Nobody ever said this was going to be easy.

Come on, guys, suck it up. What's a little sweat and a case of the shits in darkness compared with the blessings of democracy?

We ARE making progress... it just happens to be in the wrong direction.

Who needs air conditioning, when you've got hand held fans?

Who needs lights? You don't have to curse the darkness, just light a match.

As for the shits, I suggest Baghdadis consider anal plugs. You can get a classic butt plug for about $10 a pop. I'll bet the government could, purchasing in large lots, get them for about $25 apiece. Twenty-five dollars times twenty-six mission (the number of people in Iraq--although between us, we and the other terrorists are working on getting that number down to a manageable size) comes to $750 million. Compared to the $1 trillion we're spending, that's really quite a bargain.

Here's to the Free Market!

"twenty-six mission"

Mistake. Make that "twenty-six million."

That'll really make 'em luv us!
C;mon! I'd bet-if we tried hard enough-we could make the electrical grid crash for days at a time too.....

God, what we have done to those poor people over there. WHY is Bush still in office? WHY is he allowed to declare an illegal war and inflict misery on millions of people -- IN OUR NAME! -- and remain in the highest office in the land?
And our infrastructure here in the U.S. isn't far behind that of Baghdad's -- thanks to Bush stealing all our tax money for his wars, tax cuts, and war profiteering corporate pals.

5-Day Forecast for Baghdad, Iraq

High/Low

Friday
116 F | 89 F

Saturday
113 F | 89 F

Sunday
111 F | 89 F

Monday
111 F | 89 F

Tuesday
111 F | 89 F

"God, what we have done to those poor people over there. WHY is Bush still in office? WHY is he allowed to declare an illegal war and inflict misery on millions of people -- IN OUR NAME! -- and remain in the highest office in the land?"

Because our constitution has been construed to vest all power in the Government. The people are now subordinate to it. What else do expect someone with all power vested in them to do?

This is surely a sign from ?????.

Turn out the lights, locks the doors, stop the paper and leave a forwarding address.

Comon' home boys and girls-Baghdad went out of business.

(soldiers-don't forget to leave a tip for the cleaning lady)

Yes but wait!!!!

The reports are comin in that Iraq is getting better!

5-Day Forecast for Baghdad, Iraq


High/Low


Friday
116 F | 89 F


Saturday
113 F | 89 F


Sunday
111 F | 89 F


Monday
111 F | 89 F


Tuesday
111 F | 89 F


I'm gonna say it before anyone else this time! It's Bush's fault.

" WHY is he allowed to declare an illegal war and inflict misery on millions of people -- IN OUR NAME! -- and remain in the highest office in the land?"

Don't read the news much, do you? Because there will never be enough votes in congress to impeach him and throw him out. duh

5 day forecast for Iraq:

Death

Death

Death

Death

Death

" WHY is he allowed to declare an illegal war and inflict misery on millions of people -- IN OUR NAME! -- and remain in the highest office in the land?"

Don't read the news much, do you? Because there will never be enough votes in congress to impeach him and throw him out. duh

Posted by goatman


Because there are people like Goatman.

5 day forecast for Iraq:

Death

Death

Death

Death

Death

Posted by I_N_Cognito

I'm gonna say it before anyone else this time! It's Bush's fault.
Posted by Goatman

From Wikipedia:

"The Goatman is a Homonid cryptid reported to be living in the United States of America. It is a Hybrid creature; part man and part goat[1]. Some claim it is a relative of Bigfoot. Its appearance is similar to the satyrs of Greek mythology (of which Pan is one), the Devil, and the horned men seen in cave paintings."

Literate and rational, though!

Don't read the news much, do you? Because there will never be enough votes in congress to impeach him and throw him out. duh

Posted by goatman

Underline "never".

"For us, we can buy bottled water. But I'm thinking about the poor who cannot afford to buy clean water," said Um Zainab, a 44-year-old homemaker in eastern Baghdad. "This shows the weakness and the inefficiency of government officials who are good at only one thing -- blaming each other for the problems we are face."

