I bet that puts a big old gut wrenching wail in Your Craws. WTG Dixie Chicks for not being afraid to speak Your minds.

Larry

Dynamite ! !

I think so too YoMeLib. It just goes to show that the Wrongs get righted sometimes. They were wronged for being condemned Like they were now they are having the Last Laugh on them. Tickles Me to Death it really does.

Larry

the red states are maybe getting a paler shade ?

Larry:
First post, right?
You done good. I LOVE the Dixie Chicks. They killed Earl and said FUTK.
That stupid idiot, Southern Man, is going to have a hissy fit field day with this thread.
Southern Man:

Larry:
Catch you up in the morning. AOL is still down.

Nah Berkeley I have had a few User posted thread Doohickies before on the Drudge Retort, I have been here a while now. Started I want to say Late August Early September 2004 give or take a few Months either Direction. Used to post under LarryM until RCADE forced the signing up for an Account here(I think He got tired of the trolls myself) then added the last 3 Letters in My Last name. As per the Topic I LOVEEEE the Dixie Chicks and the fact that some of them Smoke is a definate PLUS in My book. They do Rock too which helps.

Larry

Ok Berkeley Have a good night.

Larry

YoMeLib I do believe that the Red Staters are coming to grips with REALITY and they don't know whether to shit or go blind. I live in the Heart of the Red Staters Kansas and even We are going well whatever red and blue mixed produces.

Larry

LOVE Don Henley - - way to support!

Chicks Rock!

Larry:
I stand corrected. I know how long you have been here. I just knew that before tonite it said none. My bad.
Two in this house are blue. Our neighbors are worried that people like us live near them. Just joking, maybe, maybe not.
The truly RED will never forgive them. Sad but true. They are going to miss some great music.
YOGF

Looks like Country Music fans cut and run. If every neo-con that shunned Dixie Chicks for speaking their minds would have joined the millitary, KBR, or Blackwater, this war would be over.

I hate to say it but Iraq has been good experience. Chimpy has shown that a several hundred billion $, a few hundred thousand troops lives screwed up and 3000+ dead US troops is not going to make a difference to an insurgency. Like I always say, crunch all you want, they'll make more. Take them all out or we loose and US doesn't have the balls for that

Meanwhile, most of the US neo-cons act like we are not even at war. Their just worried about legislating their view of God, and increasing personal wealth. Where is the sacrafice by these neo-cons? Why don't they all send themselves and kids to fight the good fight? They say screw it, let the poor fight.... sissies

You know why they're called "rednecks"?

With their heads up their asses that way-when they fart-the gas passes over their necks-being allergic to it-they get hives........

By the way - - in a rather small concert in England this is what Natalie actually said:

"We're ashamed that George Bush is from Texas."

That's it - - that is all she said.

Oscar:
Check out Southernman's comments today on the nooner.

OK

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Oscar:
BIG oops! It was the Sat. nooner.
Sorry about that.

The South are rednecks still fighting the civil war and would put a bullet in Lincoln's head if he were still alive. We should give those states to Mexico and let them pull themselves up from their bootstraps instead of sucking taxes from the rest of the country.

The Dixie Chicks have paid the price against speaking their minds and giving their opinion about the truth regarding the war. It's refreshing in comparison to listening to the President and his administration continuing to claim we are winning the war and in the final throws.

With the administration still tripping in on its underwear, it's nice to see, the hard-working and talented can overcome rednecks from the South.

Thanks Berkeley - - - Yeah I found the Bonehead.

I've dealt with my share of those - - when someone is a Blow Hard Loud Mouth - ya know what tht means - "Little Manhead - - smaller mind".

"When ya Got It - ya don't have to prove anything"

Oscar:
There is something wrong with this guy. If you get a chance, check out his first post on this site. He said that the site sounded kinda kinky and went on to mention 2 comments by ME. He was on the Haggard thread. He picked my comments as being kinky and he did not comment on any of the others?
Something ain't right IMOH.
Sorry about slow response. I need to learn to type.

5 Grammies, great! Maybe this is the C&W crowd's way of telling the Dixiechicks "We're sorry."

Berkeley - - I just skip right past those types.

He was way out of line.

Oscar:
Kind of like banging your head against a brick?
Nothing changes and all you get is a headache?

Do what Y'all are confusaling Me.

Larry

Go Chicks !!

i applaud them for speaking out against this war when most Americans were afraid of 'men in black' coming to the door if they said something similar (which actually happened several times to varying individuals).

The Billy Bob Bereftofteeth nation must be fuming over the Dixie Chicks' amazing evening.

