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After Kevin returned from Iraq, he spent most nights lying awake in his Army barracks in Hawaii, clutching a 9mm handgun under his pillow, bracing for an attack that never came. His fits of sleep brought nightmares of the wounded and dying troops whom Kevin, a combat medic, had treated over 16 months after suicide attacks and roadside bombings. Less than two years after he returned, Kevin became homeless. His tailspin encapsulates a consequence of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As more troops return from deployments, social workers and advocates expect the number of homeless to increase, flooding the nation's veterans' shelters, which are already overwhelmed by homeless veterans from other wars.

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Cracks? Or chasms? The number of stories about returned soldiers not receiving the assistance they need and deserve has been like an ongoing avalanche. These are not cracks they are falling into. These are chasms, deep and wide.

Well, once the Military Industrial Complex is done using people for their own ends, they don't give a fuck what happens to them. Just recruit more and hope they die over there so they won't have to be taken care of. It's not surprising.

Where Is That Great American Sean Hannity Now

-SARGE

What happened to all that training they are supposed to recieve? The commercials make it sound like you have a BA if survive your tour.If nothing else they make it sound like employers are just licking their chops to get someone who served. Here is what I have noticed. If an NCO comes out of 20 years in the service, the only time they are employed successfully is if they are in a state or federal job situation.(army depot, post office , VA hospital etc) It seems when they have to bob and weave to get the job done they just can't handle the way civilians do it.

If there's one thing this country should be ashamed of...it's how we treat our veterans. it's absolutely disgraceful, and i ask everyone here to contact the USO and similar organizations to try and help these vets and their families.

Semper Fi.

...A woman who worked at a homeless shelter wanted to know if she would go to jail for helping the homeless if HR 4437 [tightening of laws re illegal aliens] became law. She had read the article Catholic Church & Charities ~ Preach and Practice Sedition in which Cardinal Mahony seditiously calls for defiance of HR 4437 [2006 proposed House legislation to tighten rules on services for illegal immigrants] if enacted and spoke about Cardinal McCarrick and the Catholic bishops who regularly engage in 'aiding and abetting' illegal aliens, which is a felony.

(1) The woman found the information useful but it didn't answer one important question for her. She wanted to know if they would be doing something illegal once HR 4437 was enacted. She wondered "if we are going to be arrested, for TEMPORARILY housing, clothing and feeding illegal immigrants. Now, we do not ask our clients (the homeless men) if they can provide proof of citizenship . . . we simply try our best to accommodate those who come to the shelter seeking help."

How many U.S. military veterans on sleeping on the streets because the homeless shelters are taking care of illegal immigrants instead of them?

Almost 1/2 of the rent subsidy program -- Section 8 Housing -- in California is given to illegal aliens who can qualify by having just one anchor baby in the household. How many of our U.S. veterans with only a low paying job could have found an apt. using Section 8 subsidies but instead are sleeping on the streets because the subsidies are given to illegal immigrants instead? 15 illegal aliens with one anchor baby can all qualify as one household eligible for federal Section 8 housing. How many military veterans could bunk together after finding an apt. using Section 8 subsidies until they could get back on their feet but instead are denied getting the Section 8 rental subsidies by illegal immigrants getting them instead.

Start taking care of our own FIRST -- particularly our military veterans.

Unless they are being target practice in Iraq, the republithugs don't care about vets.

What do those "Support the troops" bumper stickers mean??? Obviously, not very much.

And the answer to the problem is??? Don't just find problems, come up with solutions.

I've got a solution. THROW EVERY REPUBLICAN OUT OF OFFICE IN 11/08!!! It can't make things any worse.

this is so typical of you people.....

you get on one of these rants and use it for all sorts of shit......


there is nothing more important than taking care of the vets after they serve and more can always be done.

one thing I would do is stop every homeless person you ever see on the corner and ask them what unit they were in and service and all that.....

were they really vets or are they just sponging off of your sympathies because I cant recall the last bum on a corner who DIDNT have a sign that said they were a homeless vet..........

and so now jump my ass for being so 'insensitive' because I dont give a shit.......I am sick and tired of stopping at the same corner and having the smelly bum with the fake crutch ask me for money......not when he has a smoke in his mouth and a FUCKIN CELL PHONE........so take care of the vets who need help..........but make sure they are really vets....

So now BL2 thinks that homeless vets are really just sponges pretending to be vets? You are truly a piece of shit bl2. Anything to avoid accepting responsibility for the way you Prez has crapped upon the American veteran.

