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Saturday, September 29, 2007

Freedom's Watch, the surge-protecting advocacy group whose founders include former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, is taking on another mission: Making the case that Iran poses a direct threat to the security of the United States.

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Mr. Fleischer said: "After the president announced the surge, and even Republicans started getting nervous, there was a palpable fear among several of us that this fall Congress was going to cut off the funding and the Middle East would explode and America would likely get hit. It really wasn't much more complicated than that."

Over the summer, Mr. Fleischer and the other founders recruited a president, choosing Mr. Blakeman, who served as a deputy assistant to the president in charge of scheduling and appointments. In 2000, Mr. Blakeman led the Bush-Cheney campaign's public relations effort during the 36 days of the deadlocked election. He left the White House in January 2004.

Mr. Blakeman and Mr. Fleischer said they intended to turn Freedom's Watch into a permanent fixture among Washington advocacy groups, waging a "never-ending campaign" on an array of foreign policy and domestic issues. They also hope to build an active, grass-roots support network.

But Eli Pariser, the executive director of MoveOn.org, which was founded in 1998 by two Silicon Valley venture capitalists, said he doubted the group's ability to meet that goal.

"This is the fourth or the fifth group that intends to be the right-wing MoveOn," Mr. Pariser said, naming other fledgling groups like TheVanguard.org and Grassfire.org. "So far, it's not clear that this group is anything other than a big neoconservative slush fund. They are a White House front group with a few consultants who are trying to make a very unpopular position on the war appear more palpable."

Like Freedom's Watch, MoveOn had its origins in an attempt by wealthy political donors, including George Soros, to shape the debate in Washington. MoveOn began shortly after the Starr report was delivered to Congress in September 1998, detailing accusations of perjury and obstruction of justice against President Bill Clinton.

Already, Freedom's Watch and MoveOn have clashed through competing advertisements over Gen. David H. Petraeus's war progress report to Congress earlier this month.

In one Freedom's Watch ad, Sgt. John Kriesel, a National Guardsman from Stillwater, Minn., who lost his legs in a bomb attack near Falluja, pleads with Congress and the American people not to "surrender" in Iraq. As the screen shows a still photograph of the second hijacked plane bearing down on the burning World Trade Center, Sergeant Kriesel adds, "They attacked us, and they will again. They won't stop in Iraq."

Several of the group's spots suggested that Iraq, rather than Al Qaeda, was behind the Sept. 11 attacks, even though the independent Sept. 11 commission investigation and other inquiries found no evidence of Iraq's involvement. But in August, when the organization rolled out the advertisement with Sergeant Kriesel to two focus groups in Pennsylvania, its upbeat, patriotic message was well received, even causing a few viewers to weep, Mr. Blakeman said.

"The focus groups couldn't tell whether it was a Republican ad or a Democratic ad," he said. "It was the voice of a soldier, and that's the message we want to deliver to Americans: listen to the opinions of real people."

The campaign was seen as a way to head off any momentum in Congress toward halting the financing for the Iraq war. The group's advertisements, placed in nearly 60 Congressional districts in 23 states, targeted wavering moderate Republicans and conservative Democrats.

Freedom's Watch also pounced on MoveOn.org's full-page "General Betray Us" advertisement published Sept. 10 in The New York Times. Mr. Bush called the advertisement "disgusting." Both chambers of Congress passed resolutions condemning the advertisement. The New York Times was also embroiled in the debate after giving MoveOn a discounted price for the advertisement, which the newspaper later acknowledged was a mistake. MoveOn has since agreed to pay the difference.

That advertisement, Mr. Blakeman said, "was an unexpected gift," allowing Freedom's Watch to "take the high road" and demonstrate that it is a "conservative voice that is not divisive."

Mr. Pariser, of MoveOn, said his group's grass-roots membership -- it claims 3.3 million members -- was the envy of Freedom's Watch. "I think people see that Freedom's Watch is a few billionaires, and not a large, mainstream constituency," he said.

Mr. Blakeman denied the accusation that Freedom's Watch is a White House front group. "I don't need their help," he said of his former colleagues at the White House. "I don't seek their help. And they don't offer it." Mr. Blakeman is a long-time friend of Ed Gillespie, the new counselor to Mr. Bush who succeeded Dan Bartlett. Mr. Blakeman said that he spoke frequently with Mr. Gillespie, but that they were careful not to discuss the activities of Freedom's Watch.

Mr. Fleischer said Freedom's Watch was not coordinating with the White House and had an agenda beyond the Bush administration. "On Jan. 21, 2009, what will these critics say when we are still here, doing the same thing?" he said. "We will still be here after George Bush is gone."
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These Chicken Hawks Slay Me !!

Go To War Go To War !!! Bomb Bomb Bomb !!!

Me Go ? Hell No !!!

