yeah, yeah, yeah Mr. Olbermann... I'd say go back to Sports Center, but after seeing you on MNF the other night, you suck at that now too...

Olbermann is the biggest crybaby hypocrite on the face of the planet. I swear he's going to break down and cry half the time.

His Fox obsession is perhaps my biggest pet peeve. He cries and cries about Fox nearly every segment. For the first time I can recall he didn't have somebody from Fox listed as his worst person in the world.

He continually claims Fox has an NBC fetish while tripping over himself mentioning Fox.

To deny he is as rabidly left as Hannity is to the right would be impossible.

Pretty predictable comments. Why even bother???
We knew y'all's opnion before you posted.
Mine too.
So I limit my comments to just criticizing others' posts.

yeah, yeah, yeah Mr. Olbermann... I'd say go back to Sports Center, but after seeing you on MNF the other night, you suck at that now too...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Sorry guys, but your schtick is old and now irrelevant. Ad hominem attacks against the messenger will only serve as deflections for those whose heads are as far up Bush's ass as your are.

Olbermann is right - Bush's comment was unspeakable, and reveals what a slimeball he truly is. "Playing for time" with the lives of AMerican troops just so he can lock in support for the continued war. War for war's sake?

Defend that, and you are truly as shameless as you often appear to be.

Olbermann doesn't pretend to be dispassionate, neutral, unbiased. His program is more like a newspaper column that's dedicated to presenting a potpouri of material. Sometimes he drags on too much about Faux "News," but, then, it's his program. My television has an on-off option that comes with it, and even a way of changing channels.

On Bush playing us: he's ball-on accurate.

Pretty predictable comments. Why even bother???

did you see his commentary on vick and dog fighting in his debut? I don't know why the NFL is continually trying to put pundits into football. It failed with Miller, failed even worse with Limbaugh, and I hope to god if fails for Olbermann... People watch football to have fun and watch their team, not hear some whiny commentary for a man selling his soul to hopefully get half of Greta Van Susteran's ratings.

Olbermann doesn't pretend to be dispassionate, neutral, unbiased.

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2007-09-05 09:59 AM | Reply


And Hannity does?
Surely you suggest to the people (lefty loonies) that cry all day around here about Fox News, Rush limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity to change the channel right...

Olbermann's show can be mldly entertaining because of some of the humorous segments, that's why I watch it. A little balance would make it much more entertaining though. The same exact "experts" every night gets old.

Speaking of Vick, have you heard Whoopie Goldberg's take on The View???

She seems to think dog fighting is just part of life in the South and part of his "cultural upbringing."
Personally, I've been pretty ambivalent about her (I think she is a bit of a racist) but now I truely dislike her.

Sorry guys, but your schtick is old and now irrelevant. Ad hominem attacks against the messenger will only serve as deflections for those whose heads are as far up Bush's ass as your are.

Uh huh.... and how often do you libbies actually address Bill O'Reilly's rants, or Limbaughs, or Hannity's.

I didn't hear the quote by Bush, and I certainly didn't read or hear the speech, so I don't know what he really said. One thing is for damn sure, is that I'm not going to take Olbermann's word for it because he is a far left wing liberal, and he has an agenda.

If I don't listen to Limbaugh, Hannity or O'Reilly, I'm sure as fuck not going to listen to this hack douchebag...

Speaking of Vick, have you heard Whoopie Goldberg's take on The View???

She seems to think dog fighting is just part of life in the South and part of his "cultural upbringing."
Personally, I've been pretty ambivalent about her (I think she is a bit of a racist) but now I truely dislike her.

Posted by danni a


I heard Opie & Anthony playing it today... I was still half asleep but that nonsense woke me right up... I lived in Georgia for a year in High School, and then in Tallahassee for 4 years. All but one of my room mates were poor deep southern Black guys and they never mentioned dog fighting once...

I will never understand the need to defend Vick... I mean he plead guilty, even he won't defend himself.

Olbermann's rant on the subject was a little confusing, he was almost trying to make Vick sound like a victim...

Politics + Football = Buzzkill

Rob, everyone has an agenda.

101, if people want to discuss/argue the point(s) raised by an Olbermann, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc., that makes sense. To immediately start in on the messenger, ignoring the message, seems unproductive to me.

Spot on 101.

"They (General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker) tell me if the kind of success we are now seeing continues

Yup, the bloodiest summer of the war and the Prez havin' to sneak into a desert air base in the middle of the night are sure signs that the surge is werkin' hard.
At least to the kool-aid guzzlers like BowaLT101.

"I didn't hear the quote by Bush, and I certainly didn't read or hear the speech, so I don't know what he really said."

"I'm playing for October-November," Mr. Bush said to Draper. That, evidently, is the time during which, he thinks he can sell us the real plan, which is "to get us in a position where the presidential candidates will be comfortable about sustaining a presence."

Comfortable, that is, with saying about Iraq, again quoting the President, "stay... longer."

Yeah?

Bush telling Draper that he plans to make money by making speeches like his dad and Bill Clinton outraged some folks but it made me laugh.
The idea that someone would pay 50-75K to hear the idiot speak is hilarious and will speak volumes about the IQ of those who pay and pretend to listen. Why don't they just give him the money and not have to pretend that he is intelligent??

101, if people want to discuss/argue the point(s) raised by an Olbermann, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc., that makes sense. To immediately start in on the messenger, ignoring the message, seems unproductive to me.

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2007-09-05 10:13 AM | Reply


Olbermann raises points alright, talking points. I would no sooner believe him than I would Hannity because they do the same thing...Present some half truth or present one person's POV or claim and pretend as though it's factual.

This whole website is unproductive. If it wasn't would you be creating secondary handles?

"Comfortable, that is, with saying about Iraq, again quoting the President, "stay... longer."

Yeah?

Posted by evashogouki"

Well, with only 4500 Iraqi troops (down from 10,000) considered ready to act on their own in a country of 27,000,000, no political progress, and Baghdad residents still living in fear, it's hard to see how any rational person from either party can see how this will ever end well.

I didn't hear the quote by Bush, and I certainly didn't read or hear the speech, so I don't know what he really said. One thing is for damn sure, is that I'm not going to take Olbermann's word for it because he is a far left wing liberal, and he has an agenda.


