerated for simply resisting. Maybe for being AWOL, rape, or other crimes, but not resisting.

And if they are incarcerated for simply resisting (and nothing else) there will be a million leftist lawyers lining up to defend them pro bono.

I'll keep my money in my pocket, thank you.

AU lists ...

Thanks, AU. Not too many petty traitors, after all. Actually, a rather small minority of those willing to sell their honor for yellow-dog gangsterism. I'm encouraged by the small numbers of these small, phony soldiers.

TADOWE

We're sorry you're an angry, lonely, bitter old man.

Votes?! You think this is about VOTES?

LMAO !!

How about SAVING LIVES? How about REALLY SUPPORTING THE TROOPS!! Their CiC is a moron. You don't care. You want as many U.S. troops to die as possible.

Subversive/Traitor is what you are !!

However, even the edited clip Limbaugh played showed that his discussion of Jesse MacBeth came after his "phony soldiers" comment during the show that day."

THIS METHOD is exactly how Limbaugh lies day after day to the lemmings who listen to him. Limbaugh -- listen carefully now Bushtoadies -- edits everything so that he can LIE BY OMISSION.

He constantly takes a soundbite and chops it up (and leaves out the rest of the sentence) in order to completely take it out of context. That is just as much of a lie and just as deceiving as to out right lie.

Limbaugh the liar did this exact thing two days ago right after the Democrat debate with a clip of John Edwards re bringing home our troops from Iraq. I happened to catch part of the Dem debate and heard Edwards answer in its entirety. The next day (my radio having been left on KFI from thne night before) babbled into Rush's show the next day and that's when I heard him LIE AGAIN by paying only FOUR WORDS from Edwards' answer in the debate and making an entire lie out of those 4 words to twist what Edwards had to say.

Scarier to me is not some well paid-off thug GOP mouthpiece but the (how can I put this politely) continually unenlightened Republican lemming hee-haws that get their entire knowledge of world thru intentionally-edited GOP soundbites and accept it as God's truth.

CHRIS

How'd you like my TadOwe impression above at 3:50? LOL I've listed literally hundreds of 'phony soldiers' who ACTUALLY fought in Iraq - boils or no boils.

TadOwe HATES our troops and wants as many to die as possible under the failed leadership of a moron CiC!!

Subversive/Traitor NeoCon/Facist Rightist/Lunatist

LOL

Chris says, "THIS METHOD is exactly how Limbaugh lies day after day to the lemmings who listen to him. Limbaugh -- listen carefully now Bushtoadies -- edits everything so that he can LIE BY OMISSION."

Chris, I know you have the mental power to resist the hypnotic attack of the Limbaugh-likes. So, I wonder at your apparent fear to read the transcript, or to actually listen to the WHOLE clip that is present on the site -- for free -- no charge?

Why are you afraid? Even if you hear the actual context and understand what was being said, at the time ... you don't have to come here and confess what you heard! No one would twist your arm!

Otherwise, I must assume that you are so unsure of your ideology, that you would imagine it destroyed by finding out that Limbaugh did not call all soldiers phony who disagreed with the war. That this is just another effort of the Leftist/Democratics to destroy those who disagree with them ... like the tyrants you try and make Bush out to be ...

Would facing your party hypocrisy destroy you like that?

(Long angry TadOwe response being typed right now - guaranteed. Well, unless it's dinnertime at the 'home')

flush limpdick of the asspimple calling a Decorated Combat Vet phony?
And tad(the)polesmoker sucks it right up?
No surprise there!

Tell ya wot taddy-boy.....

when ya think about posting-just post a blank-we'll all be able to fill in what you really mean because of all the hatred you spew for anyone to the left of flush rimjob.
You-child-are a partisan hack-you have no thoughts of your own-you just cut&paste limpdick's and any rethuglickin's comments on anything.
Most of us on the left don't worry about what the party thinks-we think for ourselves-that's why the party has had sooo much trouble getting anywhere with us.

Would facing your party hypocrisy destroy you like that?

Chris, I know you have the mental power to resist the hypnotic attack of the Limbaugh-likes. So, I wonder at your apparent fear to read the transcript, or to actually listen to the WHOLE clip that is present on the site -- for free -- no charge?

Why are you afraid? Even if you hear the actual context and understand what was being said, at the time ... you don't have to come here and confess what you heard! No one would twist your arm!

Would facing your party hypocrisy destroy you like that?

Posted by tadowe at 2007-09-30 04:00 PM | Reply


TADDEAF -- I have told you many times I am not a Democrat, I am a registered independent (small "i" so as not to confuse you with thinking it's the Independent party). I am loyal only to my country -- not to any political party.

I will listen to the tape in its entirely within the hour. I am well aware that even Rush -- the MASTER of lying by omission and editing -- can be a victim of his own game. I will give you my opinion -- later.

Yes it would Chris-he's sooo thoroughly deluded-his entire ego is sooo invested in that world view-is soo tied up in the "infallibility" of the neo-cons-I don't think his personality could take it if he ever faced the real truth........

AU claims, "TadOwe HATES our troops ..."

I am actually thrilled by statements like this, AU! It is exactly the claim being made against Limbaugh, right now!

And, it is just as much of a blatant lie as the clowns in the DNC and congress make who try and say that Limbaugh hates the military -- one of the most respected talk show hosts EVER on Armed Forces Radio!

They know the gangsters for the liars they are and will also know the real merit of those who use the federal government to attack an individual for using their free speech ... the party who USE their power to revile and defame for partisan gain!

... as the subversive vermin of the Leftist/Democratic party do, routinely, in their unprincipled, immoral "platform" of goosestepping agreement!

'We actually like and respect the military by calling them murderers, rapists, baby killers and fascist torturers, while that hate-filled Limbaugh is a liar when he says he respects the military. He actually says this:"

I ... phony soldiers ...

Yeah, you are such convincing liars that America is going to believe this! Use our government and our rules of law to attack radio talk show hosts ... how patriotic and supportive of America can you Leftist/Democratics get ... how about another attack on some Christians in support of human sacrifice -- burn a few rightwing children to Moloch and Progressiveness???

"Chris says, "THIS METHOD is exactly how Limbaugh lies day after day to the lemmings who listen to him. Limbaugh -- listen carefully now Bushtoadies -- edits everything so that he can LIE BY OMISSION." "

TAD do you understand E-N-G-L-I-S-H ?

Rush E-D-I-T-I-E-D the Transcript !!

Rush O-M-I-T-T-E-D The Clip of it's Full C-O-N-T-E-N-T !!!

"Excised from the clip was a full 1 minute and 35 seconds of the 1:50 discussion that occurred between Limbaugh's original "phony soldiers" comment and his reference to MacBeth, the full audio of which can be heard here. However, even the edited clip Limbaugh played showed that his discussion of Jesse MacBeth came after his "phony soldiers" comment during the show that day."


-Sarge

Chris whines, "... I have told you many times I am not a Democrat..."

Listen! I've told you before that I don't care what party or lack thereof you claim! I use the inclusive term Leftist/Democratic ... and that's what you are; dupe or stooge.

"I will listen to the tape in its entirely within the hour. I am well aware that even Rush -- the MASTER of lying by omission and editing -- can be a victim of his own game. I will give you my opinion -- later."

Also, I don't care if you listen to it, or not! I really don't expect to enlighten any of you who correspond in collective agreement, here. You are brainwashed, as you claim others to be. Not reading, or hearing for yourself is just a symptom of your derangement. One you project as being a fault of those you attempt to belittle and demean.

It is an intellectual exercise in support of principle that is the reason I post here. To directly describe the calumny, cowardice and caviling idiocy of partisan subversives who lie as a practice to gain advantage -- an ends-justify-the-means philosophy used so excruciatingly well by the NAZI during their socialist control of Germany ...

You, personally, can go str8 to hell ... you'll never be any friend of mine, or any of your ilk of whatever party or lack thereof that is claimed ...

Got that?

TadOwe

"... as the subversive vermin of the Rightist/NeoConist party do, routinely, in their unprincipled, immoral "platform" of goosestepping agreement!"

Perfect

You-child-are a partisan hack-you have no thoughts of your own-you just cut&paste limpdick's and any rethuglickin's comments on anything.

Posted by frankf55 at 2007-09-30 04:01 PM

Frank, in all fairness, I've never seen a post from you that doesn't toe the party line as well. It's just a different party.

You say:

Most of us on the left don't worry about what the party thinks-we think for ourselves-that's why the party has had sooo much trouble getting anywhere with us.

Couldn't someone on the right make the same claim? Or is this attribute strictly a liberal one?

So how is it Tad is a partisian hack, but you're not? I don't see the distinction between you two except y'all being at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Listen, Sarge, you only fool yourself. Anyone who has looked at the site more than 5 minutes knows that the entire show archives are available -- that clips are just the pertinent part that can be confirmed by listening to the entire show.

Free of ads btw, something the mainstream insists you suffer through on their internet sites...

Goat spins to the left, "So how is it Tad is a partisian hack, but you're not? I don't see the distinction between you two except y'all being at opposite ends of the political spectrum."

My comments aren't in support of party, Goat, so why do you call me a partisan hack? Have I called you some name, and you're getting even? Do you have some blossoming obsession with me for some reason?

I know, none of us are really all that careful in analyzing the things we read ... so my contradiction of Leftist/Democratic lies and efforts to subvert the success of the United States, in order to "get" Bush/Republicans, is translated simply (any pejorative inference you see in that is meant) into being a rightwing Republican hack for party.

No, sorry, but my hate for treason is non-partisan and I attack it wherever I find it. It is a loyalty to country ... not party. Your effort to make me the subject of your "hack" attack must be personally motivated, eh? Since, you aren't the anti-patriotic traitor who wants to lose this war for votes, right? So ... how is it that you have become so ... so ... impressed, eh?

Goat,

See TAD is pulling a Rush on you, you say something he does not agree with you are called out "SPINNING TO THE LEFT", just like Rush does to Military members who do not "Carry His Water" become "Phony Soldiers" !!!

-Sarge

Sarge makes excuses, "That Is Why He Edited It, Duh !!"

No, it was edited to place the entire comment in context, but not the irrelevant parts of the show before or after that doesn't add to the facts under discussion. It is done to assist a busy viewing public, not to dupe them, and since they can listen to the entire program if they have doubts and want the truth.

I said "Free of ads btw, something the mainstream insists you suffer through on their internet sites..."

"You Tool You Have To Pay To Join, That Is The Reason No Ads, Damn !"

You can join the site without paying anything at all and get a daily show update, or not! But, it is typical for your ilk to claim your expostulations as the truth when you don't have a clue!

Just like silly children who capitalize the first letter of every word they write -- like some gradeschool girl with little hearts to dot their "I's".

You really are a cutey, Sarge.

My comments aren't in support of party, Goat, so why do you call me a partisan hack?

I didn't. It was frank in his 4:01 post. I never did.

You need to keep up with the thread before you make accusations, Tad.

Sarge schmoozes, "See TAD is pulling a Rush on you, you say something he does not agree with you are called out "SPINNING TO THE LEFT" ..."

Well, not actually, and since I was mentioning the effort to get personal and to make me the subject of derogatory comments and rather than addressing the various points of discussion. That practice by the Leftist/Democratics being used against disagreement, now.

The Limbaugh issue is a perfect example, and in the same way that I am a "hack", Rush is a "hack", also. Not that I am in any way as much of one as Rush happens to be, certainly! He isn't defending Republicans, even if he fails to attack them, much, which he does on occasion. He is rather answering Leftist/Democratics, and he also is surprised when those who are otherwise conservatives, attack his assertions or opinions.

I'm not the reverse example of whoever Goat was so gracious in comparing me to ... an anarchist radical or reactionary is that animal! Yet, Goat, got personal to that hyperbolic degree ...!

I'll guess he has some ulterior motive for doing so ... probably because he wants to evolve into agreeing that this war is lost, a failure and we should withdraw ... even if it means the loss of freedom and democracy for millions; as well as whatever thousands of lives are lost in reprisal for USA abandonment of principle and honor ...

I hope I'm wrong though ... we'll see ...

Yet, Goat, got personal to that hyperbolic degree ...!


Where did I get personal, Tad? I guess you either selectively read posts, or you hope that somehow your mistaken attribution of a quote to me will somehow evaporate if you keep citing me as the author.

Read the thread again, starting at 4:01. That is if you want to know your error.

Goat says, "Where did I get personal, Tad?"

