IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST!

Staples just dropped off over 100 paper shredders at the white house....

DEVOLOPING...

Why is it so hard for these people to understand that THEY WORK FOR US.

WE are Cheney's bosses. If he doesn't like it, he should have stayed out of the kitchen.

Sucubus: Don't try and deflect of the immorality of Cheney with an Edwards deflection.

Start an Edwards thread if you want, but this is about Cheney flaunting the law.

You're right Incy, we shouldn't pay any attention to the Executive branch breaking the law.

Hey, any updates on who has been sucking Bill's dick lately?

It ain't Hillary

I saw this on the news last night and started laughing out loud. He really believes he can do anything he wants and get away with it. But look, there are already some here coming to his defense.

He is also claiming that he is in government under judicial and executive branch. If he gets prosecuted I wonder if he will claim judicial as well.

Judicial=Legislative

I'm glad Cheney is a right winger because I'd hate to try to defend him.
Hmmmm...not so sure I don't wish Edwards was a right winger right now though.

"I'm glad Cheney is a right winger because I'd hate to try to defend him."

So you would defend a lying bag of shit like Cheney if he were a left winger?

cheney learned well from the subpoensa of the rose law firms of hillary note

he studied the best at dodging this kind of stuff

Oh goodie a Clinton deflection, I was wondering how long it would take.

Dear Senator Waxman:
Much as I would like to assist your little organization, I'm pretty busy now. Spring cleaning around here takes a lot of work. Add that on to my daily routine of running America, winning the Global War on People who Hate Us for Our Freedoms, while making sure the six people who still support him actually believe George is more than a meat puppet, and well you can see how a simple patriotic hero military genius like myself, with a shaky ticker and a new grandchild can't oblige.
Good luck on your new venture in Guantanemo!
Now go Fuck yourself:
Richard Cheney
Vice (yeah, like anybody belives that) President, Supreme Commander, and part time traitor.

Can't remember the comedian who said it, but he noted that a smart person would have a black man as a VP, cause no one would assasinate him and let a black become President.
Cheney is Bush's impeachment proofing niggah.

""So you would defend a lying bag of shit like Cheney if he were a left winger?""

Obviously that's why I even mentioned him and the article INCUBUS linked.
Tool.

He's gonna get away with it. Ol' Dick is the Dark Lord of D.C. At times, I just gotta step back and admire his anti-authoritarian streak. He's a bit of an anarchist.

The article says, "Cheney's office filed annual reports in 2001 and 2002 describing its classification activities but stopped filing in 2003, according to internal administration letters released Thursday. Cheney's office made the case that it is not covered because the vice president under the Constitution also serves as president of the Senate and therefore has both legislative and executive duties."

If Cheney's office "made the case" then what's the problem?

Either he is or isn't covered by the executive order. If the Congress and the executive branch believe Cheney's office is covered they should appeal to the courts to make a determination.

In the meantime, maybe the democrats should stop trying to criminalize political gamesmanship.

Right Bowa, I would love to read your post if this was a Dem VP pulling this shit.

Bowa,

You're a complete partisan tool. If Lush Rimshot says it, the words bounced straight outta your head. It's you and your ilk that are dragging this once great country down the toilet.

Pretty simple concept here: If the Office of the VP is not part of the executive branch then it's well past time for Cheney to get out of that seat and go home.

Briwo, Bowa blows a gasket and thanks the almighty just to have material such as John Edwards' $300 haircut. If he were given a story such as this about a Dem, he'd probably just keel over with a huge grin on his face.

Right Bowa, I would love to read your post if this was a Dem VP pulling this shit.

I would say yhr same thing -- stop criminalizing politics.

I don't like a lot of the things the democrats do -- but I am not accusing them of criminal activity just because they are playing hardball politics.

Yet the democrats do it all the time -- trying to criminalize the firing political appointees that serve at the pleasure of the president for example, or trying to suggest that the VP is enageged in criminal activity when all he seems to be doing is exploiting a grey area in the law for political gain -- which is what any democrat would do, should do, and weould be expected to do if given the opportunity.

This is NOT, let me repeat that for those with cranial density, NOT a grey area. The OVP is by definition part of the executive branch.

Ummmmmmm since the Vice President is the next in line to the Presidency and since the Vice President runs with the President while campaigning only a fucktard would not declare Him part of the executive Branch.