You guys are so full of crap it is sickening. How much time did you spend trying to find the quote and reading it for yourself? You just "choose not to believe" it instaed of chceking it out, or you admit you haven';t read it, but proceed to dismiss it anyway.

Can you spell i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t?

For now, Bush told Draper in a later interview, "I'm playing for October-November." "To get us in a position where the presidential candidates will be comfortable about sustaining a presence" there and, he said later, "stay longer."

On Bush playing us: he's ball-on accurate.

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Never done by another president?

"Never done by another president?"

So let me get this straight: you're trolling for a deflection?

""Never done by another president?""

Absolutely, Nixon used the lure of bringing our troops home from Vietnam to win the election....twice.

Fool me once shame on you
Fool me twice you must be Tricky Dick.

This is a hoot. Not one of posts attacking Olbermann even attempts to refute what Bush has said because they don't seem to know what he said.

"Why wasn't I informed?"

DOC that's because the talking points haven't been posted yet.

101,
You have described yourself in describing Olberman.
Talking points and half truths designed to support your POV.
If it's OK for you, Bowa,Lokisfur,and Bush, why do you think it is wrong when others bitch slap you with their POV?
You are what we called in the millitary '6th street',
one way goin the wrong way.

True, Danni. Very quiet on the WH front. They have to have known this was going to happen, since Draper didn't channel Bush but interviewed him numerous times. I think it was on Chris Matthews' program last night that Howard Fineman of "Newsweek" suggested they didn't care about anything other than getting the first version of "history" out and about.

Watch this.

Hey 101, SLAP!!!!

Review point c.

know-nothing

Olbermann stands unrefuted while the children play?

Priceless.

He's jealous cause Bush is beating him at his own game.

Playing the public!

but but but Olbermann has an illegitimate black baby.

I don't have a tv show that lemmings like yourself buy into hook, line, and sinker


Nice dodge. Of course he will never see the humor in it with his need to defend Bush against every single thing - including Bush's own words.

We are talking about a Bush QUOTE, chair-man.

Maybe you will EVENTUALLY say somehting about the actual issue being described.

Olbermann is indeed a Bush critic. But he gets the FACTS of the case right. You guys crack me up when your only line of defense for your little turn president is to just "not believe" the objective facts. It's pathetic, actually.

"turd", not "turn"

War for war's sake?

Defend that, and you are truly as shameless as you often appear to be.

Posted by midiman at 2007-09-05 09:58 AM | Reply

Naw, it is war for big oil's sake. Always has been. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool or a liar.

a) I don't have a tv show that lemmings like yourself buy into hook, line, and sinker

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2007-09-05 10:52 AM | Reply

Who the hell would watch a 30 something loser broadcasting out of the shed attached to his double wide while swilling Zima and complaining that his AMC Pacer is backfiring?

There is a reason you do not have a show.... it would make reality tv look great.

""He's jealous cause Bush is beating him at his own game.

Playing the public!""

Not if you look at his poll numbers. The public isn't buying his bull shit any more.
Congress has low poll numbers because they can't seem to stop the lunatics.

Olberman is just doing what Beck claims to do.

Posted by truthhurts at 2007-09-05 10:59 AM

Here's your Funny Flag. Wear it with pride.

Posted by JimmyWallback at 2007-09-05 11:03 AM |

And we have another winner!

The fucker just bought 100,000 acres in Paraguay. How many Nazis retired there?

Bush telling Draper that he plans to make money by making speeches like his dad and Bill Clinton outraged some folks but it made me laugh.
The idea that someone would pay 50-75K to hear the idiot speak is hilarious...

Posted by danni at 2007-09-05 10:16 AM | Reply |

The idiot boy of the asshole will be making his speeches on the comedy club circuit.

What I'm amazed at is just how far partisan politics will go: the usual suspects on this thread are going full bore on attacking olbermann. How can they possibly be so blind to boy dunder's modus operendi? They make me think of the poor battered wife who keeps on loving her abuser, thinking things will get better.

"How many Nazis retired there?"

Posted by nutcase

The ones that didn't retire in Brazil and Argentina.

""They make me think of the poor battered wife who keeps on loving her abuser, thinking things will get better.""

Or like poor Mrs. Craig hoping someday her husband will be straight.

Well, the only sane conclusion I can come to ( the one that doesn't neccessitate me putting on my tin-foil hat) , IS that Bush truly believes he can establish an American friendly, Democratic state, in the midst of the middle east. Such an act would cement him in the annals of history.

He truly believes this, because he has to believe it, otherwise his entire presidency is a sham. I believe he's under the impresion it can be done with enough time, money, and American military might.

Now the one thing that throws a wrench into all this and makes me want to run to the kitchen to make a fresh, ultra density, tin - foil hat, is the war mongerign with Iran. I just can't figure out and sane reasoning fopr starting war on a second front.

Now the one thing that throws a wrench into all this and makes me want to run to the kitchen to make a fresh, ultra density, tin - foil hat, is the war mongerign with Iran. I just can't figure out and sane reasoning fopr starting war on a second front.

Posted by gustogus at 2007-09-05 11:31 AM | Reply

Don't You mean starting a war on a third front??

Larry

""Now the one thing that throws a wrench into all this""

is just about every fact that is relative to Iraq both now and before we invaded. Even the Israelis tolk him it wasn't a good idea. Even Cheney understood in 1994. To continue pretending would be fine if soldiers weren't dying. Sorry, Bush is virtually murdering any soldiers who are killed between now and the end of his term.

Hannity and Olberman.

Now thats a fuckin' show!

He truly believes this, because he has to believe it, otherwise his entire presidency is a sham. I believe he's under the impresion it can be done with enough time, money, and American military might. -Gustogus

He "truly believes" this, because he is one of those people who truly believe that God is giving them instructions. He "cries on God's shoulder" (may one ask where God's shoulder IS?) He hears voices "George, you should save the Iraqis from Saddam and make over the Middle East" (makes Joan of Arc seems reasonable in comparison).

What people of good mind need to do is convince their representatives that this man and his "God" aka Dick Cheney, are beyond sanity. They live in another world. Bush "apologizes" for inconveniencing Australians by being there. Does he mean it? Does he believe anything? He believes he is on a mission for Freedom, and that is beyond paranoid; it is completely delusional.

Come on Jimmy, you can do better than a typical Northguy ape session can't you? Have your fat fuck wife help. If that doesn't work make those ugly little twins of yours help.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2007-09-05 11:14 AM | Reply

All you have is hate in your life don't you?

