Well I don't know about anger. If it Ghouliani vs. Hildabeast I think apathy is the better description. Hmmm no wait make that despair.

Anyone else think Dems might be running the wrong Edwards?

The "right one" is dying RCade, though she lives everyday as we all should.

She is right to say this. After Hillary gets the nomination, if she does, Republicans will stoop to new depths to attack her AND Bill

I don't know where Hillary gets her base. I would never vote for her in a primary. I hope I don't have to vote for her in the general election. But I would much prefer her to someone who runs on the blood of 911.

I hope I don't have to vote for her in the general election. But I would much prefer her to someone who runs on the blood of 911.

Except for Ron Paul, war runs in the blood of every presidential candidate. In Hillary's speeches, she out rights the right.

When Hillary gets the nomination, Lizy Bordon will support her like all political whores do.

"Except for Ron Paul, war runs in the blood of every presidential candidate."

You forgot Kucinich.

Ray

Don't try to tie my post to yours. They have nothing in common. Giuliani runs on the blood of 911. No one else in the race on either side runs on the blood of 911.

Kucinich is the best person for the job.

I think Bill is the greatest, BJ not withstanding !

If Hillary had half of his presence the dumbass GOP losers wouldn't have to apply for the job.

And yes, I'd vote for her rather than those who run on the blood of 911.

No one else in the race on either side runs on the blood of 911.

I forgot. Buffalo Bob doesn't live on this planet.

I forgot, Ray talks out his ass and thinks he makes sense.

Hillary has consistently been talking up the war moron! As president, she will not call the troops out of the ME. The Israeli lobby is a major supporter of hers. She's a New York senator. What more do you want?

Buttaboob, you don't know an ass from an elbow.

Ray

The war isn't 911 dipshit.

Boob
Oh. You're saying that because she wasn't in NYC on 9/11, that's supposed to mean something? WTF is that supposed to prove?

Ray

Giuliani is running on what a hero he was on 911. Hillary is not.

Get it dummy?

Without 911, giuliani is nothing. Running on 911 make giuliani as punk.

Hillary is not running on her actions on the day of 911. ]


Sinking in yet stupid?

John Edwards is too much of a woman. He can't even fight his own battles. He has to have his wife fight for him. What a disgusting wimp!

The real story here is that America is NOT even close to being ready for a woman to be president. Most of the "Hilarious" Clinton battles have come from Elizabeth Edwards and Michelle Obama. Why? Because the dumb Dems have set it up with their political correctness that ANY attack on a woman, even a political attack, is bad and demoralizing to women. Hillarious has proven she will play the gender card so you can't fight her at an even level. It's reverse sexism. Nice work PC libs. You just assured yourselves of Hillarious being the nominee whether you like it or not.

Let's go over this Boob.

You said: Giuliani runs on the blood of 911. No one else in the race on either side runs on the blood of 911.

So by some secret code that only you know, that's supposed to mean Guiliani is running on his actions following the attack of 9/11.

Has it sunk in stupid that you can't communicate?

LACK OF FAMILY VALUES CAMPAIGN 2008. The mudslinging will be unprecedented. Wear a helmet.

I add, because I know you are going to pick on it.

We know Guiliani is running on his actions following 9/11. So what? Almost every candidate supports an extended war with Iran.

You said: But I would much prefer her to someone who runs on the blood of 911.

They both support the same fucking war.

They might get energized, but then they short out . . .

" == Don't have 'Hillary Care,"' Romney said, referring to a favorite Democrat target, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He said he doesn't want to "have the guys who ran the Katrina cleanup" in charge of health care and would leave it up to states to design their own systems. ==

Romney appears to be saying that his administration's appointees would screw up the Katrina cleanup as badly as his predecessor's had.

zzzzitt!!

Translation: nominate Edwards, not Hillary.

She is desperate to become First Lady.

Front-running Hillary is hardly likely to energize the Repubs against her. Hillary is such a tepid centrist that she already has the lioness's share of corporocracy bucks. It isn't Repubs who need to be pacified, it's progressives who want a slightly more aggressive stand on such isues as peace in the Middle East, global warming, health care and eavesdropping on American citizens. herm

The real story here is that America is NOT even close to being ready for a woman to be president....

