She is very influential and she is someone people trust (at least to the people who watch her show); could be good news for Obama.

P.S. what are the odds that some idiot tries to turn this into a thread about race?

I implore everyone to ignore the race baiting.

Oprah Winfrey is a black woman from the south.

YYYYEEEEHHHAAAAWWWW!!!!

This has to be somewhat of a scare for Clinton due to Oprah's influence with female voters.

Sorry but Oprah is transparent on this issue.

THE ONLY REASON SHE IS BACKING HIM IS BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

PERIOD, END OF STORY!!!

2112 wins the idiot prize!

Obama/Oprah 08

Sorry Taxman, you know its true!!!

"THE ONLY REASON SHE IS BACKING HIM IS BECAUSE HE IS BLACK."

Southerners only want to vote for Southerners. Most of our voters show blind loyalty to a party.

If this were the case, how would it unusual in this country?

"THE ONLY REASON SHE IS BACKING HIM IS BECAUSE HE IS BLACK."

Yeah sure, and if Condi Rice ran she'd jump right on that bandwagon. I am sure it is a major consideration for her though, and rightly so. Why shouldn't she support a good candidate who would be the first black president?

"I think that what he stands for, what he has proven that he can stand for, what he has shown was worth me going out on a limb for," Ms. Winfrey told Mr. King on Tuesday. "And I haven't done it in the past because I haven't felt that anybody -- I didn't know anybody well enough to be able to say, I believe in this person.'


I think most people voting for Obama, myself included, wholehartedly agree with this statemnt. I have never actively campaigned for anyone until now, but I feel that Obama is exactly what we need in this country in order to change the course of politics for the greater good.

"Why shouldn't she support a good candidate who would be the first black president?"

I'm not saying she shouldnt, matter of fact id do the same thing.

All I am saying is that its OK to make that link in todays PC bullshit world. Call it like it is and let the chips fall where they may.

Taxman,

I respect your supporting Barak Hussain Obama.

Not me.

No way, no how, and its not cuz he's black!

Actually I agree 2112, instead of denying that race plays a part she ought to just come right out and say that is part of her reasoning. Not all but part. If she does deny that it is she'll look foolish and dishonest.

It's cuz his middle name is Hussein, right 2112??

He's probably a terrorist.

2112 please explain further. I would like to know who you support and why. We could actually have a political discourse.

Danni, can you read her mind? Your statement is going to be the typical reply by anyone who supports Hillary and her war mongering, lobbyinst loving machine.

Wonder why...

Oh and shockinly Whoopi is defending Michael Vick... Who saw that one coming!?

Yep, the obtuse will just focus on race and not merits.

Typical.

Just another step to allowing the media to be deluded and controlled by the political government.

Oprah has never campaigned for any candidate prior to a blackman running. """NEVER"""

DO THE MATH!!!!!

Winfrey said, "it's no small thing for me. . . . I'm really not a political person. I believe that he offers a fresh opportunity of hope for America. So that's why I'm in it. I probably won't ever be in it again."


Merits bitches, merits.

Taxman has Oprah ever campaigned for a presidential candidate before?

I wonder how much Obama is paying Oprah behind the scenes.

"Obama is paying Oprah"

Coals to Newcastle.

Taxman has Oprah ever campaigned for a presidential candidate before?

Nope because no one has ever offered a fesh opportunity for hope in America, she said it herself.

What is funny is that instead of arguing merits and refuting what Oprah has to say, the ignorant will focus on the color of her skin and simply disregard what she has to say.

Wow moneywar and Rob on the same side, that doesn't happen to often.

Winfrey said, "it's no small thing for me. . . . I'm really not a political person. I believe that he offers a fresh opportunity of hope for America. So that's why I'm in it. I probably won't ever be in it again."

Merits bitches, merits.

Posted by taxman at 2007-09-05 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag

Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!!

I suppose you believe everything Bush offers out there?

Are you comparing Oprah to Bush Money?

""Danni, can you read her mind?""