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Who'll give Dubya the Presidential Medal of Truthiness now? Make sure you get a good photo-op of it when he comes back from his two-month vacation.

5-Day Forecast for Baghdad, Iraq


High/Low


Friday
116 F | 89 F


Saturday
113 F | 89 F


Sunday
111 F | 89 F


Monday
111 F | 89 F


Tuesday
111 F | 89 F




But it's a dry heat

""I'm gonna say it before anyone else this time! It's Bush's fault""

ER......unfortunately Goatman it really is Bush's fault. There was no need to invade and occupy Iraq, plenty of us tried to convince the rest of you morons of that FACT but unfortunately the less intelligent 3/4 of America wouldn't listen preferring to listen to the pretend cowboy. Now these poor Iraqis get to live without water or electricity because y'all were so smart. I hope they appreciate your sincere concern for their fate.
Bush should have to go live in the shit hole he has created.

Boa

That's exactly what 'Zonies tell themselves every year.

It's not exactly true, though

************Water Taps Run Dry in Baghdad *********

........a quick tax cut should fix that.........

"ER......unfortunately Goatman it really is Bush's fault."

I knew it! There actually would be a person here who thought the high temperature forecast was Bush's fault. Amazing. Simply amazing.

"This shows the weakness and the inefficiency of government officials who are good at only one thing -- blaming each other for the problems we are face."

See. Democracy is gaining a foothold in Iraq. The Bush version of democracy, that is. Defund and deliberately undermine government. Say, "See, it doesn't work". Then use American taxpayer money to give Halliburton the contract to distribute and sell bottled water to Iraqis, most of whom can't afford it.

Smirk, stick out your chest(or crotch) and crow "Mission Accomplished".

It isn't even getting to 130 degrees in Baghdad but the headline focuses on them having no water! Typical left-wing Drudge bias.

RightOReality.

""I knew it! There actually would be a person here who thought the high temperature forecast was Bush's fault. Amazing. Simply amazing.""

Are you trying to be funny or are you really that stupid???
Either way, the shortage of water and electricity in Baghdad is still Bush's fault.
Most of us don't think it is all that funny, not surprising that a right wing nut would though.

The Bush version of democracy: go on vacation.

Of course the temperatures in Iraq in summer are not Bush's fault. The wingers rightly point out the absurdity of statements like that. More difficult to justify their own absurdities, though. Like planning a "surge" that is timed to peak in those summer months. But they'll find a way or just treat it as though it's not happening and/or blame everybody else which are their more usual and preferred methods.

If they don't have water, the insurgents can't live.

Brilliant!

You can get a classic butt plug for about $10 a pop.


BOA....just exactly how and why do you know the price?? LOL! Just picking!!!!!

You can get a classic butt plug for about $10 a pop.


BOA....just exactly how and why do you know the price?? LOL! Just picking!!!!!

Wifenothome-
Did you hear that? Was that the garage door, or a key in the lock?

BTW, what exactly is a "classic" butt plug?

Sherif Ali(Omar Sharif):

"And that is the desert. From here until we reach the other side, no water but what we carry with us. For the camels, no water at all. If the camels die, we die. And in twenty days they will start to die."

Lawrence of Arabia(1962).

George W. Bush(President of the United States):

"Lawrence who?"

The Unbearable Lightness of Being(2001-2003).

Boyd...I have no clue. I was hoping BOA could shed some light on this. Does he have a collection that he uses depending on the "occasion"???

We broke it, and now we'll have to buy it.
So at the same time that 70,000 bridges in America need serious repair work, we're going to have to shell out (or borrow from China) billions more to rebuild Iraq's power and water infrastructure.

And that is Bush's fault.

Norm: Don't worry about repairing the water and electricity. Bush has already admitted failure on that front.

