" over posts they made before being hired by the campaign."

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So let's see....

it is okay to be involved in illegal campaign phone bank jamming.

but something you do BEFORE you are hired is a dismissable event.

Man the rightwingnutjobs are desperate if this and "plane gate" is all they got.

So, Edwards doesn't bow down to a right wing religious freak, hmmmm. Go John!

Edwards isn't hurting anyone but himself. You go, Edwards!

Hope he's paying them a living wage.

Er...I think John Edwards already knows he doesn't carry the "Deliverance Wing" of the Democratic or REpublican party. I think he is going for the rest of us.
Personally....I'm leaning John Edwards, at least he had the balls the other day to say that NO!, George Bush is not just wrong headed but that he is evil.
I need to hear that from more Democrats.
George Bush is not just some benign growth, he is a malignant tumor that requires massive doses of Chemo, radiation, or whatever else removes him from the body of America. He is a cancer!
If I had known smoking could bring on GEorge Bush I probably would have never smoked.

I knew there was a reason I said over a month ago that so far, unless something horrible comes up about him, I'll vote for John Edwards in 2008.

I'm "Clintoned" and "Bushed" out right now and for the next 30 years. Plus Hillary seems to be a poll driven political coward.

Clinton only just last week came out to give her opinion that maybe Bush shouldn't nuke Iran but instead at least have diplomatic talks with Iran (as the rest of the world has long ago suggested) and Hillary only this past month admitted she was wrong in voting to go to war in Iraq -- previously just using over and over the same old line "If I knew then what I know now" to justify her vote for war in Iraq.

Who needs just another politician who is too cowardly to tell you what he/she honestly think and feel until the poll numbers say it's politically safe to do so.

Most expensive home in county
The main home has five bedrooms and six-and-a-half baths. It's connected by a covered walkway to a bright red addition known as "The Barn," that includes its own living facilities along with a handball court, an indoor pool and an indoor basketball court with a stage at one end. Nearby, the family has cleared space for a soccer field.

With a current building value of $4.3 million, the unfinished Edwards estate is already about $1 million more expensive than any other house in the county, according to tax records. It sits on land worth about $1.1 million.

Edwards first purchased the land in 2004, during his failed run as vice president. He recently sold his mansion in Washington's tony Georgetown neighborhood for $5.2 million.

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Well, we know which America Edwards lives in.

Pirate,

What does this have to do with the blogging story?

He earned the money in his business, he has the right to spend it how he likes. Being wealthy while advocating the poor is not hypocricy. How about looking up his yearly charitable donations? How much of his money does he spend doing humanitarian work?

Any excuse to bash a rich liberal, huh?

How about holding the 'Compassionate Conservatives' to the same standards you Edwards to? Hmmm?

Back on topic...

I am glad he didn't fire them for comments they made before he hired them. If he had caved to any religious organization he would have lost my vote.

I think we've had enough of religion in politics.

*shakes head* I seriously need coffee.

Re: Liberal Bloggers Keep Jobs with Edwards

Pedophile Priests to Keep Jobs with Catholic Church

How about holding the 'Compassionate Conservatives' to the same standards you Edwards to? Hmmm?

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I do. This thread is about Edwards though.

Pirate,

It's about Edwards choosing not to fire the bloggers he hired for comments they made before he hired them.

So you post, struck me as odd because it had nothing what so ever to do with the blogging story.

I'd actually really like to know what you think about the actual topic.

I think he should have fired them.

"The tone and the sentiment of some of Amanda Marcotte's and Melissa McEwen's posts personally offended me," Edwards' statement read. "It's not how I talk to people, and it's not how I expect the people who work for me to talk to people. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that kind of intolerant language will not be permitted from anyone on my campaign, whether it's intended as satire, humor or anything else."

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I agree completely with Edwards there. I just would have gone further and gotten rid of the bloggers to set the tone for the rest of the campaign.

Well, we know which America Edwards lives in.

Posted by Pirate at 2007-02-09 12:17 AM | Reply

If Edwards wasn't a multi-millionaire he wouldn't even be able to run for President. However, Edwards EARNED his money the regular way -- he worked hard all his life for it and put himself thru law school. Edwards wasn't a Bush brat trust fund baby like GWB, who never took responsibility for working at anything that daddy Bush didn't have to bail sonny boy out of when he made a mess of things.

Also, Edwards' big difference between him and Bush is that Edwards would like to see the rest of Americans have jobs too along with health care, pensions, etc. -- unlike Bush who HATES the American middle class and thinks all of them are beneath him even though Bush never earned a buck in his whole life that wasn't secured from any loss by Daddy Bush and Daddy's friends.

There is no comparison between Bush and Edwards.