So now BL2 thinks that homeless vets are really just sponges pretending to be vets? You are truly a piece of shit bl2. Anything to avoid accepting responsibility for the way you Prez has crapped upon the American veteran.

God bless you BL2 for your kindess and consideration for your fellow man. I'm sure he has a special place for you in heaven.

I've got a solution. THROW EVERY REPUBLICAN OUT OF OFFICE IN 11/08!!! It can't make things any worse.

Posted by moder8

How will that fix the homeless vet deal?

So now BL2 thinks that homeless vets are really just sponges pretending to be vets? You are truly a piece of shit bl2. Anything to avoid accepting responsibility for the way you Prez has crapped upon the American veteran.

Posted by moder8

mod, wou are truly fitting the mold. Name calling and spouting crap that BL2 never said. Get a grip man. There are homeless beggers out there that make over $50k per year and no taxes. They are screwing it up for the rest. Hell, one bag lady in Cleveland has a limo take her to beg every morning.

We do need to do something for the vets, please tell me what without cussing the President or calling me a name.

I've got a solution. THROW EVERY REPUBLICAN OUT OF OFFICE IN 11/08!!! It can't make things any worse.

Posted by moder8

How will that fix the homeless vet deal?

They Are The Ones Who Cut Veteran Benefits !

Support for Troops Questioned
Democrats Detail Bush's Cuts in Military Family Benefits

www.washingtonpost.com

FUCK NEOCONS !!!!

-Sarge


There are homeless beggers out there that make over $50k per year and no taxes. They are screwing it up for the rest. Hell, one bag lady in Cleveland has a limo take her to beg every morning.
-Posted by Sniper



NewsMax no Doubt, or just plain speculation...................
......


What is your solution zap?


What is your solution zap?

Posted by Sniper



For every $50K bum you find on the street I'll wager there are 100 or more screwed up vets. Better to comfort the afflicted than sweat the scumbags.

If we have BILLIONS for a war of choice we should be able to take care of the poor.

For every $50K bum you find on the street I'll wager there are 100 or more screwed up vets. Better to comfort the afflicted than sweat the scumbags.

If we have BILLIONS for a war of choice we should be able to take care of the poor

Posted by Zap

And how is that going to fix the problem? I do know vets and many have problems. The company I work for is trying to hire some of them, what are you doing?

Throwing money at them has not worked in the past. LBJ's war on poverty has cost us billions and we have as many poor today as we did in the 50s before he started his ileagl war on poverty and on Viet Nam. I know he didn't start Viet Nam but he dreamed up the Tonkin Gulf deal to suck us in deep.

Are You Really a Veteran?

Rep. Steve Buyer is redefining your status

Opinion by Larry Scott

Are you really a veteran? Better check it fast. I did. I've got my DD-214 that says "honorable discharge." I've got the red-white-and-blue VA identification card complete with lousy picture and the "service-connected" rating. So, I must be a veteran. Right? Not if Rep. Steve Buyer (R-IN), chairman of the House Veterans' Affairs Committee, has his way.

Buyer is trying to rewrite the definition of "veteran" in a cold and calculated manner that could cost millions of veterans their benefits. Buyer recently won a political tug-of-war and replaced Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ) as chairman of HVAC. Smith was known as a true friend of veterans and often broke ranks with his party to forward legislation favorable to the veteran community.

www.vawatchdog.org

The GOP Does Not Support The Troops !!

-Sarge


Throwing money at them has not worked in the past.


Money won't feed them, money won't house them, money won't supply heath care?

Some won't be productive regardless of how much is spent on them.

Get over it.

Throwing money at them has not worked in the past. LBJ's war on poverty has cost us billions and we have as many poor today as we did in the 50s before he started his ileagl war on poverty and on Viet Nam. I know he didn't start Viet Nam but he dreamed up the Tonkin Gulf deal to suck us in deep.

Posted by Sniper

I know the answer to that one...


MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!

That fixes everything-doesn't it snipper?

"MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!

That fixes everything-doesn't it snipper?"

Bush Thinks So:

Bush opposes pay raise for troops, wants tax cuts for rich

pressesc.com

The NEOCONS Do Not Support The Troops !!

-Sarge

"We do need to do something for the vets, please tell me what without cussing the President or calling me a name."
Posted by Sniper at 2007-08-12 08:04

YEAH!

Funny thing is ----- why aren't you asking that very question to the only one (ie the "commander in chief" of our armed service) who can make that happen?!

I mean, you seem to ask everyone that question --- except the one that really counts!

They are screwing it up for the rest. Hell, one bag lady in Cleveland has a limo take her to beg every morning.


