He's losing his mind.

"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." -- Mark Twain

Mandela is as dead as Castro, who probably die 7 times in past 3 years already.

What a complete idiot.

Maybe Saddam killed Winnie Mandela.

Seriously, however, I heard him say this and blamed myself for not knowing about some other Mandelas with some Iraq connection, but then it dawned on me that he didn't know what he was saying, and now I can't believe this isn't a major news story.

It's up there with the strangest and silliest things the man ever said. And the way he said it! He is unstable, he is unfit, and in a few years we'll probably find out the truth.

I wonder what all the iraqis striving for peace think of this thought?

what a maroon.

Has anyone told Nelson?

When is Bush's last day again?

What do you expect when the last time he had his nose in a book the title was "My Pet Goat" They don't call him "incurious" George for nothing.

Mandela denies he's dead
But WTF does he know?
Bush is The Decider

i can understand what he is TRYING to say (yes that is scary) and the REALITY of his point is worse than his faux pas.

he is TRYING to say that all those entities who could have fought against the totalitarian regime were killed and couldnt organize to start afresh.

saddam killed all of IRaqi mandelas, all those courageous leaders who fought and organized against his regime to step up and be the leaders into democracy.

as an aside cheney voted against a resolution calling for Mandelas release calling the ANC which Mandela lead a terrorist organization (ANYONE SEE THE IRONY!!)

back to the story.

SH didnt kill all the mandellas in Iraq, ali sistani comes to mind, many other groups/individuals are working for peace and democracy and positive change.

Bush's statement basically says those people are NOT doing good work.

How do you think Iraqis will feel about a statement like that? What does that say about how bush perceives the leaders in IRaq?

again

what a maroon.

Uday and Qusay raped and murdered Desmond Tutu right before they hatched the plot for 9-11.

"Desmond Tutu"

No wonder they had all that Viagra.

There's a rumor going around that since a sitting president can't pardon himself, but he can be pardoned by his successor (as when Ford pardoned Nixon in 1974) that Bush will first issue an open-ended pardon for Dick Cheney (again similar to what Ford did with Nixon) and then promptly resign, turning the Presidency over to Cheney, who will then pardon Bush. Of course, if a Republican is elected in November, 2008, I suspect that a deal will be made so that whomever was elected will automatically pardon BOTH Bush and Cheney on January 21, 2008.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see the internecine warfare that will take place inside the White House and the GOP leadership if come November 2008, the Democrats win both the White House and a significantly larger percentage of Congress, perhaps even a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.

OCU

you know what the biggest shame is there is a significant percentage of americans who after hearing this will forever think Saddam Hussein killed Nelson Mandela.

Bush's statement basically says those people are NOT doing good work.

Posted by truthhurts at 2007-09-21 06:00 PM

Or even more outrageously, that whatever effort IS being made by these people, that it doesn't matter and that it's all a big waste of time.

OCU

There was a time when I wondered what Bush was thinking. But that was then, this is now, time's marched on and so have I. Now I wonder whether he thinks.

you know what the biggest shame is there is a significant percentage of americans who after hearing this will forever think Saddam Hussein killed Nelson Mandela.

Posted by truthhurts at 2007-09-21 06:18 PM

About 41%, as that's the percentage of Americans who still think Saddam was either directly or indirectly responsible for 9/11.

OCU

"I heard somebody say, Where's Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas,"

What Bush meant was that after Saddam was removed there were no Iraqi leaders who had been jailed under saddam as political Prisoners to come and unify the country the way mandella did.

I thought that was pretty obvious when he said it. The Press corps did too, since they didn't ask him any follow ups about the statement.

But on the Daily Show yesterday they took Bush literally as if he meant that Mandella himself was actually dead. It was a funny bit, but I didn't think anyone took it seriously. I guess I was wrong.

"What Bush meant was..."

Working that Ouija board again? Or sticking to the Magic 8-Ball?

Answer unclear. Try again later.

Working that Ouija board again? Or sticking to the Magic 8-Ball?

Well, I guess you are right, when so many people purposely misunderstand Bush's comments, then if telling them what he meant to say will not satisfy.

At least it is good to know that the mainstream Press corps was at least honest enough to admit they knew what he was talking about --even if the "always out for Bush blood" lefties in the blogosphere are not.

BTW: The point Bush made was valid, by the time we deposed Saddam, he had killed anyone who would have had the stature to inspire and unify the Iraqi people the way Mandella did.