Can some right-winger here explain to me how, in a country of 300 million people and 3.7 million square miles, laissez faire, tax cuts, trickle-down economics and leaving it to the individual cities and states will maintain the infrastructure in the most advanced economy that the world has ever seen?

Try not to demonize FDR and Eisenhower or suggest that Halliburton do it.

It has taken 6 years for Americans to realize what a complete failure BushCo is. Congress is even slower to react, due to rampant corruption.

BLUEINBUSHLAND
simple. we'll privatize every street, highway, road, bridge, sidewalk, school, airport, etc. etc. etc.
Bring lots of quarters cuz it will cost you several dollars in tolls just to walk accross the street.

Where are the delusional righties to say everything is wonderful in Iraq?

Bush has been on vacation 27% of the time since taking office, he is now on a 5 week vacation from his full time vacation.

This water shortage is really a strategic maneuver by the very clever Dumbya. He is stopping the flow of water so the terrorists will die of thirst.
He is so clever. Oh, sorry to all the other Iraqis but a war president has to do what a war president has to do.

This water shortage is really a strategic maneuver by the very clever Dumbya. He is stopping the flow of water so the terrorists will die of thirst.
He is so clever. Oh, sorry to all the other Iraqis but a war president has to do what a war president has to do.

This water shortage is really a strategic maneuver by the very clever Dumbya. He is stopping the flow of water so the terrorists will die of thirst.
He is so clever. Oh, sorry to all the other Iraqis but a war president has to do what a war president has to do.

Er, the Iraqis destruction of facilities is irrelevant to some of you lefties? It's not our responsibility to maintain the systems. If they keep destroying them, let them suffer the consequnces. Sit back and see how long the Iraqis tolerate the continuing destruction. So long as we have generators and water for our forces, it's okay.

Similar to self-assembly, this "problem" will solve itself if we don't intervene. Maybe the Iraqis will redirect their energies to eliminating those destroying their infrastructure, and also strive to create and maintain it themselves. It should not be adopted as "our problem."

Er, the Iraqis destruction of facilities is irrelevant to some of you lefties? It's not our responsibility to maintain the systems. If they keep destroying them, let them suffer the consequnces. Sit back and see how long the Iraqis tolerate the continuing destruction. So long as we have generators and water for our forces, it's okay.

Similar to self-assembly, this "problem" will solve itself if we don't intervene. Maybe the Iraqis will redirect their energies to eliminating those destroying their infrastructure, and also strive to create and maintain it themselves. It should not be adopted as "our problem."

Er, the Iraqis destruction of facilities is irrelevant to some of you lefties? It's not our responsibility to maintain the systems. If they keep destroying them, let them suffer the consequnces. Sit back and see how long the Iraqis tolerate the continuing destruction. So long as we have generators and water for our forces, it's okay.

Similar to self-assembly, this "problem" will solve itself if we don't intervene. Maybe the Iraqis will redirect their energies to eliminating those destroying their infrastructure, and also strive to create and maintain it themselves. It should not be adopted as "our problem."

JOHNSON, no argument from me on that but if that is the case then what the hell are we keeping our troops there for???
Can't have it both ways, either our presence is helping or it isn't. Apparently, with our soldiers there the anger gets focused on them instead of the terrorists who are blowing stuff up.

Let them drink Evian!

$4 a gallon for diesel in a country that produces it. I wonder how much fuel is being exported from Iraq and how much lower the Iraqi's fuel costs would be if none of it was?

You've done a heckuva job, America.

You can get a classic butt plug for about $10 a pop

Posted by boa at 2007-08-02 06:56 PM

Only Loki would know the price of a butt plug.

Similar to self-assembly, this "problem" will solve itself if we don't intervene. Maybe the Iraqis will redirect their energies to eliminating those destroying their infrastructure, and also strive to create and maintain it themselves. It should not be adopted as "our problem."