I really don't get your question.
You think that I should pretend I don't think race does play a part in her decision???
That would be pretty foolish.
It does. I don't care. Were I her, I'd do exactly the same thing. Also, for all we know Hillary's position on lobbyists could play a part in her decision, I know it does mine.

Danni,
"It's cuz his middle name is Hussein, right 2112??
He's probably a terrorist."

You bring up a thoughtful point Danni. Wonder why they never use his first and middle name?? Hmmmmmmmmmm, let me guess.

Taxman,

I am supporting Michael Savage for President. Hopefully he runs.
I like his platform.
Borders
Language
Culture

BTW, outside of Iraq, I think lobbying, or rather ending lobbying is THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE around today. It is the key to so much of what is wrong on so many other issues. The future of America depends on someone FINALLY throwing the lobbyists out of Washington, ending the practice of government employees becoming lobbyists, etc.
It's just plain corruption right out in the open.
They laugh in our faces every day as they get our legislators to work against our best interests.

I am supporting Michael Savage for President.

And when he doesn't run?

""Wonder why they never use his first and middle name??""

Oh they use it plenty over on Faux News.

BTW, outside of Iraq, I think lobbying, or rather ending lobbying is THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE around today.

Well then you CANNOT vote for Hillary in the primaries then if it is that important to you.

This has to be somewhat of a scare for Clinton due to Oprah's influence with female voters.

Posted by taxman

Very true. Smart move on his part.

Very true. Smart move on his part.

NO, just dumb luck!

TAXMAN,

First, I detest the idea that a TV host is even allowed to endorse a political figure, it violates everything the media stands for in our constitutional protection ideas.

Second, she has never ever voiced her opinion for a candidate before a Blackman shows up on the scene. If you are unable to do the man, not my problem.

I do however call a spade a spade when it is clear that is the case.

Money, are scared of a black president?

Very true. Smart move on his part.

It is a product of running a positive campaing for change. We all know that Oprah is not going to back a republican and I think she has always made that known. It is enlightening to see that someone can motivate her to actively campaign for them.

Are you comparing Oprah to Bush Money?

I know you understood the point.

I will now always classify Oprah with questionable intentions and slanted truths.

Oprah threw herself into the political bog of liars and thieves. Oprah has now lost credibility on a major scale.

TAXMAN you bring up a sore topic. Florida changed our primary date and Howard Dean, yes my beloved Howard Dean, is now going to ignore Florida's vote in the primaries and probably not seat the Florida delegation at the convention. At least that's how I understand it right now. All the candidates except Kucinich have agreed not to campaign here either. I have already emailed the Party and told them not to call me for any more donations nor to expect Floridians to necessarily vote Democrat. They have really pissed off a lot of Florida Dems. Now I hear Michigan is going to do the same thing and will probably get the same treatment. The Democratic Party is out of its fucking mind and will, as many predict, pull defeat out of the jaws of victory....AGAIN!
Oh, and I've decided I won't vote for Hillary in the primary anyway.
Kucinich #1
Edwards #2
Obama #3
Hillary is at the bottom just above Rudy.

Danni, I can understand what the dems are doing. Why does every state feel it is necessary to move up their primaries?

I will now always classify Oprah with questionable intentions and slanted truths.

Why?

First, I detest the idea that a TV host is even allowed to endorse a political figure, it violates everything the media stands for in our constitutional protection ideas.

Second, she has never ever voiced her opinion for a candidate before a Blackman shows up on the scene. If you are unable to do the man, not my problem.

I do however call a spade a spade when it is clear that is the case.

Posted by moneywar at 2007-09-05 12:44 PM | Reply


Why Moneywar did they lose their American Citizenship the day they become part of Television Employment?? Oprah is first and Foremost an American then the rest. I don't understand Your ire towards Her.

Larry

He has NO qualifications.!!!

Money, are scared of a black president?

Sorry, but this has nothing to do with a Black President, no matter how far you try and make that stretch.

And the fact that you would bring up such an issue would lead me to classify you in the category of GZ and antisemiting.

TAX are you afraid of a white president?

Nope because no one has ever offered a fesh opportunity for hope in America, she said it herself.

