Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, September 07, 2007

Seven U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq, including four in the western province of Anbar, where gains in security were hailed this week by U.S. President George W. Bush during an unannounced visit to the region.

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No, the surge is "apparently" working, the surge is working.

should have been
No, the surge isn't "apparently" working, the surge is working.

Seven Soldiers Killed in Anbar

RCADE, if the story is correct,your headline is erroneous.

the story says:
"Seven U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq, including four in the western province of Anbar,"

The headline should read " Four Soldiers Killed in Anbar"


Please make the correction when you get the chance.


Lokisfur aka Bowa is worried about the truthfulness of a headline when He makes deliberately Lying headlines Himself knowing full well they are lies. what a fucking shmuck.

Larry

The headline should read " Four Soldiers Killed in Anbar"

That way it looks slightly less bad, right?

Unbelievable.

.......our children are dying for nothing......

"The headline should read 'Four Soldiers Killed in Anbar'"

The headline should read "Seven Dead Soldiers Join 3,753 Others Killed in a Country They Should Never Have Been Sent To"

No, the surge isn't "apparently" working, the surge is working.

Yes, the surge is working Danni -- I guess we will know how much it is working next week when petraous gives his report.

But I know that you were just being sarcastic.

One of the mmost hilarious things for me to watch is when Lefties point to daily casualty rates in single digits!!! as proof that the war is hopelessly lost and we cannot win. Of course, one thing that is rarely reported is the casualty rates of our enemies -- which are consideradbly larger.

So I guess Danni if we are killing more of the bad guys, then they are killing us -- we must be winning right?

Sanan counts dead soldiers and gleefully uses them to subvert any successes those soldiers achieved ...

Scumsuckers infest this site like lice!

The public is becoming aware of the term, "Schadenfreude", you anti-patriotic trash, and will certainly be aware of the thrill you scum feel when another soldier's death is announced ...

... I'll bet some of you even masturbate to the news, you perverted pack of treasonous scum ...

"I guess we'll know how much it's working next week, when Petraeous gives his report...."

Unfortunately, it seems like Petraeous isn't the straight-shooter that was hoped, and his creative statistics will do nothing to help himself or the war.

"Sanan counts dead soldiers and gleefully uses them to subvert any successes those soldiers achieved .."

Repeating that tired old verse over and over and over and over and over is getting about as repetitive as a Herman's Hermits lyric.

"Second verse same as the first" 2-3-4

Deaths in Iraq

6-2007 US 101 Brit 7 Coaliton 0 ISF 197 Iraqis 1148 Total 1453

7-2007 US 79 Brit 8 Coalition 1 ISF 232 Iraqis 1458 Total 1778

8-2007 US 84 Brit 4 Coalition 0 ISF 76 Iraqis 1598 Total 1762

Pretty clear how the surge is going.

Zed calls Patreous a liar... and before the general can say a word!

Just exactly what I would expect from a scumsucking traitor selling out his country for partisan votes ...

Wounded RTD then and Wounded Evacd

31-May-07 thru 13-Jun-07 75 45
14-Jun-07 thru 20-Jun-07 104 75
21-Jun-07 thru 27-Jun-07 132 89

Total June 07 520

28-Jun-07 thru 04-Jul-07 80 128
05-Jul-07 thru 11-Jul-07 82 55
12-Jul-07 thru 17-Jul-07 105 6
18-Jul-07 thru 25-Jul-07 52 95
26-Jul-07 thru 01-Aug-07 86 65

Total July 07 754

02-Aug-07 thru 08-Aug-07 88 87
09-Aug-07 thru 15-Aug-07 100 30
16-Aug-07 thru 22-Aug-07 54 43
23-Aug-07 thru 29-Aug-07 67 89

Total August 07 558

compare to timeframe from 06

01-Jun-06 thru 06-Jun-06 53 96
07-Jun-06 thru 07-Jun-06 52 50
08-Jun-06 thru 14-Jun-06 69 65
15-Jun-06 thru 21-Jun-06 75 7
22-Jun-06 thru 28-Jun-06 72 52


Total 591

29-Jun-06 thru 05-Jul-06 66 24
06-Jul-06 thru 11-Jul-06 44 44
12-Jul-06 thru 18-Jul-06 81 33
19-Jul-06 thru 26-Jul-06 57 112

Total 461

27-Jul-06 thru 02-Aug-06 99 16
03-Aug-06 thru 09-Aug-06 64 51
10-Aug-06 thru 16-Aug-06 78 46
17-Aug-06 thru 24-Aug-06 62 36
25-Aug-06 thru 30-Aug-06 95 69

Total 616


Compare Total 06 1668
vs
Total 07 1832


surge is working?