I honestly feel sorry for you.

God bless.

I don't know why the NFL is continually trying to put pundits into football.

Ratings.

The old guys loved Howard Cosell.

The fucker just bought 100,000 acres in Paraguay. How many Nazis retired there?

Posted by nutcase at 2007-09-05 11:16 AM | Reply

Two more come Jan 2009.

The old guys loved Howard Cosell.

Posted by LeeAtwater at 2007-09-05 11:55 AM

I love watching the old Muhammad Ali and Howard Cosell interviews.

I think he makes a lot of sense. In my opinion it will be ignored but the truth in making his points are verifiable.

I agree with several of you in that to "shoot" the messenger is unproductive (and so GOP-ish).

"and those others who unthinkingly and uncritically serve as your echo chamber, at a time when the nation's future may depend on the airing of dissent."


It is easy to be the echo chamber...

Much harder to dissent in time of war.

Olbermann is a true American patriot. One of the few and the brave that actually speaks out against this insanity of the "forever war".

There was a day when American Foreign Policy was its best propaganda. Not anymore. Now our Foreign Policy creates more enemies than friends in this world.

And that makes us safer how again?



You go Keith! Call em as you see em!

God I love Olbermann

"...This country cannot run the risk of what you can still do to this country in the next 500 days.

Not while you are playing...."

That's right. We can't take another 500 days.
Impeach.

"Everything you said about Iraq yesterday, and everything you will say, is a deception, for the purpose of this one cynical, unacceptable, brutal goal: perpetuating this war indefinitely. War today, war tomorrow, war forever!"

Gee, this guy is a "journalist"? And, he's just now figuring this out? It really says something about the state of our country when the American population, (as inept as it tends to be), gets it before the press does. What is the use of having a free press if the people reporting the information are so far behind reality?

CAPTAINOFURANUS, good point there. Today on our local radio program a good Democratic Congresswoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz was on, and I really usually like her a lot but today a caller asked her about the Mexican trucks being allowed to start going all over the US....she didn't know a thing about it. I was shocked at her ignorance about an issue that will effect millions of American jobs. We need to start questioning our representatives to find out if they even have a clue. No wonder things are such a mess, many of our representatives have no idea what is going on.

And where did Olberman get his Journalism degree? Anyone? anyone? and his political science degree? anyone? anyone? This guy is just a big whining Idiot that collected baseball cards and somehow got on ESPN, I'll bet he throws like a girl!!! I watched this guy once and he has the biggest losers on his Show..John Dean? This guy was the biggest squealer and pussy I ever saw on TV, And He give G. Gordon Liddy a hard time, Dean ia a bureacratic weasel of the umphh degree...Wesley Clark? Are you kidding me? I was in Bosnia when he was running the show, he is a clueless bureacrat, he was never a general. And those other "Journalists" he has on. I would be giivng them the benefit of the doubt by calling them "metrosexuals" what a bunch os snobby New York elitists, they are all so much smarter than us, so we need them...What A joke,

Limbaugh, Fox News, and so on and so forth make their living supporting the current administration and attacking those who criticize, whereas Olbermann is criticizing the current administration, as he and the media should. Public opinion backs up his criticism, and there's a near daily stream of scandals for him to use as material.

His counterparts on the "right" make their living vilifying anyone who uses their first amendment rights. If it's a musician who speaks their mind, the machine swings into action to shut them up and cut their record sales. If it's someone operating a blog site, they start calling them Nazi's and reviling the site as "hate speech".

O'reilly's a pussy who threatens people on air and sexually harasses those he works with. Limbaugh is a drug addict. Hannity is just douche-bag, but I suppose there's nothing particularly evil in being a douche-bag.

I don't think that makes them two sides of the same coin.

First of all peoplwe, READ the F***ing constitution, it say 'GOVERNEMENT, shall make no Law Abridging the right to free speech"...Let me say that one more time for all you whiny babies who think O'Reilly is somehow squashing your right to cry all the time.."The Governement..Shall make no law" so If O'reilly or Hannity or Limbaugh or Olberman or Rosie O'Donnell think you should not By tickets to The Dixe Chicks or Ted Nugent or buy their Records, or Offer a retailiatory argument to yours, that is Not Abridging your Right to free speech, you freaking retards.Che Guevera (your hero) would abridge your right to free speech from the barrel of a gun. What is wrong with you lefties?

And no one ever said Olberman doesn't have the right to say whatever he wants, But to pass himself off as some kind of Peabody award winning Edward R. Murrow, because he can call Bush a Nazi on National Cable is Ludicrous..Like he is some kind of first amendment martyr becuase he can call Bush names on TV..What a big coward and pphony

And no one ever said Olberman doesn't have the right to say whatever he wants, But to pass himself off as some kind of Peabody award winning Edward R. Murrow, because he can call Bush a Nazi on National Cable is Ludicrous..Like he is some kind of first amendment martyr becuase he can call Bush names on TV..What a big coward and pphony

""And no one ever said Olberman doesn't have the right to say whatever he wants, But to pass himself off as some kind of Peabody award winning Edward R. Murrow""

You've made a little error here. It is fucking Bill O'reallyaliar that falsely claimed to have won a Peabody award. Olberman never has.
Thank you Al Franken for telling us about that little bit of false history from Oreallyaliar.

""John Dean? This guy was the biggest squealer and pussy I ever saw on TV, And He give G. Gordon Liddy a hard time, Dean ia a bureacratic weasel of the umphh degree""

hahahaha
Hillbilly is still pissed about Nixon having to resign. Hilarious.
John Dean rocks and Liddy is a convicted felon.

Who cares? Changing the subject is not going to not make you a retard..I don't care if he said he won the Noble peace prize in Physics, You take what he says and analyze it and look for alternative resources to either verify or discount what he says, You lefties just like hearing what makes you feel good, "what are you gonna give me?" what will I get" What's in it for me? If you want to believe Olberman and hold him up as some beacon of truth and light, that is your issue, But keep it to yourself, You just look stupid and most rational people know better, he is a partisan hack,just like 90 percent of people on TV

John Dean made a plea, he gave up others and Uyou know he still went to jail. read your history. And Yes , G Gordon is a Felon, But I'd rather have him with me in a Bar fight, then John Dean..

But I'd rather have him with me in a Bar fight, then John Dean..