You honestly believe that is the reason? She has never campaigned for a President before, there has never been a viable Black candidate before... Are you honestly saying that her race, and Obama's race has NOTHING to do with it?

What is funny is that instead of arguing merits and refuting what Oprah has to say, the ignorant will focus on the color of her skin and simply disregard what she has to say.

Posted by taxman


She's not saying anything different than any other supporter. Why can't they both be the reason? I don't think anyone would think any less of her if she said all that stuff, and then added that she would like to see a Black man in office as well... Everyone already knows that's why she's supporting him, to not say it is pretty frustrating.

TAXMAN the Dems need to realize that the decision to move the date was made by our Republican controlled legislature and that the bill also contained the requirement for a paper trail on Florida elections. The Democrats of Florida had no choice on the matter but the party is pissing us off. Tell me, why do other smaller states believe they have a God given right to hold the early primaries. Why is Iowa so special???
There really ought to be one day for all primaries just like election day.

Larry,

My ire is we are now embarking down a path of media power blitzes with popular hosts being paid by the highest political figure to support their compaign.

Second, does your company allow you to campaign for an individual at work?

The media is supposed to be our protection and information source to people like Obama, not in bed with them.

Everyone already knows that's why she's supporting him

I don't think that is why she is supporting him and I don't think she has a reason to lie. As stated, her reason for voting for him is that he brings a fresh opportunity for hope in America. And like I said earlier, I think Obama has the same effect on many people, like myself. I have never actively campaigned for anyone or worn my political affiliations on my sleeve, but Obama does something to some people and makes them believe we can change politics as we know them.

You know what is funny is at one point Obama isn't black enough but when a black person endorses him they are only backing him because he is black.

Money the only reason I ask is because you seemed to focus on race in many of your posts. I am not calling you a racist, I just wanted to give you a chance to clarify your position.

Those who question the validity of Oprah's endorsement have watched for years and years as right wing religious leaders have supported Republican candidates. A television personality has just as much right and doesn't have to worry about their tax exempt status.

Second, does your company allow you to campaign for an individual at work?

Mine does, I have Obama paraphernalia all over my office.

There really ought to be one day for all primaries just like election day.

I could go for that, or a rotating schedule.

the last and least consideration in castin my vote would be who oprah endorses-----i probably am as qualified to tell you who to vote for as someone who is and will be filthy rich no matter who is in office-she got no kids in school no problems in her hood(she don't live in a thugacracy as many of us do)she jus gets more for runnin her mouth than i do
jasman

Money the only reason I ask is because you seemed to focus on race in many of your posts. I am not calling you a racist, I just wanted to give you a chance to clarify your position.

Now I have to thank you. I will now put you into the GZ idiocy class of race baiting puke.

There is nothing in my postings ever that would suggest I am racist. In fact, if you took the time to look at my history it is the opposite.

TAXMAN HAS NOW TAKEN ON THE POSITION OF RACE BAITING FOR OBAMA-----------IF YOU ARE NOT FOR HIM YOU ARE A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!

The media is supposed to be our protection and information source to people like Obama, not in bed with them.

Oprah is NOT the media, she is a television star expressing her own personal opinion, as is the right of every American. Obama's color isn't the issue here, his POLITICS ARE! That so many cannot divorce themselves from the ignorant thinking that blacks can only back black candidates, need I mention the current fact that Hillary still outpolls Obama in the black communities across America?

Its insulting in this day and age that seemingly intelligent people cannot see beyond Hornsby's "light on the color bar" over an issue of such vital importance to all Americans, regardless of their nationality or ethnicity.

Does any other candidate espouse the exact same take on issues that Obama does? Does any other candidate have the personal background of Obama, which includes the fact he's 50% WHITE, hardly a "black" man at all, if genetics is taken into consideration? Does this mean that Oprah waited until a multi-racial American, who happens to represent her as an elected US Senator, decided to run for President before she publically announced her support, or does she only support the "black 50%" of Obama's lineage?

Does anyone else see how demeaning and backwards such lines of illogic are when they dare raise their face to the light of truth and reality? Can't the man's ability and vision for our future mean more to his supporters than the color of his skin?