Saddam Killed Nelson Mandela

Cheney declared that Mandela was a terrorist. Maybe they declared Iraq's "Mandela" a terrorist and packed his ass off to Gitmo.

I agree with TruthHurts, I understand what he's saying - I seem to recall it as a meme from 2002 - but I can't understand why he said it.

Nobody's calling for a Mandela. If a Mandela did arise out of the chaos in Iraq, he sure as hell wouldn't be on the side of the foreign forces occupying the country. Like the real Mandela, they'd demand that we leave, and would have a pretty low opinion of President Junior. I imagine if there was a Mandela, rightwingers everywhere would be screaming for his blood. So, I guess Saddam did Dubya a favor.

BTW: The point Bush made was valid, by the time we deposed Saddam, he had killed anyone who would have had the stature to inspire and unify the Iraqi people the way Mandella did.

Posted by Bowa

...and you know this how? Maybe he just hid them with the WMD's.

Just curious Bowa, did you agree with your hero Darth Cheney when he called Mandela a terrorist?

Hypocrisy is the only tribute Bush pays to democracy and human rights!

The amount of violence in Iraq was almost negligible before Dubya Bush instigated his "Oil War" on that country - as a direct result of the American invasion nearly one million Iraqis have died.
Also for Bush to compare South Africa's racism to Iraq dictatorship under Saddam is absurd if not laughable.Nelson Mandella was finally freed and apartheid ended because of international condemnation and boycotts and not because some foreign country (uninvited) sent in their massive military and bombed the place and its inhabitants into smitheereens!

I thought that was pretty obvious when he said it. The Press corps did too, since they didn't ask him any follow ups about the statement.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-09-21 06:27 PM

There comes a point when even the scumbag Liberal-commie media hacks understand that asking a follow-up question of this President will only undermine further the image and reputation that America has in the world. Besides, some people still have enough class to show some respect for the OFFICE of President of the United States of America.

OCU

actually bush was too busy ignoring questions (ie blackwater) and field move on.org questions from faux news to answer follow ups.

Is anyone surprised? Bush is an idiot. This is old news, no matter what he says.

didya hear that saddam wacked nelson mandela cause he got a B... i mean a C- in econ 101? wow

Just curious Bowa, did you agree with your hero Darth Cheney when he called Mandela a terrorist?

Cheney is far from my hero. And I think he has been a lousy VP overall. He lost my support a while ago when he said that it would have been right for the US to invade Iraq even if we knew Saddam had no WMD's.

That said, Could you show me the quote where he specifically called Mandella himself a terrorist? I'd like to see when it was, and what context.

check out the google.

Gawd.

If the CEO of a major corporation got up in public and started babbling like this, he'd be removed from office soooooo fast.

Even if you buy the explanation that Chimpy actually intended to say something cogent when he had this latest neural misfire, the fact remains that he did not put it lucidly.

I do- well, I was going to say that I do expect lucidity from the Leader of the Free World, but after a moment's reflection on the past seven years, I see that I somehow gave up somewhere along the line.

What's next? A total meltdown on live TV?

I hope so.

"I guess I was wrong."

Posted by Bowa

Not the first time.

Won't be the last time.

We're used to it.

Hans

I thought Bush said Saddam invented the internet?

the mandelas are a death metal band from kuwait that saddam killed cause they got a b ( or a c- maybe) in econ 101.

and the US had absolutly no part in killing the nelson mandela's in the middle east

yea right

right - they od'd on oxycontin

Bush should seriously consider entering the Miss Teen USA competition. The geography question'll be a snap for a guy with his inabilities.

rove could get the crown for him.

Well Rastacy, since Cheney never called mandella a terrorist I have no opinion on that.

I do however disagree with Cheneys 1986 vote against his release.

I also believe that both the ANC and the white apartheid government in South Africa were equally guilty of engaging in terrorist acts against each other over many years.

"a death metal band from kuwait"

cool
any videos?

What's in that water pipe?

If anyone would take the time to read the quote in its entirety, it would be readily seen that Bush was using the name "Mandella" as an "example" of the "type" of powerful personality who could heal and reconcile a country after years of tyranny. Granted, it's awkward speech and if he had simply said "Mandellas", there would be no doubt about the meaning of his statement.

To paraphrase, what Bush was saying is this: What Iraq needs is an Mandella, but there are no Mandellas in Iraq, Saddam Hussein killed them all."

