They are bending it until it breaks. Then what?
They are destroying it and when it's really broken, what will they have left? NUKES.
These bastards want to fail in the worst way.

Hitler imported 4,000 German sailors to defend berlin in April, 1945. His army was also broken.

The only super power.... Right !

I could see nukes being used in Iraq. There are about fifty million Americans who hate "PC war" and have never been happy about intact Iraqi residential neighborhhods.

"I could see nukes being used"

I truly hope you are not serious.

Well what do you expect. We have a Secretary of Defense you has never spent a day in uniform. A Secretary of State who's really more qualified as a concert pianist. A VP who spent years avoiding anything to do with the military, and a President who treated his national guard service as if it were a social gig or some part-time summer job. And now we stand around and wonder why they're making idiotic military decisions, eh? We're getting exactly what the wingers voted for, incompetence, from the top down.

OCU

Who are next -- the Boy Scouts and Brownies?

Man, if this is true, they really are funning out. I can only imagine the joy of the guys trained in combat arms to have these newbies watching their backs.

should be running out

I remember seeing the following on the list of casualties when I put up the "SOME GAVE ALL" thread a couple weeks ago and thought it odd that there were Navy Seals being killed by IED's inside Iraq. I'll bet the use of the Navy and Air Force in Iraq has been going on a lot longer than they have let on.

"SOME GAVE ALL - U.S. MILITARY CASUALITIES"

(Dated July 8, 2007)
...
Steven Phillip Daugherty, 28,

of Barstow; petty officer first class, Navy. Daugherty was among three sailors killed Friday when an improvised bomb exploded under their Humvee in the Baghdad area. He was assigned to an East Coast-based SEAL team.

...

Jason Dale Lewis, 30,

of Brookfield, Conn.; petty officer first class, Navy. Lewis was among three sailors killed Friday when an improvised bomb exploded under their Humvee in the Baghdad area. He was assigned to an East Coast-based SEAL team.

Robert Richard McRill, 42,

of Lake Placid, Fla.; petty officer first class, Navy. McRill was among three sailors killed Friday when an improvised bomb exploded under their Humvee in the Baghdad area. He was assigned to an East Coast-based SEAL team.

Hitler imported 4,000 German sailors to defend berlin in April, 1945. His army was also broken.

Posted by Zed at 2007-07-21 09:03 PM | Reply

And if I remember right, a lot of them were schoolboys from military schools and elderly men civilians.

"Navy Seals being killed by IED's inside Iraq."

Fish out of water.

Maybe Bush's real goal is to break and destroy our own military and then replace them with his private hired guns (a la Blackwater) as they would be loyal not to our country but loyal only to King George -- just the way he wants it.

GWB and his cronies will never flinch. It does matter the amount of pain and suffering they inflict on either the American soldier or the Iraqi civilian. GWB is just gonna keep going full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes.

What an EVIL EVIL EVIL government my countrymen re-elected in 11/04. I have learned to never underestimate the gullibility, stupidity or vapidity of the typical American. In fact, I used to consider myself a middle of the road moderate. Now I have learned that common sense, compassion and reasonable intelligence has marginalized my views to the leftwing. When did the mass of people in this country become so dense?

They're just there until the Young Republican Brigades get to Baghdad.

The denseness of the masses has been a purposefull, long, slow, gradual, definate, decline. Thanks to marketing and the selling of America, the awakening will happen when it's too late I'm afraid.

"But many airmen and sailors are not volunteering for these jobs -- they're being told to do them, and that could cut down re-enlistments and complicate recruitment for both services down the road," he said."

So Airforce, Navy and National Guard are all just different words for the Army now?

Spud's amazed that anyone is volunteering for this clusterfuck in the sand at this point. Those numbers will wane as these facts are disseminated to the kids.

Unless they're watching Faux Noize, of course.

Be Well.

i>Spud's amazed that anyone is volunteering for this clusterfuck in the sand at this point. Those numbers will wane as these facts are disseminated to the kids....