VOTE FOR OBAMA...............or............f
orever be..................a.........
............................."
""""""""RACIST!!!!!""""""""""

JASMAN you probably wouldn't be voting Democrat no matter who endorsed the candidate but there are millions of less informed people who do listen to various "advisors" and decide who to vote for based on who endorses who. Oprah will have a considerable impact and it's my opinion that she is just as valid of a "pundit" as are any of the pundits on the other channels. Why is Sean Hannity allowed to endorse but not Oprah???

There is nothing in my postings ever that would suggest I am racist. In fact, if you took the time to look at my history it is the opposite.

Money, again I never said you are/were a racist; you are being disingenious here is your statement:

she has never ever voiced her opinion for a candidate before a Blackman shows up on the scene

and another:

Oprah has never campaigned for any candidate prior to a blackman running. """NEVER"""

DO THE MATH!!!!!


P.S. I am not black

Also Money I know you posting history and that is why I was a little shocked that you were focusing on Oprahs race rather than the merits. That is why I asked the question. I don't care if you don't want to vote for Obama, that is your decision, but I will contest your assertion that the only reason Oprah is voting for Obama is because he is black.

Your twisting of my words and putting words in my mouth in order to make you look like a victim is quite pathetic. I expect more from you.

There is nothing in my postings ever that would suggest I am racist. In fact, if you took the time to look at my history it is the opposite.

Oprah has never campaigned for any candidate prior to a blackman running. """NEVER"""

DO THE MATH!!!!!

Posted by moneywar

First off, Oprah isn't "campaigning" for anyone. She's decided to back Obama candidacy, nothing more. You are basing your conclusion on nothing but what you perceive to be a racial conclusion that someone you don't know made about a candidate you don't support. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, your rant was overtly prejudiced by information you're nakedly guessing about, without one single shread of evidence other than your opinion of facts in evidence.

What if I said that the Osmonds publically announced their support for Romney. Would that immediately signal to you that Mormonism HAD to be the determinant factor in their decision? Funny, I've never heard anyone accused of backing a particular candidate soley because they were white...but then again, up until now, every single one with a realistic chance of winning WAS white, weren't they?

I'm sure Oprah became a billionaire because she always blindly supported blacks regardless of what they advocated. Yeah, we're kind of dumb like that, aren't we? What an insidious allegation to make and then act as though you didn't play the race card yourself, right from the top of the deck!

Well Dr. Phil is black. She only supported him because of his race.

Your twisting of my words and putting words in my mouth in order to make you look like a victim is quite pathetic. I expect more from you.

That's rich!!!!!!!

I think you better go back through the posting and actually read the answer to content of the posts and see who is being hypocritical here.

The underlying tone of your message is quite clear, you like obama and anyone who does not agree with you and questions the support must be """"""""RACIST"""""""" I get that!!!!

The underlying tone of your message is quite clear

My post are quite clear, Oprah is backing Obama on merits and not based on the color of his skin. You are the one who focused on race in your posts. The fact that you read something into my posts that clearly isn't there is a problem on your end, not mine.

"The underlying tone of your message is quite clear, you like obama and anyone who does not agree with you and questions the support must be """"""""RACIST"""""""" I get that!"

It seems just the opposite to me. Several people claimed Oprah is only backing Obama because he's black. A bit of a racist assumption, I'd say.

Tony, what affect, if any, do you think this has on Hillary's campaign?

before a Blackman shows up

Money capitalized blackman. That, in itself, proves he's not racist. On the other hand, if he had capitalized coon, jigaboo or porch monkey, it wouldn't have been appropriate. Then you could say Money is racist. Thank you.

one more reason not to vote for the man.

Corky, can you post a link to Oprah's open endorsement of Vick's conduct? I don't think I have seen that one yet. I know about Whoopi but not Oprah.

Maybe if I looked, Tax.

But, as you are fond of saying, it's only a joke.

Whoopi? My bad.

They look alike to me.

