Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, May 19, 2007

Former President Carter says President Bush's administration is "the worst in history" in international relations, taking aim at the White House's policy of pre-emptive war and its Middle East diplomacy.

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Can I get an "Amen" !!!!!!!

Carter is way down to the bottom of the list of best presidents. He is just happy that Dubya is even under him, pushing Carter up the list.
At least Carter practices his Christanity, unlike Dubya who only calls himself Christian.

Jimmy Carter?

This is like a Pinto trying to crack on a Yugo.

WOW. I agree with Vernon.

Time to go back to rehab.

I found Bush on the evolutionary ladder.

I should restate.

I found Bush under the right (of course) leg of said ladder.

When am amoeba snubs you, that is bad!!

Amen! As for President Carter...at least that is a man who LIVES his religion, unlike a certain current occupant of the White House who is a complete hypocrite. Mr. Carter doesn't pose holding a hammer for photo ops...he is out there building homes for Habitat For Humanity because that's the kind of person he really is. He may not have been a great president, but at least he is a good person. Which is more than I can say for the current occupant of the White House, who is neither a good person nor even a mediocre president.

True, except Yugos were designed and built to last exactly 40,000 miles, and Pintos for 70.

disturbing. probably inappropriate. surprising. accurate.

I'd love to see Carter and Bush in a fist fight. Everyone says Carter is such a wimp, but my money would be on Carter. Bush is all talk and swagger. At least Carter knows how to swing a hammer.

Answer: "This is like a Pinto trying to crack on a Yugo."

Question: What happens when someone attempts logic on a vernon calculator?

Just watch a show CNN show on e coli, etc. in our food supply which has increased waaaaaaaaaay up since ((( drumroll))) -- 2003. Hmmmm, just after Bush took office and it's been going downhill ever since.

NEVER has any President so tried to destroy every government agency we have established.

Bush wants to push his Republican economic theory that if you make can make any government agency look bad enough -- understaff them, make inept corporate donors as head of the agency -- then Bush can take down each government agency, privatize it and eventually destroy the government.

As Bush has done with food safety and the FDA, he is intentionally defanging it and our other U.S. government agencies and making them almost worthless thru his idea of having their rules/regulations on a "voluntary basis" only.

The Bush goes ahead and ruins these agencies (FDA, FEMA, VA, etc.) and then says: "See, government does't work, we need to privatize them all" and then his corporate buddies come in and take them over, suck all they can out of these former government agencies, and destroy them.

IMPEACH WHILE WE STILL HAVE A COUNTRY LEFT

...Time will tell how effective Bush has been. Right now it's easy to pile on.

"Time" is not what we need. Time is not on the side of the American people as it gets worse every day Bush is left in office. Everyday it's more corruption and more damage is done to every possible section of our population -- senior citizens, our military, the middle class, the American worker -- to all Bush is a DISASTER.

we have NO more time left to "wait and see" -- impeach while we still have a country left that hasn't been sold off to foreign corporate interests or downsized and privatized into oblivion.

IMPEACH - what are we waiting for???
more damage??

This is like a Pinto trying to crack on a Yugo.

Posted by vernon


At least you admit that the man you voted for is a piece of shit.

I thought that would get a rise out of a few...........

Posted by OohRah at 2007-05-19 09:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

What are you talking about?

NOBODY has responded to your post with the exception THIS one.

Boorah-Bush is so Christ-like. Loves the top 2% in income, his base, his words not mine. Just like Christ.
Loves torture, like Christ.
Loves to use fear to get support, like Christ.
Ignores the mothers of dead soldiers, just like Christ.
The only sect that acts Christian nowdays are the Amish.
Name one thing Christian Bush has ever done?

Georgie, Jimmy, bah, Billy would have been a better leader than either.

I for one am thoroughly disgusted that the Democrats we elected to IMPEACH BUSH. to end the WAR, and to stop illegal immigrants has wimped out. All we have is an extension of the Bush administration.
Has anything changed? All these "No Confidence" votes and "non binding" troop withdrawals are shameful.
We have a carbon copy of what we had before the last election. From the word "GO", Nancy Pelosi stated that impeachment of Bush was ,"not on the table" What right did she have to decide that by herself?
Has everyone seen the article about the White House opposing raises for our soldiers, with the statement,"It isn't necessary."

Anyone with an I.Q. over 50 should know that this is the worst President in our history. Wait another 10 years, Historians will make it clear to the right wing idiots that think Bush is doing a good job, of what a joke this presidents has been. Wait again until the clowns that served this president, start writing there books once this clown is out of office. History will take care of this idiot, even though as long as it the law this clown should be impeached, not because he is an idiot but because clearly he has defied our Constitution...It the law IMPEACH the bastard!!!!!!!!

"I'd love to see Carter and Bush in a fist fight."

I suspect Junior's Daddy would figure out a way to get him out of that fight too.

You have to always view Bush and his rotten Presidency in combination with Cheney.

Each one fed the worse traits in the other and each gave the other the needed opportunities and encouragement so that when paired together we have got the:

Worst U.S. President ever -- a delusional, tunnel-visioned, cocky, selfish, multi-millionaire trustfund baby, lazy, shiftless, and arrogant former fratboy and cowboy wannabe

joined at the hip at the same time on the world's stage with the

Worst U.S. Vice President ever -- a sly, cunning, selfish, devious, bloodthirsty, powerhungry, warprofiteering major LIAR

Together the two have made history as the worst possible Prez and VP to ever be nominated and "selected" into office.

"And Hans, I sent Bob's photos your way."

OohRah... Pictures received.

Many, many thanks!

Hans

"Reality distorts my sense of television." - Zippy the Pinhead

Well said, Celisary.