Posted by utastaff

At our senior center there is this senile old man who when asked about Bush, replied that Bush is a great president !

When I asked him about Hillery he said that a woman has no business being president !

And then how did he respond when I asked his opinion on Margaret Thatcher ? She was Great ! True story !

John Edwards, Bill Richardson, and Al Gore can win, if nominated. Hillarious and Obama, on the other hand, wil obviously lose if nominated. Democrats should really keep that reality in mind when voting in the primaries.

Not that I'd want Hillarious, even if she were electable....

The real story here is that America is NOT even close to being ready for a woman to be president....

Posted by utastaff

It should depend on the women. If America is not ready for any women to be president, then it shows the lack of brains of the electorate.

Anyone else think Dems might be running the wrong Edwards?

Ya sure do get that feeling reading through all the recent article where Elizabeth Edwards' name was in the headline and John's wasn't.

John Edwards, Bill Richardson, and Al Gore can win, if nominated. Hillarious and Obama, on the other hand, wil obviously lose if nominated.

Al Gore won't run. Bill Richardson don't have a chance.

The next Pres will be either Hill, Obama or Edwards.

Be Well.

"The next Pres will be either Hill, Obama or Edwards.

Be Well."

I may be unwell.

I may be unwell

Look on the bright side, El President Boosh may well yet declare himself POTUS fer Life after a false flag black op and then you won't have to worry about voting or decidering ever again.

Be Well.

If any Democrat or Republican (except Paul) becomes president, we're fucked - again.

I'll vote for Satan himself before I vote Hillary.

Whoever the GOP nomination, they will be light years better than another Clin-ton in office.

And then how did he respond when I asked his opinion on Margaret Thatcher ? She was Great ! True story !

Posted by YoMeLIB at 2007-09-01 02:51 PM | Reply

Uhh, Maggie was never president of anything.

As far as it "being time" for a woman president, what a stupid, Liberal comment. Women hold all sorts of positions of leadership in government, business, science and academics. Depends on their skills and personal motivation.

Liberals hate meritocracy, which does not reward professional victims.

democrats always define people by grievance group -- black, Hispanic, female, gay, etc. Just a bunch of self righteous racists.

You said: But I would much prefer her to someone who runs on the blood of 911.

They both support the same fucking war.

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-01 01:03 PM | Reply


Who said anything about the war moron. I said giuliani is running on the blood of 911. If you are too dense to figure out the "running on the blood of 911" means giuliani is running on his actions of that day and nothing else. don't blame me for your lame brain.

Hillary is not running on the blood of 911 and neither is anybody else. Here is a quote from Hillary as seen on another thread on this site which you either ignore or haven't read.


"Zeroing in Iraq, Letterman asked Clinton whether she believes there will be a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq."

"I hope not. That sure is not what I believe we should do," said Clinton. "There are no good options. That's one of the problems we have to just accept. But I think we need to begin to withdraw our troops now - bring them home, make it clear they're not going to continue to referee a civil war."

Giuliani is the only one running on the blood of 911. You're the only one too stupid to comprehend the meaning of that sentence.

Ruteger

Whoever the GOP nomination, they will be light years better than another Clin-ton in office.

Posted by Ruteger at 2007-09-01 06:15 PM

You need to spell it Clit-on to achieve the giant asshole status you seek.

Giuliani is the only one running on the blood of 911. You're the only one too stupid to comprehend the meaning of that sentence.

Yeah sure. Me and every other poster on this thread.

Ray

I doubt you speak for anyone but your own moronic self.

If you say so Bob. I'm a moron because "blood of 911" can have more than one meaning.

Ray

I see the problem.

The concept was:

"I hope I don't have to vote for her in the general election. But I would much prefer her to someone who runs on the blood of 911."


All you saw was---"blood of 911".



Probably brain damage from eating paint chips as a child.