Zed calls Patreous a liar... and before the general can say a word!

Just exactly what I would expect from a scumsucking traitor selling out his country for partisan votes ...

Posted by tadowe


wouldnt you define a traitor as someone who gives lawyers guns and money to people who attack and kill us soldiers?

or how about another definition of a traitor, someone who by outing a CIA agent put at risk the national security of our country.

gee I wonder what ever happened to all of that agents contacts? I am sure none of them paid with their lives for having worked with her.

"Yes, the surge is working Danni -- I guess we will know how much it is working next week when petraous gives his report."


State Department official says political solution 'hopeless'

The confidential version of Congress' Congressional Research Report on Iraq declares that Iraq's government is "in collapse," according to the New York Daily News' James Meek, who first acquired the report.

The report was completed Aug. 15 for the House and Senate, as President Bush geared up for a fresh battle with Congress over his intent to 'stay the course.'

"My assessment is that because of the number and breadth of parties boycotting the cabinet, the Iraqi government is in essential collapse," Kenneth Katzman, the author of the report, said, according to Meek. "That argues against any real prospects for political reconciliation."

Without a political infrastructure in Iraq, any military progress would be short-lived, he added.

Repeat:

Without a political infrastructure in Iraq, any military progress would be short-lived,

Sanan hates repeaters unless he does it ...

What an hypocrite you are - repeating the ghoulish effort to count dead soldiers for partisan gain... and then hating those who reply to the constant, anti-patriotic, even treasonous, effort to demean and revile any success in our war against terrorism by stacking the dead.

I consider such people to be scumsucking, faithless, perverted traitors to the United States and the party that hold more dear than their nation's honor and the hope for a free and democratic world ...

Another pathetic thing is how Lefties point to casualty rates as "proof" that the war is already lost and we have been defeated.

LOL

Since when are casualties considered a determining factor in whether or not a war is a failure or success?

I mean, I can think of many wars in which the eventual victor had much higher casulaties then the enemy for considerable time before the tide was turned. Sometimes for the entire war.

for example, The Union Army under Lincoln immediately comes to mind. The South was beating the North for the first two years of the Civil War and losing a lot less men in the process.

Should Lincoln have decided the war was hopelessly lost and just surrendered to the south based on the casualty rates?

I guess the Lefties on this site would say yes. They seem to think that a war that has any casualties at all is hopelessly lost. one, four, seven in a day -- all proof that we have been defeated.

pathetic.

And yet more proof that Liberals cannot be trusted with the security of this Nation in the 21st Century.

Without a political infrastructure in Iraq, any military progress would be short-lived,

Without the military progress being made now, creation of a political infrastructure would be impossible.

"Without the military progress being made now, creation of a political infrastructure would be impossible."

So since the Iraqi's are showing little or no inclination to get their act together then we just stay forever? Is that your position?

TH sucks some scum, "or how about another definition of a traitor, someone who by outing a CIA agent put at risk the national security of our country."

I don't think Sanan is going to revile you for repeating this canard, is he? No, of course not! Traitors of a feather stick together!

"gee I wonder what ever happened to all of that agents contacts? I am sure none of them paid with their lives for having worked with her."

You aren't all that bright now, are you? I mean, you repeat this lie over-and-over and in that way it becomes real to that sucking vacuum you call a mind ...

Plame was out by Armitage you stupid jerk! Wake up! This is 2007!

Zed calls Patreous a liar... and before the general can say a word!

Posted by tadowe


If he wants to retire with all his stars, he damn well better lie.

Sanan pretends to ask, "So since the Iraqi's are showing little or no inclination to get their act together then we just stay forever? Is that your position?"

No, just as long as we stayed in Bosnia ... but you scumsuckers can't wait, can you? You only have patience when it is your war ... a Democratic's war that involves the entire USA...

When it is a Republican war that involves the entire USA?

... then Democratics subvert any success ... demean and revile all war efforts constantly, repeatedly, over-and-over for years on end !!!

Scumsucking, puling, hypocritical traitors to country in order to advance their evil, scumsucking party uber alles ...

Tadowe

Libby didn't know Armitage had spoken to anyone. He's just as guilty. In fact, he went out of his way to let reporters know who Valerie Plame was.