I have deep respect for Carter. He is a true Christian and have a sense of mission in using his achievement in life to further the cause of human alleviation from poverty and suffering.

I have no doubt George Bush is a genuine believer too.

Both may be presidents, but their callings are different.

Here is a principle. (do not compare, just the principle).

Prophet Habakuk was lamenting the situation in Judah (Southern Kingdom; the North, Israel has already been scattered by Assyria). Then God shows up and revealed that He is preparing Babylon to conquer and punish Judah for her sins and idolatry. In essence, Habakuk reacted just like many Americans who are against the war: God, you can't do that; I can't believe you will do that. But God has determined it and brought the Chaldeans to conquer and exile the Jews to Babylon (By the rivers of Babylon, etc, Psalm 137).

The embedded journalists... I mean witnesses/prophets --- Jeremiah in Jerusalem telling the people not to resist the invaders; Ezekiel among the exiles explaining his visions what is going on in Judea and why God punished the people; Daniel and friends in the White House in Babylon.

The God of history is still overseeing events in the modern world.

America, you are not and have not been perfect; but you are the salt of the earth and the light of the world. That is your role.

America, you are spending billions in this war. But God prospered you in the first place, and God will repay you for all that you have done for the world with good intentions.

God bless America!

Tony Blair is a true lion that roared. God will reward Britain with a soon coming revival among believers. And many will be impacted.

Jimmy Carter... enough said.

God will reward Britain with a soon coming revival among believers.

Is he going to resurrect Jerry Falwell?

A really sad statement. No class. Go back to your f'n peanuts.

And Now a reading from the Book of Nicey...

Chapter 13 Verse 69

"Tony Blair is a true lion that roared. God will reward Britain with a soon coming revival among believers. And many will be impacted.

it goeth on...

And Lo the true believers shall sit down and dine upon spam, spam, spam, eggs, fresh aardvark sausages and spam and assorted breakfast cereals and all shall be made jolly but among the puling liberal non-true-believers there shall only be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and just a whole lot of bitching, generally all around, and for breakfastthey shall only have a bit of cold porridge with suspicious grey lumps in it.

And Takitez wept from the shadenfreude of it all.

Even though it had only been a dream.

Be Well.

TAKTIZ:


Wow






speechless!!




Remember this, it may not happen again.

TAKTIZ:


Wow






speechless!!




Remember this, it may not happen again.

I already posted this story, RCade. Quit stealing my thunder.

JC is jealous !!! It's hard giving up the title of worst president ever after having it for many decades.

Seriously, are Bush, Carter and Nixon worse than Buchanan? (Yes, we did have a president Buchanan for those of you in Rio Linda).

"I already posted this story, RCade. Quit stealing my thunder. WWAAAAAAA."


12 year olds aren't supposed to post here. This is an adult newsblog.

Posted by ness_gadol at 2007-05-19 04:45 PM | Reply

"I already posted this story, RCade. Quit stealing my thunder. WWAAAAAAA."

Did you leave your sense of humor inside your mother with your placenta or something?

Oh, that's right, you're just a PWZ reject troll.

Piss off, sweet cheeks.

By the way: the whole "adding something to another's post with quotation marks to make it seem like it was actually posted" deal...that's priceless. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that before. You get a gold star for creativity.

Carter was an excellent President, uniting the country after the fuck-ups of Nixon Ford. He had to deal with the economy left to him from Nixons war and he did a great job until Reagan gave away the store to all his buddies like the Bushie twins did after him. Reagans best trick was in having Iran hold the hostages until his innauguration before releasing them---sweet political move---not so hot on the hostages who had to wait for the day though.

But Carter? Much better than Reagan---Reagan had Alzheimers from day One of his Presidency--couldn't even keep awake for cabinet meetings. Better than the crook Nixon or the bumbling liar Ford from the Warren commission. Carter was better than the pedophile first Bush who broke his campaign promise not to raise taxes as he molested children on the side. Carter was better than Bushie whose exploits have been poorly received by the world, though Jeff Gannon assures one and all that he receives Bushie quite well, and vice-versa.

'Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?'
The Prez

As for Carter, he is a good man.

Bush can't yet be the "worst in history".

Leave some room for Dubya to get even worser by striking Iran pre-emptively.

I remember the foreign relations practiced by the great international statesman, Billy Carter. Libya. Billygate.

So, Jimmy knows "worst".

Jimmy Carter inherited record inflation and a nation trying to get over Vietnam.

George Bush inherited record surpluses and a nation
at peace.

Jimmy Carter has never been caught in a lie and lives his life in a Christian way.

George Bush has been caught in lie after lie and lives his life in a most unChristian way.

'nuff said

And say what you will about Carter's attempt to rescue the hostages. I was in military intelligence and had lived in Tehran just prior to the Shah's overthrow. They moved the hostages daily, and they were split up all over Tehran and Iran in general.

Reagan traded missles with Iran. You Carter naysayers think that was a prudent move after taking our hostages? Then he lied about it? Reagan also skyrocketed the national debt from the billions into the trillions during his term.

Get real.

RCade:
Where is the "troll" flag?

I lived through the Carter years, and let me tell you, it was no fun. The economy as I recall, was terrible. Having a CD in a bank was better than in the stock market during that time cuz bank interest reached a peak to around 15 percent. Inflation, that was around 18 percent. Hard to get a loan because the interest rates were so high.

I think Jimmy is seeking a little revenge over his debacle as President with economics and foreign policy, so he is being critical of Bush. Jimmy helped the radicals take over Iran. America during the Carter years in the eyes of internationalists was worst than it is now...