Posted by Johnson


We're the ones who started the "intervening". The domino theory started with us invading Iraq because Saddam was an asshole. Now you say 'well, screw them as long as we have water and generators, they will sort it out themselves." An excellent reason why we should leave! There has not been, at any in time during this whole war, a point where the Iraqis have been better off than they were under Saddam. Right now, we are the ones that are screwing up their culture, their economy and their future. How would Americans on both sides of the issues have felt had Englnd or France gotten themselves involved in our Civil war?

$4 a gallon for diesel in a country that produces it. I wonder how much fuel is being exported from Iraq and how much lower the Iraqi's fuel costs would be if none of it was?

Iraq imports most of its fuel, from our democratic friends and allies in Kuwait. seems the Surgerer-in-Chief neglected to send enough troops to guard the oil facilities and refineries.

Similar to self-assembly, this "problem" will solve itself if we don't intervene. Maybe the Iraqis will redirect their energies to eliminating those destroying their infrastructure, and also strive to create and maintain it themselves. It should not be adopted as "our problem."

Posted by Johnson

The administration caused this, so it is technically "your problem" and I guess to your point, iraqis are "redirecting their energies to eliminate those destroying their infrastructure". Unfortunately, and it seems obvious to most except for you, that's you, as in the occupying force.

Bush landed in iraq uninvited, with no plan, a move having no strategic relevance to the war on terror. What was the final reason given for this monumental fuckup? Spreadin' democracy one corpse at a time? What's the real reason: pilfering resources from others.

The invasion finished what was left of an infrastructure severely weakened by decades of sanctions and the priority of the puppet regime propped by bush, which is on holidays, is the pretending to determine who gets the rights for drilling and exploiting oil. Real fucking nice.

Terrorists behead civilians and captured U.S. troops, use car bombs to kill people (including women and children) and destroy buildings. The liberals give them a pass.

Al Qaeda was recuiting by literally cooking children and serving them at a dinner table of their parents to scare them in to cooperation. Liberals give them a pass.

Terrorist networks bomb Mosques, incite sectarian violence, and destroy roads and oil refineries. The liberals give them a pass.

In the mind of the Liberal, terrorists bear no responsibility at all for their murders, barbarism, and terror. It is all the fault of Bush and the U.S. Military. I could not imagine waking up and being as pathetic as a liberal. It's just plain sad.

Similar to self-assembly, this "problem" will solve itself if we don't intervene. Maybe the Iraqis will redirect their energies to eliminating those destroying their infrastructure, and also strive to create and maintain it themselves. It should not be adopted as "our problem."

That is simply the stupidest and most irresponsible thing I've ever heard. Is this seriously how you think the world works? Is this how you think we should project power in the world, defend our interests, defend our country?

Stupid, irresponsible, and ineffective policies like the one you suggest drive allies and potential allies away from us. They add legions of angry people to our adversaries' ranks. Like the Katrina response, they make Americans look incompetent in the eyes of the world. Why should people follow us and trust us if we can't even manage to provide them with basic municipal services?

Anti-government types sitting back in a wealthy stable 231 year old democracy and railing against the evils of government make me sick. How do you really think we got here - every man for himself?

If we can't provide basic services to the Iraqis, they will follow someone who will - and they won't be friendly to us. Previous administrations bound countries to us by showing that it was in their interest, that good things would come from suporting us. All Bush has been able to offer is collateral damage, "tough" talk, and broken promises.

"The Goatman is a Homonid cryptid reported to be living in the United States of America. It is a Hybrid creature; part man and part goat[1]. Some claim it is a relative of Bigfoot. Its appearance is similar to the satyrs of Greek mythology (of which Pan is one), the Devil, and the horned men seen in cave paintings."

"Literate and rational, though!"

Really close except for the satyr part. I'm actually bipedal, believe it or not.

UTA-
re: I could not imagine waking up and being as pathetic as a liberal. It's just plain sad.

That's because a caricature of everything that you hate has been created and labeled "typical liberal", and you are simplistic enough not only to believe it, but to regurgitate it without prompting.