Keep sticking up for your favorite incompetent crooks in the White House though. Why you do is baffling.

rawstory.com

Many senior State Department officials in Iraq believe a political solution to the war is now "hopeless," according to a top diplomat.

"I would agree with that," Katzman (author of the report) said.

The CRS analysis said Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is trying to save a "collapsing government" while fending off rivals who wish to topple him.

While U.S. troops have succeeded in temporarily pacifying Anbar Province west of Baghdad, violence has spiked north of the city in provinces such as Diyala, where Al Qaeda in Iraq relocated, he said.

Ps They sent these seven brave souls to their death too - along with the 4000 others.

Now we know that Bush KNEW there were no WMD's in Iraq. Remember? The reason we went in? Well, before reasons 2, 3, and 4 which came after no WMD's were found.

Wellllll, I know Petraeous is a "liar." So is Bush, Cheney, Rice, You know, EVERY republican, libertarian, independent and ANYONE opposed to MoveOn or KOS. However, how about these people, are THEY liars too???? Somehow they have pissed off Soros and his minions.

MoveOn vs. Democrats
Punishing Congressmen for reporting what they see in Iraq.

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT

In the Hell Hath No Fury sweepstakes, groups like MoveOn.org are gearing up to take on a new set of perceived traitors in their midst--Democrats who have acknowledged some success from the troop surge in Iraq.

Chief among the targets is Washington Congressman Brian Baird, whose indiscretion was recognizing progress on the ground, despite having initially opposed the surge and having opposed the war in the first place. After a recent trip to Iraq, Mr. Baird said: "One of the things that gets very little attention is that virtually every other country I visited says it would be a mistake to pull out now."

We hope he took his flak jacket home from Baghdad. MoveOn is rolling out an ad this week in Mr. Baird's Washington district, in which a former soldier tells of being shot at in 2003 by the Iraqis he had fought to liberate and calls America's continued presence in the country "wrong, immoral and irresponsible." What does this have to do with the wisdom--or lack thereof--of the current strategy? Nada, which tells you something about MoveOn's honesty.

The group doesn't aim to engage in debate, but to punish and silence Democrats who dare to think for themselves. There's a pattern here: When John Dingell contradicted party orthodoxy on global warming and auto mileage standards this year, MoveOn ran ads in his Michigan district calling the 81-year-old Congressman "Dingellsaurus."

Mr. Baird is hardly alone in his assessment of progress in Iraq, even among Democrats. In the past month, Senate Democrats Carl Levin, Hillary Clinton, Dick Durbin, Bob Casey and Jack Reed have all acknowledged progress on the ground--though many still downplay the overall chances of success.
Representatives Keith Ellison (Minnesota) and Jerry McNerney (California) recently returned "impressed" by what they'd seen, though they were careful to temper their statements for any perceived optimism. After watching U.S. soldiers greet Iraqis in Arabic with "peace be upon you," Mr. Ellison reported that "they would respond back with smiles and waves" before quickly adding, "I don't want to overplay it." It's a measure of how far the antiwar left has moved the debate on Iraq that Mr. Ellison doesn't want to sound too enthusiastic about the chances that the U.S. might actually win.

Mr. Baird is so far showing no signs of backing down from his comments. In response to the MoveOn attacks, he said: "I believe I must speak and act based on what I believe is in the best interest of our nation regardless of political advertisements or partisan interests. Based on personal visits to the region, I believe the dynamics on the ground in Iraq are changing for the better and, while there are still multiple and serious challenges, and while the course is uncertain and dangerous, the changes I have seen warrant continued support of current actions through next spring."

Nice to see some political backbone in Washington. Meanwhile, MoveOn and its billionaire donors are out to solidify their ideological control of the Democratic Party, even if that means denying what is actually happening inside Iraq."

""Should Lincoln have decided the war was hopelessly lost and just surrendered to the south based on the casualty rates?""

Yeah BOWA the American Civil War is analogous to an unnecessary war in Iraq, both were equally necessary to the security of the United STates.
What a fucking tool you are.
You just can't even deal with the FACT that the "single digit" deaths in Iraq are "single digit" deaths for nothing important to Americans.
They are "single digit" deaths just to prevent Bush from having to accept the FACT that HIS war is a disaster. An unnecessary disaster. A disaster that benefits our enemies.
You are like many of the Vietnam war supporters who tried to believe in that war for years after we left but most of whom finally, with much shame, admitted they were wrong. That 58,000 died for nothing. Stubborn morons who refuse to deal with facts.
Sickening.
Traitorous.