If You Ever Get The Chance Watch The Movie "Iron Giant" The Government Agent in It Is The Classic Chicken Hawk.

Bill Maher - Chickenhawk down

youtube.com

Mr. Chicken Hawk

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-Sarge

.........don't these idiots ever learn ?......

".........don't these idiots ever learn ?......"

On one level, apparently not.

Then again, there are some people who've made a shitpile of dough off of Bush's war of choice.

War been very good to me.
Sincerely,
GOPiggy Public Trough Suckers

Randy Rhodes vs a chickenhawk

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-Sarge

Yeah, Sarge---The little twerp states: "I support the Yankees but I don't wear the uniform".

I'm sure Mr. Twenty-four-year-old can't play ball worth a damn. But I'd wager the Army could find some little something he could do in Iraq.

Iran doesn't have the industrial machine that Hitler created. A more serious problem is China. While we have been bogged down in Iraq spending a billion dollars a week China has modernized its weaponry to the point its air defenses are virtually impenetratable.
ap.google.com

Can't imagine why Ari Fleisher would want U.S boys to shed their blood for Israel, can you?

Is there anyone in our U.S. Congress that doesn't kiss butt and/or work directly for the benefit of the government of Israel? If Israel wants to nuke Iran -- be my guest. But don't think you're going to drag my country into another war for you.

I'm tired of Israel and the Israeli lobbyists having more say so over our Congress than U.S. citizens do. It's OUR blood being shed -- not Israels.

A REAL friend would not constantly be trying to get our country into ANOTHER war when we are in hock up to our necks in the one in Iraq and our military is stretched to the limit. Maybe Israel isn't such a "good pal" to the U.S. afterall. I never had anything against Israel before until I've started really looking at the situation lately and I, as an AMERICAN, feel my country is being used by Israel for their own agenda.

from www.rense.com
)Ari Fleischer -- [Former] Official White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration. Prominent in the Jewish community, some reports state that he holds Israeli citizenship.

Fleischer is closely connected to the extremist Jewish group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics, who follow the Qabala, and hold very extremist and insulting views of non-Jews. Fleischer was the co-president of Chabad's Capitol Jewish Forum. He received the Young Leadership Award from the American Friends of Lubavitch in October, 2001.

Those Iranians florists better be set for a run on flowers to throw to our troops.

I hear the swiss are stepping up chocolate production.

Freedom's Watch is just another misnomer for "Sleazy Pro Israel Zionists!!! These assholes are the world's real terrorists!

Bio from the Wicki:

Personal life

Mr. Fleischer's brother, Michael, worked for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq.

He is on the board of the Republican Jewish Coalition.

These assholes are the world's real terrorists!

Posted by AntiCadillac at 2007-09-29 08:38 PM


Maybe GZ Whines can shed some light on why the leach called Israel has such a firm grip on the balls of this country.

Ok I want to know why Israel wants perpetual War?? It seems like they thrive upon the misery of others. I would love to know a few things GZLives.

1 Why is it ok for Israel to have Weapons including Nuclear Weapons but if someone else wants them in the middle east it's hell no they can't have them.

2Don't You think Israel is just as responsible for the hate directed towards them as is the ones directing the hate.

3 Why can't Israel do anything wrong in Your eyes but everyone else is in the wrong and should be punished.

4Does Israel EVER want true peace ?? Or is that wishful thinking on My part??

Help Me to understand it because I don't.


Larry

PS DO NOT Call Me an Anti Semite cause I am NOT. The ONLY I repeat ONLY beef I have with regards to Jews is the circumsision bit.

Fucking Anti Semite.

Hey itsme if I wanted any lip from You I would have gotten it off of My Zipper thank You very much oh and I don't like Blow Jobs so You see I don't want Your lip anyways. You dig???

Larry

Quotations


"If Saddam Hussein indicates that he has weapons of mass destruction and that he is violating United Nations resolutions, then we will know that Saddam Hussein again deceived the world. If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world"


0-2

Deceiving and Lying goes together like Ari Fleischer and well me!

You dig???

Posted by LarryMohr at 2007-09-29 09:16 PM


Check out Twinkie trying to be a bad ass!

That was sarcasm, Asshat.

You dig????? Too funny.

I don't think 400 pounders are called Twinkies not by a long shot. Oh and if that is sarcasm You sure failed at delivery mightily.

Larry

Bloated Twinkie?

"I don't think 400 pounders are called Twinkies not by a long shot. "

Larry, for God's sake, don't think "Twinkies" if Gozer is around.

Dr. Peter Venkman: How's the grid holding up?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Not good.
Winston Zeddemore: Tell him about the Twinkie.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What about the Twinkie?
"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria."

Hans

Sorry but Twinkies do not get bloated. When they get old the become hard cream filled mini logs. try again.

Larry

Yeah. I'd love to play, Slim but I hear life calling.