Larry

In the meantime, maybe the democrats should stop trying to criminalize political gamesmanship.
Posted by Bowa at 2007-06-22 10:56 AM


YEAH!

One thing comes to mind immediately!

That Energy Task Force thing from Cheney's office that's currently hidden behind "Executive Privilege"

Oops!

I thinks I see some "political gamesmanship" egg on thy face!

R'ville,

That's not egg.

"rying to criminalize the firing political appointees that serve at the pleasure of the president for example"

It takes a special type of tinfoil hat to not want to hear the truth from The Justice Department after they a) were forced to admit they lied about why the USAs were fired, and b) the next two things out of their mouths were We don't know who compiled that list and We don't know why that list was compiled.

Every American should demand the truth.

If Cheney's office "made the case" then what's the problem?
Bowa, making the case doesn't mean they proved anything, just they stated their side. Of course in your world, The Bushies are always judged pre-emptively right, so I can see your confusion.

This is another perfect example of how Bush/Cheney have operated since inauguration. Tell a lie and keep repeating it until enough people come to believe it truth. With weak-minded fools like Bowa, BL2 and others of like mind their job is made so much more simple.

What is it that surprises you about this story? Just what do you expect from a NAZI?

"I would say (the) same thing -- stop criminalizing politics."

No you wouldn't, and no you haven't. You've called Cheney's actions savvy political gamesmanship, yet called for Harry Reid's ouster for what you admitted was playing politics. Now I'll agree with you what Reid said was idiotic, but giving Cheney a pass while condemning Reid is the height of hypocracy.

INCUBUS_CON:
If you don't like the content on this site, then you can always post on Drudge Report.

Another idea here would go something like this: The primary raison d'etre for the ISOO is to ensure that classified information is safeguarded. Since Cheney declares that he is not part of the executive branch that is subject to this oversight then let the ISOO perform their function.

Effective immediately, Cheney, his office, his staff and all ancillary contacts will no longer have access or availability to/of classified information.

This would include:
Documents.
Electronic information.
Access to persons with classfied information.
WH internet/intranet access.
Access to the physical grounds of the WH.
Access to government buildings where classified information may be stored.
Access to the POTUS.


If Cheney is willing to go along with these conditions and any others that the ISOO feels needed, I'm perfectly willing to let him exclude himself from the Executive Branch.

"Obviously that's why I even mentioned him and the article INCUBUS linked."

You wrote the article Incubus linked?

and to think some people think bowa is a zealot lol

if cheney pooped on bowas head he would smile and thank cheney for the honor.

""You wrote the article Incubus linked?""

If you are too stupid to figure out what I meant the....oh well.

if cheney pooped on bowas head he would smile and thank cheney for the honor.

Posted by 503jc69 at 2007-06-22 12:10 PM


Bowa would have to actually remove his head first.

What is GWB's position on this or is he to afraid to speak up agaist his veep? If so, he is a high kicking, cheerleading, pus.y and the whole "decider" persona is just a self delusional salve to stroke is emasculated ego.

Fed: you pretty much described him to a T

so how many documents went down his pants?

Just for you partisan hacks. My point of asking what you're going to have to live for when you don't have Cheney or Bush to bash and posting the link on Edwards isn't to support Cheney.

The point is that THEY'RE ALL THE SAME!. Just like M & M's.... different color but that's where it ends....

Psst. an Incubus is an imaginary creature... Get it?

INCUBUS_CON:
If you don't like the content on this site, then you can always post on Drudge Report.

Posted by SamBarber at 2007-06-22 11:31 AM |


Oh, I enjoy the content on this site just fine.... I believe laughter is truly good medicine...even if it comes from the DIM.

So the 21st Century's Tricky Dicky isn't bound by Congress nor the Executive Branch's orders.

There is no defending this.

Dick Cheney's one-sentence treatise on American government: "I am the state."

I guess if he isn't part of the Executive Branch, he doesn't get to invoke Executive Privilege.

Doc -- Was that Richelieu's quote? Napoleon's? Stalin's?

Never mind, though. It suit's Viceroy Dicky to a tee.

All I can say is wow. Cheney makes Nixon look like a Boy Scout.

**** He's a bit of an anarchist.
ADAMS ****


.......more a Monarchist, thinks he got elected Emperor........

Actually, I think Cheney's real reasoning here is this: GWB and I weren't really elected, we were appointed. Thusly we don't have to follow ANY rules of law.

