McCain has finally rounded the bend. Next stop, Cuckooville.

John McCain has officially became UnAmerican. If He was worth a fuck anymore He would know that Dissent is what made Our Country what it is today. He is a thorough disgrace.

Larry

I wish I could just say he is 71 and it shows.

However since he took the royal screwing from Bush in 2000. Yet played ball with Bush in '04. For a shot at '08. Simply stated, The fire in his belly has cooked what grey matter was left.

Larry,
Did you read my info to you about the leg pain issue? I gave you a website. I forget the thread, though. Do you remember?

On this McCain thing, at the end of the column his campaign clarified the comment. His temper & demeanor used to enamor the left because McCain was bashing my side. Now that he's got the MoveOn crowd in his sights (and the anti war crowd in general) he's no longer the darling "maverick" he once was.

No I sure didn't OohRah but I will find it.

Larry

Ooh

He hasn't been a "darling maverick" for years. Pretty much since he rolled over for Rove.

If it is an "anti war crowd" what do we call the pro war minority? A gathering?

On this McCain thing, at the end of the column his campaign clarified the comment. His temper & demeanor used to enamor

LOL just what we need another hip shooter who needs clarification from his tenders.

Now that he's got the MoveOn crowd in his sights (and the anti war crowd in general)
Posted by OohRah

"The anti war crowd"

More than half the nation. What is he running for again?

Was that Nixon, or who?

If we lose our citizenship and are thrown out of the country, no problem. We can always sneak in across the border with Mexico and then McCain will give us amnesty.

These right wing war mongers don't like it when the left speaks out with the same passion that the right thinks it owns. After all Patreus's testimony and the comparison of his words with all the other reports, reports about his boss Fallon, it does begin to sound that Patreus Betrayed Us.
I don't need the permission of the right to express my opinion and they do not get to decide what is unAmerican and what is not though they continuously pretend they do.

I don't need the permission of the right to express my opinion and they do not get to decide what is unAmerican and what is not though they continuously pretend they do.

Posted by danni

Yo !

good to know where mccain stands on the concept of free speech. What an american !!

Wow. McCain has been growing ever more loony for the past couple of years, but this one seals the deal. He is officially out of his mind.

OK, rather than quibble over the relative terms of "crowd" or others... how about "segment of the US population"?

The point I'm making is McCain was a darling when bashing his own party and supporting things like 'campaign reform' but once he sided with the evil one on the war and began to blast the anti-war folks he became just another idiot Rep.

When he went to that Baghdad market and lied through his teeth he sort of lost any credibility he ever had. Just another lying Republican pretending Iraq is a great success and an important front in the war on terror. He wastes our time by campaigning, he won't get the nominatin and is really just turning into an irrelevant clown.

McCain is an ass....now he has moved to proving it!

Cut him some slack. The world convinced him that he was the heir apparent for the GOP, and now reality is setting in. His best shot now is for Tancredo to pick him as his running mate.

It's gotta be frustrating spending 8 years kissing the ass of someone you know screwed you over and is unworthy to shine your shoes and get nothing out of it. Like taking care of an incontinent bitchy rich aunt only to find out she left everything to her poodles.

when he bent over for bush on torture,he lost it.

mccain lost it legitimately. stupidity. lies. moronic behavior. dont forget that while new orleans was flooding bush and macain were sharing johns birthday cake in phoenix.

OohRah

It was the same with Liberman

welcome to politics

when macains wifes drug addiction was made public. what was the comment of the liar who would be president? " I didnt know "

McCain Wants MoveOn to Move Out

McCain was trying to steal some of Rudy's thunder by taking the attack against moveon.org to another level -- but it obvioulsy backfired.

DOEM-
I'd agree with that. Lieberman is embraced by the Right based on one issue - our steadfastness militarily in dealing with Islamic terror.

But beyond that single issue, there isn't anything for the Right to like about Joe. At least with McCain there were multiple issues the Left thought McCain saw their way.

our steadfastness militarily in dealing with Islamic terror.

You mean our continued role as Israel's bitch don't you? Cause Bush has pretty thoroughly fucked up the whole militarily dealing with islamic terror by ignoring afghanistan and waziristan ans saudistan and screwing up in Iraq. Arming and paying American-killing sunni terrorists opposed to the government 4000 Americans died to create in the vain hopes they won't turn on us again is pretty lame, even for a Republican.
His next step-Iran-will be even a bigger failure, but Joementum and Israel want it, so...

