Oh yeah right... let the spin begin... Bushling sews up his legacy as a victim of his team... relly folk he was just a good guy that loved too much.

Cheney should never have been made veep. He should be the president.

Cheney should never have been made veep. He should be the president.

He is president, Vern. The man does Bush's thinking for him without having to take the heat.

Yeah he should be president because he learned so much since 1994. His war in Iraq turned out so successfully.

My guess would be that Rove didn't want to compete with another gargantuan ego.

Even a broken clock is right twice day!

Actually, Rove was more politically astute on power than on American constitutional ideals. At least he had the intuitive perceptiveness to see that Cheney was a rancid Machiavellian.

As it turns out, everything in the foreign and national security sphere that alienated the USA from its allies emanated from Cheney's evil genius and his pool of dank cronies. (Bush's cronies were generally the incompetents; Cheney's were the darkly competent.)

Even a broken clock is right twice day!
Actually, Rove was more politically astute on power than on American constitutional ideals. At least he had the intuitive perceptiveness to see that Cheney was a rancid Machiavellian.
As it turns out, everything in the foreign and national security sphere that alienated the USA from its allies emanated from Cheney's evil genius and his pool of dank cronies. (Bush's cronies were generally the incompetents; Cheney's were the darkly competent.)

Posted by townncountry at 2007-09-03 10:15 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

Technically this is an innaccurate statement. First off did the clock break/stop during Daylight saving time or did it stop at Standard time. If it stopped at Standard time it would read what time it was during standard time and thus be not the correct time during Daylight Saving time and Visa versa. Just a little FYI

Larry

He is president, Vern. The man does Bush's thinking for him without having to take the heat.

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-03 09:30 AM | Reply

Wrong-O! Cheney is certainly an influence, but he's not in charge.

If Cheney were in charge, Iraq and Iran would both be smoldering heaps of total devastation.

And if Cheney were in charge, we'd be doing the right thing and drilling in ANWR, off the coasts of Florida and California, and we'd be arm-twisting the Saudis.

Gas would be 33 cents a gallon.

And if Cheney were in charge -- with 33 cent gas -- all those UAW workers would be building Suburbans and Expeditions, and their employers would be funding their retirements.

If Cheney were in charge, Iraq and Iran would both be smoldering heaps of total devastation.

Well, then, thank the Great God Almighty for George Bush's moderating influence! Why, without him we'd probably be bogged down in some ME shithole fighting a war we've no business getting invovled in.

if Cheney were in charge -- with 33 cent gas -- all those UAW workers would be building Suburbans and Expeditions, and their employers would be funding their retirements.

Posted by vernon

LOL
Vernon you're way past just using koolaide this mornin.

Vernon is just dreaming his American Dream, don't wake him.

Wrong-O! Cheney is certainly an influence, but he's not in charge.

That's what Bush thinks. Strong is the power of suggestion to a childish mind.

If Cheney were in charge, Iraq and Iran would both be smoldering heaps of total devastation.

Posted by vernon at 2007-09-03 10:37 AM

One down and one to go. Iran is in Cheney's gun sights as we write.

And if Cheney were in charge, we'd be doing the right thing and drilling in ANWR, off the coasts of Florida and California, and we'd be arm-twisting the Saudis.


"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has warned Vice President Dick Cheney that Saudi Arabia would back the Sunnis if the United States pulls out of Iraq, according to a senior American official."


Gas would be 33 cents a gallon

"Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones. You sure you got today's codes?"

Cheney Is An Oil Man The More Oil Cost The More Money He Makes !!

High Middle East Oil Prices Makes US Oil Profitable.

-Sarge

So, Americans are in mortgage smack down, our troops are fighting and sacrificing for our freedoms, illegal immigration continues and what pressing issue weighs heavily on the President's mind: Gotta fill the coffers. Gotta make money givin speeches. Gotta top Clinton's fee.
How inspirational. Right up there with never, never, never give up.

One down and one to go. Iran is in Cheney's gun sights as we write.

I think you are right. This administration at this point feels it has nothing to lose. It is probably willing to gamble its legacy, not to mention countless lives, on one last shot at some crazy military scheme to "fix" the Mideast problem and his miserable presidency.

In my mind the only way to fix the Mideast problem is to make their oil economically unnecessary to the global economy while at the same time foster economic initiatives for their economies that need to compete for the markets of the world. When one has to compete for customers, one tends not to threaten to kill or terrorize them.

Can you imagine how far the U.S. might be in alternative energy sources, if the price tag for the Iraq war was put into research and development?

Cheers

Vernon you're way past just using koolaide this mornin.
Posted by Zap at 2007-09-03 10:43 AM | Reply

that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over Posted by Sarge at 2007-09-03 10:59 AM | Reply

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Your total lack of a response, even a retarded Lefty response, just proves tha I am correct. And you know it. You got nothing but random crap to say.

Can you imagine how far the U.S. might be in alternative energy sources if we hadn't elected Reagan?

Your total lack of a response, even a retarded Lefty response, just proves tha I am correct. And you know it. You got nothing but random crap to say.

