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Thursday, August 30, 2007

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton will give to charity the $23,000 in donations she has received from a fundraiser who is wanted in California for failing to appear for sentencing on a 1991 grand theft charge.

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It's only Hsu money.

Of course, her opponents, the truly pure of heart, will want all Dems to seek out all people that gave money thru Hsu, to return their money, too.

Why? No reason. It will just sound "high and mighty", sactimony being so fulfilling.

But those people intended to give, and gave, honest money to the Dems thru Hsu. No need for a return, unless they asked and they would surely receive.


Republicans should learn a lesson from this, btw.

Next time one of them is caught in a public men's room getting/giving a BJ (Bubba Job) they should just return the 20 bucks, no problems.

Of course, her opponents, the truly pure of heart, will want all Dems to seek out all people that gave money thru Hsu, to return their money, too.

Agreed.

All the money's should go back.

Spud'll give Hill points fer dealing with this kafuffle in a fairly timely manner.

The practise of bundling needs to be looked into a bit more in general fer all the candidates in Spud's opinion.

It's a legal way to break the law in Spud's estimation.

Hopefully all the candidates will vet their contributors a little more closely after this.

Be Well.

-All the money's should go back

Why?


(Don't bogart that dandelion, mah friend, pass it over to me-e-e!)

I have a stranger view on this than I guess most other people do. If the politician did NOT know the guy was a crook at the time he/she took the donation, then I don't see why he/she has to return the donation. It looks phoney to scatter all around trying to return the money. Now, if the politicians DID KNOW the guy was a sleeze and took his corrupt money anyway -- that's a different story.


Hsu money (Shoe money!)..... c'mon!



I most unhumbly agree, Christopher.

Spud is right about bundling being very possibly abusive, but as long as it is legal, and as long as this money was given freely and intentionally to support Dems, there is no reason to proactively return it unless someone wanted it back.

-All the money's should go back

Why?


Merely to avoid even the whiff of impropriety.

Even if Hsu's money is legal the old charge and the new one in California make his money more of a liability than an asset to anyone's campaign.

Hillary is particularily succeptable to this "guilt by association" charge due to the long held belief by certain tin foil hat types on the right that the Clintons are in cahoots with the Chinese on a variety of assinine levels.

(Don't bogart that dandelion, mah friend, pass it over to me-e-e!)

PPP! Puff, Puff, Pass.

...'ere.

Be Well.


Whiffff,............Tanks! Ahhhhhh!!

Propriety. What a concept!

But we can't run our world based on what the tin foils fear. The offer should be made to return any money requested, but otherwise these Chinese Americans shouldn't be made to feel that their participation is somehow questionable....

here.... take this!



Propriety. What a concept!

Ha! Corky is paraphrse the immortal Robin Williams there.

Cork from Ork!

Na-nu Na-nu!

Be Well.

here.... take this!

Tanks to you.

And from the left hand side as well.

Corky knows!

Be Well.

Cork from Ork!

Na-nu Na-nu!

Reminds me of this guy...


www.youtube.com

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Wow what a surprise, the media gets a whiff of this and she gives the money back. I wonder if she would have had she known about this and the media didn't? That is the test of true character.

You know Rogers, for once, my headline was better than yours, punny though it might be.....


Clinton Gives Away Hsu Money

Shoe money, get it? She's a woman, shoes?

Ah, you people are hopeless!!

-I wonder if she would have had she known about this and the media didn't?

Any campaign of either party that found out their donor had potential legal problems would have acted.

Now, they wouldn't be required to give the money away, but in this case, it is obviously the best thing to do.

Next time one of them is caught in a public men's room getting/giving a BJ (Bubba Job) they should just return the 20 bucks, no problems.


Posted by Corky

Nice defelction Corky.

Oh c'mon, Wissy!

More funny than a deflection, huh, huh?

Corky, it seems funny that you, not RCADE posted this. If you think giving the money to charity 24 hours after her campaign came out with a statement claiming no foul, you better fasten your seatbelt.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, stung by criticism for accepting campaign contributions from a convicted felon with questionable fundraising practices, will donate the $23,000 he gave her to charity.
www.newsday.com

For the 2008 election, individuals can donate a maximum of $4,600 per candidate -- $2,300 for a primary election and $2,300 for a general election


Can anyone explain how Mr. Hsu has given Hillary $23,000 when the individual maximum is $4600?

The campaign statement said they didn't know about any problems. Obama's fundraiser praised Hsu. Many other Dems had money from him....

oh I see.... this was a huge VLWC to funnel illegal Chinese money to Dems, who all knew all about Hsu's 20 year old legal problem and were in a conspiracy to thwart campaign laws!

Is there an adjustment on that tin foil hat, or is it home made?

Here is how Talking Points Memo is referencing the Hsu story today:

The Hillary campaign will divest themselves of money from convicted fraud Norman Hsu -- but there are no plans yet from the Obama camp to do the same. That and other political news of the day in today's Election Central Morning Roundup.

--Eric Kleefeld

talkingpointsmemo.com

Do you see the FALSE implication in the above paragraph? Obama is supposed to return a donation from 3 years ago thats already been spent?