Edwards = good
Bush = evil

"Well, we know which America Edwards lives in."

Making it all the more noble he's speaking out on behalf of those without, rather than advocating policies which would only benefit he and his wealthy ilk.

Any excuse to bash a rich liberal, huh?


Just as you will use any opportunity to bash a rich conservative.

That's what both sides have in common, and why a D nor an R will get my vote any time soon.

On the topic of what Pirate was talking about. What is Edward's stance on Global Warming, and is that why he clear-cut all those trees to build his estate? Or maybe he'll convert the soccer field into a windfarm or fill it with solar panels.

I wouldn't count on it though.

It's not that anyone is against rich conservatives. It's when mega-rich Republicans like Bush, et al. who have been given everything since birth and have worked for nothing (instead of being grateful for their born-into wealth) try to privatize/destroy every single entitlement program that Americans have worked for thru the years -- social security, Medicare, etc.-- and give it back to themselves thru endless tax cuts to the top wealthiest 1%.

I personally don't care what the rich do with their money -- soccer fields, million dollar homes -- it's their money. But when greedy sob's like Bush have to go one step further and insist on taking away all they can from average Americans just trying to make a living then they are scum.

Here's Edwards presidential campaign website. Maybe he answers some questions on there. His oldest son isn't in the family photo as he died in a car crash at age 16 a few years ago and Edwards and his wife are still in mourning. She had breast cancer during the middle of the 2004 campaign but is okay now after surgery and treatment.

"Well, we know which America Edwards lives in."

Yeah, the one we all want to live in, where a lifetime of hard work pays off. We can't all get it handed to us on a silver platter by our ex-President father.

It's only February 2007, try to save a little venom for the actual campaign.

I have not yet made up my mind for which Democratic candidate I will vote. However, had John Edwards not rehired the two bloggers, I would have been actively working against him!

Nutcase conservative Catholic priests are no different than television evangelicals in the amount of scorn they need to receive. I am no theologian, but I am thinking Jesus would have been way more tolerant than this chrome-plated asshole.

Try parsing the posts of Donohue and Malkin at the same level.

I applaud Edwards. Now the country knows early in the race how very far left he really is.

On the other hand, if he was shocked by reading their rantings and is just keeping these bloggers on the payroll to demonstrate he has balls, that's another story. It demonstrates a trait that the leftists have criticized in Bush.

By the way, did you know that Edwards never personally met these bloggers before hiring them? That, in itself, seems a case of bad judgement, in my honest opinion.

I read all of the blogs in question that that crazy sob Donohue is crying about...

Is seems the Catholics have a lot to cry about these days...they should concentrate on cleaning their own houses and butt the hell of our domestic politics...

Like denying Kerry communion which was deliberate political posturing..

Edwards' campaign won't go anywhere anyhow. He couldn't win North Carolina for Kerry, he couldn't win re-election as Senator from NC, but he hopes to win the White House?

Crazy.

This doesn't matter, Edwards doesn't have a chance.

He's still a trial lawyer, and he still has no chance.

I personally don't care what the rich do with their money

Chris, I wish the left would agree with you, however, it is the perogative of the left to assert what they are owed from wealthy people. In the form of jobs or tax revenue or whatever.....most lefties here on the DR care very much what the rich to with their money.

Like denying Kerry communion which was deliberate political posturing..

I only remember some of that but I remember being pretty pissed of at that when it happened......you are right......political posturing.

By the way, did you know that Edwards never personally met these bloggers before hiring them? That, in itself, seems a case of bad judgement, in my honest opinion.

Well, any liberal candidate will need many many liberal bloggers on the payroll in order to get elected. Perhaps Edwards wouldn't want to meet them.

She had breast cancer during the middle of the 2004 campaign but is okay now after surgery and treatment.


JOHN EDWARDS FOR PRESIDENT 2008 CAMPAIGN WEBSITE





Posted by CalifChris at 2007-02-09 03:40 AM | Reply

Yes and we all remember how a lot of posters on this site said she "deserved" to get cancer.

Yes and we all remember how a lot of posters on this site said she "deserved" to get cancer.


Just like Jerry Falwell saying we deserved to be attacked on 9/11.

Edwards' campaign won't go anywhere anyhow. He couldn't win North Carolina for Kerry, he couldn't win re-election as Senator from NC, but he hopes to win the White House?

Crazy.

Posted by rightisright at 2007-02-09 08:33 AM

I think it's possible they get to keep the residual of remaining campaign funds after they lose.

David Duke could tell us for certain.

OK here is my thing, I just read the article; where the hell does Michelle Malkin get off criticizing these two bloggers? What they wrote pales in comparison to the hateful stuff Malkin writes.