ROFLMMFAO. Too funny Hans.

Larry

There is absolutely nothing Ari Fleischer could possibly be hawking that I'd ever, in a million fucking years, be interested in. I remember watching him during the 2000 presidential campaign debacle and thinking, "What kind of dumbfuck candidate would put a putz like this---or a schmuck like Karen Hughes---out as their public face?" Answer: George "Saddam Killed All the Mandelas" Bin Bush. Fuck Ari Fleischer and ANYTHING he's pushing. This guy is poison, worse than a goddamn crank lab operator.

With Bush and Co swaggering around talking about axis of evil and all that tired old horse shit the Iranians would be stupid to just sit quietly and wait for the bombing.

Speaking of swaggering, I was watching something on television the other night, and Bush came literally bounding onto the scene with a really incredible strut and the usual smirk.

The dirty little no clue bastard still thinks he is important.

We'll see how important he was 478 days from now... or in other words a seeming eternity from now... crum !

Fleischer Group Wants Confrontation with Iran

So let 'em. I doubt if they got the guns to do it, though.

I love it these pricks want the US to confront Iran when the pussy prez wouldn't even confront Amadenijad at the UN.

hhm......yeah I can see where libs wouldnt want this group to do anything.....they might have to tell the punk from tehran that he wont be able to come and talk to students and have dinner with media pricks......not while his country is supplying things that are killing american men and women......

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo we cant have any confrontation with this nut.........the world might see him for what he is....I believe the head liberal administrator called him.....'petty dictator'.......was that it?

and besides......if it were to actually help out in this war on terror.....liberals in this country would be all in a funk........success in iraq???
the WORST thing for a liberal to even think about........

Freedom's Watch!

Don't you just love the cutsie names these people come up with?

Like anybody's going to be fooled at this stage of the game. LOL

"Freedom's Death Watch" would be more in line with the truth about this group.

...success in iraq???
the WORST thing for a liberal to even think about........

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-09-30 02:16 AM


Not really -- it's the Diebold paperless trail e-voting machines in 2008 are what keep me tossing and turning at night.

why are Drudge Retort liberals againts bombing Iran?
1) Iran is run by a dictator and liberals love dictators (and dick taters, but thats for another thread)
2)Iran is attacking US troops, and liberals think US troops are all evil nazis.
3)Iran wants to destroy Israel and liberals hate Joooos even more than they hate US troops.
4) MOST OF ALL they are afraid that the American public will rally behind Bush once the ass-kicking begins.

... MOST OF ALL they are afraid that the American public will rally behind Bush once the ass-kicking begins....,

Ohhhh, I think I can safely say that any "rally behind Bush days" are long gone.

Iran is attacking US troops, and liberals think US troops are all evil nazis....,

Saudi Arabia is funding and sending arms to the Sunnis in Iraq which are used to supply Iraq Sunni insurgents and al-Qaeda (also Sunnis) to kill our troops. Why don't we nuke Bush's best buddies -- the House of Saud?

I jus luvs it when righty tightys get all huffy when their boys on the hill get shown for the shitheads they are. They go right into oh those bad bad libs hate america... oh those meanies love Iran... oh those naughty libs are such traitors...

So far you assholes are batting zero... everything your iinept little boy toy in washington has touched has turned to shit... we keep telling you and you get mad at the messenger.

Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews
video.google.com

Iran is attacking US troops, and liberals think US troops are all evil nazis.

As usual, you misrepresent a position because you have no real point to make.

No one is rooting for Iran, with the SOLE exception of Iranians. Even the other muslim states dislike them and want to see them contained. Liberals are only guilty of pointing out that it was perfectly obvious that Iran was going to try to fuck with us in Iraq. They have a legit interest in the outcome, if we wanted them to stay on the sidelines we should have sat down with them when THEY approached US soon after the invasion when we were still in a position of strength. Instead, we blew them off, and now Dubya and Friends are actually surprised to find they might be working against us. How Unpredictable!

When are you guys going to realize that the White House is run by a bunch of retards just making this shit up as they go along?

Iran is run by a dictator and liberals love dictators (and dick taters, but thats for another thread)

Please. Just a few of the dictators Republican administrations are directly responsible for putting into power or maintaining:

Saddam Hussein (Iraq)
Manuel Noriega (Panama)
The Shah of Iran (Iran)
Lon Nol (Cambodia)
Ferdinand Marcos (Phillippines)

And on and on.

You guys have always preferred to deal with friendly dictators over democracies. Bush must just be driving you guys nuts with all his democracy talk. Oddly enough, his insistance on breaking with the past strategy this way is one of the few things I respect him for, slightly.