McCain Wants MoveOn to Move Out

McCain was trying to steal some of Rudy's thunder by taking the attack against moveon.org to another level -- but it obvioulsy backfired.

Posted by Bowa


Mmoveon is set to do anumber on Rudy, too. I had forgotten all about Rudy's lack of interest in the post-9/11commission he was on. Too busy giving speeches for money to serve, I guess, so he simply quit.

What a guy.

Let it be known that I am an avid supporter of MoveOn.

In the 1960s J. Edgar Hoover ordered the FBI to not break up potential terror cells, like the SDS. They would attract the pathologically insane, and make it easier to keep an eye on them. Whatever you think of Hoover, this was a sound policy that's still used regarding radical Muslims.

(Quick North! Mention Hoover's cross-dressing. You can always be counted on to regurgitate what everyone has heard a hundred times already)

For the same reason, MoveOn should be left intact. Insane Liberals cheered last week when MoveOn trashed Petraeous -- BEFORE he even gave his testimony.

Plus, it was fun watching Hillary! sulk at the hearings because MoveOn (founded to rescue her husband) has stolen all the attention.

Mmoveon is set to do anumber on Rudy, too.

LOL

Can't wait. Any attack on Rudy by moveon.org just means more GOP votes in his pocket.

Fred who?

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: Giuliani Quit Iraq Study Group After Being Given "Stark Choice" to "Attend The Meetings or Quit," And He Took The Cash. The panel's top Republican gave him "a stark choice: either attend the meetings or quit, several sources said." Giuliani quit, and as Newsday noted, "the sessions at times conflicted with Giuliani's lucrative speaking tour that garnered him $11.4 million in 14 months." [Newsday (New York), 06/19/07]

Let it be known that I am an avid supporter of MoveOn.

Let it be known that I know where Vernon can buy a straitjacket real cheap.

LOL

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: Giuliani Quit Iraq Study Group After Being Given "Stark Choice" to "Attend The Meetings or Quit,"

I believe the real reason Rudy left was that he knew he might be running for President and he didn't want to be locked into any of the groups recommendations that he didn't agree with.

It was a smart move, the "he took the money instead" acusation is pretty lame and will only appeal to small segment of the population who wasn't going to vote for him under any circumstance -- on the other hand, by freeing himself from the policy recommendations of the Iraq Study group, he can postion himself the way he wants to position himself on the issue, Which he has done -- and hsi Iraq policy has become the most attractive reason for the traditional GOP base to vote for him.

The fact that Rudy's made millions of dollars as a result of 9/11 does not reflect any sort of ghoulishness or political opportunism on his part. He is merely accepting, with humility and grace, the rewards that come to someone who happens to be in the right place at the right time and knows how to take advantage of that fortuitous circumstance. Oh, some will say he was running around down by the WTC site on 9/11 trying to locate the command post he'd put in the builiding, knowing that the very same terorists who attacked it when Bill Clinton was in office would not be in a position to attack it yet again. But, the gods did not smile that day in September 2001, during the watch of He Who Shall Remain Nameless, and Sir Rudy's command post evaporated, split, vaporized, went kaboom in the explosions. He'd left some important papers, or so it's been claimed, in the command post and needed to reclaim them. (Less kind souls maintain he was looking for his second cousin, who'd been dumped along the career pathway years before.) But along the way, he rallied a grateful nation and afterwards reaped the not inconsiderable rewards. Plenty moohlah. A Man, a plan, a canal, Panama! That's Hizzoner! It's the American Way!

God Bless Compassionate Repulican Moderationalistismistics!

God Bless Sir Rudy!

More than half the nation.

Posted by Zap

I don't know if I believe that or not. That's a lot of people. 150 million.

""I believe the real reason Rudy left was that he knew he might be running for President and he didn't want to be locked into any of the groups recommendations that he didn't agree with.""

Yeah, 11.4 million dollars didn't really matter to him. Riiiight!

"It's disgraceful, it's got to be retracted and condemned by the Democrats, and MoveOn.org ought to be thrown out of this country."