This might be a good time for this old quote:

We can support the troops without supporting the President.
-- Disgraced Republican Trent Lott, failing to support the U.S. president, during the Kosovo crisis.

The selective memory conservatives choose not to remember that one.

Nothing new there, Rast--that's how they always are

CHICKS RULE!!!

Take that Bush!

I just heard this news on Imus as I was signing in...

I am very pleased about the Dixie Chicks wins...

I can never remember that German word that means enjoying the misfortunes of others, but I can say that I have it this morning....All the ridiculous hatred that come from the right when one of the "Chicks" spoke her mind...boycotts, record burnings, and the damn talking heads...

What goes around comes around....

schadenfreude

ehhhh...
modest talent at best...especially post-Fly discs

"modest talent at best...especially post-Fly discs"

You must prefer cowboy troy and a little zing in your ying yang...

Modest talent at best, what a joke, blows any piece of trash in country out of the water.

Reeba sucks, Carrie Underwood sucks, Toby Keith sucks, Tom Green sucks, Rascal Flatts is gay as hell, please feel free to offer up someone who is an exceptional talent?

"please feel free to offer up someone who is an exceptional talent?"

George Strait

BTW:

Rascal Flatts, whether gay or not, does have talent.

Living in Nashville, I've only had reqpect for 2 country acts in my life: The Dixie Chicks and Johnny Cash.


Everything else on the country scene at best bores me, and at worst makes me ill.

That should be respect. What the hell is "reqpect"?

"please feel free to offer up someone who is an exceptional talent?"

Merle Haggard. A Dixie Chick for the right. Until "America First", maybe.

oh please......

winning ALL the grammies doesnt mean these women are back at all......
it only means that the music elite wanted to honor them for having the nerve to GO ABROAD and talk shit....
oh wait....that doesnt take any gumption at all....all that is is trying to get some euro trash to like you.....

so keep up with the celebration....if you think the grammy people arent fucked up then you havent watch the award show in the past several years...........
little more than pop trash with little appeal for any discerning listener......

BL2,

While I do agree with your sentiment regarding the Grammies, I'm curious:

What does a "discerning listener", such as yourself, listen to?

and before you all jump all over the last post...or at LEAST THINK YOU ARE......

I and many others would have given them a break if they had the integrity to talk thier little shit about bush here instead of overseas......
but just like clinton and carter and the others.....they just feel they need to talk bad about the USA while they are abroad.........it makes them feel euro....

Hmmm Dixie Chicks, much ado about nothing.Can't say as I listen to thierbrand of music. Or listen to any entertainers on politics - on either side of aisle.

There is some smokin hotness factor though. If they'd sing naked I'd watch them.

Now it's the "music elite" to join all those other "elites" who don't agree with the rightnuts. They get such words from their propagandiists and parrot them all day long. Don't they ever think for themselves?

rev......if you were to 'push my buttons'........

on the radio.....get your mind out of the gutter...........hee hee

you would find from left to right on fm.....

npr which is also the regional classical music
two harder rock
kilt fm......the standard of country stations...

espn sports station.....

soft rock.


on am....

talk talk talk talk talk talk...


and my library consists of everything from al hirt to al jeareu to mozart to pendereki to spike jones to movie soundtracks by the dozens...

notice I didnt say anything about rap because I assumed you meant music and not poetry accompanied by a middle school drum beat..........

ohyeah.......no hawaiian or bagpipe music.....

Dittos Bushlovertwo,

However, I am happy for the chicks and hope that they continue to received their just rewards. This doesn't mean that they will sell more recordings, pack concerts or that their initial audience will return. Perhaps the Grammy folks lost a little credibility.

""I and many others would have given them a break if they had the integrity to talk thier little shit about bush here instead of overseas......""

Baloney you would have. You would have been calling them traitors no matter where they said what they did. Yeah, country music singers just want to feel European. Hahahahahaha!
How do you forgive someone for speaking the truth when it isn't popular????
Answer: You don't. You forgive yourself for being a sheep. Baaaaaah!

Well, BL2, I tend to avoid country (difficult given my locale).

I respect much of what you listen to, though some bagpipe/violin combos are really cool in a truly bizarre sort of way.

sure blue......I was just reprinting me yesterday's instructions from rush about what I can listen to......
waiting on todays from hannity.....

sure.......