Our troops are not volunteering We have more paid (with our tax money) mercenaries fighting for Bush in iraq than we have U.S. military troops over there. Great article below:

from 'downwithtirany.com.blogspot"

COALITION OF THE BILLING: MORE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS IN IRAQ THAN U.S. TROOPS

...Yesterday's Los Angeles Times published a piece by Christian Miller, Private Contractors Outnumber U.S. Troops in Iraq, that shows how Bush has made the occupation of Iraq into a for-profit bonanza for his campaign contributors.

And we're not talking about a few million here and a few million here. As I've said before, generational wealth-- that of which a new and venal plutocracy takes root-- is being created for the few while the sons and daughters, brothers, fathers, husbands, wives, friends of regular folks are dying meaningless, brutish deaths to protect the accumulation of vast riches for the few.

Private contractors? I'm not talking just about plumbers and people who are paving driveways -- although they're there too, driven by desperation to find good-paying work in such a hostile environment; I'm talking about the war profiteers and the mercenaries and companies that supply them.

"Mercenaries." It's a word that makes normal Americans recoil in horror. Our elementary school books teach us-- or did when I was a kid-- that mercenaries highed by the British, Hessians, were the worst of our enemies in our own Revolutionary War, when we were the terrorists fighting for our freedom and King George III was... well, King George II.

The DWT correspondent in Baghdad, "Fred," tells me he puts it in his contract that he never has to be around mercenaries from Blackwater, the private America run by American neofascist billionaire Erik Prince.

The Iraqis, he tells me, hate the mercenaries-- and for good reason-- in a way they don't hate American troops and as much as we, as a people, hated King George (the III's) Hessians.

CaliChris, "Mercenaries"

You pissant ideologue. You prove that Leftist/Democratics lie through their teeth, and always have, when they say that they "support our troops."

And, you thought to patronize me, eh? Just another psuedo-intellectual, anti-patriotic, commie-wannabe.

Who are next -- the Boy Scouts and Brownies?

Posted by CalifChris at 2007-07-21 09:17 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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You forgot the Cub Scouts.

Larry

Gawddddddd and here I thought JeffJ was bad at accusing Left/Democrats for everything wrong. Boy NOBODY Takes the cake better/Worse than Taddy Boy. JeffJ it seems You have a LONGGGGGG ways to go before You meet Tadowe's tripe. God Damn man.

Larry

You know it's bad when You would rather read GZLives continual tripe than Taddy Boy's

Larry

This is good news for the Leftist/Democratic ghouls. Not only can they mock our servicemen's supposed lack of military skills (at least the Air Force, Coast Guard, and Navy), they can also pretend to care more for these soldiers, if they die, and stack them 2, maybe 3 to 1 against the murdering infantry as more important.

They can also revile any accidental deaths that the terrorists plan and have a camera there to record, and call those soldiers vicious murderers and war criminals. At the same time revile Bush, Cheney, Rove and half the rest of the entire nation for their lack of training which caused the genocidal murders to take place!!!

This is a BONANZA for any anti-patriot in the USA to support human sacrifice by our enemy and demand we surrender to them and leave millions of innocent victims to their terrorist whims! Ooh, that would give you a thrill, wouldn't it, millions of potential victims for the bloody altars of Islamic jihad?

Call your Leftist/Democratic friends and plot this so that your party can profit from this war to the maximum degree possible!

People's Progressive Democratic Party unite to defeat America in Iraq to win for party in 2008 -- Count a body for Hillary Pull Out! Shove it to Bush and Republicans! Pull Out! Shove it in! Pull out! Shove it in!

please, pleeeease, pleeeease tell me you are not currently on active duty in our military

Too bad GHWB didn't Pull Out 61 Years ago.

Larry

People's Progressive Democratic Party over Nation.

That's what you gangster wannabes believe in, and you make such good antipatriotic subversive.

I think, and hope, that you are in for a rude awakening, as the rest of the nation gets wise to the fact that you are HipHop idiots, hardly any different in kind from the neolithic human sacrificers of Islam; fascist zealots and pequenito tirantitos, tu pinches cabrones.

Hey Chris are You feeling of De Ja vue again?? It sure feels like it from here Buddy.

Larry

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149
May 7, 1918

People's Progressive Democratic Party over Nation.