Mikewarrior---You must have been drunk during Carters years because your memory is certainly falutly. Carter had to deal with the economy left him by Nixon/Ford--the Shah of Iran situation had been brewing since long before Carter took office and he did nothing to "help the radicals take over Iran", and as far as the international view of the US during the Carter years---Jimmy had them shaking hands and making peace during his Presidency

en.wikipedia.org

"Jimmy Carter inherited record inflation and a nation trying to get over Vietnam." Posted by ANAMERICAN

I don't know where you were in 1976, but you're not talking about the same Jimmy Carter that was elected in the United States in 1976. In 1980, while he was in office, the prime rate reached 21%, the highest in history. The VA rate for home loans was 17%. This is from Encylopedia Americana:

"On assuming office in 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. He had severely criticized former President Ford for his failures to control inflation and relieve unemployment, but after four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were considerably worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign. Although Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion. With approximately 8 million people out of work, the unemployment rate had leveled off to a nationwide average of about 7.7% by the time of the election campaign, but it was considerably higher in some industrial states."

ahh yes the Carter years the misery index remember that? and Iran not under the rule of religious fanatics...

Jestgettinalong---as your post indicates---the inflation was already started under Nixon/Ford. What specific legislation can you point to that shows Carter to be responsible for the rates you specify. He was just blamed for the fuck-up of the previous administrations.

Jimmah Cahtah is doing his best to relinquish his title of "Worst" to Bush, but it just won't fly. Bush is certainly no paradigm, but Jimmah is still "Worst" in MY lifetime.

"He was just blamed for the fuck-up of the previous administrations."

Right, HOWDY, Kinda like Bush is just blamed for the fuck-up of the previous administrations...right? OR, are you applying some double standard here?

Allow me to point out and explain the first sentence above to you again:

"On assuming office in 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession."

The key phrase is the one that says, "...INHERITED AN ECONOMY THAT WAS SLOWLY EMERGING FROM A RECESSION." EMERGING, Howdy, EMERGING from a recession. That means it was coming out of a recession. The EMERGING stopped and reversed when Jimmah took office. Get it???


Just
Up to the Carter years, the Keynesians insisted that inflation and recession could not happen at the same time, yet it did. After Fed chairman Arthur Burns died, Carter replaced him with a guy named Miller who proceeded to follow the Keynesian prescription of flooding the economy with money to induce spending. Miller's term was brief, followed by Volcker in the Reagan era. Volcker cut back on money creation and Reagan eliminated price controls on energy.

I think it is true that Carter inherited the massive debt from the Vietnam years. Keynesian ideology and price controls did the rest. It is hard to say who was the worst president because there is such a rich supply to choose from. Carter does have one positive distinction: he is the only president since Eisenhower who did not get us involved in a foreign war.

Carter does have one positive distinction: he is the only president since Eisenhower who did not get us involved in a foreign war

true ray however he did think that khomeini was so much better than the shah that now we have iran under the control of the mullahs


thanks jimmie as if the misery index wasnt enuff,,,,and i guess the debacle in the desert dont qualify as a military intervention,,,,,

Jimmy Carter was a lousy President who compounded his failure by becoming a lousy ex-President.

Question: What happens when someone attempts logic on a vernon calculator?

Posted by Hans at 2007-05-19 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag

Answer: You think your 401k plan earns 200% annually.

"however he did think that khomeini was so much better than the shah that now we have iran under the control of the mullahs"

Then you should have no trouble coming up with a Carter quote, circa 1979, in which he says Iran is better off with Khomeini than with the Shah, right?

There was nothing Jimmy Carter could have done to keep the Shah in power. That was up to the Shah, who blew it.

We blew it in Iran in 1953.

Question: What happens when someone attempts logic on a vernon calculator?

Posted by Hans at 2007-05-19 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag

Answer: You think your 401k plan earns 200% annually.

Posted by JimmyWallback

Plus or minus 0.00000036%

"Keynesian ideology and price controls did the rest."

I don't think anyone really understood Keynes although we were clearly in some kind of post-Keynesian period during Carter. Roosevelt spent much time with Keynes and said afterward, "I didn't understand a word the man said." Keynes himself never solved cost-push, demand-pull inflation before his death.

"... he is the only president since Eisenhower who did not get us involved in a foreign war."

Eisenhower? I made my first landing in Vietnam in 1958. We were, of course, unarmed during that time. We flew much electronic surveillance etc. all through the late 50's. You might say Carter didn't get us into a foreign war, but the 1979 Iran crisis certainly wasn't handled well. It resulted in the first time Muslims gained control of a Middle Eastern country and we can see what has resulted since. Iran really has become the boil on the world's butt.

Cheka
I think you are slanting that quite a bit. I don't recall anything during that time when Carter thought Khomeni was better than the Shah. Maybe you can clarify?

The Shah was popularly despised by Iranians as a tyrannical US puppet. When he died, he had no successor. So the American embassy was the obvious target for expressing hatred towards American meddling.

"Jimmy Carter was a lousy President who compounded his failure by becoming a lousy ex-President."

I always considered him an inept president but an honorable man until he started making all these junkets and bad-mouthing the U.S. in foreign countries. He needs to build some more habitat and be quiet.

Just
It resulted in the first time Muslims gained control of a Middle Eastern country and we can see what has resulted since. Iran really has become the boil on the world's butt.

You're blaming Carter for that? Iran was a Muslim country long before Carter. In my view, the world's butt has two boils: Israel and the US.

I always considered him an inept president but an honorable man until he started making all these junkets and bad-mouthing the U.S. in foreign countries.

It sounds like Just is from the America-can-do-no-wrong crowd.

It sounds like Just is from the America-can-do-no-wrong crowd.

As determined by a person from the "America-can-do-no-right" crowd no doubt.

Hardly a valid criticism from Bowa who knows shit about right and wrong - and pathetically doesn't have any interest in the difference. In Bowaworld, if you haven't conquered the country you invaded, you've lost.

