No shit Corky.

I eagerly await the day when Bush and Repubs announce their withdrawl plan. I cannot wait for all the Boxies, the Derflaloikisfurbies, and even the Armedillos, to explain how this is different from "cut and run."

Oh, wait, it's different in the way that when a Republican has sex outside of marriage it's a "slip," and a sin for which one can be forgiven by prayer. But when a Democrat does it, it's grounds for impeachment.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are born equal, and that they are endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. -- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. -- Such has been the patient sufferance of these States and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present President of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

But when a Democrat does it, it's grounds for impeachment.

Posted by evashogouki at 2007-07-16 10:02 PM | Reply

Lying under oath to a grand jury is also grounds for impeachment. That's why Clinton was disbarred.

Not that anybody expects you to be honest.

Vermin! What's up?

Yeah, Bush fucked up the war, George. And you, how did you vote on the war? Were you a "stay the course, away game" dittohead, or did you speak up with your concerns?

I'm guessing the cheese was just too tasty to leave the Bushitanic until the water started reaching your neck, Senator.

5 minute Google search after Verm posted his words of wisdom:

Here is Verm's version of honest:


"If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is," Bush told reporters at an impromptu news conference during a fund-raising stop in Chicago, Illinois. "If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.


Updated: 5:24 a.m. PT July 19, 2005
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Monday that if anyone on his staff committed a crime in the CIA-leak case, that person will "no longer work in my administration." His statement represented a shift from a previous comment, when he said that he would fire anyone shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of a CIA officer.

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Thursday acknowledged publicly for the first time that someone in his administration likely leaked the name of a CIA operative, although he also said he hopes the controversy over his decision to spare prison for a former White House aide has "run its course."
"And now we're going to move on," Bush said in a White House news conference.
The president had initially said he would fire anyone in his administration found to have publicly disclosed the identity of Valerie Plame, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson and a CIA operative. Ten days ago, Bush commuted the 30-month sentence given to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby by a federal judge in connection with the case.


Ya know what I mean Verm?

"If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.


Briwo

When he said that we just assumed he meant the violator would be punished.

We shoulda known better.

Oh, okay Vern, I went from point A (blowjob) to point B (lying about said blowjob) without filling in the dots for you. My bad. 75 million of our dollars (you pay taxes, right Vern?) to investigate a BJ. That should have been investigated, right? No other president would ever taint the WH like old Bubba...

A pre-emptive war without end is much moral-er.

Eva

Technically, it's not a slip. It's a youthful indiscretion.

Even if it happened last week.

Hey Ted; you still banging that Georgette chick?

According to Joe Scarborough there are fewer than 10 republican senators who support the surge. The Congress will stall the next three weeks until their month long vacation. When they return after Labor Day it will be 11 days from the September 15th report.

The neo-cons will use the August shutdown to finalize plans for either a domestic terror attack or giving Israel the OK to bomb Iran.

There is no way Bush will ever admit defeat in Iraq. People think his continued swagger is because he is delusional. Actually he is well grounded knowing that the next step of the neo-con master plan will scare Congress into not opposing him the rest of his presidency.

Uh, that was a youthful indiscretion.

Man, was she HOT!

Good times, good times.

If you tell a lie it will come back to bite you. - The Last of the Highlanders

Lying under oath to a grand jury is also grounds for impeachment.

I thought it was ground sfor a commutation.

BTW- it's looking like the "augugst shut-down" being mentioned above may be filled by Al Qaeda's nefarious activites. AGAIN.

GI talk of long ago had SNAFU: Situation normal, all fucked up. The Bush war has achieved the next level, FUBAR: Fucked up beyond all recognition. herm

Oh, Yo Senator George Voinovich, the neocons are sure to take your heartfelt advice.

And we all know fucking up a war is so much worse than starting one that could have easily been avoided.

Oh, wait, it's different in the way that when a Republican has sex outside of marriage it's a "slip," and a sin for which one can be forgiven by prayer. But when a Democrat does it, it's grounds for impeachment.

Exaaaactly

There is no way Bush will ever admit defeat in Iraq. People think his continued swagger is because he is delusional. Actually he is well grounded knowing that the next step of the neo-con master plan will scare Congress into not opposing him the rest of his presidency for life.