Maybe all the time that McCaint spent giving military secrets to the North Vietnamese in exchange for medical treatment laid the groundwork for his trampeling of the constitution and hatred for freedom of speech.

But what explains Bushlings hatred of freedom?

he's no longer the darling "maverick" he once was.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-09-16 07:36 PM | Reply

He has not been a maverick since he bent over and took it in the ass from Rove & Co. in 2004.

I had forgotten all about Rudy's lack of interest in the post-9/11commission he was on. Too busy giving speeches for money to serve, I guess, so he simply quit.

What a guy.

Posted by midiman at 2007-09-17 10:50 AM | Repl

Let's not forget the fact that he placed the city's terrorism command post in the biggest terrorist target in the city! Brilliant!

Nor lets not forget that the 1993 attack pointed out that the emergency responders radio equipment was inadequate for the job yet Rotten Rudy failed to upgrade the radios. How many repsonders died because of his failures? Brilliant!

If Rotten Rudy cannot makes $$$$ off of 9/11 then he doesn't want to be involved in it. That is why he never attended a committee meeting.

But beyond that single issue, there isn't anything for the Right to like about Joe. At least with McCain there were multiple issues the Left thought McCain saw their way.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-09-17 10:37 AM | Reply

Nah, you are missing the issue that Joe thinks it is fine to give away our civil liberties for the sake of a false sense of security. He agrees with the right on that one as well.

and I want to be a polygamist with Adrianna Lima and Jennifer Aniston as my wives, but that ain't gonna happen either.

This is news because?

Rudy walked away from the ISG and Freddy from a war Senate. Both for money.
That makes them dream candidates for the GOP. Cash over country.
Since neither one of them deigned to put on a military uniform, this should come as no shock to anyone but is an added incentive for the chickenhawk voters.

"Let it be known that I know where Vernon can buy a straitjacket real cheap.

LOL

Posted by Bowa at 2007-09-17 10:55 AM"

Bowa's Yard Sale? LOL indeed.

I believe the real reason Rudy left was that he knew he might be running for President and he didn't want to be locked into any of the groups recommendations that he didn't agree with.



Gee, what a surprise that THIS is what YOU believe. Nice thing about repubs: by offering multiple reasons for their actions, their true believers can always find one that they like.

Let's not forget the fact that he placed the city's terrorism command post in the biggest terrorist target in the city! Brilliant!

Posted by JimmyWallback at 2007-09-17 12:03 PM | Reply

But you are conveniently forgetting the fact that New York has MULTIPLE command posts scattered throughout the city. You conspiracy clowns only want to talk about the one at WTC-7, and 'forget' about the other five.

Hey Vernon - you are getting a new hole ripped for you on the Greenspan thread. May want to over and defend yourself:

"Hm. $80/barrel now."

oil will be below $40 a barrel by the end of 2006.

Write it down.

Posted by vernon at 2006-06-30 12:17 PM
Hans

Posted by Hans at 2007-09-15 11:06 PM"

Silly old man. (Or was this just a calculator problem, and you really meant "below $400 a barrel"?)

John McCain...The Censorship president. Has a nice ring to it.

I don't remember him saying that about the SwiftVets For Bush.

I wonder why that is..........HMMMMMmmmmm.

The point I'm making is McCain was a darling when bashing his own party and supporting things like 'campaign reform' but once he sided with the evil one on the war and began to blast the anti-war folks he became just another idiot Rep.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-09-17 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag:


Kinda like Chuck Hagel?

when he bent over for bush on torture,he lost it.

Posted by truthhurts at 2007-09-17 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

In McCain's defense, I don't believe he ever "bent over" for Bush regarding torture. He been steadfast on that all along.....I may be wrong, but I remember hearing him speak out against torture on numerous occasions.

Plus, it was fun watching Hillary! sulk at the hearings because MoveOn (founded to rescue her husband) has stolen all the attention.

Posted by vernon at 2007-09-17 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

C'mon....ya know it's even MORE fun to watch tRudy and Jowels McCain MELTDOWN over having the truth exposed.

Hillary sulked?

Who was it that attacked Hillary, SIMPLY because she wouldn't say anything bad about the MoveOn ad?

It was that loon tRudy.

But beyond that single issue, there isn't anything for the Right to like about Joe. At least with McCain there were multiple issues the Left thought McCain saw their way.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-09-17 10:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just more proof that the left is a broad minded group of people who can reach across the aisle.