If Hil can't win because of her negatives, negatives that she no doubt contributes to, but negatives that are primarily the direst result of honest to goodness VRWC money well spent over the past 15 years of Swift-boating Mrs. Clinton went through, and for the most part defeated, then that means that the GOP has been allowed to finally win that battle, defeating their Dem oppnents from within by making them beleive that their candidate is too soiled from their mostly baseless accuasations and insinuations for the last decase and a half to win a general elction.

This Clinton machine did beat the GOP twice in a row for the Presidency and Bush has made Bill Clinton look like genious, a hero fiscally at home and a good, strong partner internationally.

That left-over Clinton Fatigue could, given the quality of campaign and the so-far near-perfect performance of the candidate, and given that the GOP Southern and Evangel voting base has a truly unexciting choice for them between 2 social Librals and a faded old actor, er, Trial Lawyer..... and since there is still a year to go, Hil's negatives may go down and Obama's would most certainly rise given the kind of slur ridden campaign he would see..... maybe the same as Hil's by the election..... I think she may have the best chance to free America of these dangerous bumbling clowns.

We'll know in January, I understand, who the candidate will be.

If any of you know of any way of getting Dennis the K and Elizabeth the Red Giant elected, I'm all for it.

But otherwise, unless Obama shows some life, America may get a chance to prove that in Clinton III, the "buy one get one free" of the first campaign, now with a very popular Bubba as the two-fer, and particularly compared to Bush, his war, and the GOP Corruption/Scandal outbreaks, you may see the old Clinton Fatigue turn into a real nostalgia on the part of Americans for the Clinton's comparative competency.

decase and a half to win a general elction.

speeelchiker malfinctiun

"blood of 911" could apply to any politician who uses the blood of 911 as an excuse for war. If you read the thread, I followed with a retort that Hillary was all for the war too. Expressing ones self unambiguously is an art you don't possess. Instead of pounding me with insults, you could have clarified yourself. But it seems you are too infantile for that.

The next Pres will be either Hill, Obama or Edwards.

Be Well.

Posted by dethspud
* * * *

Care to make it interesting?

Actually I, and I think a majoprity of voters, woiuld elect Bill Clinton for President in a virtual landslide were he able to run in '08.

Electing Hil is as close as they are going to get to that prospect, possibly even getting the best of the deal in Hil, the good qualities of the last Clinton administrration without some of the bad.

If she gets a BJ in the Oval Office, it will make news on more than one level.

Ray

Instead of pounding me with insults, you could have clarified yourself. But it seems you are too infantile for that.

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-01 07:50 PM |

You started the insults moron. Now you want to whine about how the conversation turned out? If you don't like insults---don't start them.




I forgot. Buffalo Bob doesn't live on this planet.

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-01 12:06 PM



Hillary has consistently been talking up the war moron!

Buttaboob, you don't know an ass from an elbow.

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-01 12:21 PM




Here Boob, just for you.

"She wants permanent bases in Iraq and threatens war with Iran" Hillary Clinton, War Goddess

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Boob

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-01 12:28 PM



Let's go over this Boob

Has it sunk in stupid that you can't communicate?

Posted by Ray at 2007-09-01 12:44 PM | Reply

Has it sunk in yet that you started the insults and got your whiny little butt handed to you?

S:The next Pres will be either Hill, Obama or Edwards.

RiR:Care to make it interesting?

Gambling's a sin, RiR. Spud is shocked at you!

Spud is, however, interested in who you think the GOPhers three top contenders in terms of electability are.

Spud's guess there is Rudy, Romney and Paul.

Spud imagines Paul isn't on yer list fer some reason.

So wot's your list?

Do tell.

Be Well.

whiny little butt handed to you?



Unhand that whiney little butt this instant young man!

It should depend on the women. If America is not ready for any women to be president, then it shows the lack of brains of the electorate.

Posted by navyvet50



Navyvet ... keep in mind that you are responding to utastaff, which makes your post unecessary, regardless of its truth value.

Gambling's a sin, RiR. Spud is shocked at you!

Spud is, however, interested in who you think the GOPhers three top contenders in terms of electability are.