"It sounds like Just is from the America-can-do-no-wrong crowd."

No, RAY, I just remember my momma's advice about "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all." Why can't Jimmah keep it in house instead of spouting how evil America is to our enemies in THEIR countries. I expect something like that from Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore, but not from a former president, for Pete's sake.

but Jimmah is still "Worst" in MY lifetime.

Posted by jestgettinalong at 2007-05-20 08:29 AM | Reply | Flag:


you are being way to limited....he was the worst president in 100 years.

and for all you young whippersnappers who dont 'know shit' about that time except for still being at 'yo moma's tit'.....

unemployment was at record highs

we didnt pay 3 bucks for a gallon of gas.WE SAT IN LINE FOR HOURS JUST HAPPY TO GET SOME

a dismantled military 'highlighted' by a picture of choppers blown out of the sky

a NATIONAL DISGRACE Of hostages being taken by a country that used to be our ally before carter gave up the shah....
and when the allytolah said that after the hostages were taken, he expected THUNDER FROM THE WEST and all he got was carter on his knees asking....oh please give them back.....pretty pleaaaaase....

and it is always mentioned ...something about a nobel peace prize.....WHAT WAS THAT PEACE THING ABOUT>......WAS THAT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST? whatever became of that anyway?????????

and finnaly.......you have NEVER read a comment from bush 41 about our CONVICTED LIAR PRESIDENT.....blow job billy.....and you wont read anything like this from 43 either for a simple reason.......carter and of course clinton.....
HAVE NO CLASS and thats proven everytime carter opens his mouth and clinton opens his fly.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.....

here is how a person with CLASS handles situations like this.

just MOMENTS AGO..........chris wallace asked oconner what she thought about the current court chipping away on wade v. roe....and she had this answer..

It is not my role to comment on what this court may or may not do..........


will we ever hear a democratic ex pres use the same judgement and civility and CLASS when they are asked questions??

"Iran was a Muslim country long before Carter." Posted by RAY

Was it ruled by RADICAL Muslims, Ray? Are you a SELECTIVE reader? Here, read up on their leaders of today:
www.matthiaskuentzel.de

"In my view, the world's butt has two boils: Israel and the US."

How did I guess that would be your view, Ray?? Your reasoning is very suspect, Ray. I expect you would cast a vote for Ahmdinejad for president and Chavez for vice president, wouldn't you? Seek therapy, it'll make you feel better.

In Bowaworld, if you haven't conquered the country you invaded, you've lost.

No Ray, that is not something I would support. I don't think the US has an interest in conquering and colonizing other nations. Nor should it.

However, I do believe that the policy and course of action followed by Bush after 9/11 was the right one -- but much of the intel was wrong , the strategy flawed and unrealistic and the implementation riddled with errors and mismanagement.

BUSHLOVER:

My Goodness but you're easily impressed!

"unemployment was at record highs"

BRRRRRRRING! Wrong again. Try the Dirty Thirties. Also, highest unemployment rate among US civilian population during Carter's term: 8.5%. Highest under Raygun: 9.7%
www.colorado.edu

"we didnt pay 3 bucks for a gallon of gas.WE SAT IN LINE FOR HOURS JUST HAPPY TO GET SOME" First OPEC oil embargo: 1973. President: Nixon.

"before carter gave up the shah...." Carter was responsible for the Iranian revolution?

something about a nobel peace prize.....WHAT WAS THAT PEACE THING ABOUT>......WAS THAT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST? whatever became of that anyway?????????" Read the citation: archives.cnn.com


Just
Why can't Jimmah keep it in house instead of spouting how evil America is to our enemies in THEIR countries.

Because American foreign policy has turned evil. If he can bring foreign pressure on Washington, so much the better. Integrity is not one of his faults.

"here is how a person with CLASS handles situations like this."

bushitlover2 commenting on "class" (or "CLASS") is like Bill Clinton commenting on marital fidelity.

Hans

"In my view, the world's butt has two boils: Israel and the US."

Jest, I doubt if any Liberal here would like to live ina world without the US, without the Constitution, without the promises of freedom and liberty outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

"It is not my role to comment on what this court may or may not do.........."

Class? That's not "class." That's what's called "dodging the question."

Bowa
No Ray, that is not something I would support. I don't think the US has an interest in conquering and colonizing other nations. Nor should it.

From the time you've been posting here, I've seen you as childishly naive. All you do is make excuse for the lies. No country in all history has maintained a standing army of this magnitude without intentions of conquest.

"The number of countries that the United States has a presence in is staggering. According the U.S. Department of State's list of "Independent States in the World," there are 192 countries in the world, all of which, except Bhutan, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea, have diplomatic relations with the United States. All of these countries except one (Vatican City) are members of the United Nations. According to the Department of Defense publication, "Active Duty Military Personnel Strengths by Regional Area and by Country," the United States has troops in 135 countries."
Source

Class? That's not "class." That's what's called "dodging the question."

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2007-05-20 09:35 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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you say this just because you are used to carter and clinton having diarea of the mouth ..
but I will give him this....at least he didnt run off out of the country to say like they usually do......

Jest, I doubt if any Liberal here would like to live ina world without the US, without the Constitution, without the promises of freedom and liberty outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Well we do live in a nation where the Constitution is ignored and our liberties are constantly being restricted. Bowa is living in a bubble.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN..

(dont you just love it when I start a post with that?)


lets look back at a prior post....


tomorrow at the preakness..

lets see....street sense is 7 to 5 morning line....so no win bet there and he just ran the best race of his life two weeks ago.....which I OF COURSE predicted right here..........BUT when I shoot the best score ever on the golf course.....I rarely shoot better the next time.....and of course...I of the TWO holes in one...or hole in one'S.,,..( did we ever decide which one was correct?)......can shoot a best score at any time....
so I will put street sense in exoitics but no better than third......and put curline and hard spun on top with a saver on key to the roxy.........so there you go.......not too many political sites can you get such tips....and for no costs.............


and of course the results were.

curlin
street sense
hard spun...


damn...am I good or what??????

and just remember this when i give all of you FREE TIPS when its time for the belmont.