Nothing like great Celtic music on St. Patrick's Day.

danni.........to put is succinctly and to the point....

you suck...

no no no......but you are wrong.......but what do I know....how can I argue with YOU ....a liberal even if its what I THINK ABOUT SOMETHING>.......I mean how DARE I even question you???????????????


rev.......yeah maybe on the bagpipe/violin..

there is one special time for bagpipe...I dont think the staunchest atheist even here on the retort doesnt get a little spiritual when there are bagpipes playing amazing grace............of course the setting that is usually found has much to do witht that.....
as all music can change everything about anything when done right........




I just stopped watching the awards part of this when it got too hard or heavy or outlandish or whatever you want to call it......
I dont but those albums..( the real test of your opinion).....so why would I waste what time I have left on tv.........

LISA LISA LISA LISA LISA LISA

ALERT ALERT>.........have to work another HOUR TODAY...........damn....where is my UNION????????????

stevie........on st paddy's and a few sheets into the wind from the favorite lager......sure.....
as a matter of fact there is a celtic show every sat night on npr that I listen to quite often......

ALERT ALERT>.........have to work another HOUR TODAY...........damn....where is my UNION????????????

Posted by bushlovertwo


Takes you that long to pull up your pants. Is that the work you speak of?

Oh my God.

Not NPR.

there is one special time for bagpipe...I dont think the staunchest atheist even here on the retort doesnt get a little spiritual when there are bagpipes playing amazing grace

Actually, BL2, I find most bagpipe renditions of that tune to be more annoying than most renditions of that tune. (I never liked Amazing Grace, even when I was religious.)

I'm with you on classical music, rap, Hawaii and bagpipes, BL2. I'd add smooth jazz and new age to dislikes and classic jazz to likes. It wasn't your music I was getting at it was this weird rightist notion that you are a victim of all these elites in the media, in academia, in Hollywood, in Europe etc. I'm sure you could lengthen the list. "Music elite" was just new to me in the list of those whose sole aim in life is to destroy America.

"winning ALL the grammies doesnt mean these women are back at all......
it only means that the music elite wanted to honor them for having the nerve to GO ABROAD and talk shit."

The only "shit talk" comes from your posts.

If these women were pro-Bush, you'd have your head up their asses singing their praises.

But, please....don't sing. Your trumpet playing is bad enough.

Love bagpipe music. Lots of good stuff on NPR, esp the the Thistle and the Shamrock.

"LISA LISA LISA LISA LISA LISA


ALERT ALERT>.........have to work another HOUR TODAY."

Going to that med school that offers $100/hour for a male pelvic exam, are you??

Only an hour??

Seems to me, for that kind a money you'd spend a week there!

Or....would it BE for the money??!!

"I never liked Amazing Grace."

Lisa

Actually, they need a back-up at the school crosswalk.

"I never liked Amazing Grace."

A friend of mine has a karaoke business and he always made me sing that song at the end of the night, acapella. The mother of another friend made me promise to sing that song at her funeral.

I grew to like that song.

Ted:

lol

I don't think they'd allow Bushlover unattended with children. : )

Hooraah for the Dixie Chicks. Eventually the truth comes out. It is sad that so many must be killed, maimed and displaced before people realize what's going on. Maybe we should blame the media, while BushCo used and then ignored bin Laden to do it.

The Texas trio won record and song of the year

Okay in all seriousness, I never heard the song they won for and naturally then the record...

Was it good?

I have XM radio, and listen to over a dozne different stations and I really haven't heard them... So I can't really comment and say that they didn't deserve it, but I think everyone here can see that there is probably a little (just a smidge) politics in this right?

Rob,

The song itself is kind of a country/rock semi-power anthem. Not too bad. More of a cross-over than straight country. That's probably wy I like it more than most country tunes.

Lisa,

You're probably right.

But think how cute he'd be in his yellow slicker with his custom made STOPdems sign.

The song itself is kind of a country/rock semi-power anthem. Not too bad. More of a cross-over than straight country. That's probably wy I like it more than most country tunes.

Posted by RevDarko


that's cool... I honestly can't think of a song that jumps out to me as "Song of the Year" so I don't have a problem with this really... I just know that if the DC's had a song that was moderately good then of course they would reward it... and maybe not even for political purposes, just the press of it, knowing that debates like this would pop-up and the press would eat it up...

who gives a damn if dixie chicks win gramys, thats the same as brokeback mountain winning oscars, if you read the entire article you will see the dixie chicks sales are way down from previous albums

I think this Grammy was an "Up Your Ass President Bush" Grammy

Good for them, fuck the reich...again.

Panchovilla,

Reich?

TrueBlue,

Do you mean to say that the Grammies have a political agenda? How did music awards become a springboard for political rhetoric? Didn't the Dixie Chicks earn their awards? Do you believe that they were hightlighted because of their political views? That sounds like a bit of an insult to both the Chicks and the Grammy association.

yeah remember when Jethro Tull won the Grammy for best hard rock album over Metallica.

