Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Al Gore on Wednesday called for governments to make job creation and measures to address climate change compatible and urged President George W. Bush to commit to mandatory cuts in carbon dioxide emissions. "What we need is a global Marshall plan to make the creation of jobs around the reduction of carbon the central principle for how we develop this," he told the opening session of the Clinton Global Initiative.

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To which George replied that he would fart whenever he damn well pleased, blame it on whomever he wanted, and still laugh his ass off about it.

Kinda like Iraq.

Hold on to your wallets folks!

In order to convice developing nations to join a global warming framework, the developed nations will apparently have to help with technolog transfer. What a nice little scam this is. Our economies are going to go into the toilet and to add insutl to injury, we will have to help developing nations. And then Liberals will complain that it's campitalism and free markets thar are resposible for job loss in America.

Who's Al Gore again? Is he the one with white hair? Or the fat one?

Algore calling for saving the environment is kinda like John Edwards speaking in favor of tort reform.

When Al gets a private nuclear plant to power his 50,000-square-foot estate which uses more power than a small city) then maybe he'll have something to say.

In the meantime, he could give up the private jets and fly commercial. He could buy the entire First Class section; it would be just like a private jet, with his own stewardess and free liquor!

""What we need is a global Marshall plan to make the creation of jobs ...."

Any chance that Gore's business, Generation Investment Management, would benefit from a few hundred billion in green spending? GIM doesn't actually produce anything, they just move money around and skim off their fees.

Algore just can't get off the government dole.

his own stewardess and free liquor!

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear!

Ah swear, that always kills me. Ah wanted ta hang a sign that said that in the Oval Office, but Hillary said no.

Sincerely,
Bill Clinton

Politicians will always find a way, Vern.

In the meantime, he could give up the private jets and fly commercial. He could buy the entire First Class section; it would be just like a private jet, with his own stewardess and free liquor!

Posted by vernon at 2007-09-26 05:40 PM |


Sounds like enough room to invite a comrade and barely legal chubby little intern to boot.

Such a deal.

Nah , al's not after any money. He's just out to save the planet, he does it all for free.

Mr. Gore, why don't you "fight global warming" by downsizing your living quarters, and by not flying about in a private jet. Moderate your own life style.You know the drill. Why not cut your conspicuous consumption as an example to us all.

Good grief Mr. Gore, I recognize that my suggestion is ridiculous. After all, you are an acolyte of the late lamented Leona Helmsly, who distinguished the way she lived her life from the ways of "the little people." You have a lifelong entitlement Mr. Gore as do your family and friends. Sorry for the intemperate observation.

What the hell is a "green job" anyway. How about getting China and India to put out their coal fires which produce as much greenhouse gas per year as all of the U.S.A.'s autos?

Former Vice President Al Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself,


www.newsbusters.org

Never any coruption in dem politicians.

Former Vice President Al Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can't afford to play on Gore's terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years.

Here's a list indicating what it takes to make money along with Al. Funds associated with these companies have placed millions of dollars under Al Gore's control. And, as you'll see below, Gore's selection for the US President of GIM might raise a few eyebrows as well.

AFLAC INC - AQUANTIVE INC - AUTODESK INC - BECTON DICKINSON & CO BLACKBAUD INC - GENERAL ELECTRIC CO - GREENHILL & CO INC - JOHNSON CTLS INC - LABORATORY CORP AMER HLDGS - METABOLIX INC - NORTHERN TR CORP - NUVEEN INVTS INC -STAPLES INC - SYSCO CORP - TECHNE CORP - UBS AG - VCA ANTECH INC - WATERS CORP - WHOLE FOODS MKT INC


Corporations = bad cry the liberals.

Global warming. Global warming men have named you.

After all, if you can't trust George Soros, who can you trust. If you can't trust "scientist Hansen" leading the charge against global warming, who can you trust?

Well, try this site.

www.investors.com

I recognize that all of you folks respect the disinterested integrity of the neutral scientists who disseminate "information" on global warming. Oops! You didn't know that the man in the forefront, Mr. Hansen, received circa $720,000 from Soros, so that Mr. Hansen may not be quite that disinterested. After all, there is a cash cow to milk.

Democracy: George Soros is known for funding groups such as MoveOn.org that seek to manipulate public opinion. So why is the billionaire's backing of what he believes in problematic? In a word: transparency.

George Soros & MoveOn.org: Exclusive Series

How many people, for instance, know that James Hansen, a man billed as a lonely "NASA whistleblower" standing up to the mighty U.S. government, was really funded by Soros' Open Society Institute , which gave him "legal and media advice"?

That's right, Hansen was packaged for the media by Soros' flagship "philanthropy," by as much as $720,000, most likely under the OSI's "politicization of science" program.

That may have meant that Hansen had media flacks help him get on the evening news to push his agenda and lawyers pressuring officials to let him spout his supposedly "censored" spiel for weeks in the name of advancing the global warming agenda.

Hansen even succeeded, with public pressure from his nightly news performances, in forcing NASA to change its media policies to his advantage. Had Hansen's OSI-funding been known, the public might have viewed the whole production differently. The outcome could have been different.

That's not the only case. Didn't the mainstream media report that 2006's vast immigration rallies across the country began as a spontaneous uprising of 2 million angry Mexican-flag waving illegal immigrants demanding U.S. citizenship in Los Angeles, egged on only by a local Spanish-language radio announcer?

Turns out that wasn't what happened, either. Soros' OSI had money-muscle there, too, through its $17 million Justice Fund. The fund lists 19 projects in 2006. One was vaguely described involvement in the immigration rallies. Another project funded illegal immigrant activist groups for subsequent court cases.

So what looked like a wildfire grassroots movement really was a manipulation from OSI's glassy Manhattan offices. The public had no way of knowing until the release of OSI's 2006 annual report.

Oh well. So much for appearances. The Grey Eminence lives.

"Mr. Gore, why don't you "fight global warming" by downsizing your living quarters, and by not flying about in a private jet. Moderate your own life style.You know the drill. Why not cut your conspicuous consumption as an example to us all."