Dubya reminds Me of a Child who got caught one too many times and subsequently Declares "Who Me I didn't do nuffin". God I am so thankful I am NOT a Bushite. Can You imagine the shame a Bushite must TRULY feel deep down. It must be the same feeling the Jim Jones and Charles Manson followers felt. Be brave Bushites Be Brave.

Larry

Can You imagine the shame a Bushite must TRULY feel deep down.

I think it has been proven out that the GOP is the family values, law and order and social conservative values party.


YOUR family values, law and order for YOU and Your conservative views.

For them, there is wiggle room.

""In private, Voinovich is more blunt, stating that the administration "fucked up" the war.""

And Voinovich cooperated 100% throughout the entire "fuck up." No oversight, even though billions were squandered, went unaccounted for, etc. If the Bush administration has fucked up while Voinovich's job was to oversee what they were doing then he is equally responsible and should resign.

_Al-Qaida is likely to continue to focus on high-profile political, economic and infrastructure targets to cause mass casualties, visually dramatic destruction, economic aftershocks and fear. "The group is proficient with conventional small arms and improvised explosive devices and is innovative in creating new capabilities and overcoming security obstacles."

_The group has been able to restore key elements it would need to launch an attack on U.S. soil: a safe haven in Pakistan's tribal areas, operational lieutenants and senior leaders.

We are the United States of America. The most powerful nation in the world. If I was the president and I knew this information to be fact. I would say FUCK YOU PAKISTAN. We are going in and taking this sons of bitches out. PERIOD. I would not care about diplomatic ties. If we know these assholes are hiding in the tribal areas. I would bomb them with everything weve got.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

Dubya reminds Me of a Child who got caught one too many times and subsequently Declares "Who Me I didn't do nuffin".

President Bart Simpson...

TedBaxter
the violater(armitage) was not even indicted----apparently libbies real crime was messin round with fitz---at this point there is no legal basis for sayin a crime was even commited
jasman

Election season is upon us, and someone wants to be re-elected. Throw Bush under the bus is going to be the official GOP sport for the next 15 months.

GWB is on a crusade, with God and Jesus on our side, we can not loose. After all, Jesus said something like, whoever lives by the sword will die by the sword. We just need to pay them back for using swords.

the violater(armitage) was not even indicted----apparently libbies real crime was messin round with fitz---at this point there is no legal basis for sayin a crime was even commited
jasman

What, lying before a grand jury is not a crime? If Libby is not guilty, why should Clinton have been? Am I missing something here?

Major Democrats bite their lips and take money from the same people feeding the Republicans. REAL Conservatives continue to provide lucid criticism of the only guy on the planet that would have lost an invasion of Grenada. FAKE Conservatives, which control most media spout nonsense to feed the monster Corporations, from your pocket. Their most important lie is that the private sector can do everything better than Government. Utilities, Justice, Prisons, Schools, Wars..... the crooks are cleaning up. Think about what we accomplished during WWII, a Government effort which cost $350 billion included: dry yeast, hundreds of thousands of jeeps, tanks, airplanes, radar, atomic weapons. Iraq is a bizzaro rationalization for stealing, from the Iraqi and American people. The criminals in charge have accomplished nothing, made things worse, lied about the real costs....wasting millions of lives and our futures.

"salvage his legacy"

So, should the actions of any President be based on how history will view them?

That's the problem with people. They just don't get it with Bush. He doesn't care what other people think when it comes to his actions.

How many times have we seen previous presidents take actions that were solely for the purpose of keeping good poll numbers?

If you don't like him, he doesn't care. If the polls don't like him, he doesn't care. If you want to get Bush to do something, you have to show him what he does care about and show the impact on THAT.

I've yet to see Congress target what he cares about most. Instead, they give him what he wants.

""AM I MISSING SOMETHING?""

No, that is a great plan for giving terrorists nuclear bombs.

As I stated last week, this is all part of the Lugar-Warner Bill to "require" the WH to come up with a plan to disengage, so the GOP can say that they were the ones to get the troops out, thereby maybe saving their jobs.

Reid and the rest of the Democrats in the Senate should say "NO" to the Lugar-Warner bill and get the damned job done themselves, like we elected them to do.

ScottsValleyBob
why was fitz even talkin to libby -fitz already knew who the leaker was-why didn't he find some staue to punish the leaker-yes libby was guilty(he couldn't remember about a crime that apparently not commited)
jasman