(It's a joke, son!- Foghorn Leghorn)

So you are you try to diminish Oprah's endorsement of Obama by trying to bring Vick into the discussion?

Tony, what affect, if any, do you think this has on Hillary's campaign?

Very little right now. Nothing is going to eat into Hillary's lead except time and the truth, both of which work at their own pace. Her narrative of competence and responsibility is belied by her own voting record, if anyone would bother to actually look at it and point this out to the public.

In my already spoken opinions, Hillary will see an erosion of her black support as the primaries near because Obama was on the right side of the war from the beginning and Hillary wasn't. Secondly, there is the growing rumble from the local Democratic activists that already know her name at the top of the ticket may lead to downticket losses that wouldn't occur without the baggage her polarization of the electorate brings into the electoral equations. Hillary winning the White House, but Republicans holding or gaining in Congress is NOT the type of deal the Democrats are looking for in the 08 elections.

(It's a joke, son!- Foghorn Leghorn)

"I say, that Corky's about as sharp as a bow-lin' bawl...."

Her narrative of competence and responsibility is belied by her own voting record, if anyone would bother to actually look at it and point this out to the public.

Maybe Oprah can help by shedding some light in this arena.

The media is supposed to be our protection and information source to people like Obama, not in bed with them.

----

Since when is Oprah a source for unbiased journalism? Hint: She promoted "The Secret".

Corky your so full of shit your eyes are brown. It's a known fact she 1) loves her dogs like they were her children and 2) gives money to help Dogs and Cats (Tony LaRussa charity comes to mind). "Oh I can't find the link, why don't you look for it". Corky likes to tap his feet in the stall of public bathrooms. Oh just find the link....

Chill,

Chill.

Why does Oprah hate dogs so much?

For the most part Oprah's viewers are stay at home moms and the unemployed. Hillary's in trouble and that's a good thing.

danni
only one endorsment counts in my house and thats mine-why bother to vote if the reason you votr is cause someone who you don't know says rhis canidate is cool--as far as how i vote in local elections i vote both parties but on a national level i'm more to the right-as in what's right or wrong as i see it
jasman

THE ONLY REASON SHE IS BACKING HIM IS BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

PERIOD, END OF STORY!!!

...Screeched 2112.

2112 wins the idiot prize! notes Tax

And that was before he chimed in with Michael Savage for President nonsense.

Wotta tool.

Who's gonna be his veep there 2112, Malkin or Coulter?

Wot happened to you 2112? You used to be cool, man!

And Money if ya'd actually back up yer assertion that you would never vote for Obama with a single reason that didn't involve race it might make yer claims of not being a racist somewot more believable.

Seriously, wot the fuck was that?

When you were off on yer "Vote the Dems out cos they won't impeach Bush" rant every second post fer a bit Spud didn't say much cos Spud just thought you'd temporarily lost yer mind but this time it's worse.

Oprah has never campaigned for any candidate prior to a blackman running. """NEVER"""

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have both made the run fer the nod. This isn't the first time a black man ever ran fer prez, ya know.

Yes, they're both black.

They are also both liberal and live in Chicago and go to the same church.

Maybe Oprah's "only" supporting him cos he's a Chicagoan or a Christian?

Yer upset that somebody on teevee should have an opinion politically?

Guess Bill O'Reilly must really piss you off then.

Kucinich has better ideas but Obama is really America's last best chance to repair the massive amounts of damage caused by the reckless, greedy, corrupt admin of Mad King George II.

Obama '08.

Be Well.

Kucinich isn't black enough.

Kucinich isn't black enough.

Posted by danni at 2007-09-05 03:12 PM |


Please define "black enough". Ty.

And Money if ya'd actually back up yer assertion that you would never vote for Obama with a single reason that didn't involve race it might make yer claims of not being a racist somewot more believable.

First, who says I am not voting for Obama???????????

I am shaking my head at how so many are pushing agendas without any thought as to reasoning but it is their candidate.

I have addressed this subject and it is not OBAMA but afraid yu'all missed that part.

Comparing O'reilly who is political editorial news show to Oprah talk show host is quite beneath you and am shocked you would even take such a position. I don't need to explain the differences because I know you know the differences.