Mr. Vitter, why don't you "support family values" by downsizing your libdo, and my not going to Louisiana whore houses. Moderate your life style. You know the drill. Why not stop your conspicuous fornication as an example to us all.

Mr. Craig, why don't you "support family values" by downsizing your libdo, and my not going to Minneapolis airport bathrooms. Moderate your life style. You know the drill. Why not stop your conspicuous fornication as an example to us all.

Mr. Haggard, why don't you "support family values" by downsizing your libdo, and my not doing meth and getting "backrubs." Moderate your life style. You know the drill. Why not stop your conspicuous fornication as an example to us all.

Mr. Foley, why don't you "support family values" by downsizing your libdo, and my IMing male teenagers. Moderate your life style. You know the drill. Why not stop your conspicuous fornication as an example to us all.

Hans

Say, water vapor is supposed to influence the greenhouse effect more than CO2. Why isn't control of water vapor an issue. Is it because it is uncontrollable, or is it because thee is no apparent profit center available in trading "water vapor credits?"

Pretty sly these fellows, and pretty gullible those of us taken in by "sincere" con men. It's money out of our pockets with no viable return.

We Americans get our pollution from China, the worlds biggest polluter, as it wafts across the sea. But we still need to produce some of our own. Come on.

Mr. Gore is doing his fair share with his extravagant scale of living. He, himself, is probably producing as much pollution as possibly 200 of those of us who are laggards. Mea culpa, Mr. Gore. Mea culpa. I'm going to get myself a 32 room house and a private jet immediately, so that I can cooperate in the effort to curtail pollution.

Global Warming, Jesus, Satan and the Easter Bunny walk in to a room and each sit in a chair facing each other. There is a $10,000.00 bill in the middle of the room with Al Gore's picture on it. Not the small face, but the really BIG face.

WHO GETS THE LOOT FIRST?

Hans at 2007-09-26 06:03 PM

Hey Hans, I'm for all that too. Does that detract from the insinuation that Mr. Gore is insincere and self-aggrandizing? Do you support the questions directed to Mr. Gore? Or are you an ideologue who would exempt him from inquiry.

By the way Hans, some people getting their rocks off with a whore, in a toilet stall, in a bath house, or wherever, does not affect my life situation. I don't care about that. As far as I'm concerned, they could collect all of their semen, combine it, and pour it down a toilet in the Senate or House of Representatives.

It doesn't affect my standard of living or life style, nor does it take any money out of my pocket. Those fellows you mention are not profiteers. I don't care what the sexual practices of other people are. But that seems to be your interest.

Are you interested in issues that involve dollars and sense, bread and butter issues, such as the so-called global warming response? Do you think that Mr. Gore is sincere? Do you think that he'll follow his usual m.o., and end up with a benefit from his "public undertakings?" Do you care? Or are you more concerned with sexual practices of other people, being sort of a voyeuristic kind of guy?

"Say, water vapor is supposed to influence the greenhouse effect more than CO2."

Uh huh.
It stabilizes the temperature through negative feedback; clouds.

As for Gore, it's been too late for years.

"Global warming -- through a combination of melting glaciers, disappearing ice sheets and warmer waters expanding -- is expected to cause oceans to rise by one meter, or about 39 inches. It will happen regardless of any future actions to curb greenhouse gases,"
www.cnn.com

The Northwest Passage is open.

Maybe Al buys his jet fuel through one of this companies subsideries?

www.thenation.com

"WHO GETS THE LOOT FIRST?"


It's Jesus
Cause all the rest are a figment of your fucking imagination.



Well satan is supposed to be santa claus but you get the joke.

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here's a link that contains thousands of links on scietific evidence on global warming, I know right wingers won't review them, they need to believe Rush:
gristmill.grist.org

rigties say "..no proof", because their eyes are covered with a Rush picture

2 tables
1. stacked to the ceiling with proof of global warming (peer reviewed)
2. proof on opposite view point, this table got one sheet, a picture of Rush, no evidence.

all the righties are grouped around the second table shouting "liberals are traitors", they don't know what peer reviewed means, the only proof got is "soro pays hanson"

in the future, when your grandchild asks you why you ignored global warming, you should think of a better answer than "Rush said so"
Ignorance must be catchy! may be a good idea to review all those links so your gerandkids won't laugh at you. but we all know they will ignore it, really sad! (and stupid_

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Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-09-26 07:


Are you alright?

Onna
The ice has melted; The tipping point has passed; Give it up.

Homo Sapiens isn't worth it.

So in other words I should become a Gigalo and only wear Green Condoms huh??

Larry

"Are you alright?"

Posted by CalifChris

I ain't in California.
That's a start.

God has promised us that He will never flood the earth again and I believe that.

Larry

Climate cooling, be afraid
Climate warming, be afraid.
Climate changing, be afraid.

When environmentalists were raising alarms over global cooling, I used to think that a warming climate would shut them up. Boy, I was wrong.

"When environmentalists were raising alarms over global cooling"

When was that?
Prior to 1825?

Ray
you are an idiot, that global cooling story was in Newsweek, it was not peer reviewed nor supported by any scientist, and was not in any scientific journal, but right wingers love that story and refer to it often - really STUPID!
check these links if you got the guts:
gristmill.grist.org
www.nasa.gov

Mr. Vitter, why don't you "support family values" by...

Mr. Craig, why don't you "support family values" by...

Mr. Haggard, why don't you "support family values" by...

Mr. Foley, why don't you "support family values" by...

Posted by Hans at 2007-09-26 06:03 PM | Reply

How weak is your point of view Hans, that you can't defend the Redeemer of Planet Earth on his own merits? Did 'family values' even appear in the article?

Your Dear Savior takes a little flack here, and the only thing you have is criticism for others? Algore is not a politician or a TV preacher (well, maybe) but the best you got is lame-ass deflection?

The views of your Precious Savior are so weak that this is the best you have? Algore can't stand on his own, with acolytes like you to take the bullet?