Wait! I must be very, very bad to think that this was getting personal:

"So how is it Tad is a partisian hack, but you're not?"

If he is not a partisan hack, then neither would I be one? What is the alternative? I am a hack as well as he is one?

"... I don't see the distinction between you two except y'all being at opposite ends of the political spectrum."

A reactionary hack is one end of the spectrum, and its opposite being a radical hack. You don't see any distinction between we two, except our opposite hackness.

"I guess you either selectively read posts, or you hope that somehow your mistaken attribution of a quote to me will somehow evaporate if you keep citing me as the author."

I really have to laugh at this.

"Read the thread again, starting at 4:01. That is if you want to know your error."

My status is as a bete noire to Leftist/Democratics. I'm a hack to them ... and apparently to you, too.

"So how is it Tad is a partisian hack, but you're not?"

That was a quote from Frank at 4:01 (for the third time) Are really that dense or are you trolling?

My status is as a bete noire to Leftist/Democratics. I'm a hack to them ... and apparently to you, too.

More like bete ignarus

Goat repeats, "That was a quote from Frank at 4:01 (for the third time) Are really that dense or are you trolling?"

Here is what Frank said at 4:01: "You-child-are a partisan hack-you have no thoughts of your own-you just cut&paste limpdick's and any rethuglickin's comments on anything."

Here is the first part of your reply (also a repeat due to your lack of reading comprehension):

"So how is it Tad is a partisian hack, but you're not?"

Is Frank a partisan hack, Goat? Aren't you presenting the impression that I am as much of a partisan hack as Frank might be in his commentary?

Of course you are! You confirm it with this, second part, of your "question" about hacks:

""... I don't see the distinction between you two except y'all being at opposite ends of the political spectrum."

Is Frank a radical hack, Goat? Am I a reactionary hack, Goat? Say!?! Maybe it is you who can't quite grasp the meaning of what you, yourself write!???

Is that it? Are you actually that much of a cement-for-brains?

"More like bete ignarus"

Yep, you've got the Jones, boy ...

Limbaugh: Murtha's a Phony Soldier Too

I don't think Murtha is a "phony" soldier but he has a lot of explaining to do for denying the soldiers at haditha the presumption of immocence and calling them "war criminals" . They were later exonerated. At the very least he owes every soldier an apology. He should be given a formal censure or reprimand by the House. And I hope that those soldiers sue the pants off him for defamation.

You are right, of course, Tad

Bowa

Link to this exoneration?

Tadowe

You are a partisan hack. How can you even feign outrage at the charge? Bush could kill your whole family, cut off your arms and legs, set you on fire and shoot your dog and you would still suck his balls for the sweat.

Why did I bother listing hundreds of Iraq War veterans (including General officers) who are opposed to the war?

The only 'phony' is Limpbaw - the guy who used a boil to avoid the draft.

"He should be given a formal censure or reprimand by the House."

Say, Goat, how about this one? Am I as much of a hack as this Leftist/Democratic yearning for a neo-McCarthyism to use the power of government to attack and destroy individual Americans who practice their freedom of speech?

Maybe you could use me as your scapegoat to underline just how vicious and evil they are in their tyrannical desires ... or get on their good-side in hopes of converting them to the *CENTER*!???

Is that it? Do you have some desire to convince the brainwashed of the errors of their way ... along with reactionaries like me; just another example of American rightwing hackness, as they represent the leftwing hackery?
"You are right ..."

Go patronize someone who has some respect for your callow elitism.

TadOwd

Pssst.....

Dale Carnagie - "How to Win Friends and Influence People"

BB crows, "You are a partisan hack. How can you even feign outrage at the charge?"

I don't care, and you know that! Goat got irresponsible with his accusations, and I enjoy underlining mistakes that invoke my name in such commentary. It allows me to express my disdain for such tactics, and I really do appreciate the unconscious examples presented for me to do so!

You are a pip of such an unconscious urge to reveal your idiocy in that way, crabwalking your debate in neurotic circles!

"Bush could kill your whole family, cut off your arms and legs, set you on fire and shoot your dog and you would still suck his balls for the sweat."

Yeah, I'm the hack all right ...

Yeah, I'm the hack all right ...

Yes, but more acutely, a raving fucking lunatic. I think we can all agree to that.

Goatman,

Taddy boy pretty much hates everyone who isn't Taddy Boy.

Your crime, sin if you will, in the book of Tadowe is two fold. First you seek reason, and Tadowe doesn't see objective reason, his deeply held beliefs about America and Americans must not ever be challenged. To do so makes you a subversive traitor.

The second sin is deigning to speak with we, the leftist/democratics in a civil manner. That automatically makes you on of us and despite your claims to the contrary, in Tadowe's eyes, you will always be categorized as an interloper in Tadowe's world. Regardless of how reasonable you are, he will always denigrate you because of your rationality and your fraternization with the enemies of America.

It's a shame, because I hear he's a laugh riot at Funerals.

Dale Carnagie-


If you cannot even spell his name then how do you expect to win friends based on it?

Posted by travsdog

Typo. Carnegie. OK? You're off my 'friends' list LOL

I did read the book when I was 18.

Taddy Boy is just a crabby old man that should have itching powder placed in His Depends. I really wished I knew if He ever gets Laid I'd reckon that would perk Him up way too much and He would explode.

Total
Ass
Devoid
Of
Worthwhile
Enlightenments.


Larry

Hey, Trees!

I was wanting to share my meal tonight. Glad you are here.

Loved the Tad analysis BTW. Sounds about right.

My sister and brother in law will be here about 6:00. I have some lamb chops with olive oil and fresh rosemary in the fridge now. I will cook them on the grill. To go with, some roasted garlic and jalapeno mashed potatoes, baby carrots and sugar peas (I love those) in butter, and spring greens with a sesame salad dressing.
The wine is a Paso Robles Cab, "Wild Horse" 2005

For dessert Bananas Foster.

I don't have long before they are here. A couple of more posts, then I'm off line for a while.

Hiya Goatman!

Dinner sounds amazing!

The shark was a bust so I wound up doing the scallops and mussels...both were wonderful!

I've been toying around with trying some lamb..may have to give it a go around my birthday in October.

I'm making the veggie beef stew when I get home from work tonight...I'm looking forward to it, I love that dish!

Gonna do an old fashioned roast tomorrow with quarted baked baby red potatoes and a sweet pepper/mango salad.

I'll be off line till Tuesday or Wed...when ever my new service is connected at home. Finally kicked Time Warner out of my house so I am without internet at home.

Have a GREAT dinner!

Send a bowser bag to California.
Are all you Texans such great cooks?

Are all you Texans such great cooks?

Just the good looking ones. *grin*

Where does Limbo let the balls to be a critic of someone elses war record? He never served and never tried to serve. It's not like he volunteered and was rejected. He avoided the draft because of , get this, a boil on his ass! Outside of his radio show if you didn't know Limbo his resume would read something like this: fired from his job at least 8 times, never finished college, divorced what 3 or 4 times, convicted of illegally obtaining prescription pain pills and presently on probation. This guy is on the air pumping up the dumb asses that can't think for themselves and cheerfully sending their flesh and blood to fight for oil and Limbos stock portfolio along with the other neocons.

I think I said yesterday, I never liked shark. I guess I never figured out how to do it right. But don't worry about the bust. The mussels and scallops made up for it, I'm sure.

I almost did a "sunday dinner" style roast today, but that lamb stew from last week left a taste in my mouth and I stayed with it.

The pepper mango salad: sounds yummy! I do a mango salsa with hot peppers (chiles for us Texans) and cilantro. Goes great with smoked pork tenderloin.

I'm lucky they have good food on the rig because I am headed back out there Wednesday. It is different from what I cook, but it is still good.

Hope I'net comes back up without a hitch.

"Are all you Texans such great cooks?"

Posted by CalifChris


Of course.
You should try my roadkill chili.

Send a bowser bag to California.
Are all you Texans such great cooks?

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-09-30 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I promise my chili can kill yours, Zat.

As Frank X Tolbert said of the perfect chili:

Take your favorite chili recipe and leave out all but 3 ingredients

I'm paraphrasing, but it is the best advice for a good chili. A good chili cook knows what to do with those three ingredients.

Wick Fowler was a friend of mine.

Don't get uppity.

Where are my dinner guests? Coals are going to burn down!

phone rings as I push the post button.

"We're on our way". Sisters can get by with being late and she knows that.

Here's 10 pages of Iraq War Veterans speaking out against the war

OK, I've posted to what amount to hundreds of Generals, Officers, and enlisted Iraq Vets against the Iraq War.

Come on righties. Let's hear how they're ALL 'phony soldiers'.

LMAO !!

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

* * * *

Actually, it looks like about 90 or so--9 pages of about 10 troops each. Not exactly Vietnam, eh? But hey! Look at the bright side!! They always need guys like you to count up the people showing up at so-called "Million-Man Marches", antiwar rallies, and pro-choice demonstations.

"425, 426, 427,428 . . . what do you say we just round it up to 15,000, and go get a beer?"

Wick Fowler was a friend of mine

My mother's maiden name is Gebhardt. But I don't ruin my chili with his powder. I make my own seasoning -- all the way from smoking the chilis myself and crushing the whole cumin.

It takes me two full days and an open fire to make a decent chili.

"My mother's maiden name is Gebhardt."

Cool

I'm a namesake of Wick's opponent at Terlingua.

Wick's been dead for years, his son Gordon (married to Marcia Ball for a while, owned La Zona Rosa) sold the product to some mega corp years ago.

Ever had Eggs Decorated at the Frisco Shop?
Definitely one of my favorite chili breakfasts.

"two full days and an open fire"

And your point is?

Ever had Eggs Decorated at the Frisco Shop?
Definitely one of my favorite chili breakfasts.

No, but I make a killer Huevos Rancheros. It's always the request from my overnight guests.

""We're on our way". Sisters can get by with being late and she knows that."

Posted by goatman

You sound like my son talking about my daughter.
About the same age.
Bon appetite.

"Just the good looking ones. *grin*"

Posted by goatman


No wonder your sister's late.
Had to stop at Sonic.

Marcia Ball the blues singer? Cool.

Goatman likes this analysis of his new obsession, by Trees, an old addict, "Taddy boy pretty much hates everyone who isn't Taddy Boy."

I'm a hack and a hater, right, Goat?

"Your crime, sin if you will, in the book of Tadowe is two fold. First you seek reason, and Tadowe doesn't see objective reason, his deeply held beliefs about America and Americans must not ever be challenged. To do so makes you a subversive traitor. "

My belief, if you will, is in the justice of freeing millions from repression and the fear of genocide (save your stupid arguments about genocide being abour race, alone). I agreed that Saddam should be removed for his tyranny and threat of WMD (save your stupid excuses about no WMD) and to his Arab neighbors. The USA has ended the threat of WMD, the threat of genocide, and provided a chance for democracy and a civilized way of life that is safe from such repression.

All of America has done that, despite the screaming, yelling and efforts to sabotage victory in Iraq. Those who attack me, attack disagreement with Leftist/Democratics who can't stand that sort of highlighting of their calumny and subversions to gain partisan advantage for just some Americans ... not all.

"The second sin is deigning to speak with we, the leftist/democratics in a civil manner."

Too funny, and since I've only discussed Goat's efforts to hold me up to ridicule, and his evolving agreement with the need to abandon millions of Iraqis to the victory of Islamic human sacrifice to rule the ME, and the fear and repression that would inflict on those who trust in our protection.

The Leftist/Democratics don't want a victory for the USA in fighting al Qaeda and others who use terrorism. In their partisan, blinkered concept of reality, that would also mean a victory for Bush and Republicans and a loss for them. So, they attack Bush and Republicans by supporting the idea that we should lose this fight, or that it is already lost, in order to defeat their hated opponent, and even if it means a loss for all the United States. What a scummy, traitorous attitude to have --- reminds me of the ends-justify-the-means practice used by our enemy in WWII ...

" That automatically makes you on of us and despite your claims to the contrary, in Tadowe's eyes, you will always be categorized as an interloper in Tadowe's world. Regardless of how reasonable you are, he will always denigrate you because of your rationality and your fraternization with the enemies of America."

You sure can describe yourselves ... I'll give you that! How very freudian for you to do it for me ... to so blithely put words of self-description in my mouth for me ...

"It's a shame, because I hear he's a laugh riot at Funerals."

Well, Goat? What was the best part you liked about Trees description of me? BTW, I can't tell you how much I also enjoy your unconscious efforts to describe me as the subject to attack, and to schmooze agreement with others in that effort ... I know you now know how much I respect such activity.