"If he can bring foreign pressure on Washington, so much the better."

He can do that while remaining here. The foreign news services certainly would print it. I notice he's not going to any of our allies to make those speeches either. I'm not sure just what his objective is.

"Integrity is not one of his faults."

I used to think so, I'm just not sure whether he's kinda "losin' it" or what he's trying to accomplish with those speeches. He certainly isn't helping the U.S. in either case. I don't care whether it harms Bush or not, but the damage to the country remains after Bush is gone.

"damn...am I good or what??????"

I think this falls into the "or what" category.

Hans

The BLT Triple Crown:
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Just
For the record, I have no respect for Carter. On this one issue of interventionism, he think he is doing Americans a service. Rather than blame the messenger, shouldn't your anger be towards the thugs in Washington?

I don't care whether it harms Bush or not, but the damage to the country remains after Bush is gone.

No matter which party is in power, the Bush legacy will probably continue. America has crossed the Rubicon into the Age of Empire.

doc...while your little pics were cute and all that........and hans....your comment is just sour grapes because I am good at something........

the fact is...I was RIGHT AGAIN.....and well....modesty prevents me from talking about all the other times I am correct.
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"modesty prevents me from talking about all the other times I am correct."

BLT, "modesty" is not a synonym for "paucity of material."

"because I am good at something"

Converting heterosexual women into lesbians.

its too bad that you two knuckleheads arent in range....I would give both of you nuggies........
well maybe not because doc's probably bald and lisa.....well me touching here would be her dream coming true......hee hee.........
and she just might be getting some of those MIDDLE AGE bald spots too..........yuk yuk..........

"your comment is just sour grapes because I am good at something........"

Most people don't consider excelling at being the class ("CLASS") clown, something good.

Oh, well, to each his own.

Hans

i, on the other hand...or hands...or sumthin...hee hee...am well endowed...at least in the hairinasty department...hee hee,
yrs,
BLT
accordionguy.blogware.com

damn doc............why did you post a picture that you must keep right by you on the toilet........get it......

HEY LISA>>>>>>Doc has a picture of a guy there that looks like he is just right for you.............

or is that LARRY?????????????


oh oh......damn.......I am ON this morning................

"oh oh......damn.......I am ON this morning................"

Meth.

Hans

Hey Bushlover?

Unlike you, I put more stock into someones character than I do their looks.

I've seen your picture. Remember? If I judged by looks, I would never speak to you.


"I've seen your picture. Remember? If I judged by looks, I would never speak to you."

Zing, Lisa!! Good call.

How's Mike doing?

Hans

Mike is doing well so far, Hans.

His pain meds are a blessing!!

He sees (no pun intended) the doc today at 1pm. Yesterday, the doctor said his eye is mending well for 12 hours post surgery. We are doing everything to make sure he'll not get that eye infected.

I pray he can see out of it once it heals completely!!

Hey you liberals, take off the blinders. Remember, as an incumbant, he was voted out of office after only one term in a landslide defeat.

So much for his great presidency. Americans couldn't wait to be rid of him.

Sorry, but I forgot to mention in my last post that I was referring to Jimmy Carter.

Americans couldn't wait to be rid of him [Carter].

If the voters knew Bush then like they know him now, the Democrats would have been able to nominate a corpse and win.

Former Sen. Fred D Thompson for President

So much for his great presidency. Americans couldn't wait to be rid of him.

Posted by Republican4ever


It was all publicity over the failed rescue attempt---bad timing for Carter. But the country got Reagan and the highest national debt in history, attacks on American labor, billions given to bin Laden and terrorism, Iran Contra, and a brain dead President that looked good on TV.
After Carter we elected a hair style.

So much for his great presidency. Americans couldn't wait to be rid of him.

Posted by Republican4ever


It was all publicity over the failed rescue attempt---bad timing for Carter. But the country got Reagan and the highest national debt in history, attacks on American labor, billions given to bin Laden and terrorism, Iran Contra, and a brain dead President that looked good on TV.
After Carter we elected a hair style.

In the years since FDR, I would have Carter as the #1 best President to serve the country.

#1 Carter

#2 Eisenhower

#3 Blow Job Clinton

#4 Sex Machine Kennedy

#5 Liar Ford

#6 Alzheimers Reagan

#7 Pedophile Bush

#8 Assassin Johnson

#9 Crook Nixon

#10 Bisexual Bush

Even though Pedophile Bush is ranked as a better President than Assassin Johnson, Pedophile Bush should have been thrown in jail at least as long as Johnson. I think pedophilia is a worse crime than assassinating the President like Johnson did, but the assassination had a longer lasting effect on the nation than HW Bushs pedophilia.

Hey you liberals, take off the blinders. Remember, as an incumbant, he was voted out of office after only one term in a landslide defeat.

So much for his great presidency. Americans couldn't wait to be rid of him.

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bingo boffo.......

but remember......it must have been a rigged election and the left didnt even know it.......I mean they cant lose unless its rigged...

lisa......nice job of turning soft and innocent teasing into mean and nasty......shit gal.....you have got this liberal bullshit down now!!!!!!

It was all publicity over the failed rescue attempt---bad timing for Carter. But the country got Reagan and the highest national debt in history, attacks on American labor, billions given to bin Laden and terrorism, Iran Contra, and a brain dead President that looked good on TV.
After Carter we elected a hair style.