Here's something for you to hum to yourself:

"Beautiful Savior"
Author Unknown, 1677
Translated by Joseph A. Seiss, 1823-1904

Beautiful Savior,
King of Creation,
Son of God and Son of Man!
Truly I'd love Thee,
Truly I'd serve Thee,
Light of my soul, my Joy, my Crown.


When was that?
Prior to 1825?

Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-09-26 08:49 PM | Reply
1978, retard

Just for the record, Algore did, once, produce something of value.

Tobacco.

And he took a government subsidy check for growing it.

Onna

It's late for me to do all that reading tonight. I bookmarked it.

Frankly, whether it is human caused or not, I don't give a shit. But when I see government get involved, then I know it's going to cost plenty and accomplish nothing.

And for the record, I'm an anarchist.

The county is out there spraying for mosquitos right now, shit I HATE it when that happens it really fucks up my bees and other pollinators for days. I mean don't get me wrong I hate mossies as much as the next person but spraying toxic fumes into my breathing air is not the solution. Damn.

As for global warming Gore can go fuck himself until he is living in a 1000 square foot house with solar power, is flying commercial, driving a hybrid and Tipper is hanging their laundry out on a line to dry.

you want expensive , check the military plan on dealing with the effects of global warming, just google "military plan global warming"

Rush got his degree in climatology from "Dumb Shit U", so be prepared to explain to your grandchildren why you were a global warming denier.
"Gramps, why did you do nothing?", well Rush the scientist told me (Rush is an entertainer, a comic, not a scientist)

Onna
Are you still calling me a global warming denier? Don't be an ass. I like global warming.

ray "Are you still calling me a global warming denier"

when you wrote you don't believe humans are part of the problem, I believed you, sorry.

Here's one for worriers like Onna and Zat.

We're all gonna die!
"But it won't be from germ warfare, runaway nanobots, or shifting magnetic poles. A skeptical guide to Doomsday"

Onna

That's not the same as denying global warming.

Ray,

but what is the fun in debating global warming unless you blame it on you and me? Merely admitting it's existence used to enough. It's not anymore.

"How weak is your point of view Hans..."

Not at all... but thanks for your concern.

Meanwhile, here's something for you to hum to yourself, vern:

Add it on, add it on, here is how you do it:
Take and shake the bigger number...Add the smaller number to it.
8+3
Take 8 Shake it... 9,10,11
8+3=11
Add it on, add it on, here is how you do it:
Take and shake the bigger number...Add the smaller number to it.
Hans

Eberly
This is too much like religion - Man will pay for his sins if he doesn't obey the high priests. As bad as the state of our economy is now, these people want to wreck it even more.

stick it up your ass.
I am so sick of these eco-nazis telling everyone what the fuck to do all the time. They think they are so smart and superior that they have to continually teach and preach to everyone how to save the environment.
Some eco-nazi plastered print-outs of pages from an environmentalist website all over the laundry room in my apartment building. It was all propaganda that said "do this. do that". I guess its ok for someone to kill trees by wasting dozens of pages of paper in ordered to teach me to recycle paper and compost my orange peels.
I ripped down all the pages and threw them in the trash.

you know I watched Mega Disasters last night on Discovery Channel and it was about global warming. They presented all this "evidence" of tropical islands sinking due to rising sea-level.
The funny thing is, I have been living on a tropical island (in Hawaii) right across the street from the beach for the last 10 years and I we haven't had any such effects.

Someone please explain how water from melting ice caps have gone straight to the shores of those islands but not to mine?

FUCKYOU says "stick it up your ass"
my point is that these anti global warming people are ignorant, thank FUCKYOU, for helping to prove this point, very well done. I appreciate you complete lack of intellignce, keep up the good work!

Fuck You-
You don't seem to be a reliable source of information. Could you be more specific about what the program claimed?

Onna: What's your obsession with Rush Limbaugh?

You think that all you hafta do is accuse someone of listening to Rush and they will scurry away in terror? Ooooooooo ........ everyone is now scared. Finally! :-P

What a fucking geek!

Have you spent the last 10 years on MoveOn and NewDemoCrapMajority? You expect everyone to kiss your ass, blow your dick and tell you that you are brilliant?

What a total fucking loser!

You got some arguments? Present them!

Otherwise, go home to the farm. All th field hands miss the sheep they all line up to fuck.

I'm glad to see that Hans sees the light.

I only hope that the light is from a solar source, and has a neutral carbon impact. That way Hans can eat cold beans in the dark while his Sweet Savior, Algore, flies a private jet to Europe.

Keep the faith, Brother Hans! Your reward awaits you in the next life (if Holy Father Algore permits it).

All praise be to Father Algore, giver of life. Amen.

Posted by Litlebritdifrnt at 2007-09-26 09:06 PM

As for global warming Gore can go fuck himself until he is living in a 1000 square foot house with solar power, is flying commercial, driving a hybrid and Tipper is hanging their laundry out on a line to dry.

Amen.

This message should be posted everyplace that the Tennessee hypocrite presents his message.

Since Soros and Gore are riding in the same boat, and Soros is a master currency manipulator who thinks in epic terms, I think that it would be wise to heed the old French caution, "Cherchez l'argent."

Mr. Gore seems similar to other High Priests (and clerics generally) in that he believes in his own superior entitlement, and unashamedly and unabashedly pursues it.

Are the global warming folks, who are proclaiming the sea level rise as imminent, selling their beach property? What about the Hollywood Malibu Colony? Are they true believers, or only in it for the socialization and possible business connections. If you hang around money long enough, you may acquire some.

It seems that the Malibu Colony people aren't putting their properties up for sale. Now does that make sense in view of the dire predictions? What's the time-frame for the inundation?

Johnson-
How much was Nicole Simpson "asking for it" when she was brutally murdered?

"As for global warming Gore can go fuck himself until he is living in a 1000 square foot house with solar power, is flying commercial, driving a hybrid and Tipper is hanging their laundry out on a line to dry."

As for family values Vitter can go fuck himself until he stops going to whore houses in Louisiana, and starts keeping his marriage vows.