I am pretty sure now you will be in complete agreement with Leftist/Democratic efforts to subvert the success of this war and that rightwing 'hack haters' like me will be your subject to revile and dismiss as ignorasus of one sort or another ...

Violating my very recent promise, I'll boil down Tad's ideas regarding the opinions of soldiers on war for him:

Since this most political of opinions is by definition going to be a partisan point for someone-----You can never, ever state anything about it, whether in the service or long out of it.

Unless, of course, the opinion is pro-war---In which case the worry about partisanship vanishes, as it is Tad's views that are supported.

Now, Tad will now type five pages telling us why this is arrant nonsense, and then type five more agreeing with me entirely.

"Leftist/Democrat efforts to subvert this war...."

As Tad knows, I've long argued that Bush attempts to subvert his own war. Now, that's a weird idea until you realize there are about one-hundred people getting richer than Croesus because of his FUBARS.

Zed- you boiled it down. Now try this:

If a poster agrees with Tad's position they are attempting to schmooze him. If someone NOT in contact with Tadowe agrees with his position they are patriots.

If either of the two above groups disagree they are subversives/leftists/
democrats/traitors.

It's that simple.

Well, Goat? What was the best part you liked about Trees description of me? BTW, I can't tell you how much I also enjoy your unconscious efforts to describe me as the subject to attack, and to schmooze agreement with others in that effort ... I know you now know how much I respect such activity.

I am pretty sure now you will be in complete agreement with Leftist/Democratic efforts to subvert the success of this war and that rightwing 'hack haters' like me will be your subject to revile and dismiss as ignorasus of one sort or another ...

Posted by tadowe at 2007-09-30 08:52 PM | Reply | Flag:Hysterical

AND CA Chris--

You better change your Independent status before the primary--or you will be forced to vote for someone you never heard of.

If you are an independent--unless you want to vote for one--you are forced to vote for someone on their list--you don't get to choose Dem or Repub--you get the "I" list.

Just so you know.

Murphy

Posted by MURPHY at 2007-09-30 09:24 PM

Yes, Murphy, thanks. I was aware of that about not being able to vote in the primaries. But I'm going to stick with being a registered independent. That only applies to the primaries, though. I can vote for whomever I want in the main election as a registered independent.

Tadowe is so fun not to read now, I just skip over his posts because they say nothing, just jibbering and double talking anecdotes.

fucking funny, why is limbaugh in the news for the DEMOCRATS?

Each debate is getting worse and worse, nothing but Iraq war questions.

Hey DNC, you have answered them all, move on to other things or just keep posting limbaugh crap and get your ass whipped.

Send a bowser bag to California.
Are all you Texans such great cooks?

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-09-30 06:55 PM

Tree,

Can you wear a push up?

...but I make a killer Huevos Rancheros. It's always the request from my overnight guests.

Posted by goatman at 2007-09-30 07:31 PM | Reply

Tree,

Can you wear a push up?

Posted by moneywar at 2007-09-30 09:58 PM |

Can Moneywar drink thru a straw when Trees breaks your jaw for asking - *grin*

Moneywar gets jejune, "Tadowe is so fun not to read now, I just skip over his posts because they say nothing, just jibbering and double talking anecdotes."

I am important enough for you to deny reading my commentary, but you won't understand that, because you are in denial. Better if you had just been direct and said, "Just don't read the curmudgeon."

Otherwise you are acting out like some sophomore who thinks that claiming to be a Democrat or Republican (even and independent), in order to play at being a stalking horse, is suave, rather than reality being trite and callow.

Thanks LimpBlob, each and every word helping to ensure a GOP free WH.

We all LOVE Tadowe -- there -- happy now?

He is making money hand over fist from you whining subversives, of that there is no doubt, whatsoever!

Posted by tadowe at 2007-09-30 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag

"subversives"

BOOGA! BOOGA! BOOGA!

Tree,

Can you wear a push up?

Posted by moneywar at 2007-09-30 09:58 PM |

Can Moneywar drink thru a straw when Trees breaks your jaw for asking - *grin*

Pushups. FF trees

RightIsRight

My point was that there are hundreds if not thousands of veterans of Iraq who are opposed to the war and are hardly 'phony soldiers'.

I happen to know a couple myself.

But, please mince words and pretend that Republican generals who resigned to speak out don't count as American voices in opposition to the war and the administration's handling of it. That they're somehow 'phony soldiers'.

How many 'real soldiers' has Rush Limpbaw recruited to go to Iraq? We're running so short guys are on their 3rd combat now 15 month tours, there are tens of thousands of 'private contractors', and even the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is opposed to the 'surge' strategy and worries that Iraq has left us vulnerable to fight any other conflicts that may arise and the current military stretched to the breaking point.

How was dinner, Goatman?

-rather than reality being trite and callow.

You should listen to him.

Not many people know trite and callow quite as intimitely as Turdowe.

Good. But my sister and her family got here so late the coals were too far gone and I had to pan fry the lamb chops inside. But they were still good.

Paso Robles "wild horse" 2005 isn't the best cabernet I've ever had though. It worked, but I've had better.

I got so lazy that I'm leaving the dishes until tomorrow and I am in bed with the laptop. I've only done that once before. That's lazy.

I got so lazy that I'm leaving the dishes until tomorrow and I am in bed with the laptop. I've only done that once before. That's lazy.

Posted by goatman at 2007-09-30 11:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now we have that fat bastard "HANS" aka boyd/badweek/cooper to bless us with his presence...ack..ack...fuck us..

Posted by OncologyRN at 2007-09-30 11:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've come to realize that a number of people don't realize that actual cooking is work. Preparing a good meal can take hours.

I guess I should be honest. It is probably as much the wine and margueritas as exhaustion from cooking. *grin*

I got so lazy that I'm leaving the dishes until tomorrow and I am in bed with the laptop. I've only done that once before. That's lazy.

GOATMAN

Hey man, you're on vacation! :-)

Hey man, you're on vacation! :-)

For only three more days. *sigh*. That's why I'm saturating my body with alcohol these last few days. It'll have to tide me over for three more weeks.

I guess I should be honest. It is probably as much the wine and margueritas as exhaustion from cooking. *grin*

Posted by goatman at 2007-09-30 11:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

GOATMAN

You're getting sleepy....veeeeeeeeeeeeeery sleeeeeeeeeeeeepy

AU, Trees:

FF (and y'all are both right!)

If I could only get that blowjob being discussed on the other thread . . .

Girlfriend is in Fannin County, though. *sigh*

GOATMAN

Sounds like a trip to Fannin County is in order.......

Sounds like a trip to Fannin County is in order

350 miles away. Rosie Palmer and I can take care of business long before Fannin County appears in the headlights.

Rosie you're all right--you wear my ring/
When you hold me tight--Rosie that's my thing/
When you turnout the light--I've got to hand it to me/
Looks like it's me and you again tonight Rosie/

For only three more days. *sigh*.

Posted by goatman at 2007-09-30 11:51 PM |

That seemed to go fast. You just got your body clock regeared and now have to start all over again. So, Did Papa Goat get to see the new parents to be - your son and his wife? They must be excited.

If I could only get that blowjob being discussed on the other thread . .
Girlfriend is in Fannin County, though. *sigh*

Move her down to San Antonio. Meantime -- until she gets there -- be sure not to start tap tap tapping your toes in any strange places -- you might end up in big trouble *grin*

Murphy

If you are an independent--unless you want to vote for one--you are forced to vote for someone on their list--you don't get to choose Dem or Repub--you get the "I" list.

Even if I'm registered as an "independent" with a small "i"? I'm not registered with the actual Independent Party. They are two separate designations from what I understand.

GOATMAN

As vulnerable as you are right now by NO means think about those hot Latin chicks i posted a link to. BY NO MEANS THINK OF THOSE HOT LATIN BABES WITH THE FIRM INVITING TUSHES AND SULTRY LIPS....

LOL

Move her down to San Antonio.

Can't. Long story,

Meantime -- until she gets there -- be sure not to start tap tap tapping your toes in any strange places

LOL. I can guarantee that this joke will still be alive and well when I get back out to the rig and there will be a lot of jokes involving tapping. Some of those guys, though not gay, do some pretty outrageous things that your typical office cubicle commando would never dream of engaging in.

you're so funny, AU :)

:-)

Smiley face after thinking too much about HOT LATIN BABES:

8-)

(reading glasses)

After twice:

8-)

(Thicker reading glasses)

AU

Smiley face after thinking too much about HOT LATIN BABES:

I see your wife is obviously asleep now. Otherwise you'd probably have your keyboard broken over your head - *grin*

LOL

She likes my jokes.....

Rosie Palmer and I can take care of business

Well, at least make her some huevos rancheros in the morning *grin*

I'm watching 'The War' (Ken Burns)

Amazing series

OK. What was that site again? *grin*

Mmmm hot latin babes...

What? You thought I couldn't play too?

Too bad I can't play longer, headed home in a few. I'll be back hopefully by Tuesday.

OK. What was that site again? *grin*

Posted by goatman

LMAO !!! I'll look for it for ya in my posts

(cracking up badly here)

I'm watching 'The War' (Ken Burns)

Amazing series

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-10-01 12:33

Great isn't it.
I've got it on now too and it's going to rerun again tonight and rerun again for the next couple of nights.

Mmmm hot latin babes...

What? You thought I couldn't play too?

Too bad I can't play longer, headed home in a few. I'll be back hopefully by Tuesday.

Posted by TreesGoneWild at 2007-10-01 12:33

Trees -- type some hot sweet nothings into Goatman's ear -- maybe that will work

Well, at least make her some huevos rancheros in the morning

Well, Chris, aside from being pretty good in bed, she cooks for me too.

I've seen that one AU. That and the image of Rosie O'donnel in a sauna pretty much work as well as a dose of saltpeter. Thanks.

Trees -- type some hot sweet nothings into Goatman's ear -- maybe that will work

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-10-01 12:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Here Goatman --

GOATMAN

Miss 'Excuse My Beauty' should be a memory that you'll treasure out on the rig. If anyone gives you a hard time out there on the rig put them in the video in your mind LOL

I've seen that one AU. That and the image of Rosie O'donnel in a sauna pretty much work as well as a dose of saltpeter. Thanks.

Posted by goatman

I sent it to you on the rig. You sounded like you needed a downer in that regards LOL

Here Goatman --


Just think of yourself WITH HER -- that should work hahaha


(your oil rig's webfilter wouldn't let this one thru last time)

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-10-01 12:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Now that was nice!

Could be true.

Posted by TreesGoneWild at 2007-10-01 12:42 AM

I'm quite sure there are a lot of surprises on this blog that would surprise a lot of people.

I mean honestly for all you guys know I could be some Trucker named Duane with an unusually feminie timbre to my voice.

ACK! Don't do that to us, babe!

Wow, I had no idea that she had a Kid.

Posted by TreesGoneWild at 2007-10-01 12:46 AM

ff!

Figured Goatman would like that photo -- him being a goat, afterall.

ACK! Don't do that to us, babe!

Posted by goatman at 2007-10-01 12:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are Lisa L on that page?

YOu are right. You don't look like Duane.

Yuppers, that is me.

Not Duane. :)

GOATMAN

I was trying to find this pic a guy posted of a 600 woman wearing a thong sitting on a patio shot from behind to show you what Heidi Klum or whoever she is will look like in 10 years to discourage you from being attracted to a hot blonde model.

Probably better I didn't find that pic seeing how you ate recently and all

I'm hitting the rack. Nite you and TREES :-)

Probably better I didn't find that pic seeing how you ate recently and all

Yes. Thank you so much, AU!

I am on my way out the door.

Nice picture, Goatman!

See you all on Tuesday.

Cool Goatman

Nice to put a face to the man.....

Nite you all :-)

Buenas noches, amigo

Yes. Thank you so much, AU!

Posted by goatman

If you'd seen it it would have been 'Thank you so VERY much, AU!!!!!" LOL

Buenas Noches, Amigo back at ya man

Nice photos Trees and Goaman!

Goat -- I've just affixed your picture to a dartboard and every time you stick up for Bush and his policies ...

darts ->->->->->->->->-> straight for the BULLSEYE!

***double grin***

misspelled your name (Goaman)-- sorry about that

Goat -- I've just affixed your picture to a dartboard and every time you stick up for Bush and his policies ...

I'm sure you're not the only one! BUt I don't stick up for Bush and his policies -- at least most of them.