The right? No.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but what's with Rudy G's very pronounced lisp? Is it a speach impediment? Is it for real? What gives?

Please don't take this the wrong way, but what's with Rudy G's very pronounced lisp? Is it a speach impediment? Is it for real? What gives?

Posted by mOntecOre at 2007-09-17 01:29 PM | Reply


I've learned to not let his lisp bother me anymore. It's the whole "SUPER WIDE EYES" thing he does when he's trying to convey something "important".

Do yourself a dis-service and look for it next time. You won't be able to stop noticing it after that.

MoveOn.org IS a collection of far left loonies and conspiracy theorists. But, what has that to do with their right to Freedom of Speech? McCain needs to start carrying that little book on the Constitution around with him just to remind him where he comes from.

If you don't like MoveOn.org, turn them off. That's what I do.

Until anyone on the right can denounce Swift Boat Veterans for Hypocrisy and tell them to leave these United States, nobody agreeing with McCain on the right has a leg to stand on.

"Do yourself a dis-service and look for it next time. You won't be able to stop noticing it after that.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2007-09-17 01:35 PM"

For some reason, I'll do that. (Along those lines, my wife pointed out to me years ago that Tom "Couch-Bounce" Cruise's teeth don't line up with his nose. Pretty off-putting, actually.)

Vernon,

The only mistake that MOVEON.ORG made was to use their own words to describe General Betrayus.

Instead, they should have used the words of Betrayus' BOSS, Admiral William Fallon:

Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be "an ass-kissing little chickenshit" and added, "I hate people like that".

I, and MOVEON.ORG, couldn't have said it any better than THAT.

So should Admiral Fallon be tossed out of the USA as well?

"Just more proof that the left is a broad minded group of people who can reach across the aisle.

The right? No." - COM

Incorrect - a - mundo there COM. By his multiple left-leaning stances McCain was in line with what Dems support - not the case of Dems "reaching out" to McCain. McCain loved the adoration heaped upon him by the MSM for bucking the GOP's system.

As for being broad minded... and reaching across the aisle. Out of curiousity are there any Dems who publicly promote the Bush policy in Iraq or continued Bush tax cuts and who still have kneecaps? Doubtful. Lieberman strays on ONE issue and he's blacklisted. If the parties and stances were reversed you'd say he was "principled" for "speaking his mind" despite the tidal wave of party opposition.

The same source that claims Bush called the constitution a piece of paper is the same source that heard Fallon...

101,

I understand your protecting one of your fellow 101st Airborne guys but I really doubt the same source originated both of those items. Particularly since the comments made TO Petraeus were made in a CENTCOM meeting in BAGHDAD last March. Since there would not be any political people in a CENTCOM meeting, you will have to hang the comment around a military neck, not a political one.

Browsing through Petraeus' career, the ass-kisser tag looks very appropriate since the man never came NEAR a battlefield for the first 26 years of his miliraey career. He did suffer a wound, but that happened in the USA by a fellow soldier who tripped in the barracks and discharged a loaded rifle into his chest.
I know how that can be since my brother, a former Marine, had the same thing happen to him. The only difference was that the bullet went through both of his thighs instead of into his chest.

I also have an uncle who became a high officer and never came near a battlefield, but died a drunk from all of the parties he would throw for fellow officers on his way up the rank ladder.

Don't get me wrong, I don't belittle our military by these facts. That is the reality of the situation and each and every one of them is ready to go on a mission if ordered to. Just like a police officer who may go through his/her whole career without discharging their weapon in anger, that is the way the dice roll. Some do battle and some don't. They all are in a position to do so if called upon.

By the way, were you with the 101st? I have friends who served with them and fortunately none of them had to jump into a combat situation thankfully. I admired all of them.

In McCain's defense, I don't believe he ever "bent over" for Bush regarding torture. He been steadfast on that all along.....I may be wrong, but I remember hearing him speak out against torture on numerous occasions.

Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2007-09-17 01:16 PM | Reply |

As I remember it he spoke out right up until Bush castrated that bill with a signing statement, then it was hush hush.

Knighthawk: Exactly. That's when I lost my last bit of respect for McCain.