There is no such thing as the Jewish race.
No such thing as a secular Jew.
The holocaust was the greatest fraud ever engineered before man, second only to the "first" lie of the ancient inhabitants and society of the Judean Plains.
You can not eliminate a race that has never existed.
That is what pisses them off the most. They know science has already exposed the lies and frauds of this claim.
Funny, pathetic fools.
Made even funnier, when they bad mouth the 2nd century ideology of muslims, from a - 40 century mind-set.
Hilarious.

"The holocaust was the greatest fraud ever engineered before man, second only to the "first" lie of the ancient inhabitants and society of the Judean Plains"

I can't believe you are allowed to roam the streets. First, dressing your daughter up as a teen and watching the feeding frenzy when you deliberately take her to a bar to get hit on....and now you believe the holocaust was a fraud.

You are one twisted, sick individual! Someone needs to put you in a straight jacket!!

Lisa,
Of course the holucost happened, but the Zionists have used it as a political tool to do the same thing to the Palistinians.
Watch these and please give your opinion.

The Easiest Targets: The Israeli Policy of Strip Searching Women and Children
April 9, 2007

ifamericansknew.blogsome.com

Palestinian Children.
vids.myspace.com

4) MOST OF ALL they are afraid that the American public will rally behind Bush once the ass-kicking begins.

Posted by fuckyou
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Yea right! Like more of the same in Iraq? A billion dollars a week and the only reason the fighting is down is because Al Sadr told his factions to stand down. We can't even come up with enough body armor let alone more troops. Get your head out of your ass.

I really should spell check more often!

BTW; anyone who still believes in the war is a sick chickenhearted death freak, that just enjoys the thought of killing. Or really studip.

Stupid!!!
Damn!
And I have had my coffee.

I really should spell check more often!

Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2007-09-30 07:44 AM

BTW; anyone who still believes in the war is a sick chickenhearted death freak, that just enjoys the thought of killing. Or really studip.

Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2007-09-30 07:47 AM


You really have to love a good self-retort.

The sad reality is that a good portion of the sheeple will buy into this.

When are you guys going to realize that the White House is run by a bunch of retards just making this shit up as they go along?

Posted by argh

No.. they are incapable of differentiating fact from fiction.They are mad because TWICE they voted to put this dickbag into office. This speaks volumes regarding their judgment or lack thereof.

The truth hurts.
Too bad for you.
The holocaust is a lie.
For it to be true, there would have to be a Jewish race, and there has never been a Jewish race.
Only an ancient society that wrapped themselves in fraud upon humanity, claiming persecution even when willfully engaged in the persecution of other societies.
There was a world war. Tens of millions died. Many societies and persons who spoke different languages different religions and national philosophies, yet every one of them the same race- man.

Your allegience to negative 40th century philosophy and ideology is depressing at times.

Not.

Just dangerous.

Stop bogarting that joint

If there's one thing the Bush presidency has taught us it's not to listen to anything that a bunch of megalomaniac right wing billionaires has to say. Especially when their previous effort to groom a halfwit prick with a famous name for the presidency have been successful.

Fuck Fleischer and the assholes he rode in on.

I think we all are getting a little tired of small, egotistical, effeminate little white men who have fucked this county up maybe fatally, beating on their undersized chest by trying to subjugate other countries.

It's getting old.

we keep telling you and you get mad at the messenger.

Posted by bushskank at 2007-09-30 04:21 AM | Reply


but the message is usually filled with innuendos and bullshit and typical liberal misrepresentations........and we have taken that shit for so long that now we say.......NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"The holocaust was the greatest fraud ever engineered before man"


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Back on topic, if these nutjobs want to fight Iran, I wish they'd go do it.

Peculiar last names:

David
Fleischer
Adelson
Blakeman
and last but certainly not least, Mel Sembler.

Why do the Jews have such a kung fu grip on the balls of this once great nation?

We can't even come up with enough body armor let alone more troops. Get your head out of your ass.

Posted by reznwerks

when have you ever turned on the news and saw footage of US troops kicking down doors without body armor? The number 1 complaint in the sandbox is that they have to wear too much armor: side SAPI plates, DAPS, throat protectors amd groin protectors along with the OTV with front and back SAPI plates. Infantrymen are wearing about 30 lbs of armor in addition to all their other gear.

is all the liberals can do is keep parroting the same talking points that were disproven years ago?

is all the liberals can do is keep parroting the same talking points that were disproven years ago?

Like Saddam's WMDs? Or his connections to 911? Etc., etc.

and besides......if it were to actually help out in this war on terror.....liberals in this country would be all in a funk........success in iraq???
the WORST thing for a liberal to even think about........

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-09-30 02:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

You silly girl, get out a map and have a look at the land mass or Iran. What troops do you propose we invade Iran with? What money do we use? Just keep asking China for more cash to fund the war?

Bush and BL2, selling out America to the their commie buddies in China.

Bush and BL2, selling out America to the their commie buddies at AIPAC. And Hillary ain't all that much better.

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