So since the Iraqi's are showing little or no inclination to get their act together then we just stay forever? Is that your position?

No, my position is that now that we have achieved success in securing the country, we are providing the governemnt the environment to resolve their differences and move forward -- and there are already hopeful signs that is happening since the Government came back on Sept. 1st. We certainly shouldn't think about pulling out now that;s for sure.

I think much of the turmoil in the nation has been caused by the citizenry not knowing which faction to bet on -- leaving them with divided loyalties.

Al-Quada lost the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people with their draconian and oppressive methods, and the people turned on them -- and turned to the US troops to help them. Now Sadr is on the run and losing his grip over the people.

So an environemnt is being created where the government is increasingly the only game in town -- and because of that -- the people will increasingly look to the governemnt to solve their problems instead of the local militias and groups that have so far failed in their attempts to undermine the democratically elected government.



JUSTGETTINGALONG...how long can we sustain the surge??? Do we actually have the troops???
Just a political stunt to enable Bush to continue his war.
Cynical at best. Criminal.

Oh, oh...Danni has a big wad in her panties AGAIN. I should say STILL. Or maybe BOWA just peed in her cereal this morning??

That way it looks slightly less bad, right?
Unbelievable.

Posted by ness_gadol

NO! It looks a lot more like the truth. You libs are Unbelievable.

Listen you Plame jerkoffs -- Plame was NEVER a covert agent according to the law. She was NOC at most and then only up until '93 when Ames outed all the covert agents to the Cubans and Soviets ...

Armitage told that Plame worked for the CIA, not Bush, not Cheney, not Libby or anyone else in the administration.

It is just another indication of your slavish support for reviling and demeaning a fellow American citizen, so that your party of subversives can gain power in subverting the war and lying for years about it and everything else you can muckrake to dehumanize a fellow American citizen ... your own president!

No words can express the vileness that oozes out of your party of traitors ...

"unnecessary war"
"deaths for nothing"

Tell me again Danni how you support our troops in completing their mission?

I am glad at least that you admit the number of casulaties is irrelevant to the outcome of this war -- and that if you believed in the mission, and believed the war was necessary, then any human cost would not be too much to bear.

Alternatively, because you do not believe in this war, and do not believe in the mission you admit that you are actively seeking to undermine the mission of our troops in harms ways by portraying even irrelelevant casualty statistics as proof that they have lost, been defeated, and those who have died have died in vain.

Tell me again Danni how you support our troops in completing their mission? How you "love" our troops?

... I'll bet some of you even masturbate to the news, you perverted pack of treasonous scum ...
Posted by tadowe at 2007-09-07 08:48 AM |


Interesting you'd come up with that, Tad. Does the volume of your semenic release increase as the number of dead rises? Are you limp during peacetime?

You can support the troos and still not support the policy that led them into harms way. You pieces of shit on the right just can not grasp this very fact. You don't have the fucking balls to.

Larry

You can support the troops and still not support the policy that led them into harms way. You pieces of shit on the right just can not grasp this very fact. You don't have the fucking balls to.

Larry

"No words can express the vileness that oozes out of your party of traitors ..."

Tadly somehow believes that if he just keeps writing things like this at the end of each of his posts it will miraculously make it true, and vindicate his minority position on almost every topic.

Kinda reminds me of Dick Cheney - if I just keep saying it enough, maybe America will believe the lie.


Tadley is still upset that Scooter never wrote a sequel to his Patriotic book about caged bears and children.

""Tell me again Danni how you support our troops in completing their mission?""

That's a nice attempt to put words in my mouth BOWA.
I support the troops. I support bringing the troops home. I NEVER supported this idiotic mission. I will never support this mission. I don't even believe that this mission is morally acceptable. When war for oil is the mission then the leaders who send the troops are nothing but criminals. Bring our troops home. Let the Iraqis have their oil. No PSA is worth a single American life.

RCade,

With all do respect, I solemnly and purposefully and hereby do request that you altar the headline to more accurately reflect the content of the news report. To wit: "300,000,000 Americans Have Not Died in Anbar." Thank you for giving this matter your attention. I realize, of coarse, that you are a busy fellow---probably accepting all those payoffs from the Defeatocrat Party (just a joke!)---but please do due dilligence and attend to this as rapdily as possible. Within the next five minutes would be good. Plus, it would show that you support Our Troops as they Go In Harm's Way and that you are probably not a supporter of Islamofacism and Mooselmania. Thank you and God Bless,
Boa

Good one Boa! FF

bwhahahahaha i just snorted milk. Boa whoever You are You are damned good.