Shy,
I wasn't in the 101.
I also don't have an opinion on Petraeus other than I think he acquitted himself well before the Pols.

As for his combat experience, there are plenty of people that have never seen combat. I'll bet 3/4's of the officers with a mustard stain on their airborne wings jumped in to Panama or Greneda 12-24 hours after the initial combat jump. Some officers fly in to a combat zone for a afternoon nap so they can get it on their DD214.

I don't see anyone at that rank saying that in a meeting to another high ranking officer and it not turning into a shouting match (they didn't get to that rank with out egos, and nobody is going to be talked to that way and not respond.

I have no dog in that hunt, the story just smells bad.

Incorrect - a - mundo there COM. By his multiple left-leaning stances McCain was in line with what Dems support - not the case of Dems "reaching out" to McCain. McCain loved the adoration heaped upon him by the MSM for bucking the GOP's system.

As for being broad minded... and reaching across the aisle. Out of curiousity are there any Dems who publicly promote the Bush policy in Iraq or continued Bush tax cuts and who still have kneecaps? Doubtful. Lieberman strays on ONE issue and he's blacklisted. If the parties and stances were reversed you'd say he was "principled" for "speaking his mind" despite the tidal wave of party opposition.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-09-17 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

WOW...I'm not sure where to start. People don't reach across to Bush because Bush doesn't want it. Bush has proven this time and time again with his actions and doesn't want to unite people. You can just look at his Justice Dept and see that all he wanted were locksteppers and when he couldn't find them, he went to a back woods "law school" to find people to fill the ranks, regardless of credentials. so long as there was an R in the correct column.

Also, I remember it was Clinton who had republicans in his cabinet, and he said all along that he wanted them as a balance to many of his own yes men. Bush? NOPE.

COM-
What's Dubya got to do with it? I was talking about the Dem party blacklisting its own members if they dare speak out in favor of Dubya's war or tax policy. In other words, someone agreeing with the enemy gets his kneecaps broken - like Lieberman.

As for McCain he still enjoys a pretty high seat at the Rep trough, warts and all. He won't win our nomination because he's too accomodating to "the enemy - Dems" but we didn't drive him out like what happened with ol' Joe.

While I know you'll disagree, I think Bush came to DC really wanting to work with Dems. The Education Bill had Teddy Kennedy written all over it. There were other instances in the past, too. As usual, the Dems bit the extended hand - frankly I wish Bush would have given it back as hard as taking it. He's done a poor job in using the bully pulpit to call a spade a spade. Clinton was sharp at doing that. Not so, W.

" As usual, the Dems bit the extended hand"

YEAH!

Says the "Contract with America", "Bush is a Fiscal Conservative", "Only Republicans can keep you Safe" so-sayer!

I think ten months ago we saw the extended bitten hand in use -- and it was firmly on the piehole of your beloved Fake Plastic Sons of Bitchs!

Just who the fuck do you think you are kidding (still)!

COM-
What's Dubya got to do with it? I was talking about the Dem party blacklisting its own members if they dare speak out in favor of Dubya's war or tax policy. In other words, someone agreeing with the enemy gets his kneecaps broken - like Lieberman.
...............

Posted by OohRah at 2007-09-17 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

See my earlier post. Chuck Hagel? Has he not been blasted by his party for disagreeing with the war? Tell me I'm wrong.

Dear John McCain,

Eat a dick.

Sincerely,

The Constitution

P.S. Thanks for your service!

Hehehehe.... LOL...LOL... heheheh... really laughing....

Finally, moveon.hate has exposed its true character: obnoxious, indecent, hateful, and IMMATURE.

McCain is just using rhetoric to vomit on the character-assassinating organisation.

Dems need moveon.org yet are embarassed but its immature activities.

"Dems need moveon.org yet are embarassed but its immature activities."

Much like the Republicans and the religious right.

Bullshit!

Tell the truth on the Decider and his minions and they cry like little babys.

Bring it on!

McCain is still campaigning? Why?

......McCain.......the sock puppet's sock puppet....

*****McCain is just using rhetoric to vomit on the character-assassinating organisation.

Dems need moveon.org yet are embarassed but its immature activities.

Posted by takitez******


.........so do you think he is feeling swift-boated ?....

As far as dirty tricks and smear tactics, the GOP does not have a leg to stand on for anything short of murder.