Mars Bars at thirty paces...Cadbury Fruit and Nut Bars in the event of a draw.

Even the Israelis tolk him it wasn't a good idea.

My God!!!!

Do you really believe this???????

Israel was all for this and are now pushing for Iran.

It is so amasing to watch people use the propaganda from all fronts for their talking points.

""But I'd rather have him with me in a Bar fight, then John Dean..""

Generally I don't choose my friends based on who I would like to have with me in a bar fight.
To each his/her own.

Money, then what was that article the other day about??? The one which claimed the Israelis tried to discourage the Iraq invasion???

That is funny, Now A lefties says "Look Isreal was right" I'll bet that is the first time you have used your much hated Isreal to try and make your point!! Man I hope Netanyahu gets back in so you lefties can go back to blaming Isreal for all the middle east trouble

Why is this is a thread? Does anyone even watch MSNBC? KO is a pimple on a gnats ass (Credit Larry Mohr) as well as MSNBC. Their entire programming is criticizing anyone on the right and anyone on Fox.It is obvious NBC endorses the format and could care less about ratings. They even went a step further moving a little whining bitch like Dan Abrams to run MSNBC.

Even the Israelis tolk him it wasn't a good idea.

No, I don't believe it.

Bush is Playing us?

This is news?

Of course BushjCo have been playing the American People against their own best interests since before they took office and they've never stopped.

They used lies to get the US into Iraq.
Then they deliberately let the place go to hell.
Deliberately creating a power vacuum that Iran (among others) races to fill and then they use that fact as justification to bomb Iran satisfying the MIC/ AIPAC/ Big Oil agendas and fulfilling PNAC propecies.

Olberman is right and the sheer number of folk from the right who've lined up to shoot the messenger here is staggering.

Be Well.

It is a thread Because the Lefties are looking for a hero and I think they are trying to make Olberman their "Bill O"reilly" so they can have someone to love..If they can convince themselves that Olberman is one of them and looking out for them, then they will feel as if they can move into the ranks of "regular folks" instead of that freak show called the 'democratic base"

Olberman is right and the sheer number of folk from the right who've lined up to shoot the messenger here is staggering.

Which would equal 10% of his viewers. BTW he isn't a messenger. He is another unwanted turd on my lawn.

Danni,

Money, then what was that article the other day about??? The one which claimed the Israelis tried to discourage the Iraq invasion???

It was GZ propaganda machine trying to get Israel on the good side of the U.S. citizens before the people have a chance to get angry.

This is why I have continued to post opposing articles to GZ's, GZ is far too one sided towards Israel and its greatness.

There is no "Noble peace prize in Physics", just for the record. (And it's 'Nobel')

Yes, My Brain was running faster than my stubby little digitd, I meant Nobel prize in Physics..

"""This guy was the biggest squealer and pussy I ever saw on TV, ..."""

Posted by HillBillyJihad at 2007-09-05 02:12 PM |

Kinda like you on the DR, no? I hear squealing is big in the hillybillies...pussy or not.

Nice Retort Pancho, Did you figure that one all by yourself or was that a line you got off of UniVision..I see by your name you know what it is like to live 15 or 20 to a house, Just like us Hillbillies

Nice Retort Pancho, Did you figure that one all by yourself or was that a line you got off of UniVision..I see by your name you know what it is like to live 15 or 20 to a house, Just like us Hillbillies

Posted by HillBillyJihad at 2007-09-05 03:34 PM | Reply |

No I discussed things over with my 15 brothers and 12 sisters (who, btw, wanted me to call you a puppy-humping, sister-fucking, inbred needle dick) and I convinced them all to play it a little more low key, so you owe me one.

"It is a thread Because the Lefties are looking for a hero and I think they are trying to make Olberman their "Bill O"reilly" so they can have someone to love..If they can convince themselves that Olberman is one of them and looking out for them, then they will feel as if they can move into the ranks of "regular folks" instead of that freak show called the 'democratic base"
Posted by billybobjihad

it's a thread because it is the truth.... No matter who said it...

It is the truth and you know it..

This whole admin. has been caught in lie after lie and tried to twist that shit around.. I aint talking about a friggin blow job either.. I am talking about war and the case for war.

True conservatives cringe at the mere sound of W's name and fucked up articulation.

Well Good for you Pancho, Perhaps I will give them a little extra work on my Yard for their good behavior

And LFTHNDTHRDS, Oh I see, Since you said so it must be ther truth,Please forgive me for doubting it. I haven't seen all the documented facts about the lies, could you provide me a link to that, and as for Bill Clinton, If I understand correctly, he was impeached, and disbarred for pergury..wasn't it, (Oh Look juts like another democrat Mike Nifong). I don't remember any criminal indictments that stated anything about 'Illegal Blowjobs"..Why are you lefties such retards

Speaking of Freak shows.....

maybe you can explain the new "metro sexual" GOP Senate that occupies DC these days...

I mean, getting a gay sexual favor in a public restroom isn't exactly what i'd call Regular Folks"..

Oh and let me see... Solocitation of a prostitute...

Regular folks huh.

you are a peice of work...

That is what happens when you go to DC, If everyone stopped voting for these soft, over educated, Politically correct, Trial Lawyers and millionaires. I don't think their is a construction worker, secretary, plumber, compouter geek or road paver who could do any worse, How hard is it to take everyones money and over spend..and then spend all day bad-mouthing the people you have to work with on TV. C,mon, you think that all of them aren't doing queer stuff, he just lost control. I hate them all, But you lemmings keep voting for them becuse youy love your party more than your country. I am a conservative and I'd vote for Kucinich before any of the others, he may be a goof, But at least he says what he means...

"maybe you can explain the new "metro sexual" GOP Senate..."

They'll get sexual at any metro....

How many regular guys do you see on "COPS" getting busted trying to bang a hot cop dressed as a prostitute, at least it is somewhat normal, "And you're right propositioning guys in a public bathroom for a blowjob is just sick and disturbed, this guy needs to go..What happened to Olberman anyway, is he that boring that no one wants to defend him anymore?

the solocitation comment was pointed at my Senator
Vitter

Oh Yeah..I forgot about that guy, Well at least they were "High Classed" hookers..That is for your state to decide whether he stays or goes. I live in AZ, and I didn't vote for JD Heyworth becuase of the Abramoff thing, He promised to be clean and lied, So as A repub..I didn't vote , so he lost I felt bad that a dem got in, But at least he was a blue dog dem

I look forward to the coverage of the hypocrisy party lead by Craig and Vitter.