Larry

Plame was out by Armitage you stupid jerk! Wake up! This is 2007!


Posted by tadowe


armitage, libby bush rove and cheney cooked this all together.

this was a political policy that no staffer would have done.

stupid jerk

Support THIS Bowa:

In 2002, Bush Told Iraq Had No WMDs

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.


www.drudge.com

No, my position is that now that we have achieved success in securing the country, ...



except we have not achieved success in securing the country.

deaths have not reduced,

woundings have not reduced.

if security was achieved these indicators would decrease.

BOA rocks!
That was truely excellent.

"To wit: "300,000,000 Americans Have Not Died in Anbar."

FF

completing their mission?


what mission?

TH piles up, "armitage, libby bush rove and cheney cooked this all together."

You forgot the tooth fairy, scumsucker.

With all do respect, I solemnly and purposefully and hereby do request that you altar the headline to more accurately reflect the content of the news report.

Funny stuff.

Of course, my ulterior motive for pointing out Rcade's erroneous headline was to show those who attack my headlines to be the hypocrites they are.

I can guarantee that if 7 soldiers had been killed in anbar and I had posted a headline saying only 4 soldiers had been killed -- this entire thread would about my "lying, dishonest headline".

LOL

That's how pathetically predictable most of the people on this site are.

hahahaha keep drinking the koolaid idiot.

"Armitage told that Plame worked for the CIA, not Bush, not Cheney, not Libby or anyone else in the administration."

TadWOE

You don't know your facts. Libby went out of his way to meet with Judith Miller and other reporters to disseminate the fact that Plame worked for the CIA. All without knowing that Armitage had spilled the beans to Novak. Rove confirmed to Novak without knowing Armitage spoke to anyone.

Read up a little, THEN comment? You'll look less foolish when you know what you're talking about. Piled on top of your incessant 'traitors' blah blah blah you really look the fool shooting off your mouth when the facts dispute your incorrect version of history

how pathetically predictable most of the people on this site are.
Posted by Bowa


ROTFLMAO

AU goes on and on...

Are you actually this stupid? Or, are you just another hypocritical stooge for party over nation?

There is no crime in revealing Plame as working for the CIA!!! Otherwise there would be an indictment for revealing her status...

Indeed! It is fascinating that she worked for the same office which hired her husband to do this "investigation" and which confirmed that Iraq HAD attempted to gain access to Niger's yellowcake uranium!

Can you say N-E-P-O-T-I-S-M? Can you say, C-O-L-L-U-S-I-O-N to discredit the president by members of the CIA? Can you say, T-R-E-A-S-O-N?

No, because your Democratic gang are a self-blinded, scumsucking antipatriotic hypocrites ...

Plame did admit she recomended her husband for the fact finding job. Shame on the administration for letting a person with an ax to grind go on that trip. Bush screwed up when he left a bunch of Clinton supporters in power when he took office. Shame on Bush for that, it has bit him in the ass more than once.

... I'll bet some of you even masturbate to the news, you perverted pack of treasonous scum ...
Just exactly what I would expect from a scumsucking traitor selling out his country for partisan votes ...I consider such people to be scumsucking, faithless, perverted traitors to the United States and the party that hold more dear than their nation's honor and the hope for a free and democratic world ...TH sucks some scum...Scumsucking, puling, hypocritical traitors to country in order to advance their evil, scumsucking party uber alles ...No words can express the vileness that oozes out of your party of traitors ...You forgot the tooth fairy, scumsucker...your Democratic gang are a self-blinded, scumsucking antipatriotic hypocrites ...




You brighten every room you enter and every life you touch.

Tad - its time for some new material. You're getting to be a real snorefest with the old stuff.

Isn't that right, scumsucker?

You forgot the tooth fairy, scumsucker.

No words can express the vileness that oozes out of your party of traitors ...

Scumsucking, puling, hypocritical traitors to country in order to advance their evil, scumsucking party uber alles

I consider such people to be scumsucking, faithless, perverted traitors to the United States

Just exactly what I would expect from a scumsucking traitor selling out his country for partisan votes ..

Just exactly what I would expect from a scumsucking traitor selling out his country for partisan votes ..