Jackson and sharpton don't have a snow ball chance of ever making a serious probable run for presidency but see you can't seem to distinguish such a difference.

"Please define "black enough".

Just a joke.

Guess Bill O'Reilly must really piss you off then.

I don't listen or watch O'Reilly, nothing but a convoluted slanted political host projecting situations to get up ones ire. Truth of the matter is not in his interest. Waste of time.

Kucinich has better ideas but Obama is really America's last best chance to repair the massive amounts of damage caused by the reckless, greedy, corrupt admin of Mad King George II.

I agree about Kucinich, best candidate by far, but the main stream media does not like him. It is a Corporate thing.

Obama or Edwards will be our next President, I have not yet decided which I will vote for.

Money, glad to see you have calmed down. What was that all about?

Seriously, wot the fuck was that?

I find it interesting, I basically say OPRAH endorses Obama because he is black and I am attacked by yu'all defending Oprah but attacking me because you think I dislike Obama.

Seriously, wot the fuck was that????

I didn't attack you because I didn't think you liked Obama, I didn't like the fact that you think that Oprah is endorsing Obama is because they are both black. Like I have stated over and over on this thread, it is about merits not about race.

Money, glad to see you have calmed down. What was that all about?

It was about you suggesting I am a racist for calling Oprah out for how I see it. You used Obama as the tool, not Oprah and I found that quite distastefull.

The one thing that will kill Obama is anyone using the race/racial card for or against him.

Believe it or not,

"If you don't vote for OBAMA you're a RACIST" will end any hope for Obama. I kind of think this is common sense but I could be wrong.

I don't like the direction this media is going and thought more of Oprah than I do now. Oprah has entered the bull shit liars organization and will now only take her for 1/4 truths. She has done this to herself by pushing her name into the political mix.

Maybe Oprah is bored just being a talk show host and Lord knows she has enough money. Maybe politics is where she sees herself in the future.
A "kingmaker," so to speak.

It was about you suggesting I am a racist for calling Oprah out for how I see it. You used Obama as the tool, not Oprah and I found that quite distastefull

I never did any such thing and by looking at the responses of other posters, it is clear I didn't.

First, who says I am not voting for Obama???????????

Spud's bad. 2112 claimed he would never vote fer Obama not you.

Jackson and Sharpton don't have a snow ball's chance of ever making a serious probable run for presidency but see you can't seem to distinguish such a difference.

Saying Oprah endorses Obama solely because he's black is stOOpid and beneath you, $W.

You seem to haff a problem with somebody with a talk show having a political opinion.

Is she only supposed to stick to muffin recipes and having Tom Cruise on or sommat?

Talk Shows aint like op/ed shows it's true.

But Oprah aint gonna turn her show into continual commercial fer the man. She's got an opinion and like anyone she's entitled to it.

Or is this the typical "a senator doesn't have the experience to be POTUS argument" again?

"Experience" in DC in code talk fer "corporate corruption".

By that standard Obama doesn't haff a lot of "experience" unlike most of the other candidates.

That's a good thing.

Spud's not saying that race wasn't a factor in Oprah's decision here.

It prolly was but it wasn't the only factor nor was it the most important factor fer Oprah.

Oprah doesn't support Obama cos he's the best black candidate.

Oprah supports him because he's the best candidate period.

...and also because after the machinations of the corrupt BushCo regime a serious and steady hand will be needed to pull the country from the hole that Dumbya has dug here.

That's why Spud supports him too.

Obama '08.

Be Well.

Like I have stated over and over on this thread, it is about merits not about race.

For you and I yes.

Oprah, I don't believe that to be the case, sorry but like I said, I call em as I see em.

In the end, Obama is just another politician, not this once in generation Country moving leader. Oprah would have to believe Obama is just that to make such a move.

Obama may have helped himself but Oprah may have hurt herself.

I for one will look upon her differently.

Kucinich isn't black enough.

Ha! FF fer Danni.

Please define "black enough". Ty

Please define "Didn't get the joke"

Oh... you just did.

