Looks like we have a Blair replacement.

Bush has replaced his Blair lapdog with a French poodle.

I dunno. I thought Germany's pulling out of the UN sanctions talks was a slap in the Bush administration's face. The emphasis on a European solution sounds as much like a bid to replace U.S. leadership as to support it.

Ahh.

They're just trying to get Bill O'Reilly to end his boycott.

They are posturing to be have the Americans swoop down and save them for the third time in 100 years as the Ismlamization of Europe gains momentum.

"Facism: It's not just for the Germans anymore"

Bring it on!

It must suck for France to be so close to Iran and have an overflowing Muslim population. Blow up a couple of swanky cafes and kiss your tourism GOOD BYE.

BAD THINGS.

If Bush was smart he would take this opportunity to shift the responsibility to the Europeans. They are closer to Iran, it is more logical for them to deal with it. We have plenty of problems to deal with at home and in our own hemisphere. Hell, we have to go down and rescue Venezuela from them..........................
.....er..................... Venezuelans.

"If Bush was smart "

Umm ... well, that just about says it all.

"Hell, we have to go down and rescue Venezuela from them..........................
.....er..................... Venezuelans."

And don't forget we have to rescue those poor bankers who made bad business decision, it's the free market at work you know.

oh great, our handicap has arrived.

Q. How do you say "Give me liberty or give me death!" in French?

A. I give up.

Q. How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?

A. Nobody knows. It's never been tried.

danni, our troops are closer to iran than europe. fyi.

Bring it on!

Posted by OohRah

Careful now! The last time he said that they DID bring it on. So far, 3700+ body bags returned from Iraq. And there's an estimated half that number of Al Qaeda/Iraq.

I think that was said the same day the "We will hunt you to the ends of the earth" and "Dead or Alive" statements were made about Bin Laden too.

The 1st statement was reckless, the 2nd was empty.

Q: Where are the brave French soldiers buried?

A: There aren't any so they had to bury some of ours on their soil.

How come a country with such an awesomely bloody national anthem, La Marseillaise, have such a reputation for surrendering so easily? And what about the French Resistance in WWII? They didn't surrender.

AMER-
I was teasing. Just thought I'd bring up an old quote to lighten the mood.

Le Toad: Ok, men, to action!

French Frogs: We surrender!!

Le Toad: Not that one, you idiots! The kung fu thing!

Tou would think that the French would be tired of losing wars by now!
When was the last time they won a war? Try when Napoleon was still alive 200 years ago.

You would have thought that their losses in Viet Nam, Germany, Tunisia, Morocco, Syria, Gabon, Katanga, Madagascar, Korea, Suez, Basque Separatists, New Caldonia, Central African Republic, Somalia, Ivory Coast and Algeria in the last 50 years would be enough to teach them that they are incapable of winning a war without the help of the USA.

OORAH,
Did you learn anything from the last douchbag who arrogantly roared "Bring it on"?

Jeezus dude, you got a low learnification rate.

OORAH,
I cant recall the last time I heard a worse excuse for humor. Kinda puts you in the douch bagger population.

How bout we 'bring on' some adult deplomacy.
You and your war lovin palls have gone through one perfectly good military for the thrill of it.
Isnt that enough for you to piss away?

Was watching a documentary about their UN Bosnia "role" (run away)and reading an article about their current NATO "role" (stay away from anything loud or pointy) and came to the conclusion their military role is croissant maker.

If Bush was to shut up about attacking Iran, you can bet sarkophagus would announce he's swearing off pork in solidarity with the ayatollahs.

"How bout we 'bring on' some adult deplomacy."
--OLDWHISKEYSOUR

Germany is boycotting it.

The usual crap forgetting of course that France lost 1.5 million in WW1 and had a 75% casualty rate.

Course the US doesn't know about it as was still sitting on its ass.

In WW2 France had lost more people before Pearl harbour than the US did the whole of the War. Course yet again the US had joined late.