I'll bet some of you even masturbate to the news, you perverted pack of treasonous scum ...

Isn't that right, scumsucker?

Ergo, Democratics are scumsucking traitors to the USA

What despicable cowards and traitors they are!

Scum sucking traitors ... no doubt about that anymore ..

Go suck some more terrorist pole you dupes of defeat!

That would explain the treason and subversive efforts -- you're just too stupid to understand how you (and your ilk) appear to others

Disgusting scumsucking traitors -- not an iota of patriotism in their scurrilous minds

You subversives will go to any lengths to lie about the hated American: Bush; in order to support your terrorist friends in Iraq! Won't you, you faithless traitors?

That is a nationality better suited to you defeatist cowards

your Democratic gang are a self-blinded, scumsucking antipatriotic hypocrites

"Plame did admit she recomended her husband for the fact finding job."

Uhm, no she didn't. The testimony clearly showed that she was approached by someone else in her bureau about the idea and she agreed to act as a go-between. But let's not keep diverting this thread.

"Shame on the administration for letting a person with an ax to grind go on that trip.:

SNIPER

So, a man who was head of Africa on the NSA, a recent former U.S. Ambassador to the region question,, with the contacts in place to get the goods on whether or not Niger sold Yellowcake to Saddam (who already had tons of the stuff and didn't need more) wasn't the best qualified person to go, eh?

That's exactly what's been wrong with the Bush Administration. Appointing people who don't know what they're doing. Brownie at FEMA, countless CPA 'officials' in Iraq fresh out of college who admitted they didn't have a clue, and the list goes on.....

Wow. You cheerleaders for incompetence are amazing !!

Personally, when I suck scum I like a little sugar with it. therefore TAD, I am a sweetscumsucking coward. Scum with sugar just isn't worth sucking.

SNIPER

I should have said Wilson was head of the Africa desk at the National Security Council, not the NSA as I typed in error.

But, according to your reasoning we should have sent a new college grad Bush loyalist who's only qualification was that he was a GOPer who was opposed to Roe vs Wade as the Administration did to head the Iraqi Medical System under Bremmer instead of someone with extensive credentials and contacts in exactly the area we needed info on, eh?

Back on topic

Prayers for the families of these brave men sent into harms way

What an hypocrite you are - repeating the ghoulish effort to count dead soldiers for partisan gain... and then hating those who reply to the constant, anti-patriotic, even treasonous, effort to demean and revile any success in our war against terrorism by stacking the dead.

You are so hopelessly out of touch its embarrassing. Why don't you actually read hard numbers instead of wrapping yourself in the flag? These are the numbers from the guy who says things are going great in Iraq...perhaps you could meet him for lunch?

graphics8.nytimes.com


I consider such people to be scumsucking, faithless, perverted traitors to the United States and the party that hold more dear than their nation's honor and the hope for a free and democratic world ...

You're as bad as Mike Huckabee, more than willing to stack American and Iraqi bodies for your precious "honor". Your pseudo-patriotic chest thumping is revolting. I think you've been watching the movie 300 too much. How many dead bodies are enough for you to feel like you've saved face, jackass?

As far as democracy goes, the White House and US military have already given up on that. So why don't you wake the fuck up? ...or at least get up to speed on your talking points.

www.cnn.com


No, just as long as we stayed in Bosnia ... but you scumsuckers can't wait, can you? You only have patience when it is your war ... a Democratic's war that involves the entire USA...

Posted by tadowe at 2007-09-07 09:10 AM | Reply | Flag


Is it really fair to compare our Balkan policy to that of Iraq? If anything, Iraq is a case-in-point that we learned nothing from our reconstruction/reconciliation in the former Yugoslavia. If you have an opportunity, I'd suggest visiting Croatia, Slovenia, or Bosnia, it's incredible how much has changed in less than a decade.

Yes, we were in Bosnia for several years longer than we are presently in Iraq (IRC, the US contribution to SFOR presently consists only of skeleton bases occupied by KBR contractors only) but for most of those years, we had less than 2,000 troops.

You might as well compare Iraq to Kosovo too. On my second rotation in KFOR, the MNB(E) consisted of only 1,600 US troops and around 500 Polish, Ukranian, Romanian, and Hungarian troops. I may be wrong, but I believe we only have one base left in the entire Balkans (Camp Bondsteel), the rest are occupied KBR and/or are in the process of being dismantled.