Unintentional FF fer Inkydinkydoo

Be Well.

Spud's not saying that race wasn't a factor in Oprah's decision here.

It prolly was but it wasn't the only factor nor was it the most important factor fer Oprah.

I partially agree with you here, but I would say it was the deciding factor. I say this because in the 25 years of her show she stayed neutral in her support voice.

I sit in wonder why no one else sees this as a unwritten violation of media objectivity.

Well, at least now Oprah will only expose the Republican house issues.

I could careless about Obama's experience, it doesn't mean shit when talking about our Presidency.

I am looking for leaders, individuals who can and will actually lead this country back to a proper perspective of the people.

Character
Charisma
conviction
Communicator
Competent
Common sense
Courage
Creative
Curiosity

I am looking for individuals who actually see and understand what the majority of America is seeing.

I am looking for individuals to stand up for the minority even when the political will of the masses will get angry.

Don't try, do!

Don't listen to how it is being said, listen to what is actually being said.

"If you don't vote for OBAMA you're a RACIST"

If you don't vote fer Obama purely because he is black then you are a racist.

Not everyone who is anti-Obama is a racist.

But a lot of racists are anti-Obama.

That's undeniable.

I agree about Kucinich, best candidate by far, but the main stream media does not like him. It is a Corporate thing.

Agreed. Kucinich has the best policies and is tyhe best "pure" liberal, so to speak, but the MSM (It is a corporate thing aint it?) continually give him short shrift, dismiss him or ignore him. In fact, they're doing the exact same thing to Ron Paul on the other side of the fence.

Spud's finding all this MSM bias to be both instructive and maddening simultaneously.

Obama or Edwards will be our next President, I have not yet decided which I will vote for.

Edwards has a certain credibility with Spud.

The way the right have tried to make him out to be one massive hypocrite just cos he dares to use the "P" word in the marbled halls of DC while not actually being poor himself makes him look good in Spud's eyes.

Also Elizabeth is pretty cool.

But mostly it's about the policies with Edwards.

One things fer certain the next POTUS had better have a better than passing familiarity with Laws of the US of A, especially the Constitution.

Obama and Edwards both fit the bill there.

Dumbya never did.

Be Well.

I think our first black president will be annoyed with Oprah for endorsing Obama.
But he'll be funny about it.

Curiosity
conviction


Larry Craig's your man!

I have another "C" word for him as well.

obamanation is a meritless twit! i could care less if he's half and half - he could be purple for all i care - he's not the twit to run this country - there are better twits out there!

btw - obama's mama is a white chick.

"He has NO qualifications.!!!"

Versus the eminently qualified trio of Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld.

there are better twits out there!

Name one????? Just one who is running, name please????

""btw - obama's mama is a white chick.""

So was our first black president's mama.

""btw - obama's mama is a white chick.""

So was our first black president's mama.

I knew Oprah dumping Steadman had some background noise....she wants to be the Obama mama

danni - that beared repeating~!

Ho hum. It's all about race.

Ms Oprah and Mr. Obama are both members of the same racist black separatist church in Chicago. She supports a fellow member of her congregation, who also shares many of their previously muted racist views with their racist Pastor.

Does anyone deny that the church is a separatist racist church that preaches a preference for blacks? The facts are available.

Just the expressed racist views we need in a President of the United States.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

"Does anyone deny that the church is a separatist racist church that preaches a preference for blacks?"

I'm not saying that's not the case, but you should probably post links and quotes for a claim like that.

Sshhh.... Let Ophrah get burnt. Celebrities have riches and influence, but they overestimate themselves.

Let her go ahead and eat some humble pie later. Good for the brain.

I'd like a definition of "black separatist" from either Johnson or Takitez, just for kicks.

"Let her go ahead and eat some humble pie later. Good for the brain."

And had she endorsed your favorite Republican, you'd be stumbing over yourself singing her praises.

Oprah: Harpo Studios where she films her show in Chicago
Obama: Illinois Senator who's principal residence is Chicago

Both people who have used their influence to make the world a better place? Absolutely

Both people who rose from humble beginnings to make something of themselves? Absolutely

They have a lot more in common beside the same color.