As for wars won !!!! When was the last the US won ?
Iraq 91 ? Can't be cause they had to come back ?

Grenada ?
Panama ?
Somalia ?
Lebannon ?

Big wars.

It is Funny to listen to lefties try and blame Frances tremedous War Casualties on US because we didn't Rush right in and help them, Like if that happened now they wouldn't cry like little hippy babies who got separated from there hippy parents at a "love in", Probably because even back then we had the forerunners of the 'self-centered, selfish me generation making every excuse in the book why we shouldn't go to war.. Just now they get more Air time and whine louder. You know why Japan went to War with us...OIL!! And they admiited it, well Steel too..

Oh and why Does the New French NAvy have Glass Bottom Ships?




So they can see the Olf French Navy..




Why are the streets in France lined with trees?





So the Germans can march in the shade

How come a country with such an awesomely bloody national anthem, La Marseillaise, have such a reputation for surrendering so easily? And what about the French Resistance in WWII? They didn't surrender.

Posted by member2586 at 2007-09-17 02:02 PM |

If the US Civil war dead hadn't been replaced by the mass immigration from Europe how long would it have been for its population to recover to a level prior to the Civil war ?

Likelihood is it would have taken at least 100 years.

French dead and Caualty rate in WW1 was 5.7 Million men or 75% of called up men.

1 in 20 French people died in WW1, 1 in 6 people died or was wounded.

The equivalent for the US for died or wounded was 1 in 300.

When you are faced with numbers like that the crap about France's willingness to fight is shown as pure Garbage.

France lost more soldiers prior to the US entry into WW1 than the US has lost since the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

looks like we have a retorting french man!

odie1kanobe, don't try to confuse the chest beaters with facts and figures. They prefer to revel in self-professed superiority, and like to think that their sheet don't steenk. They prefer to live in the fantasy that the US won the entire war single handed. Everybody else was just in the way. Of course, the millions of Russians who died on the "other side" of the war were simply of no account.

The way people were scurrying about and wailing after 9-11, "the biggest attack on American soil," you would have thought that the entire country coast to coast was raped and ravaged and ruined. Americans know nothing of invasion and destruction unless they are the ones carrying out the invasion and destruction. Which explains the extreme level of arrogance and complete disrespect being shown here. Students of history Americans in general seem not to be.

France preparing for war is as big of a time waster as any of you homos preparing for a date.

French dead and Caualty rate in WW1 was 5.7 Million men or 75% of called up men.

The equivalent for the US for died or wounded was 1 in 300.

France lost more soldiers prior to the US entry into WW1 than the US has lost since the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

Posted by odie1kanobe at 2007-09-17 04:42 PM | Reply

Thanks for showing so clearly that the french are complete idiots when it comes to the military. Any country that would tolerate 75% casualty rates is lead by fools. specially when the American example was right in front of them.

The French have killed more Germans on the Concorde than in all of their World Wars
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"When you are faced with numbers like that the crap about France's willingness to fight is shown as pure Garbage."

That's the Frog perspective. Now, for the alternative:

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
-- George Patton

They prefer to revel in self-professed superiority....

Posted by ZOT at 2007-09-17 04:59 PM | Reply

Zot:
re-read opie's own stats on American losses compared to the Frogs. The superiority is not self-professed. The figures speak for themselves.

There wouldn't even BE an America had the "frogs" not helped us. If you hate em so much, give back the statue of liberty.

It's silly to justify someone's willingness to fight a war with the number of casualties they suffered.

Let's see. Germany marched right around and flow over the Maginot line.
Posted by Axiom at 2007-09-17 05:43 PM
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Which was held by the Brits and French. The Brits cut off at Dunkirk evacuated 340,000 men.

France continued to fight for 3 weeks more.