Their message of "family values" (for the fags and their "gay agenda") has yet to have a fair hearing.

Hillbilly-
re: "C,mon, you think that all of them aren't doing queer stuff"

I doubt it, but that statement really says more about you than anyone else.

What happened to Olberman anyway?

Nothing....

What he said was true
Not because he said it.... but because it is true.

Honestly, I never had much for him. His news shows remind me of SNL's Not Necessarily the News skits.

I listened to him, and besides the emotion he put into it, it was generally the basic shit I have seen in this prez and his closest peeps.

'Well at least they were "High Classed" hookers.'

LOL

"I look forward to the coverage of the hypocrisy party lead by Craig and Vitter."

The things that have been brought to light lately are simply the old rule applied......

"If you live in a glass house dont throw rocks"
"What comes around goes around"

These things were certianly human nature. resisting is chanracer.

Being an example in your walk through life is commendable and needs no words to back it.

Being a spokesman for family values while campaigning for the US Senate and running the whores at the same time is fucking PRICELESS!

chanracer = character

Hey Cooper...Look up the definition of the word "queer" and if you don't like the definition, why don't you ask websters to change it to something more to your liking..Your statement say something about you..The fact that you and your Ilk have turned that word into something derogatory is not my fault, becuase I use it in its true sense and it offends you is not my fault..So If you want to place some obscure characteristic on me to try and dimisnish my point of view as some ramblings of a 'bigot' of some sort..That is the standard tatcic of a leftie who has no intellectual ammunition to debate and I am used to it. So feel free

'Well at least they were "High Classed" hookers.'

Does that mean we have a High Class Senator?

Billybob

"C,mon, you think that all of them aren't doing queer stuff"

The way it appears to me is you may think all of our Senators are fucking perverts.

Let me get something straight..

I was refering to a lewd act that Craig pled guilty to participating in..

I didn't say they are all doing "perverted" stuff, I am making the point that most of them have no Idea what we do out here and could care less. Because they are all rich, over educated silver soon pussies, with few exceptions, (McCain, Murtha, Webb, Tancredo, Rangel) Are you going to tell me Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, Snow, Sanders and that Ilk are in -tune with "regular folks" they are "queer" because they live in a strange reality that only exists in Washington

HillyBilly - are you for real? Or are you really a lefty just trying to make rightwingers look like complete lunatics?

Nope.. I am for real..And as always "Arise My hillbilly brotheren..for the Jihad is upon us"

Olberman's newcast is the best thing on cable news.

I hope this hate filled, biased, sports "reporter" named Olberman visits my city as part of his NFL duties. He will receive appropriate "welcome". One or two eggs sir? While on the air? Even better.

I just don't think Hillbilly likes being on the losing side of an argument. The truth is, week after week Olbermann catches Bill-O, Limbaugh, and Bushco spewing more lies and half-truths, and slams them for it. He's one of the few journalists who are actually doing their job in reporting the truth to the people.

No, he's no shining beacon of anything, but he should be commended for telling the truth. He quotes directly, and hardly ever gets a fact wrong. Bill-O and Limbaugh on the other hand are routinely caught feeding lies and misinformation to the public. If you can point to any "journalist" on fox news who has pointed out the truth of what this administration is doing without putting spin on it to make it "not so bad", then feel free to let me know. Colms doesn't count because he's Hannity's bitch.

And as bad as I feel for what Tony Snow has gone/is going through, he was hired by the White House straight from Fox News. That should tell you something.

The truth is, week after week Olbermann catches Bill-O, Limbaugh, and Bushco spewing more lies and half-truths, and slams them for it. He's one of the few journalists who are actually doing their job in reporting the truth to the people.
Seems as though Bill-O and Limbaugh are simply slamming him for slaming them. Which he then slams back and the fools like you think he is accomplishing something.

And as bad as I feel for what Tony Snow has gone/is going through, he was hired by the White House straight from Fox News. That should tell you something.
What should it tell us? Does it tell us the same thing that Chris Matthews was Tip O'neils chief of staff and now works for NBC? Probably not. Just a qualified spokes person turned reporter, or reporter turned spokes person.

Defend that, and you are truly as shameless as you often appear to be.

Posted by midiman

shameless is reid, murtha, turbin.......

I'd be perfectly fine with Tony Snow leaving the White House and working at Fox News. But to leave a station that is widely recognized as a bull-horn for the Bush administration for the same administration has the impression that the Administration is seeking loyalty to the party line rather than skill at conveying the truth to the public. Of course the job of the Press Secretary is to spin anyway, so maybe I'm expecting too much.

I will admit I like Snow more than I like Fleischer or McClellan. Even Olbermann has said he has respect for Snow.

How are you with George Stephanopoulos or others departing that role for, in George's case, a big time gig on what most lefties would call a legitimate & fair network - ABC?

No problemo fer a coupla reasons.

Yer analogy is inapt.

First, Stephanopoulos didn't go from ABC to the WH and then back again.

Second, Clinton aint in power any more and Bush still is so yeah, that's a stickler.

Third, as an apologist fer the Clinton presidency, GS didn't have too much to hang his head about, but being an apologist fer the dangerous, unsonstitutional war criminals at BushCo as TS has, he has much more to answer for.

Nice try though.

Be Well.

"He will receive appropriate "welcome".

Posted by slicksterWilly at 2007-09-05 05:38 PM"

I'll bet. You going to meet him in the airport bathroom, as usual?

He will receive appropriate "welcome".

Posted by slicksterWilly at 2007-09-05 05:38 PM

I'll bet. You going to meet him in the airport bathroom, as usual?

Posted by mOntecOre at 2007-09-05 06:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

One or two eggs sir? Posted by slicksterWilly at 2007-09-05 05:38 PM

"" I am a conservative and I'd vote for Kucinich before any of the others, he may be a goof, But at least he says what he means...""

Me and Hillbilly agree on one thing at least....and I agree, part of Kucinich's appeal is that he isn't a mealy mouthed politician afraid to speak his mind. I especially liked the debate when they discussed NAFTA. Everyone else said they'd "fix it". He came right out and said he would get rid of it immediately.
We need a doer not a wordsmith.