Snipe

Are you sure about that? I thought that one lived in Brentwood.

Snipe, if you believe there is a woman who takes a limo to go out and beg every morning, I got a bridge in Brooklyn you can buy.

It is probably Philadelphia, and the story is about the "Duck Lady."

When the Duck Lady died, the truth came out. She was an impoverished, homeless bag lady. The mansion, limo, and family were all inventions in the face of an intolerable truth: That a harmless old woman with a disabling mental illness would be forced to live on the streets. That nobody had the slightest idea how to help her.

Poignant lesson - and relevant to our homeless Vets.

More money is not always the solution but the truth is, it takes money to things done. There are all kinds of government aid/resources available to start a new business. One could argue it's a big waste of tax dollars, knowing that 90% of small businesses fail in the first three years. Yet, we continue to support small business, if only for that 10% that do succeed.

"if only for that 10% that do succeed."

Posted by Miscellany


That's all you get even if you're lucky.

Just got to this thread for the first time, so excuse me for not reading all posts and if this has been said before:

They wouldn't fall throught the cracks if they'd eat and put on some weight! duh

Per Goatman: They wouldn't fall throught the cracks if they'd eat and put on some weight! duh

Ha Ha Ha. That is so funny. Let's have a contest. Who can tell the best joke about homeless people.

"Let's have a contest. Who can tell the best joke about homeless people."

I wasn't joking.

GOATMAN

Don't forget your
PASS otherwise your keepers might not let you out tonight.

Unfortunately, at least in my area, most of the services available are set up to favor women and children, esp. the religious and non-profit. For example, we have a grand domestic abuse shelter that is simply fantastic - the gated property includes a built-in day care center, large bedrooms, rec area with exercise equipment, large screen TV, private family rooms, playground equipment, on-site counseling and parenting classes, etc. However, if a man needs their services, the shelter sends them to a hotel and foots the bill.

"Don't forget your PASS otherwise your keepers might not let you out tonight."

I don't get it



I don't get it

Posted by goatman



Indeed

"Don't forget your PASS otherwise your keepers might not let you out tonight."

I don't get it

Posted by goatman at 2007-08-12 10:32 PM |


Well, you probably didn't get it because I was a dumbass who posted that picture of the military's liberty pass to Marilyn's in Subic Bay on the WRONG thread. I'll try better next time.

No brothel can match the services offered at Marilyn's in Subic City. Three dollar blow jobs. Of course, that was back in tehe '70s. It'd probably be $5 now if the base was still open.

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Posted by goatman at 2007-08-11 03:27 PM | Reply

There are homeless beggers out there that make over $50k per year and no taxes. They are screwing it up for the rest. Hell, one bag lady in Cleveland has a limo take her to beg every morning.

It's possible, I suppose, there may be one or two fraudulently making this much, but a limo? Come on. How can you believe this shit? Do you hear it from an especially looney tunes right wing radio ranter, so it must be true?

Let's say there are a few. Are you using them to justify leaving thousands of vets suffering from PTSD out on the street with no help at all while you justify it by ranting on about these few, if they even exist at all? I swear I'll never understand your particular sub species of Republican, forever ranting on about socialism or communism. Do you feel victimized by those less fortunate than you or something?

$50,000 divided by 365 is about $140 per day. Does it seem likely to you that anybody can beg for and get this much every day for 365 days?

"Well, you probably didn't get it because I was a dumbass who posted that picture of the military's liberty pass to Marilyn's in Subic Bay on the WRONG thread. I'll try better next time."

I read the "Marilyns super inn" but the rest was too small for my frail eyes. I suspected it was from there, but not being able to read it, i wasn't sure.

I have a business card of theirs in my keepsake box. I haven't seen it in 25 years, but I think it says something to the effect of "Marilyns: HOme of the number one cocksuckers in the phillipines." When I get home (won't be for a few weeks, though) I'll scan and post it. I'd like to see it again.

I haven't seen the liberty pass thing. Thanks for the memories.

"$50,000 divided by 365 is about $140 per day. Does it seem likely to you that anybody can beg for and get this much every day for 365 days?"

In the early '80s I still lived in the Big D area. I remember seeing a news show on channel 8. A reporter surreptitiously watched a panhandler on Elm St and what was being put in his cup for a whole day. He estimated that he brought in $250/day. Doubtful he did that 365 days a year since the business would be slow on weekend and holidays, but that ain't bad wages.

I have a business card of theirs in my keepsake box. I haven't seen it in 25 years, but I think it says something to the effect of "Marilyns: HOme of the number one cocksuckers in the phillipines."