UTA-
For instance, you say ridiculous shit like this:

Terrorists behead civilians and captured U.S. troops, use car bombs to kill people (including women and children) and destroy buildings. The liberals give them a pass.

What the hell does that even mean?

""I knew it! There actually would be a person here who thought the high temperature forecast was Bush's fault. Amazing. Simply amazing.""

"Are you trying to be funny or are you really that stupid???"

Neither. I'm trying to be accurate and truthful. I realize why it is hard for you to recognize the truth, of course, but that shouldn't prevent you from trying it out sometime

check out my original post at 12:43 AM:

"5-Day Forecast for Baghdad, Iraq

[weather forecast snipped for brevity]

High/Low


I'm gonna say it before anyone else this time! It's Bush's fault."


A recurring theme, of course, on my stance that "everything is Bush's fault" in the eyes of a democrat. then you wrote at 8:43 the following:

"ER......unfortunately Goatman it really is Bush's fault. "

[Since I was talking about the weather, I assume you implied that the weather WAS Bush's fault.]

followed by your cut and pasted diatribe on the woes of invading Iraq.

So you either:
a) didn't read my full post to see the joke (what's new?)
b) too dull to get the joke
c) had the insatiable need to regurgitate your views on the Iraqi war and call names
d) all of the above

Terrorists behead civilians and captured U.S. troops, use car bombs to kill people (including women and children) and destroy buildings. The liberals give them a pass.

Al Qaeda was recuiting by literally cooking children and serving them at a dinner table of their parents to scare them in to cooperation. Liberals give them a pass.

Terrorist networks bomb Mosques, incite sectarian violence, and destroy roads and oil refineries. The liberals give them a pass.

In the mind of the Liberal, terrorists bear no responsibility at all for their murders, barbarism, and terror. It is all the fault of Bush and the U.S. Military. I could not imagine waking up and being as pathetic as a liberal. It's just plain sad.

There's a difference between "giving them a pass" and taking effective action. Bush's actions in Iraq have strengthened AQ - so says our own intellegence services. Bush taking his eye off the ball in Afghanistan gave the Taliban the breathing room to reconstitute to begin with.

And at stake are the "hearts and minds" of nearly a billion people who could support us, stay neutral, or support the terrorists. Everything we've done has made us look weak and stupid, and encouraged more people to take us on.

I know "kickin' ass" feels great, but this isn't a drunken fistfight in the parking lot at prom night. We need to be smarter. Yes, these guys are all proven assholes and they need to be stopped. Has anything Bush done stopped the growth of these movements, or even slowed them down?

Sure, they haven't attacked in the US again, they haven't needed to - they're too busy signing up new recruits. They're taking their time. When they do try to attack again, they will have 10 times the recruiting pool because we've done exactly what they've wanted us to do for the last 6 years.

"Of course the temperatures in Iraq in summer are not Bush's fault. "

BiBL caught the joke. Why didn't you, Danni? I have my suspicions, but out of cordiality I'll keep 'em to myself.

Goatman-
Danni was referring to the topic of the thread.

Goatman-
You do understand that Danni was referring to the topic of the thread, and not your insipid joke?

"How would Americans on both sides of the issues have felt had Englnd or France gotten themselves involved in our Civil war?"

England did. I have hanging on a wall three feet from me a framed Confederate war bond purchased by the British government. THey also bought as much cotton as they could and sold the surplus at a loss to help the confederacy.

"Danni was referring to the topic of the thread."

Since things sometime drift OT here, I've noticed all the other people reply to the post.

But of course if you reply to something other than quoted post, yet refer to that post, it is possible to put words into others' mouths or make statements out of context. Not real honest, but it does work on the dimmer witted, I guess.

I'm catching on!

"You do understand that Danni was referring to the topic of the thread, and not your insipid joke?"

See above.

The dimmer witted seem to think that their excuse for humor automatically hijacks the topic of the thread.