I think most of us would be more than happy if we could secure Iraq with < 2,000 US troops.

Hell, if you're going to compare apples-to-oranges, you might as well use our 50+ years in Japan and Germany, and 25+ years in the Sinai, to justify a perpetual occupation of Iraq.

Come September, we should throw out the status quo. Either we decide Iraq is important to our national security, send in 500,000 troops, initiate the draft, and transform into a wartime economy, or we begin to pull out.

TadWOE

I've finally concluded you live in a treehouse in the middle of a Oregon forest far from human civilization. You're so ill informed it's laughable. You must have only owls and bears to talk to and a browser that goes nowhere but Drudge and FreeRepublic.com, with a radio that is stuck on Rush and Hannity.

Do Grape Nuts REALLY taste like wild hickory nuts?

TadWOE

In other words.....you have that 'Ted Kozinski' thing going on. Filling your treehouse with manifestos written on bark?

You're kind of entertaining in a very sick way. Happens when you live so far from humankind your mind talks to itself as the only other conversationalist around. Grunts from bears and hoots from owls are NOT confirmation of your ideas.

But just yesterday Wobbie the Poophoot was touting Anbar as proof of success. I think "refute or shut the fuck up" was his rallying cry.

Wobbie, where are you now? We need your ever so wise guidance!

Robbie is on a 10 Day unpaid "Vacation"

Larryh

Unanimous vote for Petraeus.

2006 election campaign slogan "We will end the war"
2007 slogan "We will end the war eventually"
2007 presidential slogans "We will end the war when it is deemed appropriate"

Who didn't read the NIE?

No names, eh?
My cousin was in Anbar Province last time I heard.
He's a Brigadier General in the Marines, I think they would have mentioned that a general was killed if that was the case.
Incidentally, he's more liberal than me.
RIP

Wobbie's on a 10 day? Who pushed him over the edge?

Robbie is a Natural Dillhole. He does it all by Himself.

Larry

Since Tadwoe is so concerned with cowardly traitors, mayb he should watch this and see a REAL coward and traitor in action:www.youtube.com

Can you say N-E-P-O-T-I-S-M? Can you say, C-O-L-L-U-S-I-O-N to discredit the president by members of the CIA? Can you say, T-R-E-A-S-O-N?

No, because your Democratic gang are a self-blinded, scumsucking antipatriotic hypocrites ...

Posted by tadowe

Tadpole, you have got to be the dumbest bastard on the DR since LastAmerican. I'm sure your IQ is in the single digits. First of all Georgie and his buddy "medal of honor" Tenet were wrong on the yellowcake and second, whatever happened to Georgie's promise to deal severely with the person who outed Valerie Plame? In bushworld, "dealing severely" means P-A-R-D-O-N and I wouldn't be surprised if scooter becomes another "medal of honor" recipient. Keep cheering on incompetence. That's what we truly value as Americans and patriots.

Shame on the administration for letting a person with an ax to grind go on that trip.

Wilson didn't say anything until Bush spouted the yellowcake lie, which now even Bush admits he shouldn't have said, in his SOTU. But it was necessary to do so to sucker America into this war.
Or did you mean, "Shame on the administration for not sending a parroting monkey to go verify everything the Administration claimed"?

I know reality isn't a fiend of the Right, Sniper, but its not going to go away....

Oooooo, we're scared.

A murderer who's afraid to post the word shit.

Danforth - Apparently both the Pacer and the Fairlane were not running today and SOMEBODY was stuck all day in the doublewide with no a/c, a bottle of cheap hootch, and dial-up Internet connection.

Holy shit!

Anyone want to take bets on how long it is before Kierzog gets the perma-slap from Rogers? Have you looked at this guys post history today?

Wow.

Not soon enough.

Hey Tad 9000 !!!

You Are WRONG !!! Plame Was Covert !!!

Update Date Your "Hack Hard-drive" !

Plame was a Covert Agent:

It's official. Valerie Plame was a covert agent at the time her name was leaked by Novak. Will Victoria Toensing issue an apology? And Fred Hiatt should follow her lead.

An unclassified summary of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame's employment history at the spy agency, disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was "covert" when her name became public in July 2003 ... read on

FDL: Ex. Order 12958 -- Hayden's approval of Waxman's statement that Ms. Wilson's status was classified, that she was a covert agent protected under the aforementioned Executive Order ... UPDATE: Larry Johnson: How about them Apples Vicky Toensing? Here's Valerie's statement to Waxman:

While I helped to manage and run secret worldwide operations against this WMD target from CIA headquarters in Washington, I also traveled to foreign countries on secret missions to find vital intelligence.