Yes, it's Bush-speak, but the President did not intend to suggest that Nelson Mandella of South Africa is dead. C'mon, this piling on is tedious.

People actually thought he was talking about Nelson Mandela? He was referring to Iraq's Mandela, much the same way one might pine for an Iraqi Jefferson, or an Iraqi Lincoln.

Anyone who thought he was actually referring to Saddam killing Nelson Mandela should take off the tinfoil. Anyone who still believes it...well, there's no hope.

Some people still have enough class to show some respect for the OFFICE of President of the United States of America.

I have plenty of respect for the OFFICE of President. I have NONE for the fumbling asshole who currently occupies it. Considering everything he's done in the last 7 years to diminish the world's respect for America, I'm not sure the "scumbag Liberal media" (AKA everybody but FOX) is the biggest problem there. He's self-disrespecting.

And as far as "class" goes, I think it's a little ironic for Republicans to even bring the subject up. Remeber, this is the party whose VP told a sentaor to fuck himself on the floor of the Capitol, whose President gives people juvenile scatological nicknames, and who never misses an opportunity to slander anyone or any institution who doesn't just nod their heads in agreement. If Petreaus had testified to anything BUT thumbs-up/stay the course, it would have been Kristol and Coulter who would have unapologetically used the "Betray-Us" line, and I doubt Dub would have defended him very hard.

Anyone who thought he was actually referring to Saddam killing Nelson Mandela should take off the tinfoil.

Kind of like all the rightwingers who couldn't understand Kerry's joke, huh?

Kind of like all the rightwingers who couldn't understand Kerry's joke, huh?

John Kerry told a joke?

When?

This is no accident from Bush. I think this is his way of seeing if he can do "stand up" after this presidential gig.

"They made a fuckin' movie."


Mmmmmmmmmmmm ... porn.

No Mandelas in Iraq?
When did Saint Chalabi leave?
All those INC freedom fighters?

The Union of Village Idiots has revoked Bush's membership for demeaning their reputations.

C'mon, this piling on is tedious.

Small beer compared to the tedium of this bozo's presidency and his ongoing succession of idiotic gaffes and display of bad manners.

Well the question I have is, when did we realize that Saddam had killed all the Iraqi Mandelas, and who did we think was going to lead Iraq after we invaded.

Cause see, the Iraq war was originally going to take 6 months, and the Iraqis were going to pop right up and take their country back.
So obviously, someone in Washington thought an Iraqi leader would stand up.

But now we learn "former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's brutality had made it impossible for a unifying leader to emerge and stop the sectarian violence that has engulfed the Middle Eastern nation."

The more Bush lets spill, the more we learn just how huge a clusterfuck the Iraq War is.
So what we have is, in 2003 Bush invaded Iraq with no post-war plan, and with no one left alive in Iraq to be the nation's leader.

Tell us again Bushies, how the fuck was this war supposed to take 6 months?

"Kind of like all the rightwingers who couldn't understand Kerry's joke"

If you want to call that lameass flub of a lameass line from that LAMEASS (sorry, Senator Lameass)...well...yeah, exactly like that.

"someone in Washington thought an Iraqi leader would stand up."

Chalabi/Curveball '04?

"Tell us again Bushies, how the fuck was this war supposed to take 6 months?"

In a nutshell: they didn't know the difference between defeating a (relatively) tiny occupying army, as Daddy had done, and rebuilding a smoldering civilization from scratch.

"the three of them spent some time explaining to Bush that there are two different sects in Islam--to which the President allegedly responded, "I thought the Iraqis were Muslims!""

what about econ 101?

frat boy should be their mandela - he knows all about the 'burning fire of liberty and the blessings of freedom'

he wasn't dead - he was MOSTLY dead

"I have plenty of respect for the OFFICE of President. I have NONE for the fumbling asshole who currently occupies it."

I'm a registered independent and I completely agree with this statement.

It doesn't matter what Bush said - the point is he sounded like a moron saying it.

Well, I guess you are right, when so many people purposely misunderstand Bush's comments

How many more times does this dyslexic, unlikeable moron have to stand up in public and embarrass himself and America until his apologists extract their heads from their butts and agree that 1.20.09 can't come soon enough?

"How many more times"

Don't blame me, I voted for Ann Richards.

"Don't blame me, I voted for Ann Richards."