Seems like the Grammy orginization is still up to its old routines.

Giving prizes for insignificance.

"they will pass out awards for being the very best at being the very worst"

Paul

You guys catch Christina Agualara's tribute to James Brown?

That woman has a set of lungs on her. Unbelievable to say the least.

She can really belt em' out.

Amazing!!!!!!

As for the Dixie Chicks, I think they are fairly talentless and way to vocal for my liking. Country, even really good country, is still just thath! Country!

It is limited by itself, unlike Rock and Roll,

Do you mean to say that the Grammies have a political agenda?

duh.

How did music awards become a springboard for political rhetoric?

very good question.

Didn't the Dixie Chicks earn their awards?

ummmm, no.

Do you believe that they were hightlighted because of their political views?

again, duh.

That sounds like a bit of an insult to both the Chicks and the Grammy association.


no kidding.

Hansome Rob,

I am glad you caught the humor in my post.

doh!

i'll go wash the egg off my face.

The album, "Taking The Long Way Home" may have gone platinum at least once by now, and the awards will only add to the sales. Some one is buying the records. I don't believe having been dropped by country radio did the Chicks any harm. If anything, dropping the Chicks may have harmed country radio. I listen to them on MP3 disks in my car and in my wife's truck. Normally, I can't stand what passes for country these days. However, I like Willie Nelson, Joe Ely, Johnny Cash, Neil Young, Bonnie Raitt, and Dixie Chicks in my personal listening space.

that lead singer of the dixie chicks needs to drop about 50 pounds, fat bitch

All the awards are a combination of political and industry backslapping and yes they are voted by those who are members of the RIAA ... I was in the association and had a vote every year for decades. I never even watch that crap. Often the real talent is behind the scenes and is read off a list (or used to be) at some point in the show when no one is listening and it includes the recording engineers, the art directors, the musicians, the arrangers, the studios etc. I suspect that list is now probably just printed in Billboard and on line somewhere and that would be it.

The general public only sees the awards the industry wants you to see so you buy more of those particular titles. Meanwhile change a recording engineer. or a studio, or musicians and the entire project would sound totally different in most instances.

But let there be no doubt that politics and the politics of all the members plays an enormous role in the outcome and I promise you the membership of that organization goes from ORDINARY Left to GOOFY Left to NAIVE Left to DANGEROUS LEFT.

"Wouldn't you think that album of the year, would go to the album with the most sales???"

Before you answer, keep in mind the album Breathless by Kenny G sold more copies than Sgt Pepper.

The Chixy Dicks, a collection of screeching Bitches... the Grammys are political too?...who would have guessed?

Why do we care what idiot superstars have to think about any given political issue? I don't care if they are from the right or left side their opinion is worthless. Granted they have the right to say whatever they want but I don't know why we make such a big deal out of it.

the grammies like the emmies and oscars
so how much taste and discernment the american people DON"T HAVE
jasman

"But let there be no doubt that politics and the politics of all the members plays an enormous role in the outcome..."

Nancy Wilson beat Diana Krall for Best Jazz Vocal Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Yolanda Adams beat Chris Tomlin for Best Gospel Performance.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Jonny Lang beat Sarah Kelly for Best Rock or Rap Gospel Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Gilberto Al Corazon beat Oscar D'Leon for Best Tropical Latin Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Chente Barrera y Taconazo beat Bob Gallarza for best Tejano Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Irma Thomas beat the Robert Cray Band for Best Contemporary Blues Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Bruce Springsteen beat Odetta for Best Traditional Folk Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Mary Youngblood beat Black Eagle for Best Native American Music Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

Jimmy Sturr And His Orchestra beat Eddie Blazonczyk's Versatones for Best Polka Album.
Has to be that politics and the politics of all the members played an enormous role in the outcome.

I'm glad the Chicks won. And not just because of their political beliefs.

The songwriting and production on their album was really, really good. Rick Rubin did a great job of producing them and also earned a well deserved nod for Producer of the Year. I've also been a fan of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who he also produces and who also did well last night. It was refreshing to see people who actually write good songs and perform them well live win.

In recent years past, it seems the major awards have gone to less talented people. Perhaps the industry is realizing that rewarding people with little talent is not good for record sales in the long run. I mean, why would a kid WANT to buy a CD for $15 when there's only one decent song on there? Too many manufactured acts.