Amen.

This message should be posted everyplace that the Louisiana hypocrite presents his message.

Hans

Johnson-
While I'm on the topic of you being an ignorant blowhard:

re: During estrus, women who are then fertile prefer one type of man for possible insemination, and when not in estrus, have a different preference.

"Women" don't experience estrus. Dogs do, so maybe that's where you're confused.


Johnson-
Here's a question for you:

Should I take someones comments seriously on any matter who claims that a murder victim was "asking for it" or that humans are subject to "estrus"?

(Do you have a time machine, and can you go back?)

Hans - your retort makes no fucking sense. This is not related to the global warming cult whatsoever so why the hell are you posting such crap? I mean really, other than to deflect that the ex- VP is a fucking carbon generating hypocrit. Damn you people are so lame.

"your retort makes no fucking sense"

You call Gore a "fucking carbon generating hypocrit (sic)."

I call Vitter, etc. fucking moral hypocrites.

Until your fuckers stop being hypocritical then you have no grounds to call others hypocrites.

Hans

As for family values Haggard can go fuck himself until he stops using meth and getting "backrubs" from male prostitutes, and starts keeping his marriage vows.

Amen.

This message should be posted everyplace that the Colorado hypocrite presents his message.

Hans

As for family values Craig can go fuck himself until he stops trolling for men in Minneapolis airport bathrooms, and starts keeping his marriage vows.

Amen.

This message should be posted everyplace that the Idaho hypocrite presents his message.

Hans

As for family values Vitter can go fuck himself until he stops

Posted by Hans at 2007-09-26 10:46 PM | Reply

Hans,

You are the jackass who brought up Vitter. And 'family values' for that matter.

You thought all your Liberal cockroaches would join you and somehow, through sheer volume, scream down the questions.

Pretty desperate for a way out, ehh? Just stop responding. You can't win, and you know it. Just go away.

Hans

Okay so let us get this straight, we are talking about global warming, or climate change (depending on who you listen to) here, in a post where I am slamming the ex-vp for being a global warming hypocrit you post something about a moral hypocrit, it has absolutely nothing to do with this post, I mean absolutely nothing, I can post a million bits about democrats fucking pages in the next posts but it has no relevance to the subject matter at hand. The fact is that Gore is a global warming hypocrit of the fucking first order and nothing you can say will deflect that, the minute I see Tipper hanging her laundry out on a line is the minute I will listen to Gore preaching to me about global warming.

Reading our resident rightwingers whine about Al Gore being a hypocrite is always good for a late night laugh. The gung ho supporters of GWB are up in arms because of hypocrisy? LOL

just go away. We all understand.

Hey Vernon why should I join in Hans is doing superbly all by Himself.

Larry

Hans-
re: As for family values Craig can go fuck himself...

It seems as if that got old.... required some mixing up in a public restroom just to keep the mojo alive...

The gung ho supporters of GWB are up in arms because of hypocrisy? LOL

Posted by moder8 at 2007-09-26 11:15 PM | Reply

Another hysterical poster! Finish your vodka and go to sleep. Your Welfare check will arrive on schedule.

When, Moder, did anybody say ANYTHING about Bush? You are more pathetic than Hans when it comes to distractions and distortions. So this is life in cartoon land?br />

Is Algore so lame and sorry that this is all you can do?

Tell me, Vernon, do you believe in global warming? If so, what's your grief with Gore?

Vernon-
Ever seen "W" on a horse, on his "ranch"?

Or anywhere?

Just for Vernon:

Vicente Fox, the former president of Mexico, derided his political friend as a "windshield cowboy" a cowboy who prefers to drive and "the cockiest guy I have ever met in my life".

He recalled a meeting in Mexico shortly after both men had been elected when Mr Fox offered Mr Bush a ride on a "big palomino" horse.

Mr Fox, who left office in December, recalled Mr Bush "backing away" from the animal.

'A horse lover can always tell when others don't share our passion," he said, according to the Washington Post.


(Yeah, it's off-topic, but what the hell)

Al Gore... what a pompous political ass. All politicians are stooges and have no right to talk about climate change. REAL science is inconclusive as to weather or not man is the primary cause. Now, before you liberal zealots get out your torches and pitchforks, like the sheep-like villagefolk you are... do the research... for real. You will find the intolerant global warming religion is steamrolling rational scientists who disagree with it's junk-science.

Sure, Deaux. And it's spelled "whether," unless you were punning. And I have done the research. The people getting steamrolled are those whose findings are suppressed by the White House.

"We need to put CO2 emissions in a lockbox."

And then we need to give jobs to people who will scam the public and you can pay them to give you CO2 credits for things like planting trees and doing things that compamies already do to cut emissions.

That will be the two jobs this BS will create.


Murphy

oh fickle randy, such a valiant attempt... I applaud your bravery. Findings based on generic computer models that hypothesize vague predictions? Do they take into account the recent sun cycles? How about the arctic ice core samples? Did you ever look into the geological history of this planet? Or are you too busy finishing off your popcorn after watching Leonardo DeCaprio's pretentious earth orgy that he calls a movie?

Yep, they take all in account. This time, it's human caused.

Randy, you obviously haven't truly opened your mind on this issue... you know, liberalism is a default ideology, it is always the lowest common denominator. I own a Prius and an Tahoe... just because of you, I decided to drive my Tahoe on a 150 mile trip tomorrow instead of my Prius... and I'm going to laugh the whole way!

Deaux, why don't you provide some evidence instead of insults.

I've watched the global warming religion's movies and read it's propaganda in detail... if you truly have an open mind, read these two books and then we can talk.

www.amazon.com

www.amazon.com

The Skeptical Environmentalist? You've got to be kidding. That's been refuted several times. Here's a good site to start: www.lomborg-errors.dk

If you have an open mind, read this from the National Research Council: www.nap.edu It actually deals with the issue of natural climate change, and goes on to say that humans are part of the problem. Or is the NRC just propaganda? Like that put out by the American Institute of Physics, the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Society, etc.