T&C --

Attributed to Louis XIV of France (L'etat -- c'est moi!). Even if he didn't say it (don't know for sure), he thought it.

Another one that might come in handy for Cheney's buttboy Bush is a beaut that was supposedly uttered by Louis XV. Asked what would happen when he passed from the scene --- answer: the French Revolution -- he supposedly replied, airliy, "Aprez moi --- le deluge!" (After me, the deluge, the catastrophe.)

Don't feed the troll folks....

Doc -- Good ones! (Louis was next on my guess parade, but all meglomaniacs think alike, no matter where they emerge.)

Is Vice President Dick Cheney too secretive?

Yes 83% 43855 votes

No 17% 8712 votes
Total: 52567 votes

CNN poll

That's incredible.... I didn't realize almost 53,000 people watched CNN.... Truly amazing if none of them voted twice or 3 times.

Bush, Cheney! Bush, Cheney.... What are you guys gonna have to live for when Bush and Cheney are gone in a couple of years?
Posted by Incubus_Con

Same question posed to you: What are you gonna have live for? You won't have their dicks to suck anymore...

""I didn't realize almost 53,000 people watched CNN.... ""

What rock have you been hiding under???
You weren't aware that CNN had 53,000 viewers??? You sound pretty disconnected from reality. Explains a lot.

"""Why is it so hard for these people to understand that THEY WORK FOR US.""""

Christ on a stick, you still believe that shit?! It seems that you might be the one out of the loop and needing to understand that the last person they are working for is you.

Viva la revolution.

What's it take to get a few articles like this on this Blog?

Posted by Incubus_Con

Um...for you to post it? Do you know how to start a thread?

So when is he moving his office out of the White House?

Has he declined the use of Air Force Two?

Protection of the Secret Service needs to be canceled.

You've called Cheney's actions savvy political gamesmanship, yet called for Harry Reid's ouster for what you admitted was playing politics. Now I'll agree with you what Reid said was idiotic, but giving Cheney a pass while condemning Reid is the height of hypocracy.

What reid said (and continues to say) on Iraq is unforgivable and goes way beyond poltical gamesmanship because it involves showing a callous indifference for the lives of the 160,000 soldiers in harms way.

As a letter in todays NY post said, "Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's remarks are not just ill-timed, they're unconscionable ("Harry-Kiri Reid," Editorial, June 17).

It's only in the last few days that the final brigade combat team responsible for implementing the "surge" of U.S. forces in Iraq has been deployed.

As such, Reid's comments would be akin to Gen. Eisenhower having been disparaged by foes of FDR while our forces were still on the beaches during D-Day.

No political leader during World War II would have dared to utter such remarks, to the delight of our enemies, at so perilous a time.

That Reid could make such comments without complete condemnation by members of the Democratic Party, especially its presidential candidates, is staggering. Their so-called support of the troops rings hollow -- Jim Kelsch,West Chester, Pa."

As for Cheney -- I am not giving him a pass -- he's playing hardball politics, and the democrats are hitting back in the lame way they always seem to do -- throw accusations out -- and then never do the legwork that would be required to prove them. Wasn't it a Democrat that used the phrase "where's the beef?" Well, where is it? All we get is accusations -- but scratch the surface and there is nothing to them -- whether it's AG firings, signing statements, or Cheney ignoring an executive order -- it's all the same. The democrats are just pissed because the executive branch is playing politics better then they are.

And in this case, all I'm saying is that what Cheney did is not "criminal" or even out of line -- so all the phoney anger and bluster suggeting that Cheney is illegally refusing to comply with an executive order falls on deaf ears. It's a joke.

What the Democrats need to do is stop whining to the press and start challenging these political manuevers by the adminsitration in the courts. This is a separation of power issue -- and the only way to resolve it is through the judicial branch.

And BTW, I don't even think Cheney is hiding anything. I think the there is so much bad blood and hostility between the executive branch and the democrats in Congress that the Bushies are going to stonewall and stick it to the democrats every chance they get -- just because they can. And the democrats are going to do the same right back to them.

It's pathetic, juvenile and irresponsible. It's also one of the reason why Congress has a 14% approval and Bush has barely double that. America is just sick of it already -- from both branches -- the Congress and the president.

""And BTW, I don't even think Cheney is hiding anything.""

I'm sure that if it were a Democrat that was doing the same thing you would be consistent. Who do you think you are kidding???

"America is just sick of it already -- from both branches -- the Congress and the president."