All in all, the songwriting on most CD's the last 15 years has been atrocious. Record labels shot themselves in the foot by not concentrating on the 'Repetroire' part of 'Artist and Repetrorire' - the songs. No one cares about a hit that's like a McDonald cheeseburger - once it's been eaten and digested you forget all about it - whereas music that is actually written well has staying power.

Well deserved win, Chicks.

Bitching all the time about Bush and how much America sucks is a good way to line your pockets

"I was in the association and had a vote every year for decades"

"and I promise you the membership of that organization goes from ORDINARY Left to GOOFY Left to NAIVE Left to DANGEROUS LEFT."

So windbag which are you, Ord Left, Goofy Left, Naive Left....

I opt for full of shit right.

Why do Cons hate America?

Why do Cons hate America?

I find it funny that they've become this symbol for anti-war activism.

It isn't what they initially set out to do with their anti-Bush comments.

Initially, they were pandering to a foreign audience. They knew making an anti-Bush comment would go over well and they went for the cheap applause. They didn't even mention the war at that time.

Then after all the hysterics that followed the initial comment, they started making true anti-war comments. It is almost as if they backed themselves into a corner and had to really start speaking out against the war to save face.

If the initial instance of pandering were not picked up by the US press, they'd of kept their mouths shut about Iraq.

Mary J Blige was wonderful. Right after the Chicks performed, Mary won a award, and got up and said something to the effect of with my success I want to build bridges not burn them down.

This was a sad bastardization of the Awards Show. I feel the voting members sacrificed the integrity of the program to make a political statement. The Dixie Chicks are talented artists, and no doubt deserved to win a grammy; however, it seems this was taken to the extreme and they received awards that were clearly deserved by other talented artists. It's a sad day.

"I feel the voting members sacrificed the integrity of the program to make a political statement."

Yeah.

Jimmy Sturr And His Orchestra beat Eddie Blazonczyk's Versatones for Best Polka Album.

Had to have been a political statement.

Hans

But let there be no doubt that politics and the politics of all the members plays an enormous role in the outcome and I promise you the membership of that organization goes from ORDINARY Left to GOOFY Left to NAIVE Left to DANGEROUS LEFT.


Posted by GZlives at 2007-02-12 10:39 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Awwwwwwwww is that because the see the Reality of the situation instead of spewing Anti Muslim sentiment?? Is that why You Label them Dangerous Left?? Inquiring minds wanna know.

Larry

Texas is ashamed BLT is from Texas.

Liberal don't buy country music. I guess they will have to do rap!

After hearing all the shout outs last night, Did I hear one shout out to the troops? I don't think I did. Even if most don't support the war, they could still give a shout out to the troops.

GZLIVES

I'm sure they're not crying any tears over your absence at NARAS.

I took the time to read all of the above posts to get a general feel of how all of you feel about the Chicks being awarded for their current musical effort. Some of you think that they we're given their awards based solely on their political views, while others have managed to look beyond the irrelevant political deflections to see that they deserved the awards for the sheer musicianship they consistently display.

I personally don't like award shows, the Grammys in particular. They only serve to polarize listeners into listening and purchasing (whoop...there it is) a short list of industry-approved artists, while hordes of others as equally talented, receive no recognition for their musical accomplishments. For me, the Grammys are a yearly reminder as to the brutal nature of the music business, and always will be.

But for those that think that the Dixie Chicks lack any appreciable innate musicianship, take the time to see them play live. Speaking as a guy who has been playing and performing since 1962, the Irwin sisters are monsters. I'm not a huge fan of "country" music, mostly due to the maudlin subject matter the writers choose to mine for their songs (flag waving, dogs, trucks, cheating wives, drinking, etc), but the Dixie Chicks are great writers and performers who have taken all of that and created something new that crosses over to audiences that might not normally listen to country. In a time where a major radio market like Los Angeles has no country station, AM or FM, to have them receive that many Grammys, for me, shows that they are no longer "country" artists.

All music eventually evolves from one narrow genre to something else. Allison Krauss, Rhonda Vincent, Vince Gill, etc., have all begun to crossover into larger mainstream audiences by the sheer force of their talent and musicianship. If you don't like the Chicks because of their political activism, fine. But don't try to bag on them because you don't think they can play well, because it just demonstrates that you don't know spit about what you're blathering on about.

As usual, your mileage may vary.

Political views aside, they shouldn't have won. Their album was not nearly as good as it should have been. They are far more talented than that. It's too bad the Grammy's have become a political forum rather than an avenue to showcase the worlds best music.

It's too bad the Grammy's have become a political forum rather than an avenue to showcase the worlds best music.

Posted by bubbalub


Grammy going the way of the Oscar? Too bad.