Hsu has NOT donated money to Obama's Presidential campaign, but no one could tell that from what was written above!

Can anyone explain how Mr. Hsu has given Hillary $23,000 when the individual maximum is $4600?

The silence is deafening....

Tony,

One assumes that was over a period of years, including her Senate race, where he donated to her as well as Obama.

$4600 would be an annual limit I assume.

Keep digging though. Maybe you can find a way to continue to use this story to bash Hil.


Funny, Hil can find the money to give away from previous years but Obama cannot?

Odd.

He (Hsu) became a trustee at the New School and was elected to the Board of Governors of Eugene Lang College there. He endowed a scholarship in his name at the college and was co-chairman of a benefit awards dinner in 2006 that featured Mrs. Clinton, who had secured a $950,000 earmark for a mentoring program at the college for disadvantaged city youths.

This story is far from over.

Obama Won't Return Money From Same Donor
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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, stung by criticism for accepting campaign contributions from a convicted felon with questionable fundraising practices, will donate the $23,000 he gave her to charity.


"In light of the new information regarding Mr. Hsu's outstanding warrant in California, we will be giving his contributions to charity," said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. "We regularly review contributions as we receive them," he said, adding that "we will continue our practice of scrutinizing contributions and, should we have a basis to return a contribution, we will do so."...

...Hsu also made donations to the Illinois senatorial campaign of Barack Obama in 2004. Yesterday, spokesman Jen Psaki said Obama, who has criticized Clinton for taking contributions that could undermine her independence, had no plans to return Hsu's donations.

www.huffingtonpost.com

Hsurely Obama will want to divest himself of these tainted funds, eh?

Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer said the $23,000 included contributions from Hsu to Clinton's presidential campaign, her Senate re-election and her political action committee.

Found the answer right above. No, $4600 is the limit for this Presidential cycle, not an annual limit.

Funny, Hil can find the money to give away from previous years but Obama cannot?

Who said they couldn't Corky, me? Sorry, I'm not an authority on Obama's finances anymore than you are with Hillary's.

Obama is still outraising Hillary regardless of what the polls say. I think they can scrap up the loose change if necessary to donate it to charity.

Why are you reposting things I've already posted?

Don't get exited, Tony.

"Funny, Hil can find the money to give away from previous years but Obama cannot?"

did not address you.

I posted a story with a link.

Can anyone explain why the democrats get so much tainted money from the Chinese, Hellary seems to be carrying on the family ways!!

Corky...

You really can't see how this undermines the personna Hillary is trying to create around herself, can you?

Maybe the people in Iowa do:

Democrats
Edwards 29
Clinton 24
Obama 22
Richardson 11
Biden 5
time-blog.com

And this poll was taken BEFORE the Hsu controversy broke!

How did he earn the title, "HillRaiser" if she is donating only $23K to charity?

I think that is a self-retorting retort, TR.

If the poll was before the news, how could it have affected the poll?

Don't you think Obama refusing to go to the same lengths as Hil to divest himself of this money undermines the persona he is trying to create for himself?
(lol!)

Hey, you had all the fun yesterday, today is my turn!

Corky aren't you being a little intellectually dishonest? Hsu never gave to Obama's presidential campaing, he contributed almost 3 years ago to Obama's senate campaing.

Obama isn't going to take the heat for this it is Hillary and her politi-Co. machine. More of the same from the Washington insider.

OK, so this guy has been living a 'public life'. What's with the cops that they couldn't find him? He wasn't hiding! As for the politicians...how could they be held accountable for this guy's actions back in 1991? I think it is commendable that they are giving the money to charity and that should be the end of it. Personally, I would like to see all this fundraising and these HUGE amounts of money that are spent on political campaigns stopped. Let the government give each candidate x-amount of dollars..same amount for each person...and let the candidates work with that money ONLY. No more special interests. No more PAC. And no more 2 year campaigns! How many of us are sick to death already of the 2008 election?! LOL!

wow.....yesterday hillary and obama get this on thier back and today it is reported from a newspaper in havana that castro has now endorsed a clinton/ obama ticket saying that they both "
felt the sacred duty of demanding a democratic government in cuba"

and that translated means they are all for his socialist, murderering reign to continue....

he also call bill friendly and intelligent and he said that carter was the only president who was not "an accomplice to terrorism in cuba"

and with those statments you can see why dems and socialists just go together........add that to crooks and fugitives from justice sending them money.....


wow.......thats two great frontrunners, isnt it????????????????????

Hil is returning money from both her Pres and Senate campaigns, as I understand it.

To be honest, I don't care what Obama does, I'm just returning a hard time to TR.

BLV (Bacon, Lettuce and Viagra)

I think maybe Fidel meant that Jimmah was the only one that didn't try to do him in.

Hil and Obama would be a winning ticket, and even that old fart knows it.



How many of us are sick to death already of the 2008 election?! LOL!