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I was going to just say bullshit bob but instead lets look at this one by one./

damn...the liberal rewriting of history may be worse than I thought...

failed attempt......and why was that......like any good liberal democrat, the military was being dismantled. bad timing my ass......
remember the quote from the allytolah afterwards when he remarked....much like the japs after pearl harbor.....that he expected thunder and lightning from the west with the disgracfull hostage taking.....and all he got from carter was beggin and pleading to let them go...and thus the phrase death to america has been uttered with impugnity.....

highest debt........probably not now and this is the other problem with bush

labor attacks.....are you referring to telling the airline workers who BROKE THE LAW WHEN THEY WENT ON STRIKE......and reagan showed them that they could be replaced.......law and order bro....law and order....

and just this morning on meet the press, devers and meese were there and the guy who did the reagan diaries....and devers told the story about iran contra.....reagan was unaware of what north was doing.......

brain dead.......you simple dont have a clue to what you are talking about.

he did have good hair though........do you think he ever would have spent FOUR HUNDRED BUCKS to get it cut........


Hey you liberals, take off the blinders. Remember, as an incumbant, he was voted out of office after only one term in a landslide defeat.

So much for his great presidency. Americans couldn't wait to be rid of him.

Posted by Republican4ever


Couldn't this be said of Bush 1 also?

oh yeah and one more thing bobby boy.......

if we are talking about expresidents......

well must I go on..........

there was one that left us with little more than stains on a blue dress and a whole 'nother' way of looking at my cigars.............

have a good sunday evening....
especailly all of you working stiffs who have to get back to the monday morning grind

lady...you may be right about 41 but there was also a campaign that needed more teeth.......but lets just say you are correct...

but here is one FACT.........you have never heard 41 utter anything even remotely similar to this and you wont hear it from 43 either....

again........its called class........and the double C boys 'aint' got it........

oh yeah and one more thing bobby boy.......

if we are talking about expresidents......

well must I go on..........

there was one that left us with little more than stains on a blue dress and a whole 'nother' way of looking at my cigars.............

have a good sunday evening....
especailly all of you working stiffs who have to get back to the monday morning grind

Posted by bushlovertwo

Is this the best you all can do to bash Clinton. Last I heard there are right wing repubs begging Gingrich (the criminal and, double-talker, and cheater) to enter the Presidential race. That just goes to show the nerve of Republicans. After all the damage has done and the lack of morality this man has shown you all still trot him out as if he's someone we should look up or list to.

By the way, Jimmy C. is exactly right. And the hell with class right now this is about survival of the American way. In case you missed it, which I'm sure you did since you appear to be mesmerized with Bush, this country is in serious trouble solely because of the person sitting in the White House today!

"lisa......nice job of turning soft and innocent teasing into mean and nasty."

Hmmmm...let me get this straight:

You insult someones looks = soft and innocent

I use your outlook on looks = mean and nasty

I get it. It's the do as I say not as I do rule.

Got it.

Lisa

It's also known as the dish it out but can't take it rule.

**** I'd love to see Carter and Bush in a fist fight. Everyone says Carter is such a wimp, but my money would be on Carter. Bush is all talk and swagger. At least Carter knows how to swing a hammer.

Posted by Apocalypto ****

....Bush has been practicing his wrestling with Jeff Gannon....its either Bush in a clinch or a clinch in the bush......

I think Carter would kick Bushies ass. Bush is a coward, and a bump on his nose would make him piss his pants.

Carter beats Dubya badly in the Presidential rankings based on this sole fact:

- Carter was an outspoken critic of the war on Iraq, and as time has gone by he looks like a wise prophet
- Dubya pushed a reckless and unnecessary war down the throat of the US population, and as time has gone by he looks more like the blundering empty-suit he really is...

Jimmy Who?

BLT

damn...the liberal rewriting of history may be worse than I thought...

LOL---Look who's talking---you rewrite history with your every post--let's take a look at this one foe example.




"failed attempt......and why was that......like any good liberal democrat, the military was being dismantled. bad timing my ass."

Well you see the Viet Nam war was just winde=ing down and NIXON ended the draft in 1973--dismantling the military like you blamed Carter for. There was nothing about weakening the military by Carter that caused the failed attempt. Two helicopters crashed into each other---simple pilot error, and bad timing for Jimmy and America---it gave us Reagan and 25 years of fuck-ups. Try rewriting history with someone who wasn't around at the time and paying attention.


"labor attacks.....are you referring to telling the airline workers who BROKE THE LAW WHEN THEY WENT ON STRIKE......and reagan showed them that they could be replaced.......law and order bro....law and order...."

LOL---Keep that in mind when talking about Iran Contra.


"and just this morning on meet the press, devers and meese were there and the guy who did the reagan diaries....and devers told the story about iran contra.....reagan was unaware of what north was doing......."

Sure. The buck stops at where it gets passed last--the legacy of reagan bush.


"brain dead.......you simple dont have a clue to what you are talking about."

Sure I do, Alzheimers takes years to become debilitating to the point that people can't remember anything or carry on conversations. In the meantime it is characterized by memory loss, and the inability to stay awake during Cabinet meetings. Reagans diseased mind sold WMDs to Saddam and bin Laden, and terrorists in South America.

"he did have good hair though........do you think he ever would have spent FOUR HUNDRED BUCKS to get it cut........"

You small minded republicans would be funny if not for the fact that you can vote. You put more emphasis on spending four hundred bucks for a haircut than billions for a worthless war.

Too bad there are millions more with minds just as tiny.

"oh yeah and one more thing bobby boy.......

if we are talking about expresidents......

well must I go on..........

there was one that left us with little more than stains on a blue dress and a whole 'nother' way of looking at my cigars............."