Spud's guess there is Rudy, Romney and Paul.

Spud imagines Paul isn't on yer list fer some reason.

So wot's your list?

Do tell.

Be Well.

Posted by dethspud
* * * *

Strictly speaking, gambling isn't a sin. It IS, however, a sin to make a bet and not pay it, as a certain DR poster did on the Lieberman Senate race---I'm still owed $1,000 from a "moderate" poster.

I don't have a list, just a prediction: Hillary wins the nomination, and anybody BUT Hillary wins the presidency. In that respect, I'm just a casual reader of the current polls.

I don't have a list, just a prediction: Hillary wins the nomination, and anybody BUT Hillary wins the presidency. In that respect, I'm just a casual reader of the current polls

Ao RiR is ABH then?

Anybody But Hill.

Wow, so then you agree with Elizabeth Edwards about the mystical power of Hill's "unfavorables" and her ability to rile up the GOPher base?

Spud thinks that's all over-blown but any port in a storm, eh?

Be Well.

Sounds like Edwards wife is conceding that Hillary is going to be the top front runner for her preferred party and is already getting ready for the Dem Convention. But the comment about those who will vote against Hillary is not all about hate for Ms Clinton, or the fact that Edwards hates Fox News, but her political viewpoints on where she wants to take this country. I would not vote for Hillary because of her politics.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm How isn't Gambling a Sin?? Isn't that the lust for money that drives a Gambler to gamble in the first place. Isn't it also gluttony the want for more riches. You can either have riches upon the earth(This would include Monitary riches) or You can have the riches in heaven. So I would declare Gambling to be a sinful act. BEFORE YOU spew something that I am making a judgement against a Gambler I myself play the lottery so I am just as guilty as the next Gambler that gambles in Las Vegas.

Larry

Larry and DethSpud-
re: "Strictly speaking, gambling isn't a sin. It IS, however, a sin to make a bet and not pay it."

Have you not heard "The New Epistle of Jesus" by the Moneychangers?

It's rockin'!

Good one Cooper. too funny.

Larry

Have you not heard "The New Epistle of Jesus" by the Moneychangers?

It's rockin'!

It's got a good beat and you can dance to it!

FF, btw.

Be Well.

PS: Really, really gone now.

S'rsly.

I think Mrs. Edwards just eliminated her husband from the V.P. spot.

Apparently she's never heard that old saying about burning one's bridges.

How isn't Gambling a Sin?? Isn't that the lust for money that drives a Gambler to gamble in the first place. Isn't it also gluttony the want for more riches. You can either have riches upon the earth(This would include Monitary riches) or You can have the riches in heaven. So I would declare Gambling to be a sinful act. BEFORE YOU spew something that I am making a judgement against a Gambler I myself play the lottery so I am just as guilty as the next Gambler that gambles in Las Vegas.

Larry

Posted by LarryMohr

* * * *

I dunno. I'm not a theologian. But I say, everything in moderation, and all that. The Bible has strong things to say about drunkards, but everyone drank wine--Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine, after all. It's not a sin to have a job, but it IS a sin to be a workaholic, and neglect your family. It's not a sin to have a piece of blueberry pie and ice cream, but it probably is to gorge yourself to the point where you're having to take vomit breaks, a la the Roman orgies.
And I don't think it's a sin to buy the occasional lottery ticket or play the occasional poker with your friends, but it IS a sin to blow your kids' college funds at the blackjack tables.
This view puts me well to the right of the libertines, and far to the left of the fundamentalist absolutists. Which probably means I'm right where God is. Just a guess, though--I admit.

With due respect, Elizabeth Edwards is wrong.

Hillary Hate? At this point in time that should be a badge of honor, considering it is coming from the same "conservative base" that fawns over Dubya and supports policies that have run this nation into the ground at home and abroad.

At its foundation, the hatred is based on a healthy dose of fear. Fear of the fact that the Clintons, time and time again, have beaten the best the GOP can throw at them.

Mark my words. This Hillary Hate also has a nasty fringe that will manifest itself once she is the nominee. An anti-woman bias entrenched in the consciousness of the Religious Right. This will create a backlash that will pull undecided people over into her camp.