When will honesty prevail?

Political views aside - - they absolutely should have won.

These girls are extremely talented musicians and song writers.

And Natalie has one of the most unique voices I've ever heard.

Saying they only won because of Politics is Crap!

"When will honesty prevail?"

Exactly how I felt when Jimmy Sturr And His Orchestra beat Eddie Blazonczyk's Versatones for Best Polka Album.

And especially when Mary Youngblood beat Black Eagle for Best Native American Music Album.

Clearly, a sad bastardization of the Awards Show.

Hans

Political views aside - - they absolutely should have won.

I agree. I love their sound. Great performers.

The Chicks aside, Justin (or whatever his name is) Timberlake surprised me with the quality of his piano playing and singing. I had him pegged as only a kids type of performer, but I was impressed.

Oscar...If you like Natalie Maine's voice, you might like Jonatha Brooke. She used to be part of a duo called The Story in the late '90s. She's a solo artist now, and one of the best songwriters I've ever heard, including Joni Mitchell. Again, another great artist no one will ever hear about if we continue to allow our music selections to based solely on what a few big labels think we should be listening to.

One word: Conspiracy...

I doubt that I'd walk across the street if the chicks were performing on the front lawn, but go chicks! In my book you're enshrined with all the greats of show biz who've had the (ahem!) balls to point out that the Idjit-In-Chief has no pants on.

What can anyone tell me about Mahler's Seventh? herm

"I made by bed, and I sleep like a baby,
With no regrets and I don't mind saying,
It's a sad sad story
That a mother will teach her daughter
that she ought to hate a perfect stranger.
And how in the world
Can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they'd write me a letter
Saying that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should"

Luckily fer blog-world Spud DOES have time "to go round and round and round".

Country Music fans who rejected this excellent song and the album it came from because of their blind love fer Dumbya haff embarressed themselves and missed out on sommat special.

The Chicks deserved this win based on Musical quality alone. Nice video too.

Mary J Blige thanking over 200 people in her two minute acceptance speech between sniffles was kinda funny fer Spud.

The Police re-union was cool.

They're starting their 30 year anniversary world tour in Van City.

Spud is going!

Woo Hoo!

Cool thread, Larry!

Be Well.

"What can anyone tell me about Mahler's Seventh? herm"

Spud is luff a li'l nachtmusik.

The Song of the Night is some good stuff!

Be Well.

The Dixie Chicks have paid the price against speaking their minds
Posted by Harrier at 2007-02-12 01:52 AM

Amazing. This is still America, right?

The Dixie Chicks winning these awards after having been pummeled as traitors and boycotted by SO many tighty-righties is real treat all by itself!

Congrats to the ladies who stood up to the powers that be in Reich-wing radio.

I and many others would have given them a break if they had the integrity to talk thier little shit about bush here instead of overseas......
but just like clinton and carter and the others.....they just feel they need to talk bad about the USA while they are abroad.........it makes them feel euro....

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-02-12 08:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

That is such bullshit. You wouldn't have done anything of the sort.

Cindy Sheehan lost a son and said all her comments RIGHT here in America when YOU, yes YOU, started attacking her.


Your fear of all things 'Euro' is amusing.

Thanks Dutch - - always looking for those special ones to sooth the weary soul.

Oh - - that overseas - - different country - - crap is such a fake cop out.

No war has been declared by this country.

War on Terror - - as I understand it - - is without borders.

They can say whatever they want - where ever they want.

What Natalie actually said in England should hardly have resulted in a hiccup.

Let alone Mass Hysteria by the Righty Tighties.

However, I am happy for the chicks and hope that they continue to received their just rewards. This doesn't mean that they will sell more recordings, pack concerts or that their initial audience will return. Perhaps the Grammy folks lost a little credibility.

Posted by steve at 2007-02-12 08:29 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Now all you need to do is explain away every show sold out.
Somebody really likes them regardless of their opinions about the commander-Chimpy

"What can anyone tell me about Mahler's Seventh?"

Well, his fastball was getting a little slower, but his curveball was still snapping, so I sent him back in for the eighth.

---Coach

Hey - well ya know what - - the South does a pretty good job of continuously showing us their Stereotype.

But - what the heck would I know about Stereotypes - - I'm from Hollywood.

I remember a little band that sang about love and us all getting along and protested war. Heck, The Beatles didn't do too badly. Seems the world liked their message.