As opposed to HW Bush the pedophile who left his stains on children---or his bisexual son who left his stains on Jeff Gannons chin and thousands of Americans dead in a useless war.

Give me the stained dress any day---at least he was having sex with a woman.

Jimmy Who?

Posted by MACV1972

If he were so irrelevant to the WH then why fire back and why all of this noise regarding his comments. Sounds to me like he hit a sore spot.

or back to the original topic...

IS/WILL Bush be the worst in history? Certainly very close, and cetainly farther down the list than Carter!

It's also known as the dish it out but can't take it rule.

Posted by TedBaxter at 2007-05-20 10:18 PM | Reply |


ted.this is completely wrong and anyone who posts here more than a month or so knows it. I have even congratulated people on putting me down and insulting me at times...but that was when it was creative and inventive and maybe even a little funny....and most of the time that just doesnt apply to a liberal on the attack.....

and YOU LISA>.......even the comment about you not teasing and being the complete liberal was teasing in itslef....when did you become so jaded you couldnt even see that?

BOB.........there isnt much I can say to you I didnt in the other post.....we just will not let you and your side get away with changing history as we know it.

Bushlover:

I'm not jaded my friend....it's just been a very long, hard weekend.

However, if you weren't so dense, you would have realized that I gave you a much bigger compliment in my comment.

I said I don't judge someone on their looks, but rather their character. Adding that if I judged on looks, I wouldn't talk to you. Therefore, since I do talk to you, I must find you to have a solid character...although your political views are screwed up.

So....what are you bitching about???

BTW...you don't look THAT bad : p

and in addition since this is also conncected to this story........It is a shame that I dont know how to put articles up here because I read one last night that is appropriate here....

from the washington post.....and written by william drozdiak............

it is a long article debunking all of the bullshit about the world hating america and in mainly europe..........it is a great account of reality instead of the fantasy put out by the liberal media.

french dont hate us....look at the recent election

germans dont hate us......merkel's support has risen

gordon brown may be more of an 'americanphole' than blair as brown travels all over america and even has a place on cape cod

europeans are more anxious to come to america than EVER BEFORE to work and go to school...estimated 80,000 french young people have moved to the silicon vally

american culture continues to enthrall europeans.some of the most popular books in france are about america and americans

china is more imortant to europe was another myth dispelled with figures showing that FIVE TIMES more of american money was invested in germany last year than in china and four times the amount in belgium than in india.

europe only loves dems.......while the passage of bush will bring cheers in capitals around the world, they still credit reagan with being a partner in bringing about the fall of communism with his speach about bring down this wall being the cornerstone......bush 41 is not lauded for his management of the peaceful reunification of germany and the dismantling of the soviet union.

his bottom line is that there are three new leaders in europe and they are already more american friendly than the former....
france, england, germany........

but I am sure that none of this will matter or even be seen as truth since it doesnt make america look bad in the world........because thats all that matters to a liberal in thier quest for a return to the white house.

oh lisa..........nice suck up......ha ha.....

if you have a bad day or weekend just remember a couple of things,.......
where I student taught there was a sign over the door....inside the room of course.......that was in latin and I asked someone what it meant......and the teacher said...thats our motto that keeps us going back into that room day after day...
it translates......'dont let the little bastards get you down'......I have tried to keep that thought through trevails and discomforts of life........
that and this one have given me many times of comfort..

"you cant keep a hard man down"..........yuk yuk........let me know if I have to explain that one to one of your liberal buds.

There is no reason on Gods green earth, that I would find neccessary to "suck up" to you.

Nice little story though.

oh my ......I think you doth protest too much..

but nonetheless....

have a good one......for its off to the links...........

BL2, I read the article you mentioned. It was good.

here's the link:

www.washingtonpost.com

I agree with most of the points. I'll only add that for all the anti-American rhetoric that is thrown about in Europe, the leaders know that they have gotten a free ride for decades by not having to build up their own defense infrastructure because they know that the US Military will come to their aid if asked.

I think that if the US is forced to abandon our allies in Iraq and betray them, it would let Europe know that the US could no longer be trusted to defend them -- and that they will need to develop milatires of sufficeint size to defnd themsleves -- furthering hurting many already sluggish socialist economies and breeding more anti-American sentiment in the process.

BLT

BOB.........there isnt much I can say to you I didnt in the other post.....we just will not let you and your side get away with changing history as we know it.

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-05-21 09:33 AM

You mean we won't let YOU lie about history and try to rewrite it. No matter how many lies you tell yourself, there are still those who know the facts of history. Your brain dead Reagan, Pedophile Bush, and Bisexual Bush heroes were always braind dead reaggan, pedophile bush, and his bnisexual son, as opposed to a real hero and great President in Carter.

Your lies are all you have.

Carter: Nobel Peace Prize and Habitat For Humanity
Bush:...Preemptive War Prize and Rubble For Humanity

Buff, you wouldn't happen to think Clinton was the best thing since sliced bread either, would you?

Ooops, your partisan slip is showing.

Carter revised his remarks, said they were "careless".

www.msnbc.msn.com

Notice how he also lied, right? He said he wasn't talking about Bush's administration, but in his quote he definitely said "THIS administration".

Here it is" I think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history."

Anamerican---compared to a pedophile and a warmonering bisexual, Clinton looks pretty good. I just tell the truth about the Bushs. Books have been written and newspaper accounts have been published about HWs pedophilia, and Jeff Gannon speaks for himself when his mouth isn't full. W's bisexuality has been well documented as well---try Google and educate yourself.

That you would support a pedophile and war mongering bisexual coward shows your partisanship.

Sometimes the truth hurts.. But to be fair I'd say Woodrow Wilson has done more to harm America in the long run. He paved the way for elite corruption. Bush just widened the road and his legacy of damage has yet to fully unravel

The ecomnomy that Carter inherited was already falling apart as a result of failed policy in the Vietnam War and oil embargos among nu merous other things.

