I guess it will take the conservatives about two seconds to forget this accomplishment, or claim it for themselves.

CONGRESS. ETHICS.


OXYMORON.

Tukeys Pass Make Thanksgiving Vegetarian Bill.

Great idea but no chance of happening as well.

"""This bill isn't nearly as tough as it would have been on earmarks if Republicans had been involved in writing it," McConnell said. "But weighing the good and the bad, many provisions are stronger than current law.""

What a lying piece of crap. They had six years of total control and did nothing but eliminate any semblance of ethics. These REpublican liars think most Americans are too stupid to remember just one year ago. Unfortunately, they are probably right.
How else could you explain their ability to get elected??

If not for the rousing speech from Teddy Kennedy, this bill would have had no chance. I think he mentioned it in his speech concerning water rescues at the site of the Minnesota bridge!

Oh, that's right...if he had witnessed the accident, 911 would be getting a call about right now!!

Tukeys Pass Make Thanksgiving Vegetarian Bill.

Great idea but no chance of happening as well.
Posted by odie1kanobe at 2007-08-03 09:55 AM


YEAH!

Especially now that the fox finally found his veto stamp that had been lost in the cracks of the sofa for the last six years!

Bet'cha bush vetos the bill......

""I think he mentioned it in his speech concerning water rescues at the site of the Minnesota bridge!""

Oh, making crap up about Kennedy. How original.

In the real world though the sack of shit president did use the disaster in Minnesota to attack Democrats and hint that somehow their slowness in approving bills in Congress is to blame for this disaster. *
Bush exhibited such coldness towards the victims by his opportunistic attack on Democrats that it should outrage anyone with an ouce of sympathy for the victims.

Bribery remains legal and is likely to remain so until advertising in the public interest is returned to the public domain.

Speaking of Ethics, looks like Rep. Jefferson will get off, even though they found $90,000 in his freezer.....court is deciding, 'raid' was illegal....

Another Dem criminal walks.....i'm sure he had the same lawyer as Sandy Burgler....

Oh, making crap up about Kennedy. How original.

Hey, we have Bush, you have Kennedy...fair is fair..lol!

By the way, Bill Jefferson is from my district....see what I have to live with???

When was Kennedy President again? When was he CIC?
When did he so badly bungle the management of a war that 75% of teh Country disagree with him?

What a lying piece of crap. They had six years of total control and did nothing but eliminate any semblance of ethics.

Posted by danni at 2007-08-03 10:19 AM | Reply

ENGLISH TRANSLATION: Republican politicians are money whores. Therefore Democrat money whores are sanctified, hoorable and pure.

""ENGLISH TRANSLATION: Republican politicians are money whores. Therefore Democrat money whores are sanctified, hoorable and pure.""

No, not pure but a hell of a lot better than the Republicans who saw no reason to even investigate 8 billion dollars missing from the Iraq REconstruction fund.
Who changed ethics rules to allow Tom Delay to remain in leadership.
ETt. ETc. ETc.

BRIWO.....the topic was ETHICS, not CIC or war.

I KNOW Bush has been a "flop"...but with Teddy, we have a ready made argument about ETHICS by DEMS!

Chill out buddy...lol.

This bill dosen't do a damn thing. It is just a bunch of hot air from DC. Read the damn thing.

Wifey: When was the last time Teddy breeched ethics? When he was young? You know, youthful indiscretions and all.

Seems to me he's been a pretty straight shooter for the past 35 yrs. I mean I don't live in MA and Teddy is a tad too liberal but I think the constant Teddy refrains are getting old.

We always have Jack Abramoff WIFENOTHOME, and Tom Delay, and the Dukester, and Foley, and the list goes on and on and on.

OK BRIWO. We could use Bill Jefferson, Cleo Fields, Edwin Edwards, Bob Livingston, David Vitter, etc. for the "ethics" argument, but those are only in Louisiana! (That covers DEMS and GOP.)
It just shows you that ethics and Congress, or politics in general don't mix.

Sorry to get your panties in a knot!

Panties weren't really in a knot, I was merely voicing my displeasure at the "getting kind of old Teddy slams"

Sorry, but using Louisiana is unfair because I think 100% of your politicians are crooks. You have to limit your argument to Washington DC.

UNFAIR??? These people are on my ballot each election, and the idiots down here keep electing them! THAT'S what is unfair..lol!
We send these clowns to Washington, then complain because people look at us as a third world country...DUH!
GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All 14 senators who voted against the bill were Republicans.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Joe that states the obvious.

WIFENOTHOME, don't feel bad, our Florida Legislature has got to be just as corrupt as anything in Louisiana.

Does this Bill apply to Murtha?