Posted by goatman at 2007-08-12 11:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I don't get it
Posted by goatman

Indeed
Posted by Zap at 2007-08-12 10:40 PM "



I don't get this either, Zap, but I sense you had your sniffling nose in the air as you typed it.

That's the one! That's exactly it. Down to the exact color. Mine looks exactly like it. I forgot about the reverse side. Thanks - this saved me a trip up into the attic and digging through the old Navy treasure chest.

Damn, Goatman

I remember it as 3 per bj and 2 for jeepney ride from Olongapo

RIght -- $3 for bj, but the jeepney ride was much less than $2. It seems it was a peso or two. WHen I was there it was about 7 Pesos per dollar. That was 1975 and 1976

Ted -- remember the posters on the walls? Each ship had their own poster and you always signed your name on your ship's poster after your blow job? The Marines had their units instead of ships. I have some photographs at home of these posters. I'll have to scan and post those (no need to do that for the card anymore thanks to CC) when I get home.

Remember the rooms with just sheets dividing them so they could get more people in? Sometimes we'd just all go in the same room if it was a busy night.

Did you ever do the 12 hours? I did a couple of times. Both times they brought fish heads and rice in the next morning for breakfast.

And that nasty ass bathroom! Of course all the johns in all the Subic City and Olongapo bars were like this.

Ahh fond memories.

I'll never forget my first time to Marilyn's. I was just 19 YO and just out of boot camp. I had never been outside of N Texas or S Oklahoma in my life. Another sailor took me there. THe first thing I saw was a sailor laying face up across the table with his pants at his ankles getting a blow job. I was so flabbergasted. I think I said something stupid like, "They don't do this in Texas".

Did you ever get the "fire and ice"? The one that took two girls. One was sipping hot tea, the other eating ice or ice cream and they alternated on you? I got one of those sitting at the bar.

My favorite. Ever play Smile there? *grin*

You have exposed yourself for the low life piece of shit you are.
I suppose that is your definition of a man.
You have very low personal standards.
Your mommy teach you that?

I knew when I brought up the things that I have seen WITH MY OWN EYES and it would bring condemnation from the liberal putz's who thrive on attacking the messenger if the message isnt to thier liking..........


NewsMax no Doubt, or just plain speculation...................
......




Posted by Zap at 2007-08-12 08:15 PM


ZAP.........I have sat at the red light and watched the SAME GUY walking off of the corner with his leg brace in one hand and a crutch and get on his bike and PEDAL away......and sure that he might be able to do that even though he stands leaning on the crutch and walks to get money handouts as if he is about to fall over.

and once when he was sitting in front of the corner store I heard him say.....YEAH I GOT MY PHONE BACK....and I looked over and saw him ON THE CELL PHONE...........and a pack of smokes to his right and on my way out he had the NERVE to beg me for money........

smokes and a phone and he says he wants me to feed him...bullshit.......the only thing I did was complain to the manager that if I had to keep walking through bum's row outside I would take my BUSINESS elsewhere........call that what you will because I dont care...


and on his sign it says.......

homeless vet.....please help..

I guess he needs some more money for the marlboroughs and better phone service.........



and do people who give him money AND MAKE ME MISS THE LIGHT SOMETIMES>.....understand that when you give him money like that, that you ensure that he will be there tomorrow instead of doing something to get himself out of that situation??????????????

NO of course not......you liberal do gooders FEEL GOOD about giving him a dollar and then I have to keep stepping over him while he talks on his FUCKIN CELL PHONE as he waits on you suckers tomorrow..........

this is one case that I see EVERY FRICKING DAY.......

the ones who need help and CANT HELP Themselves, lets spend more money to help them............

Martin Sheen helped ALL the homeless. He spent a night on the sidewalk once. Lovely man...like most leftists, he feels their pain. That helps them a lot, doesn't it? Oh, well, at least Owlgore donated $353 to charity once. If not for our little leftist-socialist friends, the homeless wouldn't get ANYTHING. Many thanks to Martin Sheen and the others who REALLY care.

NO of course not......you liberal do gooders FEEL GOOD about giving him a dollar and then I have to keep stepping over him while he talks on his FUCKIN CELL PHONE as he waits on you suckers tomorrow..........

How Is He Going To Get A call Back For A Job If He Does Not have A House Phone, Since He Does Not Have A House To Put It In?

-Sarge

Owlgore donated $353 to charity once

Once is correct - in 1997. Feel free to ignore that thousands he's donated before and after that year though. For instance, the year before, 1996 they gave $35,530.