Now before you bitch about paying $3.50 for gas this week remember its Carter who tried to right the ship nearly 30 years ago with some innovative energy initiatives that were sh!tcanned by the Reagan/Bush era.

www.commondreams.org

""I think that if the US is forced to abandon our allies in Iraq and betray them""

What allies??? There isn't hardly anyone left. Most of them deserted us or never joined in the first place.

Rasmussen Reports, where Bush has always garnered his highest approval ratings, is reporting the lowest approval rating for him ever there.

34%

Rasmussen Reports, where Bush has always garnered his highest approval ratings, is reporting the lowest approval rating for him ever there.

34%

Posted by AllAmerican


So the 'Worst in History' tag is a quantified reality, not a judgment call. What's all the fuss about then?

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday his remarks were "careless or misinterpreted" when he said the Bush administration has been the "worst in history" for its impact around the world.


Looks like the former President is trying to remove his Liberal foot from his mouth.

A little history on what else Jimmy said, of course things of importance like this are largely ignored.

In 1973, during the Nixon Administration, OPEC (The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries) agreed to reduce supplies of oil available to the world market. This sparked an oil crisis and forced oil prices to rise sharply, spurring price inflation throughout the economy, and slowing growth.

Significant government borrowing for items such as the Vietnam War and the nuclear weapons stockpile helped keep interest rates high relative to inflation. Jawboning and price freezes had proved ineffective. This lead President Jimmy Carter to address the nation early in his term ...

Primary Sources: The President's Proposed Energy Policy

Jimmy Carter delivered this televised speech on April 18, 1977.
Tonight I want to have an unpleasant talk with you about a problem unprecedented in our history. With the exception of preventing war, this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes. The energy crisis has not yet overwhelmed us, but it will if we do not act quickly.

It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century.
We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.

We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us.

The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.

Our decision about energy will test the character of the American people and the ability of the President and the Congress to govern. This difficult effort will be the "moral equivalent of war" -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy.

... Because we are now running out of gas and oil, we must prepare quickly for a third change, to strict conservation and to the use of coal and permanent renewable energy sources, like solar power.

Our consumption of oil would keep going up every year. Our cars would continue to be too large and inefficient.

We will feel mounting pressure to plunder the environment. Inflation will soar, production will go down, people will lose their jobs. Intense competition will build up among nations and among the different regions within our own country.
If we fail to act soon, we will face an economic, social and political crisis that will threaten our free institutions.
But we still have another choice. We can begin to prepare right now. We can decide to act while there is time.

We have always wanted to give our children and grandchildren a world richer in possibilities than we've had. They are the ones we must provide for now. They are the ones who will suffer most if we don't act.


Jimmy Carter, "The President's Proposed Energy Policy." 18 April 1977

REPUGNANT

In hindsight, Carter's speech looks more like fulfilled prophecy.

Oil prices and the debt left by the Vietnam War were responsible for the record inflation at the end of his term. Of course, it was already at record levels when he took office, a fact which the Carter bashers here would just like to overlook completely. Reagan then took the national debt to record levels, and 'trickle down economics' pissed on the middle class while leaving an awaiting mess for Bush 41 to deal with midway through his presidency.

Great post, repug. Thank you for the reminder of the days when presidents had a little more going on in their thought process than when to start hacking fake cedar bushes on the fake ranch.

Agree with Jimmy's policies or not, there is just no comparison between him and this dud pretender taking up space in the White House today.

Nobody but nobody could ever attack Carter's integrity and honesty, or his intelligence and faith, for that matter. His opinion of W says a lot. A lot more than any of the myopic aplogists who come here to crack wise. His capitulation is a shame, totally unnecessary.

"Ooops, your partisan slip is showing.

Posted by anamerican at 2007-05-21 12:38 PM"

Coming from you? Isn't it ironic? Doncha think?

So, to sum up the Republitard stance on Carter vs. Bush:

Carter (MENSA member, Navy vet, decent human being) = bad

Dubya (MENSA reject, TANG reject, spoiled rich brat) = good

True, except Yugos were designed and built to last exactly 40,000 miles, and Pintos for 70.

Posted by TedBaxter at 2007-05-19 09:20 PM

Except if the Pinto is hit in the rear--it could be less than 70.

As for Carter--he was a crummy President. Bad on economics and horrible on foreign affairs. He is much better afterwards in his Habitat organization.

And now we see he has apoligized and back peddled on his comments.

Murphy

"And now we see he has apoligized and back peddled on his comments."

Carter seems to be a much bigger man than Bush is in this respect. You'll never hear Bush apologize for sending thousands of Americans to their death using cherry picked intel to mislead Americans to support this catastrophic blunder Bush created.

Carter was not much of a president, but I'd rather have him than Bush!

"Horrible on foreign affairs..."

Carter brokered the Camp David accords, leading to a stable peace between Egypt and Israel. Bush only dreams of anything remotely like it.

It's a lot more perncious than selective memory. Either you weren't alive at the time, never read a book about it, or could care less in order to make a dishonest point.

Ah, let me now apologize for being a bit harsh. Because it's backpeddling, no need to acknowledge it.

Bush's war will eventually lead to high inflation as well.

The price of gas over $3, and food prices and everything else starting to rocket upwards. Won't be long.

Difference is Bush caused these gas prices by destabilizing the ME, and Carter's was purely the Iranians and the oil embargo.

Also, with the massive borrowing we're doing coupled with inflation, interest rates won't hold forever. They simply can't.

Carter brokered the Camp David accords and Bush broke them.

Bush is a total disaster, If he were a British PM, he would've been exiled to Majorca by now.

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