Well, Tax. If Michelle Malkin takes a job with the presidential campaign of, say, John McCain, and he says that what she wrote before he hired her is of no consequence, would you be cool with that?

The bloggers are anti-Catholics. I'm not Catholic myself, neither am I an Edwards supporter. So I don't have a pony in the race. But if I were Catholic, it would be a good question as to why--in the entire blogosphere--Edwards can't find someone who doesn't have a history of attacking the faith of 30 million Americans.

Just me, though.

"...he couldn't win re-election as Senator from NC"

He couldn't?

Had he run and been defeated, this comment might have some validity.

As it is, it is nothing but conjecture.

Hans

"But if I were Catholic, it would be a good question as to why--in the entire blogosphere--Edwards can't find someone who doesn't have a history of attacking the faith of 30 million Americans."
Posted by rightisright at 2007-02-09 10:13 AM

YEAH! Are you implying that Bill Donohue represents the views of 30 million Catholic Americans?

YEAH! Your right! You sure as hell aint catholic!

Best you stick to something you might know a little about! Like snakes and strychnine and of course tongue speak!

RiR that isn't my point, I don't condone what these bloggers did and I don't think it is wise of Edwards to hang on to them - it is obvious the bloggers still harbor animosity. However, I don't think Malkin has any room to talk about what constitutes hate speech...the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

well we get just the answers that was expected when talking about edwards wealth....

and no one would deny him the right to buy whatever he wants...but then we shouldnt have to listen to him lecture us about things.
like al flying around in his private jet telling US that we shouldnt be driving our suv's.......

and here would be another example of left wingers saying they are sorry for fuck ups.....and the right leaving or resigning or at least having the media DEMANDING they leave...

from my own personal standpoint....I really dont give a damn if they keep their job or not......we all screw up and we all should get a 2nd chance now and then........

RIR,

What I find amazing is that in the entire United States John McCain cannot find staffers that are not involved in previous felonious activities.

If you are tired of bipartison bickering, check out Unity '08--an online organization which is hoping to draft the first bipartisan ticket via an online primary.

99% of American voters have no say in who is on the ballot for President in November. (A tiny percentage of voters in Iowa & New Hampshire do.)

In the 2004 presidential election, only 34 states or territories had primaries.

cool, thanks gal.

Edwards got his money the old fashion way - he sued for it! Of course everyone in his home state is now paying for his rich life style with higher medical cost and higher insurance premiums.

Burt - yeah, the victims he represented should have just sucked it up and let the wrongdoers off the hook. Tool.

Wow... I'm not sure who is a bigger idiot Biden or Edwards...

I'm a Catholic, I don't really care what they said or wrote or even how they feel... Their words don't mean anything to me...

But everyone knows how politics is... Edwards just lost a very large voting bloc and the elections are still a year away...

Way to come out of the gates sprinting boys...

Before everyone jumps on the Edwards "worked" for his money bandwagon, better look a little deeper.

Yes, he did work for it, & I'm sure VERY hard. With that said, take a look where he made his mark (& his money). As a trial lawyer going after Corporations. Now, that isn't all bad, but if you look at the case where he made the bulk of his $$'s & where he cemented his reputation, it's a tad ironic.

John Edwards made himself by taking the breast implant companies to court & taking them for all that had. His victories in the court bankrupted 2 companies & cost over 1000's families their jobs. The ironic part is, the vary same implants Edwards won cases on, have now been re-instated AS IS by the FDA as non-harmful. That's right ladies & Gents, John Edwards bilked 1000's of americans of their way of life, he personally sunk 2 viable & profitable companies for PURE greed. He RAPPED our civil court system. He IS the perfect example of all those lawyer jokes.

I find it highly ironic that someone who could be the #1 reason 1000's of families (most middle class) lost the means of making a living is now the "Champion" of the little guy.

Like, love, or hate Bush, at least you know what his intentions are, he doesn't hide them. He is what he is (to his political fault). Edwards has 3 corner to his mouth ... & he uses all of them. Sorry, no thanks, he's a swine. Biden I like, I respect & admire Obama's honesty (tho I have issues with his policy), but I'd never support John Edwards, he just doesn't have an honest bone in his slimmy body.

I'd have like to seen the responses this would have generated had the articles written by Ms. Marcotte and Ms. McEwen been critical of gays (or almost anything else for that matter) instead of Catholics. Would I be correct in assuming a lot of you would be calling for their heads?

yeah, all those dimwitted catholics who were just about to vote for edwards. the folks who will vote based on this story (which will be forgotten long before the election) were never going to vote for edwards anyway.