I'm sure you're not the only one! BUt I don't stick up for Bush and his policies -- at least most of them.

Posted by goatman at 2007-10-01 01:27 AM | Repl

I guess you missed this at the end of my comment:

***double grin***

as done when posted in "humor"?

Well, Chris, aside from being pretty good in bed, she cooks for me too.

Posted by goatman at 2007-10-01 12:40 AM |

Plus she never complains, talks too much, or spends all your money at the mall -- Rosie Palmer's a keeper!

My point was that there are hundreds if not thousands of veterans of Iraq who are opposed to the war and are hardly 'phony soldiers'. I happen to know a couple myself.


Posted by AMERICANUNITY
* * * *

That might very well be. There were thousands of troops disillusioned with island-hopping in the Pacific, or with the disastrous airborne campaigns in the ETO, or the retreat on the Phillipines. That was during the Second World War, one almost everyone now agrees was worth fighting. Want to get into the morale of the Union troops during the Civil War? How about Bosnia--I spent a lot of time there, just sitting on my ass, not doing anything that mattered at all. Ditto for the our missions to Africa during the 1990's, for which I've yet to meet the first person who thought we should be going there. Big deal.
We're in Iraq. We're at war in Iraq. So we have two choices. Fight and win, or withdraw. Or cut and run. Or, if you're really into Orwellian doublespeak, "redeploy". Personally, I don't think the United States will be successful at warfare until the Vietnam generation (Murtha, Kerry, Clinton, Bush) dies off. But hopefully this time it's different. There are no mass rallies, no giant demonstrations, and no websites listing tens of thousands of troops who oppose the war. You're the one who claimed you listed hundreds, but you didn't even break into triple digits. Not that you wouldn't get there, were you to spend some more time Googling, though.
So, we'll see.

Goat

Dart board jokes aside, nice photo you took. Sort of how I figured you -- except for the beard. But, then, when one is a goat...

also, curious, not being super internet savvy, what do people do with their "own domain"? I mean, what is the purpose of it if you already have email and stuff? Kind of a "home base" sort of thing to put up photos for family and friends or what?

If you go to my host page on Blog Talk Radio you can actually see the real me. Not hot, but not a trucker named Duane either.

Look if you dare.

Oh and not Latin either. ;p

Posted by TreesGoneWild at 2007-10-01 12:52 AM

Very nice picture, Trees. I heard you speak two weeks ago on Rev's show when he had Rcade on. Nice to see a photo and hear a voice to go with your posts on here. You and Goatman should get together and do a recipe section on your website. Teach us other folks how real cooks whip up dinner - *grin*

Everybody seems to have their own personal websites.
I shall remain domain-less.
I don't even know how to upload a picture or have the equipment to do it. Hell, I don't even have a cell phone. But my Dell 4600 keeps me content.

You know CC--just because you don't have a domain, doesn't mean you can't be the Master of Your Domain.

You know CC--just because you don't have a domain, doesn't mean you can't be the Master of Your Domain.

Posted by rightisright at 2007-10-01 03:24 AM

Funny, Mr. Seinfeld, funny *grin*

If you don't support this war then keep your mouth SHUT. Simple as that.

Hans joins the schmooze goons, "So, Tinkerbell was hated by those who knew him best: Soldiers who served with him. Talk about the need for combat pay!"

I had just arrived at the interrogation center 2 weeks before this incident. My commanding officer shouted, "What the f'uck you think you are, you hippy faggot! This prisoner you're trying to protect stole your radio! He deserves to have his bones broken, the gook prick!"

Yes, he hated my guts! Just like you and your ilk!

"Based on Tinkerbell's posts you would think that the real problem was that he was teased by his barracks mates because he had the smallest "little soldier" in the tent."

I like the "Tinkerbell" attempt to mock something I've said, like that officer, above, mocked my wanting to abide by rules and regulations in mentioning the Geneva Convention to him.

I've told in this forum how my native American forebears loved the metal bells the white man brought. They used them to protect against bear attacks, because the bears and other animals would avoid the noise made by them when they traveled through the woods. They also liked the sound and beat it made when they danced ...

I'm proud of that heritage, the common sense of my forefathers and the name "Tinkerbell" to celebrate it.

Thanks, Hans.

Stinkerbell, more like.

RiR

You're COMPLETELY missing the point, or choosing to That is, there are many active duty and 'retired' (some forcefully) personnel who do not support Iraq and are not 'phony soldiers'. That includes Generals who commanded divisions in Iraq.

We're in Iraq. We're at war in Iraq. So we have two choices. Fight and win, or withdraw. Or cut and run.

What do you mean "we" paleface? It's not a war; it's an occupation in case nobody noticed.

Losers of a feather stick together. Put a loser in the White House and there can be only one result.

I was a soldier, am I a "phony" one for wanting the USA to win in Iraq?

Everyone here knows I support this war, and I'm reviled and defammed, routinely -- daily that I post here! All the other soldiers and ex-soldiers who come here to support victory in Iraq, against the call for utter defeat and retreat by Leftist/Democratics, earns them instant opprobrium and hateful epithets much worse than "phony"!

Yet, here you are, pretending to defend soldiers, but only if they cry havoc along with the losing leftists and want defeat for the USA, in order to gain partisan political advantage for the gang of Democratics!

What a bunch of disgusting, hypocritical subversives you ends-justify-the-lies gang over nation curs just happen to be in your yellow-dogness ...

Ray declares, "Put a loser in the White House and there can be only one result..."

A ruined Cuban cigar? A stained dress? A bent prick; to the left?

TadOwe

It is because of the inept CiC that we're in the mess we're in.

They never planned for anything beyond 'chocolates and flowers'. they fired generals who told them things they didn't want to hear - things we know now would have averted a lot of this mess, like a large enough invasion force. We didn't invade Omaha Beach with 10,000 soldiers and 'hope for the best'. We went in with overwhelming force. Something recommended by the Army Chief of Staff yet disregarded. And he was forced into retirement for it rather than becoming the next Chairman Joint Chiefs - a position for which he was next in line.

You earned your right to support the war. OTHERS earned their right to be against it. How about allowing them THEIR opinions too big guy?

I was thinking of a retired military intelligence loser. Anybody you and I know?

MAD OL ME

TAKE YOUR MEDS!!!!

AU says, "It is because of the inept CiC that we're in the mess we're in."

We think with words, all our intelligence is based on the words and the associations we can make with them. So, it always amazes me that the intelligence displayed in transposing opinion into writing, is abandoned when partisanship takes over and the greed to 'win' an exclusive victory for party, at the expense of nation, becomes paramount.

In that instance, reason is useless against the belief and faith in party, and the false loyalty that engenders. At that time, partisanship allows the idea that party is more important than the nation. That victory for party power is more important than a victory for the nation against the enemy of all of us. The idea that it is justifiable, it is free speech, and even patriotic to attempt to lose in Iraq, if it means a win for Democratics...

"They never planned for anything beyond 'chocolates and flowers'."

This is an ignorant lie. You can't move a war into the ME, invade and depose a genocidal tyrant, assist the people of the land to conduct elections, choose a democratic constitution, gain a tentative freedom with almost universal suffrage, and fight to stave off terrorist attacks to stop freedom and democracy ... without plans. Only the real nutjobs make this claim and display their rank ignorance.

"... they fired generals who told them things they didn't want to hear ..."

Just more lies! No one was fired for that, and you know it! There is absolutely no sense in trying to explain anything to you, AU, but thanks for the chance to underline what a smart stooge you are for party over nation ... no doubt of your 'yellow-dog' status in faith ... your 'precious'...

TadOwe

Guess you missed the whole 'Shinseki' thing, eh?

MadOlMe

You on Kat?

Nobody is more of a phony than Rush Limbaugh. He has nothing to say. A big empty suit. How often does he really talk about what he believes in? He spends his entire show degrading "the other side," rather than explaining why he's (supposedly) a conservative.

Mad finds religion, "Yopo is a way of life. THE GOOD LIFE!!!!"

Yopo is one of the tryptamines, a short acting lightshow of 30 minutes, that takes 48 hours to recover from ...

Some people never have the experience again, except a "bummer" and the recovery part, even with increased dosages. DMT is more dependable and, or the trichocerus pachanoi is so readily available ...

As to your WW2 reference - men and women alike couldn't WAIT to sign up to do whatever they could. They lied about their age to enlist, ate 2 lbs of bananas to meet weight requirements.

In WW2, even FDR's son, James Roosevelt, fought with a Marine Special Forces Unit who saw a LOT of combat, as did all the sons of the privilleged.

THIS war is one where such little participation by the loudest advocates of it is stunning. Fine to rah rah Iraq, but not get their asses to the recruiting office to fight it. Oh, no no. Can't do that.

* * * * *

Well, you know that goes both ways. For all I hear about you guys wanting Jenna and Barbara to pick up a rifle and join the fighting, I don't recall too many lefty volunteers in Bosnia. Or Haiti. Or Zaire. Was Chelsea in another unit or something? How about the Kennedy generation?--they must've joined the Marines, I guess. For damn sure I would've heard about it were they in the Army during the 1990's. Fact is, life today makes it easy to advocate something, then not live it, vis a vis all the lefty hysteria on Global Warming which results in absolutely zero change in the way they actually live.
During the Civil War, tens of thousands of Union men got out of their obligation by paying someone else to take their place. Rotten, cowardly thing to do. So can we say that the Civil War wasn't worth fighting, just because of that fact? How about the hundreds of thousands of troops who came home as anti-war types?
That's the problem when you want to take an opinion poll of soldiers. As soon as the shooting starts, most of us want to just get home. Funny, though--you guys are all anxious to find out what this general said or this sergeant thinks about George Bush, but Al Gore shuffled his goons to Florida in 2000 to throw out every military absentee they could get their hands on.

Nobody is more of a phony than Rush Limbaugh. He has nothing to say. A big empty suit. How often does he really talk about what he believes in? He spends his entire show degrading "the other side," rather than explaining why he's (supposedly) a conservative.

Posted by cbob
* * *

I can't get over how many liberals listen to Rush Limbaugh.
Let me help out here, since you seem ignorant of something. You wanna know what Limbaugh does for a living? I'll give you a hint--it's the same as Oprah, the Today Show, and the cast of Gray's Anatomy. He's an entertainer. He sells advertising. And you liberals are his biggest demographic. You listen to him, just so you can get upset, then you come on here and cut-and-paste his every word. You think the people who put ads on his show care whether or not you agree with him, let alone like him?

AU spits some koolaid, "Guess you missed the whole 'Shinseki' thing, eh?"

Guess you missed that he wasn't fired, right? You believe the propaganda, and so you can play at being ignorant of the truth ...

Jackass is the perfect icon for your party of intransigence and proselying failure.

"Yes, he hated my guts! Just like you and your ilk!"

I am reminded of the old joke about why some husbands die before their wives...because they want to.

I think that old joke must apply to some wives as well.

Hans

Hans spins around, "I am reminded of the old joke about why some husbands die before their wives...because they want to. I think that old joke must apply to some wives as well.

I was the "joke" in my unit, Hans, and because I was a "goody two-shoes" nothing more than a "commie-pinko faggot" a "pussy" to use as a cat's paw in order for the commanding officer to avoid responsibility for standing in support of breaking bones to gain police information and to punish a thief.

Of course, being that kind of quixotic idiot, that incident wasn't the first time democratic agreement was used to mock and revile me. That happened from the 1st grade on ...

I'm an old, bald, hybrid who is used to the attentions of your ilk. You're like a pissant, pinche, little scumbag bully, in my book. I get a lot of enjoyment from having you and your kind demonstrate just how vicious a pack of yellow-dogs can be!

Really, Hans, thank you!

I can't get over how many liberals listen to Rush Limbaugh.

Unfortunately, he comes on the same radio station as a program I like to listen to some nights.

Other times, I listen for 10 or 20 minutes just to be sure nothing has changed about him. Same old rants for decades now.

"It's all THEIR fault. If only but for THEM we'd be hunky dorey"

Sure

RiR

So, the GOP did have TOTAL control for 6 years and made a huge mess of everything. Therefore, Rush's wish for the GOP to run the show being fulfilled left us heavily in debt, in a quagmire in iraq, and with the largest social program since the 60's. And they managed all that working 1 1/2 days a week when they were in session.

Uh huh

I said to him, "...you can't critize Rush if you never listened to him", but the problem with that is all you get is "blame" someone else or hate the libs. never any substance just bull pupu. it is amazing how many people believe bull pupu. his listeners have a vast lack of intellectual prowess.