You forgot the branch of government that claims Cheney. His own branch, if memory serves me.

And BTW, I don't even think Cheney is hiding anything.

said the zealot BOWA

That is the most irresponsible statement from you by far. Son, I suggest you see a shrink, not a spin doctor.

It's pathetic, juvenile and irresponsible

Posted by Bowa at 2007-06-22 05:39 PM

That's quite an accurate description of the bush "presidency".

So Congress has known about this since 2003, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY get in power and say no impeachment!!!

Who are they kidding, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is complicitly letting this law breaking go unpunished. They are allowing our laws to be broken and don't care.

This is the party we want leading our nation?

What do you do when a cop turns his head when he sees robbery going on and everyone knows about it?

The state of our nation is in very sad shape. Our representatives won't even take law breakers to task. And this is what most on this sight support.

Now, how do we teach our children about breaking the law?

MONEY... "Now, how do we teach our children about breaking the law?"

We've been teaching them to say "F*CK the law" since Bush got into office...

Now it's the Democrat's fault that the leader of this once great country has repeatedly broken the law, then hid behind his office...

Now the vice President is saying that he doesn't care what anyone says and this is somehow the fault of the Democrats...

That is some real logical thinking; you should get a job on FOX noose...

Captain,

Nice twist to the point I was actually making.

If you witness a crime and do nothing are you not in some way part of that crime?

It is particularly wrong when the members of our government do nothing when the law is broken, they are the very people who are there to protect society.

Long unseen consequences always results when the right thing is ignored for fear and political purposes.

cheney learned well from the subpoensa of the rose law firms of hillary note

he studied the best at dodging this kind of stuff

Posted by cheka at 2007-06-22 10:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Refresh my memory, when was Hillary Clinton elected to the office of president or vice president?

Exactly. Sit down, and thanks for playing.

Either he is or isn't covered by the executive order. If the Congress and the executive branch believe Cheney's office is covered they should appeal to the courts to make a determination.

In the meantime, maybe the democrats should stop trying to criminalize political gamesmanship.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-06-22 10:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

You can always be counted on to contradict yourself within two sentences.......at least you're consistent, fuckhead.

MONEY ... "Nice twist to the point I was actually making."

I thought so ...

MONEY ... "If you witness a crime and do nothing are you not in some way part of that crime?"

It seems that they are trying to do something about it, isn't that what this thread's article pertains to?

MONEY ... "It is particularly wrong when the members of our government do nothing when the law is broken, they are the very people who are there to protect society."

Yes, and for the last twelve years we've seen corruption in congress and for the last six and a half years an Executive branch that has broken the law at will, flaunted their disregard for the Constitution, help to erode civil liberties and murdered hundreds of thousands of human beings ... And, the Democratic lead (by a sliver) Congress has been in place 6 months (give-or-take)?

If the Republicans hadn't left such a mess the Democrats wouldn't have so much to clean up ... Maybe you should right your Congressman ...

MONEY ... "Long unseen consequences always results when the right thing is ignored for fear and political purposes."

OMG ... I said that VERY THING about 9/11!!!

I guess Moneywars logic is that since the democrats have let the republicans break the law, it is better to keep the republicans in office so they can keep on breaking the law and the democrats can keep on letting them.

actually I think Moneywar is just so pissed off at this nonsense by our Elected Officials he is beginning to hate them all.

Money- there are still folks in public office with integrity...they are just hard to find sometimes.

I believe that Redneck has hit the nail on the head tho.. Cheney could no longer claim Executive Privilege if he was not part of the Executive Branch.

Fact is he is part of the Executive Branch and he is part of the Senate.

The fact that he tried to eliminate the Agency that was trying to enforce the law tells volumes though about the way these folks work.

Interesting to also note that he validated the policy that was in force before him by first filing the reports...but something made him change his mind and STOP following established policy.

Cheney has forgotten that he does work for We the People...

And he if he doesn't have anything to hide then he shouldn't worry right?

Oh yeah that only applies to the little people....

I think Cheney's half artificial parts. He sure doesn't have a heart that works in good conscience. Maybe it's that pesky pacemaker. He had them set it on 'full evil' before putting it in. A new and improved 'evil hear box' is being implanted in him soon I read.

'Evil HEART box'

Darth cheney thinks he's above the law. KKKarl rove and a ton of others use the RNC servers to hide it from the records law and now they electronically shred all but 130 of 140,216? IMPEACH them all!