Cuts right to the chase. She was talking about his dad when she said "Poor George, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth". Don't think she ever said of W "Poor George, he was born with a silver head up his ass" but I bet she thought it. If only Texas had stuck with Ann then, America wouldn't be stuck with this moron now.

Yeah, Saddam killed Mandela. And Steve Biko, John John Kennedy, Elvis Presley and Anna Nicole Smith. Somewhere Oorah, Bowa, BLT and RiR are chuckling into their beers. herm

This just in.....



Nelson Mandela is still not dead.




Film at 11.

I am no Bush defender. But if you read the article and not just the headline, he was not saying that Mandela is dead. Everyone is in such a rush to criticize Bush you don't even read. Kind of pathetic.

Sawdust

We know that. Those of us that saw and heard it generally went "Huh" and then "Oh, THAT's what he's trying to say."

The point is, as amusing as they are, the Bushisms are getting tiresome.

It was the last question at the news conference, it was a planted question, and he STILL couldn't get it right.

I wonder what year it was Bush first heard of Nelson Mandela? Five dollars it came to his attention sometime after 2000.

If there was a "Mandela" in Iraq, and I'm quite sure there are many, Bush wouldn't like him much.

This idiot wouldn't know up from down without a map. He's drunk on his ass every day. If there had been a Mandela in Iraq, he would have opposed bush, the neocons, and their fascist imperialism there. Bush would have had him killed by blackwater or some mercenaries, to shut him up, and if he had been imprisoned, he would have died being tortured, which even the South African government didn't do. What an idiot!

Funny stuff on here. You could speak thousands and thousands of words to the average liberal and they still wouldn't be able to comprehend the message.

And while they thought in themselve's that they were wise they became fools.

That about sums up the average demo/lib of today. Arrogant, condescending, hipocritic, immoral, irresponsible, slanderous, vile, revengeful, traitorous, covetous, scornful, untrustworthy, etc. etc. etc.

Sane Americans are seeing them for what they've become.

Democrats, they ain't what they used to be.

Sane Americans are seeing them for what they've become.

Arrogant, condescending, hipocritic, immoral, irresponsible, slanderous, vile, revengeful, traitorous, covetous, scornful, untrustworthy, etc. etc. etc.

Perfect description of Republicans like Delay, and all the other morons thrown out of office.

Unfortunately for you, voter preferences say people prefer Democrats by a wide margin.

Generic Congressional Vote
(bottom of page)

You could speak thousands and thousands of words to the average liberal and they still wouldn't be able to comprehend the message.

No, Bush was real clear. And it only took two words: "Mandela's dead." Oh, and then the bit about Saddam killing him. I thought he was real clear. It's Bush's New Clear (pronounced "Nu Klee Ar").

Here's the only poll that doesn't get a bias/programed result....

Since 1956, the Weekly Reader poll has correctly picked the winning candidate. In the 2004 poll, without the help of union thugs and lawyers, John Kerry lost to President Bush 65-33, with "Other" netting 2%. John Kerry "pulled a Mondale", only winning a single state (Maryland). Bush tied Kerry in New York, Massachusetts, Washington, D.C. and Vermont. Zogby compiled the results.



Take heed.

You can shove all other polls, they're all bias and designed to get the desired results of the people wishing to program the gullible that just follow the pack.


I make my observations through daily walks in life. I have yet to talk with anyone(in real life) that thinks a sitting US Senator that refers to the Vice President as Darth Vader or in so many words calls a 4 star general a liar is up to the task of being CIC of the United States.

Then again, I don't hang around rabid juveniles being raised and programed by liberal scum that think they're either owed a living, or tenure, and that all their problems are the fault of everyone else.

I have yet to find a person in real life who thinks a VP telling a Senator on the Senate floor to 'fuck you'.

NeoCon Republicans are arrogant pricks.

Bush has said many many dumb things in the past, this is not one of them. Saying that Saddam killed many Mandelas is not the same as saying he killed Mandela. We all know what he wasing saying. Maybe he should have used a better example like a Ben Franklyn or a Ghandi reference, so small minded people would not twist his words, or be offended because Mandela's last hours are approaching for real. But all and all, I choose to take Bush to task for the numerous real idiotic statements he has made.

Incubus wrote:

I make my observations through daily walks in life. I have yet to talk with anyone(in real life) that thinks a sitting US Senator that refers to the Vice President as Darth Vader or in so many words calls a 4 star general a liar is up to the task of being CIC of the United States.