I'm an old, bald, hybrid who is used to the attentions of your ilk. You're like a pissant, pinche, little scumbag bully, in my book. I get a lot of enjoyment from having you and your kind demonstrate just how vicious a pack of yellow-dogs can be!

Congratulations Hans on winning the Tadowe Award. This old, bald, hybrid won't settle for anything less than a complete humiliation and financial bankruptcy of the once free American Republic.

"Of course, being that kind of quixotic idiot, that incident wasn't the first time democratic agreement was used to mock and revile me. That happened from the 1st grade on ..."

Hated and reviled from the 1st grade on.

Hated and reviled in the service.

Hated and reviled around the Internet

"Now hear this, Taddy-boy. Ya done pissed me off! I tried to be polite and you went into troll mode. You became nothing more than a mosquito in need of swatting. Go ahead. Rejoin the Saloon. Make my day. You wanna be an ass? I really need some fun. Deleting your posts will be a pleasure, Don't bother posting this email because I am going to put it in the Saloon for you. It is time to stop feeding the trolls!"

That is the message I just sent to our resident troll at sandhi5@comcast.net and I am asking members to please stop feeding the troll. From here on out, if you see blank spots where Taddy's screeds should be, you will know Henrietta is merely chuckling as she wipes them out as Tad wastes his time posting them.

--Henrietta

Posted by RAMBO_IKE (Gold Member) (Ranked on Schmoozers (Yahoo) Ladder) on June 18, 2005 at 19:04:58:

In Reply to: Look Who's Obsessed! posted by tadowe (Gold Member) on June 18, 2005 at 05:30:38:

: : Seems our very own princess ("polly", if you prefer) is one the original trolls recorded. Indeed the actual term may actually have been penned in his benefit

I can't get over how many liberals listen to Rush Limbaugh.
Let me help out here, since you seem ignorant of something. You wanna know what Limbaugh does for a living? I'll give you a hint--it's the same as Oprah, the Today Show, and the cast of Gray's Anatomy. He's an entertainer. He sells advertising. And you liberals are his biggest demographic. You listen to him, just so you can get upset, then you come on here and cut-and-paste his every word. You think the people who put ads on his show care whether or not you agree with him, let alone like him?

Posted by rightisright at 2007-10-01 10:10 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

I'm well aware he's an entertainer, RiR. That's why I said he's "supposedly" a conservative. Because I'm not sure he really believes all the stuff he says. He just likes to rile people.

That doesn't mean he's not a complete ass.

I do listen to him occasionally (when I happen to be in the car around lunchtime) just to hear what he's ranting about. I like exposing myself to all sides and having my beliefs challenged. But with Rush it's always the same - the liberals are evil, the Democrats are corrupt. Instead of trying to inspire me to change my mind about something, he just insults me because I'm one of "them."

It's a shame, because sometimes I agree with the conservative viewpoint. But alas, Limbaugh offers no opportunity for accord. Intelligent debate isn't what he's all about. Instead, it's - as you put it - about selling advertising. Too bad more of his listeners don't get that, and instead, with every toxic broadcast they just get angrier and more hateful of people who might have a differing view.

Too bad more of his listeners don't get that, and instead, with every toxic broadcast they just get angrier and more hateful of people who might have a differing view.

Posted by cbob at 2007-10-01 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag


Have you ever listened to the cackling of Stephanie Miller and the two semi-men that are her cheerleaders? I can't think of one mainstream radio host on the left or the right that doesn't attempt to incite their followers.

Rush is more popular with listeners, and apparently the lefties are those listeners. Any given day you'll see a bunch of leftwingers quoting Rush or discussing that days show. I don't see anyone on the right, other than the guy with the kid in Iraq (the poster) talk about Rush's show.

Long story short, Murtha sold those Marines out and now he's getting sued over it. He will prevail due to some shitty rules, but he shouldn't, Murtha should be raked over the Coals for the way he "supported" his fellow Marines and our military in general.

What's worse, calling a politician a phony soldier, or publicly casting guilt on the Haditha marines before they'd even had a trial?

Murtha is a traitor, even if he used to be a good soldier.

Live or Die

Bush is a traitor. Murtha is an American Hero. Bush is an American coward. I can understand why Live or Die identifies with Bush. He hates America and freedom as much as Bush. Bush should be imprisoned next to Manson, and I bet Manson would make Bush his bitch--and Bush would like it between Jeff Gannon conjugal visits.

People who declare our marines guilty before their trials are heroic and somehow American. Elvis is alive and aliens abducted me when I was a child.

Signed,
Buffalo_Boob

to a right winger everyone is a traitor, it's but one proof of their stupidity. they all gather under a huge banner (the banner says "HATE")

Hate is not an American value (yes it is , to right wingers, read previous posts for proof)

Now we have that fat bastard "HANS" aka boyd/badweek/cooper to bless us with his presence...ack..ack...fuck us..

Posted by OncologyRN at 2007-09-30 11:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Malignant RN is back.

SO, are you going to answer that question from a few weeks ago? Remember your homophobic rant that just kept dribbling on?

I asked whether you treat your gay patients any differently and you ran for the hills. How about it? Are you going to answer the question?

Live or Die

Why do you support a chickenshit radio broadcaster who lied about a boil on his butt to keep out of Viet Nam?

Why do you support a Commander in Chief who make Limbaugh look like Audie Murphy?

It must be because you are just like them. Cowards who hate America and make their living off the blood of Americans in Iraq. Are you a contractor? Halliburton employee? Closeted homosexual?

Buffalo_Bob, why do you supporting accusing our marines of being guilty of crimes before they've been given a chance in court? Are you a closeted homosexual?

support*

Here's what Buffalo_Bob thinks of American soldiers.

You sucked the taxpayers for all you could get and now you still live like the parasite you are.

Blowing your horn about wearing a unifrom for 21 years for a country you hate is nothing to brag about.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-09-28 12:02 PM

Is it any wonder you support the casting of guilt on marines before their day in court?

Live or Die

There is only one marine going to trial dumbass. I don't support or condemn him one way or the other.

The facts are women and children were killed. Other than that, the facts will come out at the trial.

Here is what Live or Die thinks of American soldiers.


Murtha is a traitor

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2007-10-01 12:06 PM

Is it any wonder he hates America?

"You open mouth and insert foot! Shinseki retired four months after his testimony, and had announced his retirement in 2002! You blatantly lie in order to exaggerate the facts! And ... I'm the tool, right?"

TAD,

You Insipid Drone !!!

He Was Removed From his Position As Army Chief Of Staff After 4 Months, NOT RETIRE !!!


"In another unusual move, Rumsfeld has tapped Army Gen. Jack Keane, the No. 2 officer in the Army, to succeed the current chief of that service, Gen. Eric Shinseki, whose term runs out next year. Selecting a successor for the current chief so far in advance is highly unusual." [9] This reported departure from precedent somewhat undercut Shinseki's authority within the Army. However, it has never been established where this report came from, or whether it had any basis in fact; in the event, Shinseki's successor was not Keane, but Peter Schoomaker.

"His official term as Chief of the Army ended four months later and he retired as scheduled."

Can You Fucking Read ?!!!

What An Ass Clown You Are !

-Sarge

When A military Memember commits Murder It Is A Crime Period !!

War Atrocities happen And THE Guilty Must PAY !!!

These Criminals Once Found Guilty And Convicted Of Their Crimes By A Military Court Marshal Shall Pay for Their Crimes !!!

The American Military Protect The Innocent; Not Murder Them !

-Sarge

Jack Murtha. Traitor or patriot, You be the judge.



Modernization of the military was largely neglected during the decline of the Soviet Union. Instead of adapting to changing military realities during the 1990's, then-President Clinton and his Democrat allies often failed to invest in new fighting techniques and technologies, while spearheading reductions in spending that cut too deep. Along with many fellow House Democrats, Rep. Murtha supported wreckless budget cuts to the military.

Voted against granting rapid acquisition authority to the Secretary of Defense for the purpose of obtaining needed equipment during time of combat emergencies. (Vote 234, 6/14/04)

Rep. Murtha opposed an amendment to require the president to seek additional contributions from countries where U.S. military forces are permanently stationed. The amendment would authorize the president to induce contributions by reducing U.S. troops abroad, imposing taxes or fees similar to those imposed on U.S. forces stationed in foreign nations, or reducing the amount the U.S. contributes to the NATO budget or other bilateral accounts. (Vote 168, 5/14/96)

Voted "yes" for a budget that would have cut defense spending by $60 billion over seven years. (Vote 342, 5/18/95)

Rep. Murtha opposed additional money for military funding in 1995. Vote 865, 12/15/1995

Voted "yes" to doubling the amount of defense cuts proposed by President George H.W. Bush. This budget would cut $16 billion from national defense. Vote 42, 3/5/1992 Vote 41, 3/5/1992

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.


Disclosing Intelligence Information

The goal of United States intelligence operations is to gather as much information as possible about governments and groups who seek to harm the United States while maintaining the security of our own national secrets. Votes taken in the House on two issues gave Members of Congress the opportunity to reaffirm their commitment to preserving our national secrets.

Rep. Murtha obviously does not appreciate the value of keeping intelligence information close to home. Murtha voted to make it easier to disclose sensitive information.

In response to recent media revelations of classified efforts to undermine terrorist activity in or against the United States, House Republicans acted to express their strong disapproval of the leaks and make known their expectation that the media not report on unauthorized disclosures of classified information which could threaten the success of ongoing investigations. However, Rep. Murtha and other House Democrats aligned their party with the New York Times over the safety and security of U.S. communities when they decided not to support the nonbinding resolution. (Vote #357, 6/29/06)

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.



Helping Military Families

Voted for a resolution urging equal pay increases for federal civilian employees and military personnel in FY2005. (Vote 104, 3/31/04) Are bureaucrats realy worth just as much as our men and women fighting overseas?

A Flawed Foreign Policy

Rep. Murtha voted for an amendment prohibiting the use of funds to carry out the travel embargo on Cuba. (Vote #285, 6/14/06)

Rep. Murtha opposed a proposal encouraging a democratic Palestinian government that denounces and combats terrorism and agrees to respect the boundaries and sovereignty of its neighbors and the human rights of all people. (Vote 395, 7/20/05)

Voted for an amendment prohibiting the use of funds to enforce new restrictions and rules in regard to the Cuban travel ban. (Vote 460, 9/21/04)

Voted to block money for implementing new restrictions on gifts to Cuba and personal baggage for travelers to Cuba. (Vote 329, 7/7/04)

Voted for an amendment prohibiting the use of funds to enforce restrictions on remittances of Cuban nationals. (Vote 484, 9/9/03)

Voted against an amendment that would limit the use of funds to enforce the Cuban travel ban only once the president has certified certain terrorism-related conditions in Cuba. (Vote 330, 7/23/02)

Voted for an amendment prohibiting the use of funds to enforce the Cuban travel ban. (Vote 331, 7/23/02)

Voted for an amendment prohibiting the use of funds to enforce restrictions on remittances of Cuban nationals. (Vote 332, 7/23/02)

Opposed legislation to prohibit the use of Defense Department funds to maintain a permanent military presence in Haiti beyond December 31, 1999. (Vote 183, 6/9/99)

Voted against a measure to restrict nuclear cooperation with North Korea until then-President Clinton certified to Congress that North Korea is in compliance with international nuclear agreements, terminated its nuclear weapons program, and permitted independent verification of their nuclear sites. (Vote 321, 7/21/99)

Rep. Murtha voted against a resolution stating that military action should not be taken in Haiti unless the President certifies a danger to U.S. lives or interests, and international organizations should establish a safehaven for Haitian refugees. (Vote 224, 6/9/94)

Rep. Murtha voted against changing Clinton's Somalia withdrawal date from March 31, 1994 to January 31, 1994. (Vote 555, 11/9/93)

Fighting the Global War on Terror

Rep. Murtha voted against an amendment affirming the need to maintain the U.S. facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to detain enemy combatants captured during the War on Terror. (Vote 396, 7/20/05)

According to Rep. Murtha, terrorist detentions and interrogations are NOT fundamental to the successful prosecution of the War on Terror. Vote 298, 6/23/2004

Voted against expressing support for the efforts of the intelligence community. (Vote 293, 6/23/04)

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.