Humans are a small contributor to the problem, but not the main cause. Many of these agencies are politically motivated, there is big money in global warming. Just look at the Kyoto Treaty... billions of dollars for miniscule results.

And if you ever mention carbon taxes, or any other "global warming" tax, a new breed of militant will be born.

So, now you say humans are a small contributor. I'm glad you agree with the Bush administration. This is from the Federal Climate Change Science Program (or are they on the "big money" bandwagon you skeptics are so fond of mentioning without proof):

:Studies ... show clear evidence of human influences on the climate system (due to changes in greenhouse gases, aerosols, and stratospheric ozone). ... The observed patterns of change over the past 50 years cannot be explained by natural processes alone, nor by the effects of short-lived atmospheric constituents (such as aerosols and tropospheric ozone) alone."

Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere www.climatescience.gov

And if you ever mention carbon taxes, or any other "global warming" tax, a new breed of militant will be born.

I can see you clearly, brandishing torches from the power windows of your urban assault vehicles, chanting "we're idiots, but..."...damn, what rhymes with "idiot"?

please carefully read all the right wing posts on global warming, you will find that they offer very good proof that right wing = stupid!


ignore all evidence, just tune in the great scientist Rush, quote old debunked stories, much like creationist do for evolution, but rememeber most right wingers think the world is 6000 years old, and that talking snake screwed Adam.

show me peer reviewed research that supports your position or just revel in your ignorance.

Too bad nobody had the balls to assassinate that filthy sand pig.

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 12:26 AM | Reply

Damn. Your idiot detector is functioning tonight, coop.

Oh, and if you do global warming-related work in the Bush administration that they don't like, you're pretty likely to get your work blocked, rather than be rewarded with "big money."

www.abcnews.go.com

"A federal court today issued a harsh rebuke of the Bush administration for its failure to issue long-delayed reports assessing the impacts and consequences of global warming in the United States.

"The judge in the case set a spring deadline for administration officials to comply."

"widget" rhymes with Idiot. Well, it's an end rhyme.

www.foxnews.com

"WASHINGTON -- Two federal agencies are investigating whether the Bush administration tried to block government scientists from speaking freely about global warming and censor their research, a senator said Wednesday.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., said he was informed that the inspectors general for the Commerce Department and NASA had begun "coordinated, sweeping investigations of the Bush administration's censorship and suppression" of federal research into global warming."

Big money and politics indeed!

What I'm mostly against is this sense of radical urgency that you doomsday'ers so liberally espouse. Regardless of what you think, we are not in the "11th hour". I agree, eliminate aerosols, push for alternative fuel sources... but I loose no sleep over this issue and neither should you. There is very little you can to to reverse the situation since the main cause of climate change is completely natural. I cut back on fuel consumption for a whole separate reason... I want to see the oil-rich arab pigs starve to death.

Alexandrite, you just don't have the guts to do what is necessary.

Global Warming Global Shwarming it's a bunch of Bollocks.

Larry

Natural causes? Like what? The sun? You've heard of global dimming, which has actually decreased the amount of sunlight we are receiving: www.realclimate.org What else, volcanoes? We haven't had a Tamobora-sized or even a Krakatoa-sized event in some time. A giant release of frozen methane from the ocean floor? Nope. It looks like humans are the main culprit this time. Anyway, it's been good talking to you, Deux, and if you drive your SUV 150 miles tomorrow, thank the Saudis for the oil.

I will Randy, I'm going to destroy your planet and I'm going to enjoy every minute of it!!

Deauxbot-
Is "what is necessary" assassinating a visiting head of state?

yes, it is Cooper. But I retract the assassination comment. It would be better to make his death look accidental. Point is, any religious fundamentalist has no right to hold the title of "Head of State"

Point is, any religious fundamentalist has no right to hold the title of "Head of State"

Very funny.

oh.. and the UN is an impotent socialist organization that doesn't belong in the United States

why is that funny cooper? are you going to mention something about Bush?

Deauxbot-
If the UN is impotent, then why are you directed to care so much about it?

I guess Cooper is a supporter of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Point is, any religious fundamentalist has no right to hold the title of "Head of State"

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 12:52 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Oh I agree. Dubya should NOT hold the Title of Head of State. Quite right You are.

Larry

Deaux-
re: why is that funny cooper? are you going to mention something about Bush?

Oh no, I wouldn't pretend to insult your intelligence by stating the obvious.

Because they are wasting space in MY country... bringing in tyrants and thugs like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro

Deauxbot-
re: But I retract the assassination comment.

You really should; maybe twice.

why Cooper, do you support Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

Deauxbot-
Gee. By not calling for some nutcase such as you to assassinate him, I'm a "supporter"?

I'm waiting Cooper... are you a pig? a dog? a fundamentalist muslim?


why Cooper, do you support Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 01:03 AM |


Doing a 160 on your question, deauxbot, do you support Bush nuking Ahmandinejad?

you are one of those "champions of all human life" aren't you?

correction -- I meant a "180" DUH! sorry

Seriously, Deauxbot-
Quote any "supporting" statement I've made regarding the president of Iran. (aside from the comments directed at your assassination desires, and how that was stupid)

no CALIF... because the Iranian people are good people, their rulers are oppressive. Would I support killing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and all of the Islamic Clerics? YES!

Cooper, would you support the assassination of Hitler?

Deaux-
re: I'm waiting Cooper... are you a pig? a dog? a fundamentalist muslim?

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag:


No, I'm just not a lunatic, so maybe we won't get along.

Any other heads of state you'd like to off?

Hitler is dead.

No Cooper, I love my country. But you didn't answer my question: would you support the assassination of Hitler?

c'mon man, hypothetically speaking

. Would I support killing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and all of the Islamic Clerics? YES!

So you want them all dead because YOU consider them oppressive. Don't you think since Iran is a democratic country that it's up to the Iranian electorate to decide whether or not they want oppressive leaders? Ahmadinejad is up for re-election in 6 months. You want to assasinate him and the Mullahs, butt into another country's electoral process and slaughter all their leaders because you don't like them?