Hillary in 08.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm How isn't Gambling a Sin??

Hmmmmmmm Jesus gambled with his life and lost. Does that make him a sinner?

You can either have riches upon the earth(This would include Monitary riches) or You can have the riches in heaven.

If anybody wishes to give away his wealth so he may go to heaven, I'm willing to sacrifice my soul and accept all donations.

I myself play the lottery so I am just as guilty as the next Gambler that gambles in Las Vegas.

No. Just a sucker. The odds are much better in Vegas.

I don't know if Elizabeth Edwards is speaking from careful analysis or from passion for her husband's run. It seems a bit out of line, but then ...

Hillary has said all of the right words to move from First Lady to Senator. But there is a tough past that she has yet to overcome, there is a mystery about what she really believes in her heart, and a lot of vitriol against all things Clinton, and in Hillary's she receives a special sort of vitriol.

Do people vote out of calculated analysis and understanding of the issues? Usually not. People vote for an image that makes them feel good. We have left the "informed electorate" in the miniscule minority with the vast majority viewing politics like a TV reality show. Today, the Madison Avenue of politics meets AdClick! Sizzle matters more than the meat, and if you can create a polarizing pall over your opponent, that sells as well as any sizzle.

At the end, whoever wins the internal contest in their party gets the nomination, and then both extremes battle for the inconsequential soul of the non-partisan "independents", who after the elections are treated as someone once posted here -- "the only thing you find in the middle-of-the-road around here is roadkill".

"This will create a backlash that will pull undecided people over into her camp."

Posted by FDR_Democrat

you mean the way the swiftboating did with Kerry in '04?

Not like there's going to be a verifiably fair election anyway (trade secret of electronic voting machine manufacturers.... end of story). Its kinda sad to see us all deluding ourselves on that issue at the DR.

Its also kinda sad that people won't hit the streets in protest when it happens because they'll be too busy with their holiday shopping.

Bow down before the one you serve... you're going to get what you deserve.
-TR

The bottom line for me is that during the Clinton years Political Correctness was codified into law. And the point of it is to turn the whole country into a bunch simpering wimps who will accept the status quo without complaint while they sell this country to the highest bidder.

My hope is that someone will release the cell phone video of Hillary punking Rudy with a strap on while Obama and Uncle Mitty engage in mutual masturbation.


End the insanity---Paul/Tancredo in 08.

Anyone else think Dems might be running the wrong Edwards?


Posted by rcade at 2007-09-01 08:58 AM |


LMAO

democrats always define people by grievance group -- black, Hispanic, female, gay, etc. Just a bunch of self righteous racists.

Posted by vernon at 2007-09-01 06:20 PM

That about sums it up. Class dismissed.

Class, what party holds Muslims as a grievance group? Don't cheat.

"grievance group -- black, Hispanic, female, gay,"

Yeah, how dare the gays demand something so ludicrous as equality?

Remind me...when is the Republican debate on gay issues?

every time she speaks something else becomes more and more obvious.

edwards is the biggest pussy in the race.....even againt hillary.

do we want a pres who has to have his old lady talk for him because he is too big of a pussy to say things like this about hillary..

and its also no surprize that I read libs all the time attacking the right because they dare to question her because of her illness.....and this is in the same low league as saying that you couldnt talk about max cleland because of his sacrifice..



if she runs her mouth, she cant then be untouchable because of her unfortunate illness....

and again.....if john wasnt such a pussy he wouldnt need his old to do his work for him........or maybe if he were elected, she could do all of the conferences while he visited the N.A.G. convention.

Good. One more GOP president and I think that will about do it for the end of amerika.


it will also mean my demise, but amerika is full of the arrongance that unchecked power breeds.

Its best for the world.

oh please....what a fuckin drama queen

... as someone once posted here -- "the only thing you find in the middle-of-the-road around here is roadkill".

Actually it was Jim Hightower, the last literate Texan, who said that the only thing in the middle of the road is dead armadillos and a yellow stripe. herm