I heard that the majority leader gets to label what is an earmark and what is not in this bill.

That's just a way for the in-power to keep power by labeling the minority earmarks and not their own.

R's were against this because it plays favorites, just another power play by libs to make the R's look bad.

Hummmm..sounds like the "Politburo" in DC is finally coming to reality, Awww..The democrats, free stuff for everone...But we will have our system on the side..remember Orwells Animal Farm, Is that the Dems handbook?

Did the Bush Administration run China too?

Nearly 1,800 Chinese officials confessed to their involvement in hundreds of acts of "misconduct", after a month-long nationwide "discipline" campaign, a senior Communist party official told reporters today.

The campaign, launched in May, uncovered around 77.9m yuan (5m) in illicit payments and funds, said Gan Yisheng of the party's central commission for discipline and inspection (CCDI).


A special team of inspectors was sent across the country to question local party bureaus, state-owned enterprises and banks. As well as conspicuous acts of corruption, the team also looked at the buying and selling of government positions, several dubious promotions and other acts of malfeasance.

free stuff for everone...except registered Republicans and other right wing capitalist pigs.
Viva Revolution!!!
Off with their heads!!!
Viva Chavez!!
Viva Castro!!
Viva Stalin!!
Viva Las Vegas!!

Murtha nabs $150M pork...

ethics?


Posted by FormerLib at 2007-08-03 12:30 PM

Your link makes a couple of points you seem to have overlooked.


"Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), chairman of the House Appropriations defense panel, has secured the most earmarked dollars in the 2008 military spending bill, followed closely by the panel's ranking member Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.)."

Sounds like they pretty much split their pet projects down the middle. Young earmarked 144 million---but he has ethics and Murtha doesn't?


Let's look at your next "oversight"



"The House is expected to take up the $459.6 billion defense appropriations bill Friday. It contains 1,337 earmarks, costing $3.07 billion, which is less than half the number and value of earmarks in last year's bill."


Seems the dems have cut earmarks in half over last year. I guess you want the republicans in to waste more money because to you that is more "efficient" than the dems.

Don't try to think---it isn't required---and you aren't very good at it. Just drink the kool-aide and vote republican---we should be able to double up those earmarked projects again in no time.

150 million? Geez, that's less than a third of what Stealin Stevens (R-Folsom) scammed for a couple of bridges for the polar bears.
These Dems just got to get on the ball.
And how many billion did Tom DeLie (R-Leavenworth) get for oil companies in Texas? No that's ethics!

Bush, of course, would add a signing statement that this doesn't apply either to him or to any corporate entity he designates. herm

Redwhiteandblue I think you meant CONGRESS. ETHICS. OXYCONTIN.

Calling this an 'ethics' bill is most amusing. Why not call it the 'child happiness' bill?

Why Vern? With amount of corruption going on, the Dukester, Stevens, Abramhoff, Jefferson and so on should the congress just done nothing?

"Why not call it the 'child happiness' bill?"

That would be the Child Happiness Bill, if such a thing existed. They call this an Ethics Bill because it's a bill about ethics.

You understand now, don't you?

You understand now, don't you?

Posted by ancientmariner at 2007-08-03 04:29 PM | Reply

Apparently you do not understand. Aside from hundreds of pages of earmarks, this 'ethics' bill mostly gets around ethics, when it comes to free trips, money and parties.

But that's OK for the stupid masses (like you) who see the word 'ethics' and somehow think that your congressdroid will now become pure and honest.

you understand now, don't you?

dumbass

I understand that you're a dumbass, Vernon, as you make clear on a regular basis. Thanks for reiterating that point yet again.

Vermin is correct .0000036% of the time.
By his own calculations, that's just a tad shy of a perfect 123%.

DeadWaterGuy:

I don't care about your stupid attempts at insulting me. I'm sure you think you are very clever. A common trait among the dim.

Have you read anything about this bill?

You see the worde 'ethics' in the title and interpret it to mean whatever you want. In fact it redefines 'ethics' so members of Congress can go back to under-the-table deals, money laundering, free trips on corporate jets, etc.

While Sarvis is an obvious retard, maybe you can make the distinction?

FORMERLIB ... "Murtha nabs $150M pork... ethics?"


The $459.6 billion defense appropriations contains 1,337 earmarks, costing $3.07 billion, which is less than half the number and value of earmarks in last year's bill; when Republicans ran Congress ...

Murtha is the chairman of the House Appropriations defense panel, of course he is going to have a large number of earmarks requested. And, in the 2007 Defense Bill, Bill Young (R-Fla) was the biggest spender on the list.

Besides, I don't hear you complaining about the "pork" contained in the 2008 Defense Spending Bill that Young earmarked, ($144.2 Million 6.3 Million less than Murtha ... A whopping 4% less), or Lewis (R-Calif) ($95 Million).