Can't you at least wait another 5 months until the Iranian elections before going ahead and assasinating the guy? Might show a bit of diplomacy on your part.

Deauxbot-
But since you have a time machine and a corner on ethics street, would you support the assassination of Hillary Clinton?


No Cooper, I love my country. But you didn't answer my question: would you support the assassination of Hitler?

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 01:14 AM


yeah, why don't you ask Cooper if he would have supported killing Genegis Kahn too. Any other murdering, tyranical DEAD historical maniacs you want Cooper to get rid of?

should be "Genghis" -- spelled the guy's first name wrong

thanks for the advice CALIF, fact remains suria law must be obliterated from this earth, it oppresses all forms of human expression. It must be destroyed. I understand a pacifist mind such as yours doesn't like such abrasive language but it is the cold, hard truth.

and no Cooper, if the people elect that nag, then so be it.

CALIF, you gotta understand... you are from California. That's one count against you. You are either a filthy pothead or some unnecessary government employee. Good luck though buddy ;)

CALIF, you gotta understand... you are from California. That's one count against you. You are either a filthy pothead or some unnecessary government employee. Good luck though buddy ;)

Deaux-
re: and no Cooper, if the people elect that nag, then so be it.

That's very big of you.

It must be destroyed. I understand a pacifist mind such as yours doesn't like such abrasive language but it is the cold, hard truth.

I'm no pacifist. I'm on my 3rd rerun tonight of watching "The War"


fact remains suria law must be obliterated from this earth...

So, Deauxbot, you plan on obliterating the umpteen billion Muslims who currently practice Sharia law? and, why, pray tell, when they don't make you practice it here in the U.S. -- assuming you are from here.

Hey a menopausal president... are you kidding? It'll be hillarious!!!

CALIF, you gotta understand... you are from California. That's one count against you. You are either a filthy pothead...,

I bathe.

CALIF... ask the women who are oppressed by sharia law what they truly think... c'mon are you a liberal or something???

No Cooper, I love my country. But you didn't answer my question: would you support the assassination of Hitler?

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 01:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

There's a big difference between Hitler, who exterminated the Jews and others, and Achmadenijad, who denies the holocaust occurred.

lol CALIF... I actually support the legalization of that happy plant that will go unmentioned

OK Alexandrite, how about Joseph Stalin, who killed more people than Hitler... if you were transported back when he was ruling, would you support his assassination?

OK Alexandrite, how about Joseph Stalin, who killed more people than Hitler... if you were transported back when he was ruling, would you support his assassination?

Tip for the new guy -- you only need to press the 'publish comment' one time

If I had a time machine I'd do something more creative with it than murder another human being, Deauxbot.

But that's just me.

c'mon, don't be such a coward!

Cowards murder people.

you call one "Human Being" who negates the existence of millions of "Human Beings" worthy of life? What if you knew you could save the lives of 10 million people by killing one tyranical ruler, would you do it?

False choice, Deauxbot.

As long as we're playing make-believe I'd like a pony.

And pardon me if I laugh now...

I'm being grilled on ethical hypotheticals by a poster that refers to blacks as "coloreds" and murder victim Nicole Brown Simpson as "white trash".

Eat me.

Alexandrite, you are an irrational woman... no wonder you are always the victims. You don't believe enough in yourself to fight back!!!

what the hell are you talking about, I never said that. Some of my best friends are black...

I am a very rational person who puts his ethics above end results. It costs me sometimes I'll admit, but it makes me a man.

The ends do not justify the means.

and because of that, you are a pussy. Goodnight

I'm being grilled on ethical hypotheticals by a poster that refers to blacks as "coloreds" and murder victim Nicole Brown Simpson as "white trash".

Eat me.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2007-09-27 01:38 A


That was the poster named "Johnson"

Deauxbot- I'd like to apologize...I was multi tasking while posting and confused you with someone else. It happens.

If you want Achmedinijad dead then go kill him. Why should it be up to someone else to do your dirty work?

you scared him away, Alexandrite

And for the record, I am not advocating that anyone kill world leaders...just calling someone's bluff.


and because of that, you are a pussy. Goodnight

Posted by deauxbot at 2007-09-27 01:41 AM | Reply | Flag:


Let me guess: Captain of the debate team? Hey, you're the one calling for assassinations with no intention of dirtying your hands. In the end your just a mouth, half a gonad, and a lot of hot air.

you are an irrational woman... no wonder you are always the victims

Another woman lover I see.

you are an irrational woman... no wonder you are always the victims

Not only Captain of the debate team but a misogynist too.

that was kinda fun
If Deauxbot hadn't gotten flustered and left the scene I was going to just sit back with a bowl of popcorn and watch the retorts fly.
oh well, perhaps another time

Homo Sapiens isn't worth it.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-09-26 08:33 PM |


Yourself included, of course. And you mock the people looking for rapture?

You post stuff that make you come across as suicidal. Seek help, you need it. It's obvious your atheist friends aren't up to the task.

Vernon, sorry, I never seen those sites, I do visit NASA,Pandas Thumb, Science blogs, Live Science and others, try looking at gristmill.grist.org

My assumptions that right wingers are dumb are born out by comments such as yours. Your assumption seem to be based on ignorance and your own projections. One thing I learned from you is that righties tend to be hung up on "dick sucking", now I can understand the Larry Craig story a bit more. seeing facts don't seem to matter to right wingers, but go ahead prove I'm right, make a nasty word comment.

If that hypocrite Gore really cared about Global Warming, he would stop flying all over the country and around the world in PRIVATE JETS which creates 100 times more pollution than any Hummer driver ever could. He could fly the mass transporation equivalent of commercial flight but like other rich snobs, he is too darn good to sit next to the "common folk."

UTASTAFF, what a great talking point. did you think of that one yourself or get it from one of the talk shows.

UTASTAFF, what a great talking point. did you think of that one yourself or get it from one of the talk shows.

Posted by onna

OK here's a new one: Al Gore picks his nose and eats it, cause it's GREEN.