What if they are true? What if the president lies and then is proven to be a liar through audio tapes are semen soaked dress? Could you then call that person a liar and be CIC? I'm not saying that is the case with your example, but you make a pretty broad statement.

"So small people could twist his words...."

I still have no clear idea Bush has ever known who Nelson Mandela is. Small people find it easier to twist the words of small minds.

Incubus wrote:

Funny stuff on here. You could speak thousands and thousands of words to the average liberal and they still wouldn't be able to comprehend the message.


Actually you got it wrong. It is the conservatives that do not understand words. They will twist statements like "I took the intiative in creating the Internet" (a true statement) into "I invented the internet". This is why conservatives have to have talking points that fit into nice little sound bites. Anything more then a sentance is lost to them. Conservatives need cute little phrases to energize their whining always angry base.

"That about sums up the average demo/lib of today. Arrogant, condescending, hipocritic, immoral, irresponsible, slanderous, vile, revengeful, traitorous, covetous, scornful, untrustworthy, etc. etc. etc."

Today's Inky deflection. Bush may have an IQ lower than the grass on my lawn, but Clinton fooled around with an intern. /s/ hipocritic herm

Zed,

Maybe I should not have used the phrase "small minds", but you have to admit that saying "Where's Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas", should never be confused with someone saying that Saddam actually killed Mandela. Obviously the statement "Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas" is meant to say that Saddam killed all of the potential eleder statesmen in Iraq that could have helped with this crisis. I'm not agreeing with Bush, but it is pretty clear what he was saying.

Inky is still acting like somebody crapped in his lunchbucket cuz the cancervatives took a six million vote thumping last November and it's only going to get worse for the Bushtards.

What if they are true? What if the president lies and then is proven to be a liar through audio tapes are semen soaked dress? Could you then call that person a liar and be CIC? I'm not saying that is the case with your example, but you make a pretty broad statement.


Posted by Jasper at 2007-09-22 01:32 PM |


I say, if you're going to make accusations you better have irrefutable eveidence to back them up.

Putting your face on TV posturing for political gain with never ending accusations that seemingly are never proven, much less, ever even tried under due process is synonymous to bearing false witness. And in my book, bearing false witness is still a character trait I don't condone nor tolerate.

Today's Inky deflection. Bush may have an IQ lower than the grass on my lawn, but Clinton fooled around with an intern. /s/ hipocritic herm

Posted by herm at 2007-09-22 01:42 PM |


Show me where I said that.

You're proving my point though.

Dullard.

Reinheitsgebot,

That's it exactly. Conservatives are whining selfish people at heart. They sit around and whine about having to be a part of the community. They whine when somebody does better then them. They whine when people who don't look like them begin to advance. They pretend that its about "rugged individualism" and "Christianity", but its about them feeling small in a big world. The truth is that the Christian left are the ones that actually follow the teachings of Christ. I'm glad that the conservatives finally had their chance to govern. They were in charge of all three branches of government, something that they have coveted for a long long time. They got their shot and blew it like I knew they would because their whining self serving ideas are morally bankrupt. I can only hope that they will once again get kicked to the fringes of society where we only have to hear their whining and not actually feel the effects of their stupidity.

Incubus,

Good point. Now show me where Hillary called the General a liar. The Darth Vader comment is a moot as when GB1 called Gore a wacko, its simple name calling to try and characterize an opponent.

and it's only going to get worse for the Bushtards.

Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2007-09-22 01:48 PM |


Yall better find a new target. He's not running again.

Now show me where Hillary called the General a liar


a sitting US Senator that refers to the Vice President as Darth Vader or in so many words calls a 4 star general a liar

Just as Bush's message of this thread is clear to many people so were Hillary's words.

Get it yet? Or would a few thousand more words possibly help?

Yall keep proving my point, but your blind partisanship precludes you of ever seeing/realizing it.

You're self stunted.

Incubus,

Dry your eyes and calm down a minute. I have not read Hillary's words yet, so I was hoping you would post them so I could judge for myself. I know, I know, it is extremely selfish of me to ask this of you when I could have used my "rugged indiviualism" to find it myself. Its ok, there is no need to get emotional. Try to collect yourself so we can talk later.