I guess Olberman forgot to mention the troops in Japan...(WW2 was a long time ago moonbat) and the troops in the 56 year old war zone in Korea (yea Keith that war never officially ended)...Iraq is really bad because Bush is a Republican, just say it Keith, you suffer from BDS (Bush Deraignment Syndrome)

No, Ferguson----Iraq is really bad because George Bush is qualified to sell insurance to someone, not be president.

You should only hope Iraq turns out as good as Korea. Frankly, in a pig's eye it will.

I understand Bush recently describes his feminine side to biographers---How many hot tears he sheds for this or that.

Don't beleive it. A prime reason to think Bush teases us with troop reductions is he is a sadist.

No, take that back. Sadists actually have feelings. Bush is a paper bag filled with old wax.

Olbermann is like of of Mike Vicks dogs, he is so mentally disturbed he should be put down.

If you agree with his sickness, you should be put down too.

"If you agree with his sickness"

What do you disagree with? Bush never said those things to the author? Or Bush isn't playing with soldier's lives? I mean, you've shot the messenger; anything of substance to say about the message?

What do you disagree with? Bush never said those things to the author? Or Bush isn't playing with soldier's lives? I mean, you've shot the messenger; anything of substance to say about the message?

Olbermann is filth incarnate, you only verify that premise.

If you had the sense of a rabid weasel you would understand that.

And while I'm here, WTF is an Asshammer, anyway?

Posted by TreesGoneWild

Insert an 8 penny nail in your butt and find out. :-)

"Olbermann is filth incarnate"

Okay, let's say I agree with you. Now, frothing aside, could you answer my questions?

Olbermann creates his vision of hate around his skewed, vile, vision of reality.

The hate is already there, he only fills in the blanks with darkness. In the mind of the hard left, Bush already equates to evil.

Everything you are force fed by the Bush hating media reinforces that concept without question or self reflection.

When you preach hate to the haters, you only need to provide the demented context, without fact.

If you can't see that, I can't convince you of it, you're already to far gone.

Insert an 8 penny nail in your butt and find out. :-)

Posted by wisgod at 2007-09-05 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow, dude. Yer jus an agressive lil feller today aren't ya?

And Senator Craig called, he'd like to see you in the men's room in fifteen minutes. Don't be late again, you know how impatient he gets...foot tapping never ends well.

Asshammer,

Can you not read? Okay, you've bashed Olberman. Okay, let's say I agree. Now, let's put him aside.

For the last time: What's your reaction to the fact that Bush said he was "playing" with the soldiers lives? Do you believe the author quoting Bush is lying? If so, say so. If not, comment, if you have anything of substance to say.

"Bush already equates to evil...."

"Already"? The man has long since earned that equation using the blood and money of other men much better than he is.

Bush needs to thank God daily for James Buchanan. He's the only possible person he can look down on.

Danforth---Do you think Asshammer cares what Bush says? The same Bushites that split a vein when Bush lied about keeping Rummy will turn around and dare you to find one instance when he lied. If Bush put shit on white bread they'd praise the nutritional value.

Your response only reinforces my observation.

You can construct a 'lie' out of someone else reality, if, you have already predetermined that response.

Pavlov understood the reflex reaction, on a base level Olbermann does as well.

He provides you with the meat and you provide MSNBC with the saliva.

You are preprogramed to hate the President of the United States.

Much like a islamic student at a madrassa, you repeat hatred of President Bush over and over, it's conditioned response.

You have no choice but to drool at Olbermanns hate.

Okay, Asshammer, it's official: you're a frothing, mewling tool who can't post anything even resembling sensibility. I gave you multiple opportunities to actually address the issue, and all you can do is puke up a lot of worthless bile. Typical.

Asshammer,

Free Republic or Little Green Footballs?

I don't blame you, you lack the ability for self reflection of thought.

The dinnner bell has of hate rung and you have no other option but to bark and drool, it's what you have been trained to do.

You don't have any other choice.

"an asshammer is nothing more than an anal device capable of packing shit"

Thanks, Oz. No wonder the guy is so full of it.

/me jumps on AssPounder and chews his face off.

Go ask Colmes for a new face.

Sorry. Redact the earlier post. That was a little harsh.

The sad part is, despite Olbermann's hyperbole, Bush doesn't intend to end our occupation of Iraq. And that has nothing to do with democracy or the Iraqi people, and perhaps even less with our troops. We're going to stay in Iraq and continue guarding the oil fields. And I doubt electing a new president or impeaching the one we've got will change that.

Keith speaks the truth.

We're going to stay in Iraq and continue guarding the oil fields. And I doubt electing a new president or impeaching the one we've got will change that.

Posted by OzarkAggie at 2007-09-05 11:30 PM

Nothing will change. A neutral assessment that was written about the 6 military bases being built for our use in Iraq to guard those oil fields gave an estimated base lifetime of 30-40 years use.

We ain't never going to leave Iraq and it was never in the original war plans for our troops to come home once we got there. I figure, maybe, 75,000 of our troops will be based there permanently? Yes? No?

I was refering to a lewd act that Craig pled guilty to participating in..



Posted by lfthndthrds


of course, he plead gulity to no such thing. How can people be so ill-informed with all of the news sources avaiable? FOX, perhaps?

I don't blame you, you lack the ability for self reflection of thought.

The dinnner bell has of hate rung and you have no other option but to bark and drool, it's what you have been trained to do.

You don't have any other choice.



Posted by asshammer


Good grief. Another fountain of drivel with an adolescent screen name - big surprise. Red state, too, I'll bet.

Its ironic when right wingers feel put upon by hate, mis-representation, dirty tricks etc. They have no credibility to cite anything.

Could it be the Dems are catching up?

What the fuck has Olberman said that not true?????

That should be what this thread is revealing...

The man always backs what he says with Quotes or video clips..... He never "implies" (notice the root word of impLIES) anything.

If he is lying please point it out to me.

If he is not lying and just being a little over zealous then that is a different story.

If what he says is true then suck it up and call your Commander in Thief what he really is...

Someone like Asshammer talking about others being filled with hate is hilarious. I think he's taking his lessons from Orally. Anyone who says anything that Orally disagrees with is "spewing hate".

I don't hear anything hateful in what Olbermann says. He quotes facts. Period.

BTW - I live in a "red" state. Believe it or not, there are some intelligent people in red states. They just happen to be Democrats and Independents.