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During the previous Olympic games, the French were the only country to salute Hitler.
Posted by Axiom at 2007-09-17 05:43 PM

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Absolute garbage as many countries gave the salute

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Face it. They bent over and took it in the ass. Any casualties the regular army suffered after this point and prior to the US/British invasion were blunders caused by commanding officers.
Posted by Axiom at 2007-09-17 05:43 PM
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Er No they fought on and lost more men while the US sat on its Ass AGAIN.

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A point which is illuminated by the fact that the french seem to have poor commanders.
Posted by Axiom at 2007-09-17 05:43 PM
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Right and the US had great ones like Mark Clark who capitulated at Anzio or McArthur who ran away from the Phillipines and abandoned hundreds of thousands of troops.

The Spin of the great return masks the fact that under his leadership he allowed thousands to be captured and made prisoner to die.

Some people seem to doubt the figures but there are easily verified.

To put into into perspective the US would have had to have had dead and injured 14 million men to come close to the French number in WW1.

Its easy to come and claim victory when armies have fought themselves to a standstill.

This move blew my mind because at first glance, it looked like France was supporting U.S. security policy. From its 1966 withdrawal from NATO to its arms sales to its positions on Iraq, this is extremely unusual.

But more interesting, they're following Germany's lead, after Germany kicked the U.S. in the teeth.

So on the one hand, Germany and France are announcing a separate European policy -- they're distancing themselves from the U.S. OTOH, they're echoing Bush's position. This is one way bizarre endorsement.

Thanks for showing so clearly that the french are complete idiots when it comes to the military. Any country that would tolerate 75% casualty rates is lead by fools. specially when the American example was right in front of them.

That is the single stupidest fucking thing I have ever seen you write, and that's saying a lot.

What is the American example they were supposed to be following in 1915? To have no Army to speak of, no military aircraft, no heavy artillery?

But hey, when America showed up, we sure showed them a thing or two. We ignored all the advice of the British and French who'd been fighting the war for for 3 years, lined up, and marched right into the machine guns.

Yeah, good advice. Do it the American way - show up late and take all the credit.

Everybody got fucked in WWI. France was bled white stopping the Germans. Whatever else you might have to say about them, they weren't cowards.

Its easy to come and claim victory when armies have fought themselves to a standstill.

Posted by odie1kanobe at 2007-09-17 06:24 PM | Reply

The US had no business entering WWI. Both sides were exhausted and would have evetually called "King's X" and gone home.

By tipping the balance, the US only set the stage for WWII in Europe.

And yes, the Frogs were fools for taking those levels of casualties. As for the American example, it's your stupid statistics that show we took far fewer losses. Obviously the US was doing something right.

who gives a shit if the frogs get whipped in Iran...at least they will take out some sand monkeys and get the latest World war started on a bigger scale

That is the single stupidest fucking thing I have ever ...... blah, blah, blah

Posted by argh at 2007-09-17 07:41 PM | Reply

You want to learn some truth about the military? Talk to any veteran involved in a NATO exercise in the last 30 years.

In every simulation, based on troop strength, equipment and reliability, the Frogs always fold in the first few hours.

The DeGualle is the first ship to sink. No great loss because it's the only frog aircraft carrier but, thanks to the people who gave us the Concorde, the flight deck is too short. No Frog planes can take off or land on it.

To sum up, all NATO plans are based on fighting while the French are in surrender mode.

but hey, how can you say anything bad about people who invented perfume, just so they don't have to bathe?

As for the American example, it's your stupid statistics that show we took far fewer losses. Obviously the US was doing something right. -- Vernon

Always a good idea not to have a war on your own soil.

France prepares for war?

Time to invest in anything that makes white cloth...

France going to war? 1, 2, 3.. go.. France gives up, Iran takes over France, US nukes France and kills two birds with one stone. ;) Muaaaa

France would go to war with the US before they would go to war with anyone else in the world

France is preparing for war? Their white flag industry must be booming.

Ode to France

Eleven thousand soldiers lay beneath the dirt and stone,
all buried on a distant land so far away from home.