And in my book, bearing false witness is still a character trait I don't condone nor tolerate.

follwed by:

a sitting US Senator that refers to the Vice President as Darth Vader or in so many words calls a 4 star general a liar


Uh-huh.

a sitting US Senator that refers to the Vice President as Darth Vader or in so many words calls a 4 star general a liar


Uh-huh.

Posted by YAV at 2007-09-22 02:37 PM |

I both, saw and heard her speak the words myself...

Uh-huh.

Dullard.

I both, saw and heard her speak the words myself...

Liar.

Ok, behind most Bushisms you can kind of sense what the dimbulb was supposed to say before his brain went blank. But, what the heck was this supposed to be about? Saddam/Mandela? What's the connection, even in the delusional world of Bushit politics?

Jasper, you must be new here, this site is dedicated to sore losers whining about Bush. Get over it, he beat your best twice. You are the girly man. Keep holding on to Hillary's pantsuit, and don't cry too hard when she kills your last hope.

DOPE! This is your brain on Texan drugs!

DOPE! This is your brain on Texan drugs!

Yall better find a new target. He's not running again.
Posted by Incubus_Con

Y'all y'all will be running from him, just like the GOPiggie prez wannabes. Message: the target works. LOL

Here's the only poll that doesn't get a bias/programed result.... Since 1956, the Weekly Reader poll...Posted by Incubus_Con at 2007-09-22 12:37 PM


This shit just writes itself. All you have to do is sit back and wait.

Should Bush really make any comments regarding Nelson Mandela? Wasn't it the GOP's policy to be against South African sanctions in the 1980's, and to put zero pressure to get Mandela out from behind bars?

I seem to recall that pressuring South Africa to end apartheid was a Democrat issue and there were numerous fights between Reagan and Congress.

the frat boy has proved over and over that he's no great communicator (say what george?) - even if you give him the benefit of the doubt, he's still making a lame ass excuse for the splendid mess that he's made, he's blaming saddam for the fact that there are no great and courageous leaders left in iraq (i'll bet that there really are some around) - it's a very weak point of view. especially in light of his chosen image of steely manliness in the face of adversity.

and what an insult to use nelson mandela, who did have the courage of his convictions in a way bush could never understand. well what do you expect from a cowboy who's afraid of horses? another greedy little hustler... con man

"another greedy little hustler"


That's it in a nutshell

that's hunter thompson language for nixon (incl. cheney,rumsfeld et al)

Right, Lincolnprh. There was some great writing that came out of that guy. It helped, of course, to be fairly well stoned while reading it. I used to think, "When I grow up (?) I want to have Huinter Thompson's job."

Well, not "Huinter Thompson's" job. That sucks. But "Hunter Thompson's" job. That rocked.

How many people in this country still do not understand that they voted for a mean, hopefully recovering alchoholic, MORON? Are Madrasas and Southern Bible Schools similar? Leader of the free world my ass.

It figures.

Didn't Saddam kill all the Nelson Mandelas before the war?

So why did these fucktards think that as soon as Saddam was taken down, Iraqis would magically unite in an effort to form a secular democracy (once they ran out of chocolates and flowers to throw at our troops of course)?

"I heard somebody say, Where's Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas,"

This is so obvious.....except for you dumber than shit, P.O.S. DR lefties. What a joke almost all of you are.

Nice tribute to what Mandela stands for btw.

And fuck you, you P.O.S. DR lefties. You can't find something better than this to go off on shows how freaking worthless you all are. Get some friggin' respect for yourselves.

sounds like another greedy little hustler to me

They should have a laugh track cued up every time Chimpus Minimus attempts to speak.

Demoncrat,

I am not new here and I do not whine about GWB's wins. I enjoyed it. Demoncrats have been in charge of two or more branches of government for most of the last sixty years. In that time frame we went from a nice country to a world super power. Also during that time frame conservatives cried over and over again about how much better things would be if they were in charge of government. When the had the Presidency they took credit for what went good, and blamed the congress or the courts for what went bad. Remember how they cried about how the deficits of the 80s were the fault of the congress because they are the ones who spend? They cried about how they would shrink the government and how they would balance the budget if only they could get a chance to be in charge. Bill Clinton did both of those things. The conservatives finally got their shot. They were in charge of all three branches of government. This was their opertunity to show the world that they were more then talk. I knew that they would blow it, and once again be pushed back to the fringes where they could once again snipe and whine without ever actually having to produce anything. Anal retentive conservatives are such a joke. They really need to stop blaming everybody else and take a good long look in the mirror.