Iraq

Led by ultra-liberal Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Murtha and 148 House Democrats voted against a resolution opposing a hasty withdrawal from Iraq. The resolution also:
Supported continuing the efforts to establish a stable democracy for the Iraqis
Honored those Americans who have served their country in the fight against terrorism and have been wounded or killed
Commended the Iraqi people for their successful elections
(Vote #288, 6/16/06)

Achieving a free and stable Iraq sustained by Iraqi security forces is the primary goal of U.S. operations in the country. House Republicans led efforts to reinforce this commitment, making it clear that U.S. Armed Forces should remain in the region until Iraqi forces can protect their nation from both internal and external terrorists trying to undermine the democracy. Rep. Murtha voted against the amendment. (Vote 397, 7/20/05)

In the midst of operations in Iraq, House Republicans passed a simple resolution:
Declaring that the United States and the world is safer with Saddam Hussein and his regime removed from power in Iraq;
Praising the Iraqi people for their courage, withstanding "unspeakable oppression and brutality" at the hand of Saddam Hussein and his regime;
Lauding the adoption of the Iraqi interim constitution;
Commending the United States and Coalition forces for freeing Iraq and their heroic service.

Ask Rep. Murtha if the world is safer with Saddam Hussein removed from power, because Murtha proved to be one of 90 Democrats opposing the resolution. (Vote 64, 3/17/04)

Seriously Sarge, shut the fuck up will you? Clearly Murtha condemned these soldiers before he knew a fucking thing about the case. How's that case turning out so far champ? How's you like it if those were you or your guys caught up in it and a Congressman that once wore the uniform tossed you under the bus?

You try so god damned hard to come across like you know what the fuck you're talking about. As if exclamation points some how make your lame retorts important? Stick to posting youtube clips.

Let's have a QRF for Iraq in Okinawa...

Is this guy playing with a full deck?

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.



The United States and the United Nations

Days after the Government Accountability Office (GAO) testified that "the UN is vulnerable to fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement due to a range of weaknesses in existing oversight practices," (GAO-06-877T, GAO, 6/20/06) the majority of House Republicans voted to withhold funding for the $1.7 billion planned renovation of the U.N. headquarters in New York City. Rep. Murtha seemingly turned a blind eye towards the fiscal accountability problems at the United Nations and voted against the amendment. (Vote #342, 6/28/06)

Rep. Murtha opposed accountability measures for U.N. Members engaged in genocide, war crimes or crimes against humanity. (Vote 275, 6/17/05)

The United States pays more in dues to the United Nations than any other member country. Three countries pay more than half of the U.N. budget while the 128 poorest nations pay less than one percent. Even China, with more than one billion people and one of the fastest growing economies in the world is only accountable for two percent of the U.N. budget, while the U.S. pays 22 percent. Yet, many of these nations oppose the United States and the American policies promoted at the U.N. The result is that the U.S. ends up paying for a larger share of U.N. activities even when it does not approve of the final U.N. decision.

In an effort to ensure a more equitable system of assessing U.N. dues, an amendment was offered to the U.N. Reform Act to limit the proportion of dues paid by the United States, compared to what is paid by other members of the U.N. Security Council. Most Democrats, including Rep. Murtha, opposed efforts to ensure U.S. taxpayers are not on the hook for more than their fair share. (Vote 278, 6/17/05)

Rep. Murtha opposed measures to require substantive U.N. reforms prior to the United States making additional monetary contributions to the United Nations. Vote 385, 7/19/2005 Vote 282, 6/17/2005

Voted against reducing funding for international organizations like the United Nations by $20 million. (Vote 342, 7/8/04)

Opposed an amendment that would prohibit funding to the United Nations. (Vote 335, 7/7/04) It would essentially defund the international organization.

Rep. Murtha voted not to deny funding for a contribution to the United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). (Vote 333, 7/7/04) President Reagan pulled this nation out of UNESCO in 1984 for its radicalism and anti-Western bias. These sentiments continue today.

Rep. Murtha voted to protect $71 million in funding for the United States' re-entry into the United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). (Vote 405, 7/22/03) President Reagan pulled this nation out of UNESCO in 1984 for its radicalism and anti-Western bias. These sentiments continue today.

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.


The United Nations overseeing our elections? Rep. Murtha voted against barring the use of funds to request the United Nations oversee and assess the validity of elections in the United States. (Vote 385, 7/15/04)

Rep. Murtha voted against capping our contribution to the regular budget of the United Nations to that of no more than any other permanent member of the Security Council. (Vote 365, 7/15/03)

The United States has been on the U.N. Human Rights Commission since its inception in 1947 until recently. Now, its members include countries such as China, Sudan, and Cuba. Instead of sending a message to the international community, Rep. Murtha voted against legislation to withhold the release of $244 million in U.N. dues until the United States regains its rightful seat on this commission. (Vote 107, 5/10/01)

Rep. Murtha voted against legislation to make monetary contributions to the United Nations contingent on U.N. reforms. (Vote 380, 8/5/99)

Rep. Murtha voted against a bill to prohibit foreign military assistance, but not humanitarian, for any nation that fails to support the U.S. on at least 25 percent of votes in the United Nations general assembly. (Vote 324, 7/21/99)

Voted against eliminating a U.N. debt payment of $475 million. (Vote 392, 8/5/98)

Voted against reducing the U.N. debt payment by $109 million. (Vote 394, 8/5/98)

Voted against limiting the president's ability to place U.S. troops under U.N. command.
Vote 145, 2/16/1995 Vote 225, 6/9/1994

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.


The Civil War in Yugoslavia

Rep. Murtha voted against withholding half ($2.1 billion) the funding for Kosovo operations until Clinton certified that European nations were fulfilling their agreed upon share. (Vote 89, 3/30/00)

Rep. Murtha voted to force the Department of Defense to use their regular annual budget to help sustain military operations in Kosovo. Murtha, our military's resources have already been spread thin enough. (Vote 189, 6/10/99)

Voted to allow air operations over the former-Yugoslavia. (Vote 103, 4/28/99)

Voted to pay for American ground forces in Kosovo, sent by then-President Clinton, without prior authorization from Congress. (Vote 100, 4/28/99)

Voted to allow U.S. troops to serve as part of the NATO peacekeeping operation in order to enforce the peace agreement in Kosovo. (Vote 49, 3/11/99)

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.



More with Less: Peacekeepers of the World

During the Clinton years, the military was forced to do a lot more with a lot less. According to the House Armed Services Committee, the Army conducted 10 "operational events" in the 30 years prior to 1991. From 1991 to 1998, in seven short years, the number of military operations ballooned to an astounding 26 such deployments, from Haiti to Somalia.

While drastically cutting the military, Clinton has deployed our service men and women many more times than any other president, and Rep. Murtha supported Clinton's foreign policy plans and programs. Case-in-point: our nation's involvement overseas in the former-Yugoslavia.

Voted against removing American troops from Bosnia despite the lack of clearly defined American objectives. (Vote 58, 3/18/98)

Voted against a resolution, which supported U.S. troops sent into Bosnia, but raised concerns about the President's use of the U.S. military in this "peacekeeping" manner. (Vote 857, 12/13/95)

Voted to allow a raid on the defense budget by sending U.S. troops to Bosnia without additional funding. (Vote 814, 11/17/95)

Voted against a measure expressing the sense of the Congress to authorize funding for Clinton's policy of placing U.S. troops into Bosnia. (Vote 745, 10/30/95)

The Fragmented China Plan

Rep. Murtha opposed a measure to prohibit a U.S. taxpayer funded loan for a foreign-owned company building nuclear reactors in China. (Vote 332, 6/28/05)

Rep. Murtha voted against a bill to suspend foreign visits to nuclear labs for a two-year period. Our nuclear technology may be the most precious secret our government maintains. We can't afford to risk this information. In light of possible security breaches by the Chinese government, we must protect this technology at all costs. (Vote 181, 6/9/99)
Voted against a resolution urging then-President Clinton to reconsider his decision to be formally received in China's Tiananmen Square, the sight of the brutal government massacre of innocent pro-democracy protesters in 1989. (Vote 202, 6/4/98)

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.



More with Less: Peacekeepers of the World

During the Clinton years, the military was forced to do a lot more with a lot less. According to the House Armed Services Committee, the Army conducted 10 "operational events" in the 30 years prior to 1991. From 1991 to 1998, in seven short years, the number of military operations ballooned to an astounding 26 such deployments, from Haiti to Somalia.

While drastically cutting the military, Clinton has deployed our service men and women many more times than any other president, and Rep. Murtha supported Clinton's foreign policy plans and programs. Case-in-point: our nation's involvement overseas in the former-Yugoslavia.

Voted against removing American troops from Bosnia despite the lack of clearly defined American objectives. (Vote 58, 3/18/98)

Voted against a resolution, which supported U.S. troops sent into Bosnia, but raised concerns about the President's use of the U.S. military in this "peacekeeping" manner. (Vote 857, 12/13/95)

Voted to allow a raid on the defense budget by sending U.S. troops to Bosnia without additional funding. (Vote 814, 11/17/95)

Voted against a measure expressing the sense of the Congress to authorize funding for Clinton's policy of placing U.S. troops into Bosnia. (Vote 745, 10/30/95)

The Fragmented China Plan

Rep. Murtha opposed a measure to prohibit a U.S. taxpayer funded loan for a foreign-owned company building nuclear reactors in China. (Vote 332, 6/28/05)

Rep. Murtha voted against a bill to suspend foreign visits to nuclear labs for a two-year period. Our nuclear technology may be the most precious secret our government maintains. We can't afford to risk this information. In light of possible security breaches by the Chinese government, we must protect this technology at all costs. (Vote 181, 6/9/99)
Voted against a resolution urging then-President Clinton to reconsider his decision to be formally received in China's Tiananmen Square, the sight of the brutal government massacre of innocent pro-democracy protesters in 1989. (Vote 202, 6/4/98)

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.



Russia

Rep. Murtha voted against a measure, introduced by a fellow Democrat, to limit aid to Russia if Russia transfers an SS-N-22 missile system to China. (Vote 235, 6/25/97)
Rep. Murtha opposed an amendment to prohibit spending $200 million in aid to Russia until the president certifies that Russia is not producing biological weapons. (Vote 369, 6/13/95)

101,

You Shut The Fuck Up !!

These Were Marines You Ass Clown Not Soldiers, Being An 11 Bullet Stopper I Thought You Would Know The Difference !!

Innocent People Were Killed To Include Children "Needlessly And With Contempt", So When Bullshit Like This Happens It Is "Someones Fault And The Guilty Will Pay !!

If Nothing Happened Wrong This Would Not Ever Have Even come Up But It Did And That Is A Fact !!

-Sarge

Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge.


Protecting Human Rights

Recently, several United Nations member countries have opposed pressuring developing nations to improve their human rights records by passing country-specific resolutions. In other words, these countries do not want to expose (or be exposed) to the global community the abuse that goes on in some parts of the world. In order to reaffirm the United States' commitment to improving human rights, Republicans offered an amendment requiring the U.N. to continue to issue country-specific resolutions. Rep. Murtha voted against it. (Vote 274, 6/17/05)


Miscellaneous Issues

Voted against legislation to prohibit loans to foreign countries in excess of $1 billion without congressional authorization. (Vote 304, 7/15/99)

For the poster whom uses the internet persona, "Sarge".

Benidict Arnold served, was he a traitor?

Lou Dobbs

What Ultra conservative trash. Need some help with your dribble glass?

"while spearheading reductions in spending that cut too deep(WHO SAYS?). Along with many fellow House Democrats, Rep. Murtha supported wreckless budget cuts to the military.


Is that how the bill was presented? Here is a bill on RECKLESS BUDGETS CUTS---let's vote.

Your rant is bullshit conservative rhetoric slanted with lies. You can't see the slanted lies in your post? I suggest you read this part again.

"while spearheading reductions in spending that cut too deep(WHO SAYS?). Along with many fellow House Democrats, Rep. Murtha supported wreckless budget cuts to the military.


Is that how the bill was presented? Here is a bill on RECKLESS BUDGETS CUTS---let's vote.


Lou Dobbs

Turd or Shitheel?

Vote Now

Results at 11.

If Nothing Happened Wrong This Would Not Ever Have Even come Up But It Did And That Is A Fact !!

-Sarge

Posted by Sarge at 2007-10-01 01:56 PM | Reply |


Yeah? Tell it to the boys at Duke. Of course you'll cry about injustice in Jena, but for some odd reason you have no problem calling these guys guilty before a trial.

You're a fucking retard. It has nothing to do with your childish need to capitalize every word or even the multiple punctuations.