That's what you gangster wannabes believe in, and you make such good antipatriotic subversive.

I think, and hope, that you are in for a rude awakening, as the rest of the nation gets wise to the fact that you are HipHop idiots, hardly any different in kind from the neolithic human sacrificers of Islam; fascist zealots and pequenito tirantitos, tu pinches cabrones.

Posted by tadowe


Good grief what freakish babble.

It's so nice when their own writing exposes them as nut jobs.

They can also revile any accidental deaths that the terrorists plan and have a camera there to record, and call those soldiers vicious murderers and war criminals.

In the real world, those of us opposed to the occupation are disgusted at the senseless killing of our soldiers and the deceit that brought them there. In Tad's Bizarro world, we love to see them killed and maimed in a war that threatens our survival.

Midiman or is it MIDDLEMAN?? I dunno. You should have seen Taddy Boy a Couple Years ago. His M O is the same. Hell His posts are the same too. He blames all of Our Country's ills upon Leftist Democrats, I thought JeffJ was bad, Heavens JeffJ would need much more "Schooling" in order to reach Taddy Boy's "Status"

Larry

Yeah Tad is a bit off the deep end, what brought him back?

'Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign world.
-George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence, (I conjure you to believe me fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of Republican Government.
-George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
-George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire called conscience.
-George Washington, The Rules of Civility, Circa 1748

Damn that leftist communist George Washington! Damn him for leaving an indelible mark of freedom on the people. I bet he rejoiced over the young boys slain in the field at Valley Forge, just like the neo-socialist of today rejoice over the slain in Iraq.

Go ahead, wingnuts, start swift boating George Washington.

"Go ahead, wingnuts, start swift boating George Washington."

I love the way our language evolves. The rightists "swift boat" people and the leftists "Bork" them. Ya' gotta be a little careful with the last one.

That's what you gangster wannabes believe in, and you make such good antipatriotic subversive.

I think, and hope, that you are in for a rude awakening, as the rest of the nation gets wise to the fact that you are HipHop idiots, hardly any different in kind from the neolithic human sacrificers of Islam; fascist zealots and pequenito tirantitos, tu pinches cabrones.

Posted by tadowe at 2007-07-22 06:16 AM

I served my nation in uniform during the Vietnam era as an Army officer.

In what branch of the military did YOU defend our nation?

OCU

"Navy Seals being killed by IED's inside Iraq."

Fish out of water.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-07-21 09:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

?????

SEAL = SEa Air Land.

CaliChris, "Mercenaries"

You pissant ideologue. You prove that Leftist/Democratics lie through their teeth, and always have, when they say that they "support our troops."

And, you thought to patronize me, eh? Just another psuedo-intellectual, anti-patriotic, commie-wannabe.

Posted by tadowe at 2007-07-22 05:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Are you denying we have mercenaries in Iraq??

Pssssst....up your meds.

- Count a body for Hillary Pull Out! Shove it to Bush and Republicans! Pull Out! Shove it in! Pull out! Shove it in!

Posted by tadowe at 2007-07-22 05:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think I speak for everyone when I say we don't want to hear about your Saturday nights at the bath-house.

SEAL = SEa Air Land.

Posted by COMMONSENSE



mea culpa

With the exception of commonsense, who accurately pointed out that Navy SEALS are multifaceted, and Zatoichi, who acknowledged commonsense was right, you people haven't posted one well-informed thought on this entire chain.

Just so you don't blow me off as some single-wide livin' redneck sitting in front of his computer in a wife-beater t-shirt drinking a bud, I'll preface this with I'm a Naval Officer currently serving in Iraq.

Individual Augments have been occurring for a couple of years now. And while everyone, including personnel in the Navy, tend to clump all the IA's into a "going to Iraq to do the Army's job" category (just like the newpaper did), in fact a ton of those IA's are Navy personnel going to serve in Navy units supporting Navy missions. And a computer technician in the Navy has the same skills as one in the Army or Air Force. An electronics technician or diesel mechanic is the same in every service. With some exceptions (a minority), those are the IA's being filled. We're even filling duties like embassy duty around the world instead of our Army or Marine counterparts. Why? Because every Marine is a rifleman and every Soldier is a soldier. Better to put them out there killing the bad guys while we make sure that their command posts have reliable communications and that their Humvees are running.