I loved my career, because I love my country. I was proud of the serious responsibilities entrusted to me as a CIA covert operations officer. And I was dedicated to this work.

It was not common knowledge on the Georgetown cocktail circuit that everyone knew where I worked. But all of my efforts on behalf of the national security of the United States, all of my training, all the value of my years of service, were abruptly ended when my name and identity were exposed irresponsibly

www.crooksandliars.com

Now Either You Make The Update Or I'll Have To Shut Yo Down And You'll Be Singing "Daisy" Wile You Power Down !!

-Sarge

Kierzog?

Taddles off his meds again?

...or has the right simply found themselves a new captain of the debating team?

Be Well.

No, Tad. Petraeous won't exactly lie. He'll groom the truth. That's called prevarication. Mnay hold it's worse than an honest lie.

I believe Patreus will lie, will knowingly misrepresent the truth of what is happening in Iraq. He may rationalize it by thinking that it is the only way to buy enough time to secure the country and he may actually fool himself into thinking that it will actually result in long term success. Bush doesn't allow anyone to disagree with his "vision" and if Patreus is his general of choice then it is because Patreus is willing to say what Bush wants him to say. We have plenty of examples from the past where generals disagreed and were quickly retired.

Danni says, "I believe Patreus will lie ..."

Well, now that that is decided, how long before you would pull out of Iraq and leave its millions to the whims and mercies of Islamic terrorism?

Then, the USA could spend the money on free medical care, so socialism can take over 1/4 of the free market and dictate what, where, how and when you will get your free medical care and assures that they control what substances you take into your body and check regularly to determine.

No need to worry about the privacy of your records, since they will only be available to authorized representatives and organizations of federal, state and local government; as well as sovereign foreign nations under treaty ...

You communist idealists will love the control you have over the population then, eh, al Danni?

"Millions to the whims and mercies of Islamic terrorism...."

If we know anything through experience at this point, al-Qaeda in Iraq is meat. The Iraqis want to handle that one.

If Bush in 2002 had presented plans for an occupation of Iraq lasting generations, all to keep sectarian violence down, there would have been no occupation.

"You communist idealists...."

I'm willing to bet you've never met a communist living in this country. You do meet many, many people you despise for other reasons.

Well, now that that is decided, how long before you would pull out of Iraq and leave its millions to the whims and mercies of Islamic terrorism?

Then, the USA could spend the money on free medical care, so socialism can take over 1/4 of the free market and dictate what, where, how and when you will get your free medical care and assures that they control what substances you take into your body and check regularly to determine.

No need to worry about the privacy of your records, since they will only be available to authorized representatives and organizations of federal, state and local government; as well as sovereign foreign nations under treaty ...

You communist idealists will love the control you have over the population then, eh, al Danni?

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Dude, you really are a disturbed individual. You might want to schedule some time with a professional that can help you.

You just don't get it.... You want very badly to make this whole war in Iraq a Party lines thing.
I say, give up your bullshit card. Patriotism isn't about Party. To be honest with you I really don't like being fucking lied to. That is what we have here a bunch of fucking lies spun over and over again. Screw the Plame thing.... The People of this Nation were misled BOTTOM FUCKING LINE! Everyone knows it. The way I look at things.... IF a Senator voted for this war and dont have good hard evidence that he or she was misled when they voted...... Get the hell out no matter what your party affiliation.
IF you want to continue holding to the belief that this war is completely above board then go into hiding with your thoughts because you are really looking like a dumb ass around here.

""You communist idealists will love the control you have over the population then, eh, al Danni?""

AS if they don't have the ability to see anyone's records anyway, and as if insurance companies wouldn't use any and all information they have about you in any way they want.
Taddie sits at home worrying that Communists will invade his house and take him out and shoot him. He's too paranoid to realize that they like us would never harm him because he is too entertaining as the town loon.

Taddie sits at home worrying that Communists will invade his house and take him out and shoot him. He's too paranoid to realize that they like us would never harm him because he is too entertaining as the town loon.

And you, Danni sit at home and worry about people spying in on your records and insurance companies using all your personal data as they want.

I guess it just goes to show that everyone -- left and right -- have their own version of the bogeyman.

I liked THIS PHOTO of one of our soldiers with some Iraqi children.

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