What Murtha did was ridiculous. He just wanted to appease the fruits like you so he declared the Marines were guilty without knowing any thing. I'll ask again champ, how's that turning out?

Benidict Arnold served, was he a traitor?

Posted by Lou_Dobbs at 2007-10-01 02:01 PM


Benedict Arnold was an war American hero winning many significant battles for America. Without his leadership in those early battles, there is a good chance there would be no America as we know it today. He was also a traitor to the American cause. He had been passed over for promotion by other generals who took credit for his accomplishments, he was deeply in debt, and he was against the alliance with France.

Sounds like Tadowe.

All above info are chronicled BB. Do the homework and prove them to be untrue.

You Can't.

"Here is what Live or Die thinks of American soldiers.


Murtha is a traitor

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2007-10-01 12:06 PM

Is it any wonder he hates America?"
--BUFFALO_BOB

Boob, as usual you're a dipshit.

Calling Murtha, a politician, a traitor is appropriate, because he smeared marines as murderers, who had not yet been convicted of murder, and hadn't even had a trial.

That doesn't bother you, maybe because you think our soldiers are 'parasites.' (see post above) According to you, Murtha, a politician who's out there verbally fragging our serving marines, is a hero, and I hate America because I thought the marines should have been given a fair trial before being considered guilty of murder. According to you, fair trials for marines is unamerican.

"Innocent People Were Killed To Include Children "Needlessly And With Contempt", So When Bullshit Like This Happens It Is "Someones Fault And The Guilty Will Pay !!"
--SARGE

Are you suggesting the marines accused are guilty?

Better let a court decide that.

I'm going with Shitheel for Dobbs. For posting opinion as if it were fact. He may, however, also be a Turd.

101 obviously was never in the service, because he doesn't know the difference between a soldier and a Marine.

JustSomeGuy (is that who it was, 101?)

"Calling Murtha, a politician, a traitor is appropriate, because he smeared marines as murderers, who had not yet been convicted of murder, and hadn't even had a trial."



Smearing marines as murderers that have not been convicted is not traitorous behaviour. You smeared a marine that had not been convicted of treason, yet that seems ok to you I'm sure.

Lying to the country about WMDs to get the country into a conflict that costs thousands of lives is traitorous behaviour.

It's easy to prove, 101. Just scan your Form P34SUKIT789, fax it to your landlord-mom, and have her mail it to me, where I will scan it again and post it here for all to see.

JSG

"Smearing marines as murderers that have not been convicted is not traitorous behaviour."
--BUFFALO_BOB

That's all I need to see from you Bob. Thanks.

Say hello to BigFoot for me.

"Pay attention to meeeeeeeeee!!!!"
-Flush Limbaugh

That's all I need to see from you Bob. Thanks.

Liveordie, I saw all I needed when Bob continued to accuse Bush 41 of being a pedophile based on the word of a woman who also claimed she was enslaved telepathically by Bob Hope.

Monte says-----For posting opinion as if it were fact.

Difficulty understanding this? "Jack Murtha, traitor or patriot? You be the judge."

I'm simply putting chronicled info out here for anyone who wants to research the facts.

Whether an individual agrees or disagrees with his votes is up to the individual.

His votes are FACT. What you really have a problem with is free speech.

Why do you fear people being informed of their politicians ACTUAL voting record?

"based on the word of a woman who also claimed she was enslaved telepathically by Bob Hope."
--BOWA

I don't know the details of that story, but considering Buffalo_Bob, this part wouldn't surprise me one bit. haha

I don't know the details of that story, but considering Buffalo_Bob

Oh don't worry, I am sure Bob will be posting the applicable links to the nutty woman's book again any moment now.

LOL

"Limbaugh: Murtha's a Phony Soldier Too"

The only people who care what Limbaugh says are Ditto Heads and the people on this blog.

Limbaugh today invited Harry Reid to his show in order that Harry can prove his allegations toward Limbaugh.

What are the odds Harry will accept?

Liveordie, I saw all I needed when Bob continued to accuse Bush 41 of being a pedophile based on the word of a woman who also claimed she was enslaved telepathically by Bob Hope.

Don't forget that Henry Kissinger was in on it, too. And that they implanted a chip into her 3 YO daughter's brain and snuck her into the white house so 41 could sodomize her. Also, the woman herself was brainwashed.

What is so funny on Bob's side of it is that he takes the word a woman who is sefl admittedly brainwashed. I tried to get Bob to tell me how her testimony could be reliable if she is brainwashed. It either flies right over him, or he refuses to acknowledge the paradox.

Just as predicted, Bob enters the room. Gee, Bowa -- How'd you know? *grin*

IGNORANCE CONTEST (by posts)
Right Wingers 22
left Wingers 3

Right Wingers win 2nd annual asshole award
their theme "...be an asshole and hate libs"

acyualy this not a fair contest, lefties showed up

Lying to the country about WMDs to get the country into a conflict that costs thousands of lives is traitorous behaviour.

No it's not, Boob. May I recommend an on-line dictionary so that you can look up the word "traitor"?

Here is what Live or Die thinks of American soldiers.

Murtha is a traitor

Boob -- I know I can be a little dense, so maybe you can explain to me how someone's opinion of a single congressman relates to his opinion about American soldiers. Help me here when the aliens art through anally probing you.

Just as predicted, Bob enters the room. Gee, Bowa -- How'd you know? *grin*

LOL

Yes, it is surreal how pathetically knee-jerk Bob is most of the time.

101,

Who said anything like that, you love that RACE Card don't you ?

So I'll raise you with a "Phil Specter, OJ, and A Robert Blake" So Guilty Or Innocent when you heard about these cases ? Oh I'm fucking sure the Learned and Just 101, said "Oh they are all Innocent until they are proven guilty in court", Right My Ass you said that !!

I NEVER I Repeat NEVER thought the Duke Team was Guilty !!!



Jena 6 ? A kid would get jumped every other day when I was in High School but never charged with Murder, that kid was treated and released in the same day and went to a Fucking Party ? So your Point is What the Lethal Weapon Was a Damn Sneaker ? Right you with you Deep Cynical Mentality can't even Squeeze your Brain to support that Bullshit but then again you might be hanging out with TADOWE lately.

So when you come at me come at me with some Rational Thought Out Shit, instead of your Flintstones Crap Fred !

-Sarge

Nice job Bowa. You have trained Buffalo_Boob well.

Can you make him roll over?

Nice job Bowa. You have trained Buffalo_Boob well.

Can you make him roll over?

Better yet, can you make him play dead?

Don't let them get to you Boob. Jesus was mocked and scorned too.

Give Rush the Oxyc8tin/V*agra/Dominican kiddie p*rn medal of yellow jingoism.

"What you really have a problem with is free speech.

Why do you fear people being informed of their politicians ACTUAL voting record?

Posted by Lou_Dobbs at 2007-10-01 03:04 PM"

I HATE free speech! Hate it!

(And why do you have to bring up the ACLU, Doobs?)

Yous lefty lying morons are going to take a hit if you keep pursueing this line of shit that your assclown leaders are spinning . Why don't you listen to the original broadcast ? As I have always said , if there was a pile of dog shit in the middle of a 6 lane hiway , you libs step right in it .
This Limbaugh gig is going to bite you leftwing wackos on the ass .

Rush rules !!!

Don't let them get to you Boob. Jesus was mocked and scorned too.

Posted by Ray at 2007-10-01 03:57 PM

Did I understand this right? Or was Ray mocking Beefalo Boob as well?

At best, an unintentionally FF.

Posted by Lou_Dobbs at 2007-10-01 01:50 PM |

Well, Mr. Dobbs, I see you have chosen to use the blogger name of one of my heroes and a man who is a true patriot.

Make sure ALL your future posts do the REAL Lou Dobbs justice or there will be hell to pay. *grin*

He was getting you all at once, RightO.

"Rush rules !!!

Posted by rightnut at 2007-10-01 05:27 PM"

I love this. I don't know why, but I do.

I love this. I don't know why, but I do.

Posted by mOntecOre at 2007-10-01 05:46 PM |

This DR nuthouse does an addicting nature, doesn't it.

forgot a word

"does have an..."

LOU DOBBS

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);


www.whitehouse.gov


Who was president in 1998?


By the way, BB. That particular Whereas ranks 5th in what appears to be 23 whereas's.


Need a new talking point? Go to www.DailyKOS.com



Posted by Lou_Dobbs at 2007-10-01 03:34 PM | Reply



You might want to check out the date on your source. It is from October, 2002.

As to the actual document you refer to---who ran CONGRESS in 1998? WHO? Was it the REPUBLICANS in 1998? I think it was the republicans in 1998. Who declares WAR in 1998? Congress or the President? It seems if congress wanted the President to take
"to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations", they should have stated what they thought those appropriate actions were, wouldn't you think? Obviously it wasn't WAR, since congress is the only body that authorizes WAR, or did you forget that little point.

Need another talking point? Tune into Rush and load up on zombie juice.

well, when I can't even type a nine word sentence without leaving a word out -- time to go.

Good afternoon, BuffaloBob.

Ray

Don't let them get to you Boob. Jesus was mocked and scorned too.

Posted by Ray at 2007-10-01 03:57 PM


Jesus loves you, Boob. Even if you don't know Exodus from Genesis or your ass from your face. Here's a hint though: Your FACE is the one you are supposed to shave. Here's a clue: You have toilet stuck to your nose.

Why do you fear people being informed of their politicians ACTUAL voting record?

Posted by Lou_Dobbs at 2007-10-01 03:04 PM"

Then post the ACTUAL voting records. Not your slant on them.

Rush limbaugh is STILL a drug addict.

Rush limbaugh is STILL a drug addict.

Truthhurts, just how would you know? Care to share?

I find it strange that the conservatives get so upset by Kerrys' poorly told joke, yet let Limgaughs outright attack on soldiers with a different view than his go not only unchallenged, but applauded. Republicans---the party of perverts and hypocrites.

Dear ASSHOLE. You just proved to me that libs like you are ASSHOLES!

Well, we caught Harry Reed lying again. Rush referred to one phony soldier the libs were trying to get us to believe was a hero. He didn't say Web or Murtha. Again you libs can't tell the truth just like the NEW YORK SLIME.

Well, we caught Harry Reed lying again. Rush referred to one phony soldier the libs were trying to get us to believe was a hero. He didn't say Web or Murtha. Again you libs can't tell the truth just like the NEW YORK SLIME.

undermining our national honor to do so ...

Posted by tadowe at 2007-09-30 03:12 PM | Reply

So now Taddybushbot is equating REAL war veterans who had the audacity to excercise their FREEDOM of speech as undermining our national honor.

Josef Stalin would be so proud of you Comrade Taddy.

Your hero Mortimer "HillyBilly Heroin" Limblather must make you cream your jeans every time you hear him denegrate the service of REAL war VETERANS solely on the basis that they do not believe in his partisan nonsense.

The fact that El Blobbo Limblather is now LYING and COWERING under the pressure proves he was and IS WRONG. His brand of "conservatism" is a mental disorder.

Rush referred to one phony soldier the libs were trying to get us to believe was a hero. He didn't say Web or Murtha. Again you libs can't tell the truth just like the NEW YORK SLIME.

Posted by ozzieoswald at 2007-10-02 07:32 AM

Do you actually know what you are talking about or are you just reading the memo?

Did you listen to the show?

I heard him call ALL soldiers who talk against the war as PHONY SOLDIERS.

"CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what --

LIMBAUGH: "Save the -- keep the troops safe" or whatever. I -- it's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.

CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country."



But thanks for playing. Please collect a nice parting gift.

Your hero Mortimer "HillyBilly Heroin" Limblather must make you cream your jeans every time you hear him....

Bullshit. Who posts threads about Limbaugh? 100% of the time it is liberals who do that. THEY are they ones who are "creaming in their jeans" over what Limbaugh says.

I'm convinced that most liberals here either listen to his show regularly or go to the websites obsessed with him.

Why in the fuck do you guys worry about him? You make him relevant.

Yes, he is a bloviating arrogant jerk. Furthermore, he has no room to preach real conservative values considering how he lives his own life.

I think you guys must believe all conservatives need limbaugh.

The Democrats are just striking out like a wounded animal (an Ass perhaps?).

They got burnt by the MoveOn.org ad It hurt them. but instead of just licking their wounds and (for lack of a better term) "moving on", They tried to attack Limbaugh and O'Reilly in the same way even if it meant taking their words out of context.