By the way, Johnson's rant about Obama belonging to a racist church is baloney. Obama is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ, which is the American equilivent of the Church of England (or Anglican).

""Ms Oprah and Mr. Obama are both members of the same racist black separatist church in Chicago.""

Just wonder which of the hate pundits put that non-fact in your non-brain.

Obama has gone before AIPAC. Nuff said.

Clinton has gone before AIPAC. Ditto.

Because of this, neither one of these candidates get my vote or support in any way.
IF you need proof of their pandering to AIPAC, go to www.antiwar.com

There are two articles at the top speaking of this very thing, and many more by Justin Raimondo.

Have a nice day.

I have NO DOUBT that race isnt playing a part in this and if the rest of you were really honest about it you would admit that. but I dont think that its all that bad of a thing though because it makes sense......UNLESS you are talking about obama and oprah trying to form some sort of bond with poor people...thats the stupid part.

but when it comes to race, its too bad that all sides cant be more like the 70's...........I am watching an all in the family episode where lionel leaves home because george doesnt like it that lionels' father in law is white......

and they are all over the rascists issue and its funny as hell......but today could they air this?
I doubt it unless it was produced by flaming liberal like this one was......

it is a scream.........and the thing is.......at least they show rascism from both sides.......(jefferson and bunker)......

example..

wheezy.........you know george that a black man with no education is last on the list.

jefferson........not he's not.....puerto ricans are last on the list...

bunker......he's right louise.....they are last on the list cause they cant read the list.....

now do any of you really think in this day and age of short tempers and intolerance that a show could have said this ....AND WORSE......

Many of Fred Sanford shows have been editted because He uttered the Nigger word. Imagine that. I guess instead of Progressing we are regressing in our sensibilities.

Larry

OOPS....meant to add..

when I am playing great lakes downs and a horse is taking the lead coming out of the turn I say this line and the same thing applies now to the presidential race after leno last night...

THIS RACE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!

so you see, this endorsement really doesnt matter anyway......

of course remember this the next time someone attacks hannity for supporting or even talking good about rudy.....

you cant have it both ways like you want it......those days are long gone.

"By the way, Johnson's rant about Obama belonging to a racist church is baloney. Obama is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ, which is the American equilivent of the Church of England (or Anglican)."

No, the Episcopal Church is the American branch of the Anglican faith.

The UCC is a generally progressive denomination. Trinity is not a "racist" church, although its pastor Jeremiah Wright does hold some controversial views. Obama has said publicly he doesn't agree with everything he says.

agreed larry...........and the thing is with bunker........it was never a case of us thinking that he was some sort of rascist hero for using those names and all..........he was almost always seen as intolerant and downright wrong even while being funny as hell............and even with jefferson.......we all saw just how silly those preujudice's are..............and we laughed our ass off..........remember the sammy davis JR episode..........

and another part of the episode..

lionel is going to stay on the bunker couch.....archie says.....
edith.....my pinochle guys are coming over and the only spade they want to see is in the deck..

just imagine the outrage if that came out today........

just imagine the outrage if that came out today........

Posted by bushlovertwo

Remember Don Rickles? In character, he insulted everybody equally. Today? You have Chris Rock and Carlos Mencia pushing that envelope. Yeah it makes people squirm but most people are laughing their asses off.

""btw - obama's mama is a white chick.""

So was our first black president's mama.

And who would that be????

Many of Fred Sanford shows have been editted because He uttered the Nigger word. Imagine that. I guess instead of Progressing we are regressing in our sensibilities.

Larry

Posted by LarryMohr at 2007-09-06 09:56 AM

As long as they don't edit his insults to Esther.
What about Speedy Gonzalez cartoons, some old Bugs Bunny episodes with a Sambo boy. I am sure Foghorn Leghorn is on some list.

SanAntonio

Right you are. I had to wrack my brain there on that one. I recalled a pastor of a UCC church I attended as a teenager telling me something about it being affiliated with the Church of England.

redman - hint: rhymes with clinton - duh!