For just a strip of dismal beach they paid a hero's price,
to save a foreign nation they all made the sacrifice.

And now the shores of Normandy are lined with blocks of white:
Americans who didn't turn from someone else's plight.

Eleven thousand reasons for the French to take our side,
but in the moment of our need, they chose to run and hide.

Chirac said every war means loss, perhaps for France that's true,
for they've lost every battle since the days of Waterloo.

Without a soldier worth a damn to be found within the region,
the French became the only land to need a Foreign Legion.

You French all say we're arrogant. Well hell, we've earned the right--
We saved your sorry nation when you lacked the guts to fight.

But now you've made a big mistake, and one that you'll regret;
you took sides with our enemies, and that we won't forget.

It wasn't just our citizens you spit on when you turned,
but every one of yours who fell the day the towers burned.

You spit upon our soldiers, on our pilots and Marines,
and now you'll get a little sense of just what payback means.

So keep your Paris fashions and your wine and your champagne,
and find some other market t that will buy your aeroplanes.

And try to find somebody else to wear your French cologne,
for you're about to find out what it means to stand alone.

You see, you need us far more than we ever needed you.
America has better friends who know how to be true.

I'd rather stand with warriors who have the will and might,
than huddle in the dark with those whose only flag is white.

I'll take the Brits, the Aussies, the Israelis and the rest,
for when it comes to valor we have seen that they're the best.

We'll count on one another as we face a moment dire,
while you sit on the sideline with a sign, "friendship for hire."

We'll win this war without you and we'll total up the cost,
and take it from your foreign aid, and then you'll feel the loss.

And when your nation starts to fall, well Frenchie,
you can spare us,
just call the Germans for a hand, they know the way to Paris.

Don Fichthorn, Major USMC (Retired)

While I'm no supporter of Iran, one has to admit:

1. Iran has signed the NPT.
2. Israel has not.
3. Iran does not have nukes and is in the ME.
4. Israel DOES have nukes (allegedly around 300), and is in the ME.

What good reason do the French have for attacking Iran, especially considering the high population of Muslim people in France?

Total Proof Bush Is In Trouble When You have To Get The French To Fight Your Battles, Geeeeeez

-Sarge

1. Their signature isn't worth the paper it's printed on
2. Why would they if they had no intention of abiding by it
3. They also have like minded zealot allies every where
4. They are surrounded by people that want them destroyed. Nuclear deterence has more than likely held the vultures at bay.

Can't help you with your question in regards to France, but I'm glad they've spoken up. When the French beat a war drum, people listen (and then laugh).

"French dead and Caualty rate in WW1 was 5.7 Million men or 75% of called up men."

Most of them were shot in the back.

The Tour De France was created when the French realized it was faster to pedal than run from the Germans.

France preparing for war is as big of a time waster as any of you homos preparing for a date.

Posted by 101Chairborne


That's dumb, even for you.

You really need more info to work with.

Note to self. ... buy stock in white sheets

Note to self:

Find a way to thank the French for helping us fight for our independence from England. Hmmm, I know let's make fun of them!

BIGJOHN wrote "Find a way to thank the French for helping us fight for our independence from England. Hmmm, I know let's make fun of them!"

we did thank them, saved them from speaking German the rest of there lives... Grow up , and read your history book, back then, they had a bit more back bone, .. now, its just jelly.. I hope they get over run by angry Muslims Terrorists

"Find a way to thank the French for helping us fight for our independence from England. Hmmm, I know let's make fun of them!"

France had a self interest in seeing England weekened. As a history buff, you should realize that they had been at war on and off for hundreds of years. And France's ambitions in the Americas could only be helped by getting England the hell out. And, oh yeah, we not only thanked them but paid them back as well. You know, the whole liberating them and then protecting them from Soviet domination for the next 50 years.

You want to talk ingrates? How about DeGaulle blocking the UK's entry into the early version of the EU?