Then again, in 1997 he had two daughters enrolled at Harvard University and a son in a private secondary school. Things might have been a little tight on the "charitable" side in 1997 for the Gores.

Imagine that.

"Then again, in 1997 he had two daughters enrolled at Harvard University and a son in a private secondary school. Things might have been a little tight on the "charitable" side in 1997 for the Gores."

Oh, lordy...my heart goes out to the Gores in their "tight" time. Maybe I'll contribute something to their electric bill there in Nashville to make up for my gaff.

"How Is He Going To Get A call Back For A Job If He Does Not have A House Phone, Since He Does Not Have A House To Put It In?"

Not only that, Sarge, but he'll need the phone to keep up on how Social Services is doing on his application for SSI and food stamps.

"Homeless Vets Fall Through the Cracks"

I don't see how this is possible. My vet charges top dollar when we bring our Bischon Frise in.

Hell, between the vet visits, boarding and grooming that sucker is costing me a small fortune!!

You people have to figure out that both Sniper and BushLover2 are trolls for the Republican National Committee. Why is the process called "trolling?" Because, like hapless fish, you rise to the bait every time!

Oh, lordy...my heart goes out to the Gores in their "tight" time.

Conveniently ignored the $35,530 he year before I see. Your deflection was shown for what it is, crap. You took one point in their lives and tried to generalize it to a pattern that didn't exist. Then you deflect to their power bill - a bill that is twice as high/kw hour because they buy only green energy. Another disingenuous way of presenting an argument.

You want a pattern? Look at your own post history.

Hell, one bag lady in Cleveland has a limo take her to beg every morning.


Posted by Sniper at 2007-08-12 08:04 PM | Reply

You got any proof to support this or is this just more right wing bullshit like Raygun's Cadillac driving welfare queen story?

I do have to say that this is a new level of bullshit from the right.... at least make it a lexus or bmw, but a limo?

C'mon now who you trying to shit?

the ones who need help and CANT HELP Themselves, lets spend more money to help them............

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-08-13 09:15 AM | Reply

"Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.

"Then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

"The King will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

The right wing bible....

"Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you told me to leave you alone, I was thirsty and you called me a bum, I was a stranger and you locked the doors of your car, I needed clothes and you told me to get a job and better myself, I was sick and you told me to wait in the emergency room, I was in prison and you prepared the lethal injection.

You people have to figure out that both Sniper and BushLover2 are trolls for the Republican National Committee.

Posted by john47

joh, I don't even belong to the republican party but if that is what you wish to think then feel free to do that.

Bernake better not be hanging out at GWB's dude ranch and figure out how they are going to lend money again to the American public at large, or a large percentage of homeowners are going to be homeless- vet or no vet.

"You have exposed yourself for the low life piece of shit you are.
I suppose that is your definition of a man."

No, that was the definition of a young sailor, more than 200 miles away from home for the first time in his life and cutting loose.

"You have very low personal standards."

How do you know? Have we met somewhere that I am aware of and I did something to you to make you come to that conclusion?

"Your mommy teach you that?"

hmm. Good question. 19 years irrational control and forced attendance of church kind of made me want to cut loose after I got away. She didn't actually teach me that, but she taught me that I didn't want what I had had for 19 years so when something different appeared in my life I pounce on it.

This is really depressing.

Here is a thread on homeless vets and all the "Big Glory Military" guys like BLT, Sniper and GoatFuck can talk about is to attack homeless and anyone who disparages Republicans. I guess soon Goatman will live up to his name and start talking about how he fucked goats in Subic during his tour there.

Goatman what's better to fuck? Goats, Sheep or Phillipino She-Males?

"GoatFuck can talk about is to attack homeless and anyone who disparages Republicans. "

You've lost me. Where have I spoken about any of this.

Clueless as usual. . .

ah Goatfuck you little comment about how much money homeless make from the news report? ever wonder if it was a litle staged to get people like you to stop feeling sorry for the homeless?

But I also apologize Goatfuck. I should have explictly separated you for talking about your she-male adventures in Subic.

"We sure don' fuck little brown boys back in Texas. But hey I'm not in Texas anymo' we're in Subic! Can I suck him off too?"

"ever wonder if it was a litle staged to get people like you to stop feeling sorry for the homeless? "

Typical liberal. Look for a conspiracy in everything. Doesn't it get tiresome?

You really seem to be enjoying making up this shemale, "can I suck him off too?" stuff. Hope you didn't get too much jizz on your keyboard.

TBoI

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