LOL

The Dems should have held their tongues and taken this sage advice from the movie, O Brother, Where Art Thou? instead:

"Why we'd look like a bunch of Johnny-come-
latelies...braggin' on our own midget--no matter how stumpy." -

Jimmy jumps in, "So now Taddybushbot is equating REAL war veterans who had the audacity to excercise their FREEDOM of speech as undermining our national honor."

Whoa, Jimmy! You can't put that broadbrush down to actually discuss what is happening here, now?

That's okay. It demonstrates my point: Leftist/Democratics are incapable of discussing the points of any topic because they are obsessed with making the subject their personal debate opponent. Kill the messenger is the only tactic that they can use in response to contradiction because they weren't fed the answer by the DNC.

"Josef Stalin would be so proud of you Comrade Taddy."

Why, Jimmy? Because I want to win a victory for the USA against human sacrifice? Because I think this war is a victory for ending Saddam's genocide? Is he proud because I support the fight against theocratic tyranny? How about my effort to get some Leftist/Democratic to actually support and justify their attempts to subvert the success of this war? Is that why he is proud, Jimmy?

"Your hero Mortimer "HillyBilly Heroin" Limblather must make you cream your jeans every time you hear him denegrate the service of REAL war VETERANS solely on the basis that they do not believe in his partisan nonsense."

I know you are a liar, Jimmy. If not, then you will provide the quote, in context, where Limbaugh did what you claim ...

You can't, so you won't, and neither will any other Leftist/Democratic be able to produce such a quote!

That is because it is a complete and total lie made up by Leftist/Democratics to make the messenger the subject!!!

Natches!!!

"The fact that El Blobbo Limblather is now LYING and COWERING under the pressure proves he was and IS WRONG. His brand of "conservatism" is a mental disorder."

No, your are the ilk whining and puling your guts out to lose a war for all the USA!!!!

A Party Of Traitors who are war profiteering for votes!!!

My problem with Rush in general is that he's one of the people most responsible for the great divide in American life, where people like TADOWE call Democrats 'traitors'. His manner is hateful towards the 'left'. He's kind of our own version of Tokyo Rose: Constantly deriding more than half of Americans on a daily basis.

Because I think this war is a victory for ending Saddam's genocide? Is he proud because I support the fight against theocratic tyranny?

Posted by tadowe at 2007-10-02 07:52 AM | Repl

So Saddamm was a THEOCRATIC tyrant? You sir need to gather your facts.

And if you actually understood what IS happening in Iraq the war has replaced one theocratic tyrant with a bunch of little theocratic factions intent on genocide on the other theocratic factions. Instead of Saddam killing people, there is now Sunni's killing Shia and Shia killing Sunni.

So what has changed other than the lack of sanitation, electricity and basic services that our pampered asses take for granted in the United States?

Even the political aspiring General in charge of the surge cannot say that the war has made America safer.

And if you had read my 7:42 am post you would see the actual quote the Limblow used. But you are too partisan to see that.

But keep on keeping on being the chief bloviating traitor destroying America for the profit of contractors and republicant cancer that has infected this nation.

I think you guys must believe all conservatives need limbaugh.

Posted by eberly at 2007-10-02 07:45 AM | Reply

Any real conservative would despise what Mortimer "Polinoidal Cyst" Limblaugh stands for.

Jimmy jumps back, "So Saddamm was a THEOCRATIC tyrant? You sir need to gather your facts."

It is a war on terrorism, Jimmy, and Saddam is just one part of it, as is Afghanistan.

Those practicing terrorism, now ... right now ... are Islamic theocratic fascists intent on ruling the world under Sharia. Their first effort was Israel, and those attacks against our ally have been constant for nearly fifty (50) years now! Not that you could bring yourself to notice!

Saddam supported that goal, and specially in supplying terrorists with arms and ammunition against Israel. His reward for terrorism against the US was bringing combatants into Afghanistan and destabilizing their fledgling democracy ...

Save you idiot quibbles for your choir, Jimmy. That ilk believes every word spoken in defeat and retreat and failure for the USA!

Scumsucking traitors in order to gain votes from a defeat for all the USA. The party of yellow-dogs will lap their partisan balls in delight if they can force a loss for our country so they can win an election ...

It is a war on terrorism, Jimmy, and Saddam is just one part of it, as is Afghanistan.

Posted by tadowe at 2007-10-02 09:39 AM | Reply

You really do beleive the RNC talking points.

How sad.

Maybe someday you will come into the reality based community.

So Tad,

Just what criteria do you use for a victory in Iraq?

If this "war" was so important why did Bush hand over the capture of Osama to Afghan warlords instead of letting the US Military (the greatest fighting organization in the world) finish the job properly?

Why hasn't Buscho pursued Osama into Pakistan?

Why has Bushco let Al Queda and the Taliban take up safe have in Pakistan?

Why is kissing Pakistans ass more important than winning the "war" on terrorism?

Why has Bushco let the Taliban regroup inside Afghanistan?

Why? Why? Why?

"yet let Limgaughs outright attack on soldiers with a different view than his go not only unchallenged, but applauded."
--BUFFALO_BOB

Letting attacks on our soldiers go unchallenged?

Smearing marines as murderers that have not been convicted is not traitorous behaviour.
Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-01 02:50 PM

You are a joke, just like Limbaugh.

IGNORANCE CONTEST (by posts)
Right Wingers 22
left Wingers 3

Right Wingers win 2nd annual asshole award
their theme "...be an asshole and hate libs"

acyualy this not a fair contest, lefties showed up

Posted by onna



Onna must be a Lib.

What?!!? Is this Jr. High School?

"An Ignorance Contest?"

LOL!

What?!!? Is this Jr. High School?

"An Ignorance Contest?"

LOL!

Posted by LastAmerican at 2007-10-02 11:55 AM


Maybe that is the new mantra by Dems. Using 12 year olds to speak for them and dumbing the debate down so their Party can relate.

Using 12 year olds to speak for them and dumbing the debate down so their Party can relate.

Posted by crispee_oc at 2007-10-02 12:18 PM

Again you libs can't tell the truth just like the NEW YORK SLIME.

Posted by ozzieoswald at 2007-10-02 07:33 AM | Reply

I love the rib at Liberals for not recognizing the truth. That is very funny. If you want to talk about a party that cant tell the truth from a lie you better take a long hard look in the far right mirror. When you have a spokesman like Rush then you really aren't too concerned with the truth. Rush likes too live in make believe world where no one has a better idea then him and questioning someone makes you un-American. This type of belief is what is helping to slowly destroying the Republican party. Rush called Murtha a fake solider. I guess he figures since he never served in the arm forces he is the best judge of what makes a phony.

Limbaugh calling any soldier or former soldier a phony is about as hypocritical as it gets.
Him and his anal cyst.

Randi Rhodes was talking about that yesterday, guess what, she had one too...but she enlisted in the Air Force anyway and served.

I think she is more of a patriot than drugged out Rush ever will be or ever was. And the righties still listen to every syllable by this jerk. Just goes to show that some folks will listen to what they want to hear no matter how lacking in truth it is.

Ho hum. There was a phony soldier. He'd been in the army for 44 days before he washed out at basic training.

He represented himself as heroic and a medal winner. All false claims.

And yes, he demonized the army, claiming those serving in Iraq had committed continuing atrocities.

These allegations were broadcast throughout the Arab world on al-jazeera as true.

The story had been muted in the press until the attack on Rush gove it wide dissemination.

Democrats are losers. Born to lose, they've lived their lives in vain. Holding office is their claim to fame. What does the Democrat controlled Congress have, an 11% approval rating. Yippee Pelosi. Yippee Reid.

"And the righties still listen to every syllable by this jerk."
--DANNI

Yet its people like you who keep making a big deal out of every word he says, people just hoping to be offended, all the while lifting his ratings.

If it weren't for the left, Rush would be out of a job.

Posted by truthhurts at 2007-09-30 03:12 PM

Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict.

Calling the troops phonies is pretty disgusting but the dittoheads just pretend it was just one soldier he was insulting. They can pretend and Rush can edit the statement on his web site but unfortunately, just like many times in the past, the righties forget that others can record the statement and listen to what Rush really did say.
Seems sad that Imus lost his TV show and radio gig for a less hateful comment. But then I guess the people who listen to rush have a lower standard for their pundits.

Danni,

Is it possible he misspoke?

He did clarify what he meant, you know.


I liken this to Kerry's gaffe: "You'll end up getting [us] stuck in Iraq." - originally spoken without the "us".

I seem to recall you defending Kerry's comment based upon his clarification (as did I). Yet, you are unwilling to accept Rush's explanation based upon his clarification. Why is that?

I think she is more of a patriot than drugged out Rush ever will be or ever was. And the righties still listen to every syllable by this jerk. Just goes to show that some folks will listen to what they want to hear no matter how lacking in truth it is.

Posted by danni at 2007-10-02 02:24 PM

Spoken by the queen of left wing, socialist backing, cop hating, Kucinich loving, progressive, partisan hack democrat.That's worse than Harry Reid having the nerve to criticize anyone being critical of troops. Rhandi Rhodes compared to Rush????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A!!!!!

Jeff,

Rush has a history of calling soldiers who do not agree with his point of view phony. He has done it in the past.

far worse has been said on the senate floor by elected officials, why is reid so upset about limbo?

perhaps to deflect away from the dem prez front runners declaring no time table for troop withdrawals? why did they flip flop?

perhaps to deflect away from their vote for more funding for the illegal oil war? you know polls show overwhelming support to withdraw funding, so why dont they do it?

far worse has been said on the senate floor by elected officials, why is reid so upset about limbo?

perhaps to deflect away from the dem prez front runners declaring no time table for troop withdrawals? why did they flip flop?

perhaps to deflect away from their vote for more funding for the illegal oil war? you know polls show overwhelming support to withdraw funding, so why dont they do it?

far worse has been said on the senate floor by elected officials, why is reid so upset about limbo?

perhaps to deflect away from the dem prez front runners declaring no time table for troop withdrawals? why did they flip flop?

perhaps to deflect away from their vote for more funding for the illegal oil war? you know polls show overwhelming support to withdraw funding, so why dont they do it?

Rush has a history of calling soldiers who do not agree with his point of view phony. He has done it in the past.


Can you substantiate this?

"Calling the troops phonies is pretty disgusting"
--DANNI

I'm willing to bet you did not have the same disgust when Murtha publicly announced the marines of the Haditha incident guilty before their trial. And he's an elected member of government.

Do you share this view, Danni?

Smearing marines as murderers that have not been convicted is not traitorous behaviour.
Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2007-10-01 02:50 PM

Calling the troops phonies is pretty disgusting but the dittoheads just pretend it was just one soldier he was insulting. They can pretend and Rush can edit the statement on his web site but unfortunately, just like many times in the past, the righties forget that others can record the statement and listen to what Rush really did say.
Seems sad that Imus lost his TV show and radio gig for a less hateful comment. But then I guess the people who listen to rush have a lower standard for their pundits.

Posted by danni at 2007-10-02 02:46 PM |


I heard the show and he never said any such thing and nothing's been edited.

How can you bring yourself to believe Rush could edit it and not get caught? You can't be serious. If you don't think the dems have someone recording his every word every day he's on you're just fooling yourself and you're even more gullible than I realized.

By the way. Why don't you libs contact Harry Reid and persuade him to take Limbaugh up on his offer? If Harry's words are true one would reason that Harry would be only to happy to take the pportunity to confront the person he accuses and expose him face to face.

Reid won't.... why? Because Harry's a LIAR and Limbaugh would utterly decimate Reid, and that's the last thing Harry can have happen.

Reid won't.... why? Because Harry's a LIAR and Limbaugh would utterly decimate Reid, and that's the last thing Harry can have happen.



Posted by Incubus_Con at 2007-10-02 03:19 PM |


Great post Incubus. Don't forget the Chris Wallace debacle proving Harry is fucking lying peice of shit.

Can you substantiate this?

Posted by JeffJ at 2007-10-02 03:13 PM | Reply

He called Paul Hacket a "staff puke" that he was hiding behind his uniform, that he was "padding his resume" by going to Iraq.

Can you substantiate this?

Posted by JeffJ at 2007-10-02 03:13 PM


Of course he can't, but the foul feathered fowl here will love him.

Anything to keep the ducks in a row.

It's hard to call someone(liberal, progressively/regressive) with no principles a hypocrite.

Of course he can't, but the foul feathered fowl here will love him.


Posted by Incubus_Con at 2007-10-02 03:28 PM | Reply

Read the above. Eat the crow.