You're all so quick to read something in an obviously slanted paper and take every word as the gospel of Jerry Garcia. You spout off and then defend your ill-informed opinions because that's easier than admitting you were wrong. Hey, I don't agree with a lot of what has happened out here these last few years, but at least I know I'm fully informed of what REALLY is happening out here, not just a zipperhead dropping soundbites in for follow-on regurgitation. I read all your blogs, watch CNN and MSNBC and read the Times, but I also watch Fox News and read Stars and Stripes, which I'll bet a nickel none of you have ever cracked a page on. I don't care if you disagree with the war - I really don't. I don't think that makes you anti-military. But I also don't believe you when you say you're supporting the troops by advocating their withdrawl. That's trying to have your cake and eat it too. Don't believe you're fooling anybody out here. Your other comments tend to reveal your underlying feelings.

Before all of you starting piling on to one of RCADE's postings, how about you all engage in a little research next time? It'll make you sound more intelligent.

Flying Mustang

But I also don't believe you when you say you're supporting the troops by advocating their withdrawl. That's trying to have your cake and eat it too. Don't believe you're fooling anybody out here. Your other comments tend to reveal your underlying feelings

But it's not a civil war, not the way we picture it from reading our history books. While it's reported as a conflict between warring religious factions, but is largely an attempt Iran to take control of Iraq without firing a military shot. How many mortars, rockets, artillery shells and bullets do you think were lying around in Iraq when we moved in? Now think about how many IED's are detonated every day, how many bullets are fired, how many RPG's are shot and how many mortars are lauched. Where do you think those are coming from? Iran has largely quit even hiding the fact that they're supplying them now that our own press has seemingly started vilifying anyone who speaks out in anger regarding Ahmadinejad as a person seeking another war. Guess what? It's already happening. Iran doesn't want a democratic society in Iraq. Hell, they just cracked down on their own people for wearing the wrong clothes! They've declared martial law and the ultra-religious factions of their military have taken over. Add to that their sudden friendship with that whackjob Chavez and I, for one, foresee a day when Iran attempts to close down the flow of oil from the Arabian Gulf and Chavez ceases exporting to the US in an attempt to cause a financial burden on the US. How will you, personally, react when the Oval Office (whoever is sitting there) dictates reserving fuel for military applications in a potential conflict with Iran, North Korea OR BOTH and forces you to pay 10 bucks a gallon for gas? Will you protest? Will you riot? Will you sit in your home and contemplate on the decisions you made in 2007?

Flying-
re: Now think about how many IED's are detonated every day, how many bullets are fired, how many RPG's are shot and how many mortars are lauched. Where do you think those are coming from?

Outta your ass?

Seriously, though, it seems that nearly half of the foreign fighters are from Saudi Arabia, and most of the foreign suicide bombers (al Qaeda in Iraq) are from Saudi Arabia. This makes some kinda sense when you reflect that Osama is Saudi, and most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi as well. I'll assume that you understand that al Qaeda is a Sunni organization, and Saudi Arabia is primarily Sunni. Iran is Shiite, and so is the majority in Iraq.

Just nod if you understand.

When I read the desperate postings of most of the righties these days, if I read them that is, I realize just how incapable of dealing with reality they are. They fill their posts with accusations and insults for evil libruls who want American soldiers to die just to further a librul agenda and then they still think anyone will consider their ideas with even a smidgen of interest. As the war devolves further into chaos they become more hateful and desperate and less connected with reality and thus less interesting to read. It gets to the point that their insults become laughable and seem just the desperate words of those who cling to a lost cause not because of its importance to America but because of its importance to their own self image.

I'm sorry if I offended any of you with the facts! I acknowledge that a ton of the insurgents come from Saudi Arabia. Nearly half of those captured come from there - I'm not disputing that. But they're just one faction. The most heavily armed and most bent on creating a leadership void into which they can step are bankrolled and armed by the Iranian government. I can't say why our government isn't standing on a soapbox and announcing this alongside truckloads of incontravertible truth, but I restate that I don't agree with a lot of what I see going on in our government. I'm just telling you that pulling our troops out won't result in Al Queda taking over Iraq - that will be left to Muqtada Al Sadr, a devoted puppet of Iran. You can all have your opinions - base them on whichever columnist you choose to follow - I'm just saying I'm out here and this is what I'm seeing, before it gets edited.