There is nothing left to say to morons who can't reason. The illogic that insults prove you are correct proves it.

Can you imagine how far the U.S. might be in alternative energy sources, if the price tag for the Iraq war was put into research and development?
Grendel: If, instead of pissing away a trillion in Iraq, we had started building hybrids, the Administration could have given every family one (which would have been suitable for the vast majority of daily driving trips), created tens of thousands of good paying jobs, collected a gazillion in Federal, state and local taxes and we'd never have to buy another barrel of ME oil again.

Vern,

I Did !

Vernon Statment :Gas would be 33 cents a gallon

Sarge's Response:

"Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones. You sure you got today's codes?"

"Cheney Is An Oil Man The More Oil Cost The More Money He Makes !!

High Middle East Oil Prices Makes US Oil" Profitable.

Like I Said Before:

"Cocaine Is A Powerful Drug"


-Sarge

North Guy,

Approx $625 Billion about 2/3 of what this War will Cost.

-Sarge

"And if Cheney were in charge, we'd be doing the right thing and drilling in ANWR, off the coasts of Florida and California, and we'd be arm-twisting the Saudis.

Posted by vernon"

And that oil, like the oil from the Trans-Alaskan pipeline, would be sold to the highest bidder, and be pumped into supertankers headed for Asia - not helping alleviate our dependence on foreign ol as the T-A pipeline was touted it would do. Those are the facts. Make a LAW that oil pumped from U.S. soil remains HERE and your arguement might carry some weight. Sadly, that's not the case. The oil mouthpieces like Cheney sure would like you to THINK so though.

Gas IS somewhere close to 33 cents a gallon - in Iraq - thanks to subsidies you and I pay.

"And if Cheney were in charge, we'd be doing the right thing and drilling in ANWR, off the coasts of Florida and California, and we'd be arm-twisting the Saudis.

Posted by vernon"

If Cheney were in charge, he would get legislation passed by sending the Secret Service to break some arms.

The issue seems to be who's running the country, Rove or Cheney. Surely not The Chimp. I antagonize righty-tighties by suggesting a corporocracy, anonymous middle-aged white men in suits and paunches. But I have trouble visualizing which ones are in charge. Do they meet on the top floor of the Transamerica pyramid and decide how to wring ev ery last buck out of the sap on the street? Maybe nobody's in charge. A computer somewhere in the bowels of some mountain, geared for one thing - maximum profit - is deciding even as we ramble whom to nuke... herm

Your total lack of a response, even a retarded Lefty response, just proves tha I am correct. And you know it. You got nothing but random crap to say.

Posted by vernon

Random Crap, indeed

"33 cent gas"

Wasn't Chaney the guy who not to many years ago was saying gas was to cheap.

I thing Vernon's math skills are at play once again.

I think Vermine just started sniffing the Kool-aide powder. Why wait for it to dissolve?

Vernon was no doubt looking to get to a rise out of someone but with statements like his all it got was laughter. Oh Vernon we were laughing with you, sure..

Proof positive that Bush was not always mindlessly following Rove's advice.

With his "we have turn the corner, help is on the way" line, Dick Cheney contributed to the election of George Bush against the enviro Pope. This was very reassuring after Bill Clinton emasculated the military with his liberal agenda.

Code word for "the military is not invisible to us'.

Proof positive that Bush was not always mindlessly following Rove's advice.

After Cheney became the official Veep then both Rove and Bush we're taking marching orders from him.

Rove wanted to avoid this, obviously.

This doesn't mean that he's any less evil just that he's not that dumb.

Meirs was a stOOpid choice.

So was Gonzo.

Reconstruction of the Fables time?

No redemption fer Karlos the Jackass.

Be Well.

This was very reassuring after Bill Clinton emasculated the military with his liberal agenda.

That would be the emasculated military that defeated milosovec with two casualties, chased the taliban out of Kabul and overthrew saddam?
That emasculated military? The fuck-ups didn't begin until the Bushies started to act like they knew what to do and got in the way of the grown-ups.

Yall democrats ain't knowin nothin bout politics

"Clinton emasculated the military with his liberal agenda.."

He WHAT??? Clinton liberal??? Hay-Seuss. herm

Et tu, Ro-ve?

"Rove, meanwhile, was not happy, Draper writes, with Bolten's decision to strip him of his oversight of policy at the White House, directing his focus instead to politics and the coming midterm elections. Bolten noticed that other staffers were "intimidated" by Rove, and Rove was seen as doing too much, "freelancing, insinuating himself into the message world . . . parachuting into Capitol Hill whenever it suited him."

Would love to have been a fly on the wall in that room with Rappin'Rove and Bad Bolton going at it.

The part about Bush believing the Chalabi guys in his office before the invasion about flowers and chocolates is just sad.

Your total lack of a response, even a retarded Lefty response, just proves tha I am correct. And you know it. You got nothing but random crap to say.

Posted by vernon


Sorry, vern, I have to vote no, too. Or perhaps you could provide us with the data you used to arrive at your 33 cent a gallon price for gas.

Only a rightie dolt can believe that the answer to dwindling oil supplies is to use more oil.