"I don't blame you, you lack the ability for self reflection of thought.

The dinnner bell has of hate rung and you have no other option but to bark and drool, it's what you have been trained to do.

You don't have any other choice."

Posted by asshammer

Speaking of barking and drooling...

The right just doesnt know how to handle Truth for them it needs to be spun and sugar coated and sprinkled with the magicwand of Bill O'Riely or Rush, which is why they missed the point of Keiths rant. Reading through some of these postings it is funny to see comments about how Keith uses hate speech or twist the truth. It is funny to see the people who support FOX news getting this upset. Keith must be onto something. Keep it up.

Bush is playing us, Clinton played us, Bush Sr. played us, and Ronnie Fucking Raygun played us.

How is this news?

How is this news?

3700 dead American soldiers
500 billion dollars flushed in the toilet
Iran is now more powerful
ETc. ETc.

There is "playing us" and then there is "PLAYING US."

How is this news?

Posted by itsme at 2007-09-06 12:35 PM

It isnt news. It is pitiful attempt by a raving nut trying to read through the lines in a gotcha moment. To jump to a conclusion that sustaining a presence means Bush privately wants to keep ALL troops in Iraq and to spew his insignifigant opinion in a rabid rant only proves his far, far left partisan mindset. I guess his July 4th crazy rant didn't get him and his ego any press so he felt the need to step it up a notch

He is not a journalist and can't even be considered news worthy so why does he get this much ink?

There is "playing us" and then there is "PLAYING US."

Posted by danni at 2007-09-06 12:50 PM


What's the difference in your case? You allow yourself to be palyed with ANY crticism of republicans, Bush, Rove, Cheney, the military, cops, corporations... Hell you've been played more times than Jenna Jamesons videos.

Well OC, Bill O'Reilly did sharpen his "Journalistic
Teeth" on "Inside Edition" and I'm sure you tune in to his rants.

Well OC, Bill O'Reilly did sharpen his "Journalistic
Teeth" on "Inside Edition" and I'm sure you tune in to his rants.

Posted by itsme at 2007-09-06 01:00 PM

Apples and oranges you say? I guess you agree with my post. Unless you simply forgot to refute the post.

My bad. It was "A Current Affair".

That's even more pathetic.

WOW I find it overwhelming how partisan you are. We want the news! Not your opinion. You are a hate monger who does not deserve the position you have

To jump to a conclusion that sustaining a presence means Bush privately wants to keep ALL troops in Iraq and to spew his insignifigant opinion in a rabid rant only proves his far, far left partisan mindset
Posted by crispee_oc



Gee ... a Bush polyp misrepresents the argument in order to set up a straw man. What a surprise.

Show me where we are saying ALL troops, crispee.

WOW I find it overwhelming how partisan you are. We want the news! Not your opinion. You are a hate monger who does not deserve the position you have. All you "reporters make me sick. Instead of helping trying to unite the country all you guys do is polorize on both sides.

Gee ... a Bush polyp misrepresents the argument in order to set up a straw man. What a surprise.

Show me where we are saying ALL troops, crispee.

Posted by midiman at 2007-09-06 01:43 PM

I guess 'we' means you are in Keiths ass. He is the one who came to that conclusion.

Take heart guys, Bush is going to send 5,000 troops home as a gesture of his good will. Sure, he'll send them back in two weeks, but at least they're not part of the other 155,000 who won't get to go home until their 15 month tour is up...

Oh, and Crispee, Bush hasn't said or confirmed a damn thing about sending any troops home permanently. So the presumption (based on what he said in the book) is that he's playing for October or November so Republican candidates will be more comfortable keeping troops there "longer". The estimates that have come out of the whitehouse in the past have said troops will be needed for atleast a decade. So really Crispee, how long should any of us assume he meant by "longer"? Indefinitely sounds like a solid bet.

"I guess 'we' means you are in Keiths ass. He is the one who came to that conclusion."

I don't think anyone mentioned anything about Keith's ass. Why are you obsessed with Keith's ass Crispee?

So really Crispee, how long should any of us assume he meant by "longer"? Indefinitely sounds like a solid bet.

Posted by ddenton at 2007-09-06 03:03 PM

I wish that was the point I was arguing and could respond. Since it was about Keith calling Bush a liar on an assumption and spewing his skewed conclusion....

I don't think anyone mentioned anything about Keith's ass. Why are you obsessed with Keith's ass Crispee?

Posted by ddenton at 2007-09-06 03:05 PM |

0-2 Denton. Let me help you out since you are off this mark.

Gee ... a Bush polyp misrepresents the argument in order to set up a straw man. What a surprise.

Show me where we are saying ALL troops, crispee.

Posted by midiman at 2007-09-06 01:43 PM

I guess 'we' means you are in Keiths ass. He is the one who came to that conclusion.

Posted by crispee_oc at 2007-09-06 01:48 PM

Crispee,

0-2? Midiman calls you a polyp, which frankly could exist in many parts of the body, most likely in the ass, but you assume it's in Bush's ass.

You response was akin to saying "well, you're a polyp in Keith Olbermann's ass...".

How fucking juvenile.

Anything coming from Olberman is gospel to libs and heresy to conservatives.

Did Bush kick his ass too?

I agree with several of you in that to "shoot" the messenger is unproductive (and so GOP-ish).

Posted by fresno500

Actually shooting the messenger is more NRA-ish. Especially if the mesenger is a deer or a duck.

And we all know Teal-wings and Mallards are the true enemies of the state...

You response was akin to saying "well, you're a polyp in Keith Olbermann's ass...".

How fucking juvenile.

Posted by ddenton at 2007-09-06 03:41 PM |

O-3 Denton. Pay attention even though you have struck out on the argument.

(Gee ... a Bush polyp misrepresents the argument in order to set up a straw man. What a surprise.

Show me where we are saying ALL troops, crispee.

Posted by midiman at 2007-09-06 01:43 PM)

Since I wrote Keith ranted about ALL the troops and Midiman wrote show me where WE are saying... I concluded HE must be up Keiths ass since HE includes himself with Keith.

Well, can you show where "we" were saying ALL troops? Really, isn't that what your scoring system is based on? And if you had read my earlier post, Bush has never mentioned any timetable to sending ANY troops home, permanently. So based on what he has said in the book, it's conceivable that saying "ALL troops" indefinitely isn't that big a stretch. Of course Bush would send them home for two weeks every 15 months. That makes carrying 100 lbs in 120 degree heat totally worth it.