I was doing some work on pre-employment psych. evaluations earlier. Some of the most routine questions ask what the respondent thinks about others regarding honesty, integrity, etc. The theory is - and it works quite well in practice - that if the respondent thinks most others are dishonest, then one can reasonably infer that the respondent is dishonest.

You, instead of recognizing the obvious, thought that Danni was being an idiotic partisan.

Food for thought...

"The dimmer witted seem to think that their excuse for humor automatically hijacks the topic of the thread."

If you don't like the humor either say so, or don't respond. But don't take the original intent and turn it into an act of dishonesty.

BTW, can't Danni speak for herself?

"The theory is - and it works quite well in practice - that if the respondent thinks most others are dishonest, then one can reasonably infer that the respondent is dishonest."

Hmmm. My experience is that honest people, like birds of a feather, seem to attract each other. Maybe I've simply not hung around enough dishonest people.

I remember I worked with a guy who I once tried to tell a lie to. He said it was obvious that I was lying. I wasn't any good at it he said. To think he thought it was a badge of honor to be able to lie well. Some people.

Goatman-
re: BTW, can't Danni speak for herself?

Danni's most recent post on this blog was six hours ago.

(BTW, goatman, I did not insinuate that you were dishonest)

But it's a dry heat

Boa picks up a FF from Spud on his own thread!

Ya'd think at least one of them billions of dollars being spent in Iraq woulda gone fer bottled water. You could prolly get a pretty good deal when yer dealing in bulk like that.

Man, can that place turn into anymore of a hellhole?

Be Well.

Ah, the joys of Iraqi style democracy.

The right to be free to dehydrate in the dark.

A Glorious thing, no?

Be Well.

So GOATMAN is an honest guy. Never lies because he just ins't good at it. And then posts an anecdote illustrating this good quality for all of us. Reminds me of the story of Gerge Washington and the cherry tree. I bet it has about as much truth to it as that story did too. I believe people should not fall into the trap of believing their own bull shit.

**** It's not our responsibility to maintain the systems. JOHNSON ****

.......good, then lets go home..........

England did. I have hanging on a wall three feet from me a framed Confederate war bond purchased by the British government. THey also bought as much cotton as they could and sold the surplus at a loss to help the confederacy.

Posted by goatman


they didn't occupy us you moron. Not quite the same. Go back and play with your thermometer.

"they didn't occupy us you moron. "

Occupation wasn't mentioned. Involvement was. Here's the original post to refresh your mind:

"How would Americans on both sides of the issues have felt had Englnd or France gotten themselves involved in our Civil war?"

Name calling. Charming. Especially when you are wrong.

Posted by goatman

You are either an idiot and only reading what you want to read into other people's posts or you are truly deficient. Which is it?

"You are either an idiot and only reading what you want to read into other people's posts or you are truly deficient. Which is it?"

The answer is c) reading what is written.

I know that a lot of people like to interpret what others write and put their own spin on it. I don't. I read what is written and run with that. I'm not keen on specualating on what the writer inteneded to say. I figure he said what he intended.

BTW, your two choices are essentially the same answer. Idiot is pretty much the same as truly deficient.

We're the ones who started the "intervening". The domino theory started with us invading Iraq because Saddam was an asshole. Now you say 'well, screw them as long as we have water and generators, they will sort it out themselves." An excellent reason why we should leave! There has not been, at any in time during this whole war, a point where the Iraqis have been better off than they were under Saddam. Right now, we are the ones that are screwing up their culture, their economy and their future. How would Americans on both sides of the issues have felt had Englnd or France gotten themselves involved in our Civil war?

Posted by geezer1

spin it the way you like, goatherd...but here is the WHOLE post (not just a snippet) that begins with the sentence about how we "invaded" Iraq. So you can't even make your point that you are responding to the actual post. It's fun to quote and respond to whatever it is that helps you make your faulty argument without considering its context.

Need me to sign an "arguement abuser" document so you can move on with your life?