"Catholics comprise more than one quarter of the U.S. public, and neither John Edwards nor any other candidate can afford to take this constituency for granted," said executive director Alexia Kelley, who served briefly as a religious adviser to 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

You're right Monte... its a nonissue... Nothing to be concerned about... jackass.

I don't have a problem with people suing when they are actually hurt, I have a problem with lawyers who take more than they deserve in these contingency cases.

A large number of Catholics are Democrats. Now many of those that are Democrats probably disagree with the Church's leaders on the issues on which these bloggers were criticizing the Church. But the vitriol and scope of the language these particular bloggers employed was insulting not just to the leaders of the Catholic Church, but to every Catholic, whether they agree with official Church positions or not. I don't know how many Catholic votes will actually change because of this, but it can't help Edwards.

Keeoing a couple of liberal bloggers around isn't ultimately going to help him with the left wing blogosphere anyway. No matter what he is going to have to stay mainstream in his opinions, and that will eventually earn him the hatred of the nutroots anyway.

Stick to your guns, Edwards and show the American people your true ethics!

Obviously, their prior language and conduct on their blogs didn't offend him too much.

"You're right Monte... its a nonissue... Nothing to be concerned about... jackass.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2007-02-09 02:33 PM | Reply"

As much as you hope, and wish, and pray to your beloved bearded man in the sky that this story will still be in the news in a year, it ain't going to happen. Jackass.

Just as you will use any opportunity to bash a rich conservative.


Axiom,

Please do not make assumptions on who I will or will not bash for being wealthy. My comment was in relation to a post bashing Edwards for making use of his wealth that had no bearing on the topic of Edwards choosing to retain two bloggers who made controversial comments on their personal blogs before he hired them.

I don't bash anyone for being wealthy. However, if they're elitist, hypocritical, malicious, deceptive and into opression of the poor, they fully earn my scorn. I don't care which party they belong to.

I'd have like to seen the responses this would have generated had the articles written by Ms. Marcotte and Ms. McEwen been critical of gays (or almost anything else for that matter) instead of Catholics. Would I be correct in assuming a lot of you would be calling for their heads?

Posted by bluefacetwp


excellent point

Re: Liberal Bloggers Keep Jobs with Edwards

Pedophile Priests to Keep Jobs with Catholic Church

Posted by WilliamJ at 2007-02-09 12:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Exactly! Great post!

I think he should have fired them.

Posted by Pirate at 2007-02-09 01:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Fire them? Tell me then, what do you think of George having Cheney as a VP. A man who was the CEO of Halliburton when it was illegally doing business with Iran?

Fire him too?

I'd have like to seen the responses this would have generated had the articles written by Ms. Marcotte and Ms. McEwen been critical of gays (or almost anything else for that matter) instead of Catholics. Would I be correct in assuming a lot of you would be calling for their heads?

Posted by bluefacetwp


excellent point

Posted by cheka at 2007-02-09 08:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, when 'Vatican Incorporated' decided to let priests fuck kids and sweep it under the rug, they lost all credibilty.

I was raised a catholic and I think the church is the most fucked up entity one can belong to. Well, religion in general.

Last year, Marcotte blasted the Catholic Church's position on birth control: "Q: What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit? A: You'd have to justify your misogyny with another ancient mythology."

ON THE DUKE RAPE CASE:

"I had to listen to how the poor, dear lacrosse players at Duke are being persecuted just because they held someone down and f***** her against her will--not rape, of course, because the charges have been thrown out. Can't a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it? So unfair."

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I think Edwards just lost the white vote in Durham.

And everywhere else.

ON CHRISTIAN SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL:

"...on top of the usual motivations behind Christian Zionism--hatred for Muslims, a desire to bring the end of the world, political opportunism and a chance for ministers to make their congregations feel like they are a part of something dramatic and important so their pocketbooks fall opeN..."

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And a lot of the Evangelicals.

ON NASCAR:

"There's no real reason that NASCAR has to have a political edge to it, much less be some weird symbol of Southern male white supremacy and yet through careful Republican marketing, it has become just that."

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. . . and 20 millions NASCAR fans.

"I've talked to Amanda and Melissa; they have both assured me that it was never their intention to malign anyone's faith, and I take them at their word," Edwards said.

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Oh. Okay, then, John. Whatever you say.

That's OK he'll just sue anyone who doesn't vote for him this time. Or any news agency, radio station, blogger, who doesn't back him.

Edwards 2 Americas plan. Take money from the middle class to make the US gov the employer of last resort for chronically unemployable. Let's give jobs of entitlements to welfare recipients, and make you and me pay for the porkroll. What a fuckin joke coming from a multi millionaire scum bag trial lawyer.

Ooooo, and lets give full healthcare to all illegal immigrants while we are at it.