Did you even look at what Murtha's requested appropriations were for? The NDIC; drug interdiction tops his list. His second highest earmark is for a military molecular medicine initiative.

So, I guess your post adds up to more crap with which to muddy the waters?

I thought so ...

ODIE ... "Great idea but no chance of happening as well."

It passed 83/14, Bush can't VETO it ... Well he could, but there are more than enough votes to override a VETO ...

While Sarvis is an obvious retard...

Sufferin' succotash, Vermin! Here I was being all nice to you, not making cracks a few weeks ago as you sketched out your bucolic musings about moving to Luzon to get deep into the kiddie porn/Asian sex tourism scene and what do you go and do? Call me an "obvious retard." No smiley face for you today.

Ok, saw the vote etc.

Need help on one point.

Our congress passed an Ethics Bill

No, really, comon',joke right?

OUR congress?

Am I wrong in thinking they actually voted for confessions?

No, really!!!

I am with Vern here, this bill is nothing to do with ethics.

Most of the stuff which is common sense for the rest of the world was not even addressed.

"Who changed ethics rules to allow Tom Delay to remain in leadership"

Tom Delay is in leadership?

"All 14 senators who voted against the bill were Republicans"

At least Ron Paul gets his 60 or so earmarks. Even though he voted against them. He's got the system down.

"He's got the system down."

The only living politician I voted for.

Well, excepting the county treasurer.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., gave the measure a lukewarm endorsement.

"This bill isn't nearly as tough as it would have been on earmarks if Republicans had been involved in writing it," McConnell said


This is my favorite part.

YOU HAD 6 FRIGGIN YEARS....

I swear I'm gonna make a T-shirt.

"Republican's held control of the Congress and The White House for 6 years and all I can afford is this stinkin T-shirt"

I also am going to make a shirt that says "democrats held the congress from 1954 to 1994 and all I got was high inflation, high taxes, high mortgages, low wages, a cold war and this lousy t-shirt"

you sketched out your bucolic musings about moving to Luzon to get deep into the kiddie porn/Asian sex tourism scene

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2007-08-03 06:34 PM | Reply |

Well Doc Pervert, I hope to live in Mindanao, and raise my half-breed children near Dipolog. that's 1000 miles from Manila and Luzon. My business will eventually expand to Cagayon, Zambo, Davao.

You need to learn your geography. The Philippines is more than 7,000 islands, but only 1,000 inhabited.

Clearly, you want to fuck young boys. I cannot help you.

Wow, what a leap, Vermin! Sorry I haven't been putting little pins in the map to get an exact fix on where you're planning on moving to in Southeast Asia, but I've been busy. Although I suppose from your blinkered perspective we should all be up to speed on the comings and gongs of your sorry little life and doomed aspirations, shouldn't we? As for the pedophile thing, you appear to have some expertise in that area so I'll leave it up to you.

"My half-breed children." Where does that come from, Vermin? Just how fucked up are you?

One thing's for sure, it doesn't take much to yank on your string (so to speak), does it? Always been like this? Or are the lechon, sinigang and Big Mac combo with Stoly chasers adn a bourbon flavored lollipop not sitting well with you?

The best, most effective ethics rules are contained within that damn piece of paper, the Constitution.
The Demosplats and Republithugs are nothing less than organized crime organizations.
They are not about serving the citizens of this country, only themselves, and the special interests that fund their "bid" for office.

I also am going to make a shirt that says "democrats held the congress from 1954 to 1994 and all I got was high inflation, high taxes, high mortgages, low wages, a cold war and this lousy t-shirt"

Posted by HillBillyJihad at 2007-08-04 12:47 AM |


Well thats nice..but not exactly on point.

1. The Republican Senator said his Party would have done a better job at crafting this bill (insinuating that the loss of control of congress by his party is why the bill doesn't go far enough).

2. Controlling Congress and controlling Both the White House and Congress are fairly different in terms of power wielded.

3. Without actually deflecting in a "They did it to" manner.. Try this.
Do you Feel Republicans did a good job in being fiscally responsible while they were in control of 2 of the 3 branches of Government?

"Without actually deflecting in a "They did it to" manner.. Try this.
Do you Feel Republicans did a good job in being fiscally responsible while they were in control of 2 of the 3 branches of Government?"

Lord, no! ALL those 535 people in Washington are concerned with ONE objective...VOTES...getting reelected. It doesn't matter one iota whether they are democrat or republican. Congress has an approval rating of something like 14%, but we'll reelect 97% of them anyway. Ethics my AZZ. I wonder how many "earmarks" are attached to the "ethics bill?"