Flying-
re: The most heavily armed and most bent on creating a leadership void into which they can step are bankrolled and armed by the Iranian government.

Lets just suffice it to say that I don't trust a damn thing Cheney/Bush and their lackeys say, and I'm wary of the "bomb Iran" rhetoric from the same incompetent civilians that brought us the Iraq debacle. It does seem clear that Iraq (not Kurdistan) will be a Shia theocracy aligned with Iran, but I don't really see what can be done about it at this point.

Thank Bush.

""The most heavily armed and most bent on creating a leadership void into which they can step are bankrolled and armed by the Iranian government.""

Perhaps some proof that this statement is true. From what I have been reading it is really Saudi ARabia that has sent the most people, arms and money to Iraq.
I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

The most heavily armed and most bent on creating a leadership void into which they can step are bankrolled and armed by the Iranian government

Major powers have always used 3rd parties to settle old scores (that's why they call it a proxy war). The French did it with the British during the American fight for independence by aligning with the Americans. The Americans did it to the Russias in Afghanistan by aligning with the Afghanis, etc. Now Iran is doing it in Iraq. Why are we getting so bent out of shape that Iran is doing it when we did it to the Russians? I am sure that there were some in Russia that wanted to kick our asses for supporting the Afghanis but wisely decided against it. It is questionable as to whether or not this administration has similar wisdom.

The US has to find other ways to hurt Iran without leaving footprints.

It isn't broken for chickenhawks sitting comfortably behind their computer monitors posting on the internet but for soldiers of their fourth or fifth extended tour it is a different story.
Slickster is so brave with other folks kids lives.

It isn't broken for chickenhawks sitting comfortably behind their computer monitors posting on the internet but for soldiers of their fourth or fifth extended tour it is a different story.

160,000 is about 6% of the armed services. Sounds like a lot of others are sitting around as well.

Slickster is so brave with other folks kids lives.
Is it all lives you are so concerned with or just those that you can use to futher you political hatred? When you express the same concern for others lives as your claim to have for the soldiers who voluntered and are deployed in Iraq, you can lecture me. But since you support the slaughter of innocent unborn children you sound foolish.

BTW, you are and always will be an idiot.

"From what I have been reading it is really Saudi ARabia that has sent the most people, arms and money to Iraq.
I could be wrong but I don't think I am."

If you're referring to the Saudi GOVERNMENT...yes, you are wrong. You have to remember that Bin Laden WAS a Saudi. He has been exiled and his citzenship taken away, long before 9/11, because he is an enemy of the royal family. Therefore, the Saudi government certainly IS NOT supporting Al Qaeda in Iraq. ALSO...Saudi Arabia is concerned about Iran and its nuclear ambitions. Iran is a fundamenalist SHIITE country and Saudi Arabia is Sunni. It doesn't figure that the Saudi government would be supporting radical Shiites in Iraq either.

Saudi Arabia's mistake in the past was allowing and supporting the Mullahs in operating the madrassas teaching Wahhabism for so many years. They did that because it kept the radicals from trying to overthrow the royal family. It has come home to bite them because they have been attacked by Al Quaeda themselves.

Now, are there radical factions in Saudi Arabia supporting terrorists in Iraq? You betcha...but it's not with government sanction.

"Although Bush administration officials have frequently lashed out at Syria and Iran, accusing it of helping insurgents and militias here, the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabia, according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers."

Absolutely correct. BUT, I say but, not as a policy of the Saudi government. If the radicals out of Saudi Arabia acting in Iraq are SUCCESSFUL, where are they likely to turn NEXT?

""Absolutely correct. BUT, I say but, not as a policy of the Saudi government.""