Now that I have your attention - I don't know where UTA gets his info but he is stating a fact about Al Gore and would not have necessarily picked it up from a talk show. Though Hannity & Colmes is a good source, as well as All Things Considered on NPR.

funny coming from a guy that flies a private jet everywhere and and uses 10 times more energy than the average user.

Gotta love it. "do what i say not what i do" - fuck'em

Mr. Foley, why don't you "support family values" by downsizing your libdo, and my IMing male teenagers.

Posted by Hans at 2007-09-26 06:03 PM


If you want to IM some male teenagers, Hans, that is your business... but why should Foley be expected to do something about your problem? He has enough of his own to deal with.

I really think carbon credits are cute.

Kinda like the Catholic church selling indulgences back in the day.


Problem: Limp-wristed leftist has a massive carbon footprint and feels guilty about it (sort of).


Solution: Devise a scheme where a little cold cash can assuage said guilt.

1. Of course global warming is real. How can it not be - for the last 60 years we have been spewing toxins into our air and water and expect that the planet will stay healthy? Watch the 11th Hour. As for Gore, he may not practice what he preaches, but at least someone is preaching it. Change has to start somewhere.

2. As for those of you who somehow got rattling on about Iran and the suppression of women, etc etc ...let me remind you that Catholic women still can't be priests, gays can't marry in the US and the Jena6 fiasco proves that racism is still alive and well in North America. Fix your own problems, stop butting your noses into other cultures.

Global warming is the same as global pollution?

Watch the 11th Hour.

What channel?

. . .stop butting your noses into other cultures.

Posted by ProudCanadian at 2007-09-27 10:17 PM


You can't make this stuff up.

The 11th Hour is a movie narrated by Leonardo Dicaprio. Very educational, and actually quite positive and inspiring considering the message.

wip.warnerbros.com

As for those of you who somehow got rattling on about Iran and the suppression of women, etc etc ...let me remind you that Catholic women still can't be priests

hmm. Stoning women to death for adultery in Iran vs not allowing them into the preisthood in the free world. Yeah, I see a pattern.

FF Goatman

I'm just saying that not everything is necessarily equal in our cultures/religions either...women, blacks, gays on this side of the world have had to fight like hell for equality and it's been relatively recent in terms of history. Unless I am accusing the wrong poster, the same guy on here standing up for women under Sharia law when on to call another poster an "irrational woman...no wonder why you guys are always victims". Nice. Hypocritical???? a little.

But enough on that topic, this is about the environment.

Johnson,

"Say, water vapor is supposed to influence the greenhouse effect more than CO2. Why isn't control of water vapor an issue. Is it because it is uncontrollable, or is it because thee is no apparent profit center available in trading "water vapor credits?""

Water vapor levels in the atmosphere aren't the issue, because that's not what's causing the rise in temperature (atleast that's what the prevailing evidence points to...). It's the particulate levels of CO2 and methane.

If CO2 and methane levels are increasing, causing more melting of ice caps and evaporation from previously frozen climes, like Siberia and Canada, then it's going to create more water vapor.

Saying that water vapor is the biggest greenhouse gas, and therefore we can't do anything about the problem is like a doctor saying we shouldn't bother finding a cure for a disease because diseases happen. It's a lazy excuse for a complex problem.

Water vapor lies on the floor of the greenhouse where it cannot trap infrared and it stabilizes temperatures by negative feedback through cloud formation.

"The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) said the minimum extent of 4.13 million sq km (1.59 million sq miles) was reached on 16 September.

The figure shatters all previous satellite surveys, including the previous record low of 5.32 million sq km measured in 2005.

Earlier this month, it was reported that the Northwest Passage was open."
news.bbc.co.uk

It's too late. The clathrates are melting.

"Homo Sapiens isn't worth it.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-09-26 08:33 PM |


Yourself included, of course. And you mock the people looking for rapture?

You post stuff that make you come across as suicidal. Seek help, you need it. It's obvious your atheist friends aren't up to the task."

Posted by Incubus_Con, the known liar and fraud



I rest my case.



"In 1950, a young Billy Graham stated "We may have another year, maybe two years. Then I believe it is going to be over.""
www.abhota.info

Moron

Hey, Zat/Data...good to see you're back on the right track. Have you given any thought to taking up my cause to eradicate kudzu which is a threat to mankind. It's taking over the world, you know.

"Homo Sapiens isn't(sic) worth it."
--ZATOICHI


Then don't post anymore articles on global warming.

"Homo Sapiens isn't(sic) worth it."
--ZATOICHI


"homo sapiens" is singular and therefore the first person singular "is" is the proper usage.


The name of our species, Homo sapiens (literally "wise human") is singular in both Latin and English. The plural of the phrase in Latin--in the non-technical sense of a wise human--would be homines sapientes,


www.straightdope.com

What a bunch of paleoanthropologists.

"Homo sapiens

The species to which you and all other living human beings on this planet belong is Homo sapiens. Anatomically, modern humans can generally be characterized by the lighter build of their skeletons compared to earlier humans."
www.mnh.si.edu


"Homo erectus

To understand what we mean today by "Homo erectus", some history of paleoanthropological thought is needed. The first early human fossil found outside of Europe was the Trinil 2 fossil skullcap from the Solo River in Java, pictured to the right. The fossil was placed in the species Pithecanthropus erectus by its discoverer Eugene Dubois. Almost 40 individuals have been recovered from Java to this day, roughly equivalent to the number of fossils found at the caves of Choukoutien in China. The Choukoutien fossils found were originally assigned the species name Sinanthropus pekinensis. It was not until the 1950's that Ernst Mayr proposed that all of the specimens from these two roughly contemporaneous locales, along with others localities from Europe and Africa, represented a single species, Homo erectus. Since the 1950's, however, the early African populations of what Mayr termed Homo erectus have once again been split into a separate species Homo ergaster."

www.mnh.si.edu

"Homo ergaster

By 1.9 million years ago, another lineage of the genus Homo emerged in Africa. This species was Homo ergaster. Traditionally, scientists have referred to this species as Homo erectus and linked this species name with a proliferation of populations across Africa, Europe, and Asia. Yet, since the first discoveries of Homo erectus, it had been noted that there were differences between the early populations of "Homo erectus" in Africa, and the later populations of Europe, Africa and Asia. Many researchers now separate the two into distinct species Homo ergaster for early African "Homo erectus", and Homo erectus for later populations mainly in Asia. Since modern humans share the same differences as H. ergaster with the Asian H. erectus, scientist consider H. ergaster as the probable ancestor of later Homo populations."

www.mnh.si.edu

"The Turkana Boy"

www.mnh.si.edu

www.mnh.si.edu

"homo sapiens" is singular and therefore the first person singular "is" is the proper usage."
--GOATMAN


Well that kind of ruins my cheap gotcha.