Posted by DawnGlo at 2007-08-30 10:29 AM | Reply | F


this is a wonderfull point......

isnt there a state now that is even looking into voting THIS JAN????

and new hampshire or somewhere has a law that they have to have thiers a minimum of 7 days prior to anyone else and so it automatically gets pushed up each time another state does theirs...

we could have two candidates going after each other for a almost a full year............UGH!
talk about political fatigue........even for political sluts LIKE YOU.....and me, of course........

yeah corky.......do him in....and to hell with the political prisoneers and murdered who dared to live a free life.........

and just because I know the "viva viagra" song doesnt mean that I use it...........yet!

Really, whats the deal with Clintons and Chinese money. Now the money is even being recalled. She is as low and scummy as the worst politicians.

Don't you think Obama refusing to go to the same lengths as Hil to divest himself of this money undermines the persona he is trying to create for himself?

The same lengths? You must be joking! Hsu was in Hillary's inner circle of fundraisers, perhaps her most prolific one. He promised to raise over $100,000 for her this cycle as an exclusive "Hillraiser".

Was he doing these things for Obama? Of course not! He donated to his Senatorial campaign in 2004.

You are doing precisely what you accuse others of doing: unjustly linking a candidate for the sake of naked insinuation, not based on the facts already in evidence.

Hsu didn't hold fundraisers for Obama, he held them for Hillary. Hsu didn't bundle money for Obama, he bundled money for Hillary. Singular donations aren't the problem, its the cumulative donations and fundraising efforts undertaken by a convicted felon with easy access to the candidate and an autographed glossy showing the two of them together posted all over the internet thats the problem.

No such picture exists with Senator Obama nor do they have a close working relationship. Apples and oranges....

-You must be joking!

Maybe that's why I typed lol! after that sentence. I was joking. Kind of.

I just mentioned the poor perception this might cause of Obama, trying to be as concerned about that as you were for Hil. (LOL!)


and that translated means they are all for his socialist, murderering reign to continue....

he also call bill friendly and intelligent and he said that carter was the only president who was not "an accomplice to terrorism in cuba"

and with those statments you can see why dems and socialists just go together........add that to crooks and fugitives from justice sending them money.....


wow.......thats two great frontrunners, isnt it????????????????????

Posted by bushlovertwo


My grammar and punctuation checker would likely explode if that drivel were to pass through it.

Yes, the occasional typo is unavoidable, but a consistent stream of nonsense is revealing, isn't it? But, it provided a light chuckle, as most of BL2's stream of unconsciouness rants do.

BL2, you may be right ...I think Hillary actually made a speech in favor of socialist murder at some point in the past, but only if it supports terror, and is paid for by crooks a fugitives from justice.

Maybe Mr. Hsu was just looking for a pardon if Hillary was elected.

I have a problem with the money being given to charity. It's dirty money. Give it back to the donor.

I'd wonder if the charities give some kickback (nice statements of support) from the nice gesture of giving up dirty money.

NEW YORK (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton Thursday defended her campaign's efforts to investigate the backgrounds of its fundraisers after it was disclosed that one of her top money-raisers is wanted on a felony fraud charge in California.
Clinton also sidestepped questions of whether she would return the money the fundraiser, Norman Hsu, brought in, saying the campaign would analyze the contributions and "take action if that's warranted."

That's rich. If see has a problem getting this story straight, how in the world is she going to handle issues a President faces?

Of course Dorky is front and center, first guy to post and deflecting away from Hillary the entire time. Barack Obama, Larry Craig, blah, blah blah. Do you ever get tired of being Hillary Clinton's bitch?

just where did all this money hsu gave to shrillary originate?

to me that is the great unasked question


Hey Joe...

eat me.

Nice analysis of the article, btw, we always enjoy your insightful political view.

more news from the all mighty and all knowing and "perfectly perfect" socialist democrat party candidates and supporters.......


not only are we fiinding out who is supporting hillary in this country but now we read that she has the endorsement of fidel castro.......wow.....what an all american girl she is.....
another story just out that she has already told bill that he wont be the vp

and I still want to know what happened with all the money that she ISNT giving to charity....he was said to be in the 100,000 dollar club but she is only giving back 23,000.........


and looky looky at this.....

america coming together.......bankrolled by george soros was fined $775,000 by the federal election commission for violating campaign laws during the 2004 presidential election.........
where is the outrage
where is the demand for heads to roll

oh yeah its a little bitty square on page 7


and more from the sainted socialist democrats....


max clelan suspended his chief of staff after the man crashed an edwards fundraiser and broke into a nearby coast guard station and charged with pot possession and breaking and entering. he also is said to have an extensive criminal history including carjacking and DRUG DEALING.......

HIS CHIEF OF STAFF..............and why is this important.

because if these were republicans...........IT WOULD BE FROM ONE END OF THE TV TO THE OTHER AND BLOG AFTER BLOG and the left would be having orgasms over the thought of another republican....

and here.........again.....a small square at the back of the first section......


and midiman.........what you are seeing in my post is the result of LIBERAL education......where you dont have to spell correctly or use puncuation as long as the point is understood.......and dont think for a second that its not like that in many classrooms across the country......a legacy of liberal education.........

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