Denton,
Can you PLEASE go to my first post before writing anything else? I never said WE. I said Keith. He based his rant calling the Pres a liar trying to conclude what was written in the book. Bush said our 'presence' in Iraq. Keith seems to believe our presence is ALL THE TROOPS when the quote he uses says nothing of the sort. Keith think he has a gotch moment and he is as skewed as his politics.

I went all the way back to your post at 12:51, which was the one where you said:

"To jump to a conclusion that sustaining a presence means Bush privately wants to keep ALL troops in Iraq and to spew his insignifigant opinion in a rabid rant only proves his far, far left partisan mindset"

Midi called you out and said:

"Show me where we are saying ALL troops, crispee."

Calling you a polyp wasn't very productive, and really not that funny, but insinuating he was up Keith's ass (I still can't believe we're talking about that...) doesn't add anything either. For my own part, I said you were obsessed with Keith's ass.

I think this whole argument was about the assertion that Bush would keep ALL troops in Iraq indefinitely, and it sounds like Bush plans on keeping them there indefinitely, so even IF Keith said that, which I'm not sure he did, then it wouldn't be far off. And on that note, anyone who is passionate about defending the constitution and what this country should stand for I wouldn't call rabid, I'd call them patriotic. Of course, Ted Nugent gets that credit, but then again, he threatens people with bodily harm at the end of an M-16 in concert.

Of course, Ted Nugent gets that credit, but then again, he threatens people with bodily harm at the end of an M-16 in concert.

Posted by ddenton at 2007-09-06 05:34 PM

You are now 1-4 Denton. He only threatens those who want to take his guns away.

Threatening anyone is against the law, even if you're the Nuge.

Besides, there are plenty of hunting rifles that fire the same round as the M-16 does, and even more that fire bigger rounds. No one needs an assault rifle, even for hunting.

Crispee-
Do you know how Nugent avoided the draft in the Vietnam war? (Google it)

Threatening anyone is against the law, even if you're the Nuge.

Besides, there are plenty of hunting rifles that fire the same round as the M-16 does, and even more that fire bigger rounds. No one needs an assault rifle, even for hunting.

Posted by ddenton at 2007-09-06 05:56 PM

Denton,
It starts with the assault rifle and by the time it is over we are down to pea shooters. Not being paranoid. Just don't trust those who want to ban the 2nd amendment.

Crispee-
Do you know how Nugent avoided the draft in the Vietnam war? (Google it)

Posted by Cooper at 2007-09-06 06:04 PM




Regarding military service
An interviewer from the British newspaper The Independent questioned Nugent about a 1977 interview in High Times magazine in which Nugent allegedly detailed elaborate steps taken to avoid the Vietnam draft. While not denying that he made such statements, Nugent dismissed their veracity, claiming that when confronted with 'glazed-eyed' interviewers, he would "make stories up." He explained that he did not go to Vietnam because he had a 1 year student deferment. When questioned, he admitted that he had "not wanted to get his ass blown off in Vietnam," but made note of a tour he made with the USO in 2004 to Fallujah and Afghanistan as support of his assertion that "I am not a coward." He also said that "Because I failed to serve in Vietnam, I feel an obligation now, to do everything I can to support those defending our freedom. Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes."[5]

"It starts with the assault rifle and by the time it is over we are down to pea shooters."

Using that logic, why shouldn't we allow shoulder-fired missles? Hand grenades? Hell, "by the time it is over", personal nukes?

Any civilized society should be able to draw a line. With assault rifles, its all about who has the smallest dick and needs to overcompensate.

Any civilized society should be able to draw a line. With assault rifles, its all about who has the smallest dick and needs to overcompensate.

Posted by Danforth at 2007-09-06 06:22 PM |

You are probaly correct and I have never owned one. The question is who draws the lines? Their line may differ than others.

Crispee...check your mail!

Crispee-
The original story Nugent told was that he crapped and pissed his own pants for a month, did not bathe etc., and then went in for his physical.

"No one needs an assault rifle"

How about for defending yourself from invasion? Insurection? You think our form of government is going to last forever while never having to restore it by force from time to time? Your safety from your own government wont last long without equal force of arms.

I did not know that Nuggent avoided the draft ala Bush, Cheney and chicken hawk Inc.

As much shit as he talks I figured he was "balls to the wall."

I guess I have just found out what he's really about.

Fresno-
re: As much shit as he talks I figured he was "balls to the wall."

Maybe the interior abdomen wall.

When will this news be put on the front page of the New York Post and Washington Times? (Odd the neo-conservatives' favorite parers are the transposition of their least favorite papers!)

"No one needs an assault rifle"

How about for defending yourself from invasion? Insurection? You think our form of government is going to last forever while never having to restore it by force from time to time? Your safety from your own government wont last long without equal force of arms.

If the government did need overthrowing, there are 300 million people in this country. How many of those have semi automatic or bolt action rifles? How many own functional weapons from past wars? How many own handguns? Our army is what, 500,000 strong? How many of those would want to fight their own countrymen? In this country we vote out our crappy leadership. I highly doubt in my lifetime violence will be needed to overthrow a government.

I also think you're underestimating the populace's ability to defend itself. I own two firearms. One is a Remington Viper .22 semi, and the other is a Mossberg 20 gauge. I don't feel any danger from my government taking those away. It may have happened in Britain because gun violence is a huge problem in Britain right now. Comparatively speaking, in the US you're more likely to choke on your whopper with cheese than be shot.

Damn you, italic tags... Damn you!

Here's the content of my reply. Sorry for the confusion:

If the government did need overthrowing, there are 300 million people in this country. How many of those have semi automatic or bolt action rifles? How many own functional weapons from past wars? How many own handguns? Our army is what, 500,000 strong? How many of those would want to fight their own countrymen? In this country we vote out our crappy leadership. I highly doubt in my lifetime violence will be needed to overthrow a government.

I also think you're underestimating the populace's ability to defend itself. I own two firearms. One is a Remington Viper .22 semi, and the other is a Mossberg 20 gauge. I don't feel any danger from my government taking those away. It may have happened in Britain because gun violence is a huge problem in Britain right now. Comparatively speaking, in the US you're more likely to choke on your whopper with cheese than be shot.