Damn it!!!

Well that kind of ruins my cheap gotcha.

I'm a cherry picker. *grin* You can still get me, though. I meant to say "third person" instead of "first" above.

can I fight it with blowjobs? cause I would like to get me some of them!

can I fight it with blowjobs?

Sure. How many do you want to give?

Responding to all the posts at http://www.drudge.com/news/
98636/co2-highest-level-
650000-years (PART 1):

Let me see if I get this straight. CO2 has risen so fast in the past hundred years that it has exceeded anything within the past 650,000 years. Is that about right? And why is that Zat? Explain to me again how this is the fault of man?


You got it. Because of the
Industrial Revolution. And by the way, the message is not "run for your life". The message is "stop poluting".

I heard last night on the news that a wedding leaves a huge carbon footprint, more than the equivalent for one person for one year. The answer to global warming then is to ban weddings. If you care at all about the planet, you will not get married.


Well, the choice is not all-carbon-or-no-wedding! There are ways to have a wedding that doesn't carry a big carbon footprint. Google your heart out for "green wedding".

One poster wrote:
Given there was no world for 640,000 of those years, this is no big surprise. More CO2 in the air is just God's way of helping the afghan poppies to grow.


Another wrote:
Oh bullshit! That's a lie. God made the earth 5 thousand years ago... 7 thousand... tops. [snip]


Those are examples of the many religous-based myths on the earth's age, which have proven to be false by lots of factual evidence lying in the earth. Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

Fossils have been found on earth that date back 100's of millions of years when dinosaurs were the dominant land species on earth. About 65 million years ago, a catastrophic extinction event ended the dominance of dinosaurs on land. That event paved the way for humans to dominate the land.

Bone remains from an earlier form of human have been found dating back 1.8 million years. You can find that here.

If you need more proof that the earth is much much older than 10,000 years, there is plenty of documented evidence all over the internet. Google your heart out.

I suggest we keep religous beliefs out of this argument. But if you wish to be religous about this, how about the notion that we should not abuse God's world with all of our polution? I think it is a spiritual obligation, as well as a moral obligation to stop poluting this planet. We need to be pursuing clean energy. Our future well-being will depend on it.

One of the best-kept secrets in the global warming debate is that the plant life of Planet Earth would benefit greatly from a higher level of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere.


Growth-wise, yes, but they loose some nutrition (see bigger, not better. Also, at some point, the CO2 will trapping too much heat, and it will get too hot for the plants. Lots of plant life will likely die off in drought areas. So you have to consider more than just the CO2 itself - you have to consider the side-affects as well.

Plants do, they can't breath oxygen. Do you want to kill all the plants oza?


Plants have done very well with pre-industrial levels of CO2 for millions of years. They don't need the extra CO2 we have now. Think of other life on earth besides plants, ok?

Responding to all the posts at http://www.drudge.com/news/
98636/co2-highest-level-
650000-years (PART 2):

I think most everyone concedes the fact that there IS global warming. There HAS BEEN pretty much for thousands of years. The differences lie in how catastrophic it is and how much is a result of man's activities. As for myself, I don't want to see the U.S. adopting some Draconian measures to limit CO2/methane emissions when we don't have solid answers to a lot of those questions. That, and the fact that Kyoto didn't call for ANY measures for the BILLIONS of people in China or India to limit emissions. In fact, they have plans to INCREASE emissions in the future while trying to ban my SUV. The "sky is falling" crowd needs to calm down.


Let me see if I got this straight. You think it's OK to keep poluting until you are satisfied man's contribution to global warming is significant. Do I have that about right?

How about some
simple steps? Is replacing some light bulbs too much for you? "If every household replaced just three 60-watt incandescent bulbs with CF bulbs, the pollution savings would be like taking 3.5 million cars off the road!" I got an idea.. replace ALL the 60W and 100W bulbs in your house to CF bulbs!

http://
www.environmentaldefense.org/
page.cfm?tagid=608

CO2 at Highest Level in 650,000 Years

I though water vapor had by far the greatest impact on the greenhouse effect

mysite.verizon.net


Water vapor increases with heat. The increased water vapor is one of earths' many reactions to the warming. Man's CO2 contribution turns up the heat. That in turn causes more water vapor. Stop the CO2 contribution, and the heat is turned down, and water vapor is reduced as well.

Read this and this.

"Thousands of years"

Talk to the ice.

"Researchers have recovered a nearly two-mile-long cylinder of ice from eastern Antarctica that contains a record of atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and methane--two potent and ubiquitous greenhouse gases--spanning the last two glacial periods. Analysis of this core shows that current atmospheric concentrations of CO2--380 parts per million (ppm)--are 27 percent higher than the highest levels found in the last 650,000 years.

The ice core data also shows that CO2 and methane levels have been remarkably stable in Antarctica--varying between 300 ppm and 180 ppm--over that entire period and that shifts in levels of these gases took at least 800 years, compared to the roughly 100 years in which humans have increased atmospheric CO2 levels to their present high. "We have added another piece of information showing that the timescales on which humans have changed the composition of the atmosphere are extremely short compared to the natural time cycles of the climate system," says Thomas Stocker of the University of Bern in Switzerland, who led the research. "

www.sciam.com



Did you get those nuns skiing yet, Vern?

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