For the wishful thinking who believe the Chicks have lost their audience. This from Wikepedia



"On May 31, 2006, the album took three number one spots of the Billboard magazine. It was number one on the Hot Country Albums, Top Digital Albums, and on the Billboard 200 chart, going Gold in its first week with 526,000 units sold. [1] The second week, the album stayed in the top spot while taking a 48% decline, selling 271,000 units and bringing the album sales total to 797,000 units. [2] In its third and fourth weeks, the album dropped to number two on the chart. During weeks five, six, and seven, the album remained as one of the top five albums in the country. During its eighth week, due to several high-profile new releases, the album was pushed out of the top ten to number eleven. However, on week nine, the album bounced back into the top ten."

I think all of the politicizing of their Grammy awards to be humorous.

A vast majority of the fraternity that makes up the Grammy awards are liberals. In those circles, trashing Bush isn't herioc, it's part of everyday life.

I think the notion that politics played a significant role in their Grammies is plain stupid.


They probably deseverved their awards based upon their talent and the relative talent they were competing with.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn (ROLLS EYES)

Larry

Larry,

Do you honestly believe that their anti-Bush statements contributed to their Grammies in any meaningful way?

Do you honestly believe that their anti-Bush statements contributed to their Grammies in any meaningful way?

Posted by JeffJ at 2007-02-13 12:53 AM | Reply

Yep I most certainly do. They saw them as much a Patriot as they did the Performer. Their message that they sent to the listener and that of the Grammy folks that They would stand up for their beliefs and their consciences. Had Nattlie Maines not made that Statement in England do You honestly believe that they would have received the 5 Grammies the other day?? HONESTLY JeffJ??

Larry

"I think the notion that politics played a significant role in their Grammies is plain stupid."

I don't think it's that stupid, Jeff. Hollywood is full of liberals and I doubt a conservative as outspoken as the dixie chicks are would be winning 5 awards in one night. Another possible scenario is that their album became popular after they became politically involved. Either way it's not that far-fetched to think that had they remained the same old under the radar dixie chicks, they wouldn't have won as many awards. Just a thought.

Larry,

If their anti-Bushisms had been central to their music, I would agree with you. However, doesn't appear to be the case.

Your position, if true, is a horrible indictment of the Grammy awards.

Essentially, you are saying that they got 5 awards because they bashed Bush publicly, irrespective of their talent and the caliber of their most recent work.


Yes, their peers are primarilly liberal. However, you and Joe and myself are news junkies. We follow this shit a lot closer than the Dixies' target audience. We follow this shit closer than the award committee (probably). In short, we have an unnatural tendency to view events such as this through a political prism, whereas those giving the awards probably only gave politics a fleeting thought.



Joe,

I hear what you are saying, but I have yet to see any viable assertions that their Grammies were politically-motivated in lieu of deserved.

I see what you're saying Jeff, and you're right that we follow news, etc more than the average person. At the same time I don't think that whoever hands out Grammys completely ignored the fact that this year, the Dixie Chicks just happened to spend half their time bitching about George Bush.

How about the fact that most people wouldnt even know who the dixie chicks were if they hadnt made their comments?

and its not lost on the grammy's that the DC's were more or less blackballed for the last two years, either.

Alex,

How about the fact that most people wouldnt even know who the dixie chicks were if they hadnt made their comments?

But did those comments help or hurt their sales?


Also, supposedly the award committee puts aside (to an extent) public opinion and issues awards based upon artistic accomplishments that the general public may be too ignorant to discern.

As mentioned earlier, this isn't the people's choice awards.

The Grammy institution has a reputation to uphold. If it became evident that personal politics drove the awards.....


I could see Dixies' politics playing a role as a tie-breaker. However, to argue that they leap-frogged clearly superior talent due to politics???

The Grammy institution has a reputation to uphold.

Looking back at past winners...um...I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that one.

And who argues they leap frogged? I didnt...

Alex,

Looking back at past winners...um...I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that one.

You've got the advantage.

I hate award shows and rarely watch them, therefore you have more firsthand knowledge than I have.

I am simply skeptical that they would risk tarnishing their reputation by awarding accolades that are clearly unwarranted based upon personal politics.

It would be nice if GZ would weigh in on this - he is a music-industry insider, and has a perspective that the rest of us are lacking.

What!?!?! . . . and no one has mentioned that this album was produced by Rick Rubin - - - Yeah - - that had nothing to do with their album being great.

Oh No - - Its all because of Liberal Hollywood.

The last few recordings the Dixie Chicks did - - when still "darlings" of country radio - - crossed over onto the Pop Stations.

Those saying no one would have known them if it wasn't for the controversy - - are full of Bull Pucky.

Grouch,


Oh No - - Its all because of Liberal Hollywood.