You have about as much proof of Iranian government approval of assistance to insurgents as you do Saudi, probably less because of the fact that the Iraqi government leans much more towards Iran than Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government would probably love to see the Shia majority government in Iraq fail but the Iranians probably would like to see it succeed.

Jest-
re: If the radicals out of Saudi Arabia acting in Iraq are SUCCESSFUL, where are they likely to turn NEXT?

Well, of course, they'll attack us here, instead of there, where we created them!

(You are such a tool for this administration's strategic catastrophe, and swallow every talking point whole, don't you?)

How long do you think Sunni/al Quaeda Saudi terrorists would last in a Shia theocratic state? (and, yes, that's the unfortunate likely outcome - a sharia-driven Shia state, thanks to you)

Boyd makes an error, "About 45% of all foreign militants targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia; 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa ..."

Wow! It is about time, and thank you, Boyd!

Finally, the Leftist/Demcoratics are acknowledging that this isn't just about al Qaeda!

I consider this, and Danni's agreement, a stepping-stone towards bipartisan honesty!

Indeed, to foster this newfound cooperation, I suggest we avoid the quibbling, petty differences used to misdirect, and call the terrorists Islamic Jihadists, and not "al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and a dozen or more other names the terrorists use like military designations.

That way, the Left won't be making fools of themselves by the equivalent of calling all our soldiers: war criminals, when they may be in the Army, Navy, Air Force or Coast Guard.

I know it will be hard to give up even this "little" lie of yours, but for the good of the country let's call them Jihadists or some other inclusive name like, "Inhuman Sacrificers of Islam" or "Mean Green?" (nah, the army wouldn't like that ...)

Tadowe-
Um...Saudi Arabia is an ally (should I link to a photo of a hand-holding session with Bush?)

Tadowe-
re:I suggest we avoid the quibbling, petty differences used to misdirect, and call the terrorists Islamic Jihadists, and not "al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and a dozen or more other names the terrorists use like military designations

...and recognize that this is about oil and, most prominently in your case, Israel?

Boyd show Taddy Boy the one where Dubya is kissing the Saudi Prince. That aught to scare Him.

Larry

""Absolutely correct. BUT, I say but, not as a policy of the Saudi government.""

You have about as much proof of Iranian government approval of assistance to insurgents as you do Saudi, probably less because of the fact that the Iraqi government leans much more towards Iran than Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government would probably love to see the Shia majority government in Iraq fail but the Iranians probably would like to see it succeed.

Posted by danni

wow danni that is just, i dont know. i mean this guy is there seeing the evidence working with other us military that is collecting and fighting killing capturing evidence of iran's involvement, yet you still call him a liar. mustang take care brother, i talk with our great military folks on a daily basis at the USO in the charlotte airport and i could not be more proud of the examples of the greatest citizens of this country. the recruits coming in after high school graduation are filling the uso everday all day as they head for paris island, fort jackson and so on. and thank you.

Did you notice in the article the following,
"Air Force and Navy personnel bound for combat-related duties with ground combat units in Iraq receive at least two weeks of combat training at one of 15 Army training centers around the United States."
Our non-combat trained guys get two weeks and are expected to perform and as far as I know they are doing a hell of a job.
We have been training Iraqi army and police for at least 5 years and they still do not have a reliable and effective force. What is going on?

I hear the Boys Scouts are available....

Our CIC has decided to degrade the military and the people in it by employing these bait and switch strategies. God forbid who treat our military personnel with anything approach basic respect.

What's with the "Existential Meltdown"-Tad?
you having a Geico moment or sommat?

Here's a dime-buy a clue.

Well scooter-if yer sooo proud of them-why don't you enlist and join in the "fight"?
Ah! USO-that's as far as you're willing to go?

AIRFORCE and NAVY turning into units to help out with the amry and marines....well this is what they call the BLUE to GREEN plan...its been in effect for a couple of years now....the reason is because the airforce and navy are slowly becoming (every man is a rifle man) crossed trained in infanrty...they see the importance of have every soilder be able to fight no matter what brance he serves in or what MOS he performs....which i think is good....to transfer to a green unit means more $$$$$$$....i think this is going to be the begining of intergrating all the branches into one service

oh by the way...to go into a green unit means you have to volenteer