I tend to find liberal bias and occasional collusion to the point of conspiracy within the Leftist cliques. Nevertheless, in this instance I obviously believe that their awards were based on their talent and the artistic strength of their most recent works.

Those saying no one would have known them if it wasn't for the controversy - - are full of Bull Pucky.

Agreed.

Their audience is primarily red-staters.

I am simply skeptical that they would risk tarnishing their reputation by awarding accolades that are clearly unwarranted based upon personal politics.

It was a factor. Politics often is.

How many awards shows have given a thumbs up on a somehwat decent performence for an actor/musician only because their previous, better, work was snubbed before?

A lot.

common...........please....... ..

blue....amazing grace may be the purest song yet written by man and the lyrics are nice because they come from a slave trader who found religion as he listened to the singing of the men and women in the holds of his ship singing the melody....

and its important to remember that this whole subject is about pop music....music which lasts maybe 6 months if its lucky and longer if its really good.....beatles...etc.

so the chicks will be the customary flash in the pan for a while and then forgotten....
OR maybe the stunt was just a stunt to remain in the public's eye...wouldnt be the first time that happened......and radio stations here still wont play them......good for them........

I've tried to buy their album 3 times now and each time it has been sold out. But I'll keep trying. You rock girls!

The Dixie Chicks had already sold in excess of 15 million CD's before Natalie's famous remark about Bush, and were selling out arenas.

This controversy was not what made them famous.

Clear Channel, that bastion of Rush and Hannity, own the majority of country radio stations, and another right leaning company called Cumulous owns most of the rest - thus the ban on country radio. It was not a fan driven ban. It was a corporate ban by right wingers who own the vast majority of radio stations in the U.S. now.

Clear Channel is owned by the Christian Right.

I know this because I've been following their takeovers for about 10 years.

I was watching an interview of 2 men - - who were - if not the founders - big wigs in it from the beginning.

The host flat out asked them if Clearchannel was owned by and Christian based - - and they flat out answered YES!

The Dixie Chicks really hurt Bush -- After all his life has been undully influenced by his women and his craving for their approval. His Momma helped coach him out of a learning disability; His wife Laura helped coach him out of alcoholism; Karen Hughes helped coach him into the Texas Governors mansion; and Harriet Miers helped him become Texas's killingest death row governor ever. So when some attractive Texas chicks say that Dubya is an embarrassment, it has got to affect his psyche very deeply.

As for Vice Darth Cheney, well, he's fat, and gay, and married to Lynne, so he doesn't care one cornhole for what attractive women say.

Correction:

The Dixie Chicks really hurt Bush -- After all, his life has been unduly influenced by his women and his craving for their approval. His Momma helped coach him out of a learning disability; His wife Laura helped coach him out of alcoholism; Karen Hughes helped coach him into the Texas Governors mansion; and Harriet Miers helped him become Texas's killingest death row governor ever. So when some attractive Texas chicks say that Dubya is an embarrassment, it has got to affect his psyche very deeply.

As for Vice Darth Cheney, well, he's fat, and gay, and married to Lynne, so he doesn't care one cornhole for what attractive women say.

It is too bad country music has fallen into the hands of the right wing.

There is a strong historic trend of southern populism, epitomized today by folks like the new Virginia Senator James Webb. This populism connects the dots between poverty and injustice in the south and exploitation by big corporations. Southern populists can be an ally for building a better America.

By viewing the GOP as their natural home for "cultural reasons" Southerners miss out on voting their true economic interests. The right wing has succeeded in convincing the "have-nots" to fight the other "have-nots" for them, while they pocket the political advantage gained thereby and give nothing back.

So a group of Bush haters gives awards to other Bush haters and the Bush haters on this site think its a vindication of the message from the Bush haters who won the award!

Tools!

By viewing the GOP as their natural home for "cultural reasons" Southerners miss out on voting their true economic interests.
Maybe that explains why the southeastern US is the fastest growing region of the country? Why are so many Yankees moving to the south?

Are you really saying "there aren't enough unions in the south"? Is it the unions that allow someone to vote their true economic interest?

The host flat out asked them if Clearchannel was owned by and Christian based - - and they flat out answered YES!
And the vast majority of the other media outlets in this country are owned by non-Christians. What exactly is your point?

First the Oscars, now the Grammies?

What? Everyone have a political view now?

SLICKSTERWILLY - - - AS IF - - - I would respond to anyone with a name like yours.

Except to say - - In your dreams.

common...........please....... ..


Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-02-13 08:10 AM | Reply | Flag:


Great retort, really. Absolutely riveting.